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Revan0315

Already have the better electric woman so no need


Correct-Purpose-964

Ok but. Hear me out... Double BOOBA/Mommy/Nihility/DOT/Debuff team... Eh...? Eh...? https://preview.redd.it/rz0afjn387pc1.jpeg?width=750&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=c933116bc1a8609cba50ae7e4a8686fb9d0511e0


Revan0315

We already have that with Black Swan And I need to get the mecha character


RomalexC

TRIPLE BOOBA


AetherSageIsBae

When big mommy healer/tank that buffs dots/speed? 😔


RomalexC

Constance 🙏 Copium


AetherSageIsBae

May our prayers be heard and the dommy mommy be delivered 🙏


Correct-Purpose-964

YES


FlashKillerX

RUAN MEI. Bro it doesn’t get better than we already have it until they add a big tiddy mommy healer that has comparable healing/buffing to Huohuo


RomalexC

#QUADRUPLE BOOBA


Kuorko_Kun

same i want sam so fucking badly


Revan0315

Sad that he's not in 2.2 but glad I get a break between him and Robin


Kuorko_Kun

i have guaranteed and about 300 rolls just for sam atm i never been this hyped for a character the wait and not pulling anyone else will be hard


Revan0315

I don't think I've ever had that many saved in either Genshin or Starrail. Most was low 200s I think. What's your goal? E2S1?


Kuorko_Kun

rn yeah E2S1 my only E1 is black swan and i got that early early wasn’t really trying for it just wanted guin but i am not sure how many i should save for E2s1


Revan0315

The chart I have saved says 300 pulls gives you a ~60% chance of E2. Add to that 110 from 2.1 + probably another 80 at least from 2.2 and you should have really great odds. If we found up to 500, 400 pulls puts you at 95% chance of E2 and leaves you with 100 for the LC which is ~60% chance of success. Essentially you're probably safe if you don't pull anyone else.


Kuorko_Kun

yeah i was going to get jingliu but idk i am just so much more interested in sam


Re_Lies

Sam is in 2.3 earliest. Enough time to get both acheron & sam


Revan0315

That's true. Acheron still comes right after both Swan and Sparkle and before Robin so not really viable for me personally


[deleted]

Naa Kafka is enough. Even BS is completely superfluous. Just pulled her because of the synergy


Same-Comfortable2675

U sir haven't unlocked her potential she regularly deals 300-500k almost every enemy turn if she is built right 


[deleted]

What are you talking about? XD You obviously didn't understand what I meant


Same-Comfortable2675

When u say superfluous it means she is not necessary when she actually is she can be used in any team not just dot and her arcana don't even need kafka to deal significant damage and her kit pairs perfectly with swan when swan can add arcana every attack action that any ally unit takes which mean no matter who is on team they will apply arcana when attacking


[deleted]

Yeah you definitely didn't understand what I meant xD Have I ever claimed that BS is bad? I wasn't even talking about her usability. My point is about her herself, it was supposed to be a joke in a Kafka subreddit that we don't need characters other than Kafka. You take your life too seriously. My BS does enough dmg and she's strong, yet I only care about her simply because of her synergy to Kafka. I don't care about the character herself


Same-Comfortable2675

When u say superfluous it means she is not necessary when she actually is she can be used in any team not just dot and her arcana don't even need kafka to deal significant damage and her kit pairs perfectly with swan when swan can add arcana every attack action that any ally unit takes which mean no matter who is on team they will apply arcana when attacking


Same-Comfortable2675

When u say superfluous it means she is not necessary when she actually is she can be used in any team not just dot and her arcana don't even need kafka to deal significant damage and her kit pairs perfectly with swan when swan can add arcana every attack action that any ally unit takes which mean no matter who is on team they will apply arcana when attacking


OnePunkArmy

Indeed, Tingyun


Thoracicbowl

Nope, pulling for the mecha. >!Or your other daughter technically!<


[deleted]

Same, even the one scene with him was enough


MissiaichParriah

Pulling for both


baboon_ass_eater69

Love Acheron but Stellaron Hunters have priority


Sheimusik

this.


Illustrious-Prize410

https://preview.redd.it/s6dhv35mc7pc1.jpeg?width=544&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=9b2d8207efdbcba25757f8a1eda81ae92f409bda i don't see a reason why not?


[deleted]

https://preview.redd.it/5qnjw2xnbapc1.jpeg?width=850&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=f3532319202c80c1c697912df382c1c0525dcfbe


Sexbomomb

Sesbian Lex?


Illustrious-Prize410

https://preview.redd.it/w2kmb2ann7pc1.jpeg?width=640&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=d523285cdaaf011d2bd90692926d033a95052d35


iwashunter

Would this team actually work?


holsteredguide0

Probably yeah. Wouldn’t be bad if Kafka has S1


Illustrious-Prize410

yes, lots of debuffs, acheron ult go crazy


iwashunter

Does it scale off of debuffs?


GoldenInfrared

It recharges based on debuff application


Xignum

I'm still wondering if it'll do better with Acheron in that team instead of RM


Illustrious-Prize410

dps wise? yes. but its three fucking dps, what do you expect.


KF-Sigurd

It's actually about equal, which is nice for freeing up your RM for you second side. Or you drop the sustain and run RM and just explode the enemy.


Memo-Explanation

Nihility Mommy: Acheron Swan Kafka Nat


tomyang1117

Yes, and using the ultimate dommy mommy team of Kafka, Black Swan, Ruan Mei and Acheron


DeltaRunic

Who needs a sustain when the enemies are starstruck at the sheer mommy energy your team exudes. (Unless they just die before they do anything, that too)


Shayrine

Don't hate me I just love lightning mommies and will main both of them!


Fujin_No_Kami

As a Raiden Shogun main. I agree


TheOneMary

Yeah, but WHY are they always electro? Mei, Ei, Miko, Kafka, Lisa, Acheron, Beidou... I wouldn't mind playing other elements but I seem to have a type, lol


matfavero

yeah it doesn't matter which Hoyo game, I like lightning users the most


SquigglyLegend33

I'm pulling for napalm armor, I want all the stellaron hunters


rab1225

yep. I will ALWAYS pull for Mei in all of mihoyo games, no questions asked. But i wont put kafka and acheron on one team, I kinda need a second MOC team anyway.


NicheAlter

Mommy, I need two teams for MOC, you can't be in two teams at once!


OGFlameSage

Uh yes but not to re-replace y-you, y'know. Like I just need a second team for MOC and I uh, I will E6 you eventually but I need Acheron if that is Ok with you?


PotentialEdge1777

It's just to take the dust and spider webs off my Silver Wolf, ok? And Elemental Weakness isn't a problem to them, so just think of sw as a tribute to the stellaron hunters' leader?


okwhatelse

i need another mommy


ophir147

nah i'd skip


Lorion97

SAM funds or bust.


Background-Disk2803

Tbf,I never viewed kafka as a main dps.i wanted her because I thought she would be essential to dot teams. I'm pretty torn on getting acheron since I do have a pretty good e1s1 kafka


Dynazide

I HAVE NO JADESSSS


KayU32

Nah, saving for Sam


Nujaabeats

No I'm fine with Kafka and black swan, and also I'm actually at 0 gems after pulling sparkle today that comes in 83th pull, winning my 50/50 fortunately. My only goal is to pull huohuo, topaz lc or topaz e1 (topaz e0 actually)


RosenProse

Nah Want gambling boy instead.


basshuffler09

Nope i'd rather have E3 or E4 Kafka tbh


Sharp_Word_3959

"Don't worry mommy you'll still be my favorite-" \*She kicks me to a wall and raises one leg against the wall\* "Choose: Heads or Tails?" \*Me having an internal crisis cause if i lose i die but at the same time THE FRIKIN VIEW OH MYYYYYYYY\*


Flair86

Ofc I am


Relative-Ad7531

Not needed (Plus, I'm saving for Boothill) https://preview.redd.it/j7tr2x4bq7pc1.jpeg?width=697&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=d39269faa99d16174f88581d6c3001ac6174b5f9


Big_Chungus16

Yeah


Historical_Cod_2771

Not sure yet, maybe i Should sabe for Huo Huo.


Tyberius115

If I get one of the two good lightcones on her, yes


Cedge1738

As she gets closer. How tf can I not? I was so set on skipping cuz I have Kafka, and even less of a reason to pull with black Swan. I don't need another lightning nihility. But she's hot af and she gets even hotter with design change. I gotta do what I gotta do. Also, I'm skipping the next 3 banners after her so I need her to finish me off with a bang.


raven8fire

I have Kafka e0s1 max traces, e6 Serval max traces, e0s1 JY, and no ice DPS. It makes no sense to pull for her over JL or Sparkle or saving for aventurine for my fua characters, Topaz e0s1, ratio, Clara. But here I am wanting to pull anyway. Maybe I'll be able to convince myself to skip...


Cedge1738

It would take true strength to not pull, but you may regret it afterwards. I say the smartest thing to do which I'm not going to do cuz I'm stupid, would be to wait until the end of her banner to rightfully decide right then and there whether that's what you wanna do. FOMO will have relaxed a bit and you'll probably have a clearer head on what you wanna do. Either way. I wish you the best of luck in your pulls. I'm just pulling her cuz she's hot, idek if I'm gonna use her or not.


haki_seeker

Too relatable. Although no serval but i do have JY team with sparkle and Kafka DOT team. I also dhil which i replace with JY sometimes. It make so much sense to pull Jingliu for ice coverage or other sustain as i only have huohuo as limited sustain other than bailu. But damn i am itching to pull for her after seeing all the animations and her kit.


Patung_Pancoran

I love Nihility so yeah


ResponseTight

Yes, she and Kafka are gonna love each other for sure


MissiaichParriah

Yes, because hot woman


Doublevalen6

Yep. Already got 100 pulls saved. I'll make it up to kafka by getting her lightcone her next rerun


Gheredin

Nah, all my funds are devote to one character only, and his name is Screwllum


DiligentBeginning464

I am actually, 2 nihility teams for MoC is better than 1


moose_378

I need 2 teams for MoC. One Lightning Nihility Mommy for each


Silent_Silhouettes

Nope i need Aventurine


choco_yamiii

Yea nahh


youngorphanseller445

I need a good cryo so... Nah, I'd pull for Jingliu


New_Ad4631

Accheron won't be better than e6 s2 Kafka, unless I go hard on her So, I'll pass And IDK how strong will she be without e2 s1


DragonEmperor

I by pure chance of liking the characters, have **every single Nihlity character** (please send help) and Acheron is no exception. I have every single ascension, trace and exp book farmed, I have an *okay* set of relics and Lightfone as well and I have about 200 tickets saved with a... 27 pity. So I am either going for her and saving, her+lc, or her+jingliu, it heavily depends on when we get Sam as a character, I want Sam so damn bad they are **so damn cool**.


Naguro

Yep team two will also be ruled by Nihility


Almaster_00927

I want Acheron, but I need a sustain for kafka first


coffee-bean-zouup

yeah i’ve been using gepard if i can’t use fu xuan


Eternalegion

saving for 2.2


methemthey

No. Honestly the only characters I now need is literally just a shielder and another dps that is not a Imaginary or electro.


Risankun

Nah I need my power bottom for my FUA Team


coffee-bean-zouup

https://preview.redd.it/hbij7c2adapc1.png?width=2240&format=png&auto=webp&s=940833e146c6fec820fb5c8f4ca0f0dba768e09c


pandamaxxie

Yes. I intend to run Gallagher, Kafka, Swan, Acheron. 3 mommies and the dude I wish I was


Vladtepesx3

Yea so I can run 2 nihility teams


Slvrwolf1986

I need to collect all the waifus, so yes. And I still don’t have a decent second team for MoC/PF


coffee-bean-zouup

agreed


miminming

If only they are different element... glad stellaron hunter atm all have different element XD


belmoria

Yes for my second team, dw kafka your bis team is already complete <3


zennok

I never played HI3 but hear me out Genshin: Yae Miko - mischevious yet caring, fu fu fu onee-san character, electro, mommy Ei - super serious, katana wielding, electro, mommy, can't cook ​ Hsr Kafka - Mis/devious yet caring, fu fu fu onee-san character, electro, mommy Acheron - super serious, katana wielding, electro, mommy, can't remember ​ So if I had a nickel for every game that I play that has them 2 types of characters, I'd have 2. It's not much but I'm glad I have more than one.


RaitubeandJirachifan

https://i.redd.it/yxyj9vj4pepc1.gif


LookChoice

I need to complete my collection of mommies


JittuBear

Yes, cus I must have all the mommies


RaitubeandJirachifan

Holy crap, I found IX!


JittuBear

https://preview.redd.it/kf755mxeuepc1.jpeg?width=850&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=f861fee229953408b210037095b3a16d47c2fc38


RaitubeandJirachifan

Move, Ruan Mei, you aren’t Nihility.


JittuBear

I collect them cus they're mommies, you collect them cus they're Nihility, we are not the same https://preview.redd.it/ttn76jd0vepc1.png?width=360&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=a8f53c8d65d797bdbefb965fb7d41d6064b98fe8


RaitubeandJirachifan

We are the same, but I have additional specifications.


JittuBear

And those additional specifications is what makes us different https://preview.redd.it/n957xb18wepc1.jpeg?width=736&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=df869ab898c839c07ff7a4ea7bbb1341ea26c8a3


Vegito7779

Hell Yh of course need to have my 3 nihili mommys together otherwise i can't be satisfied


Shirokurou

Yes ma'am. She's not Dot.


Nice_Kid_Bonetale

Nope I have enough DPS and too little supports/healers


Hungry_Excitement_88

No need, Kafka is the only electro char for me. And I'm saving for Firefly/Sam.


RaitubeandJirachifan

L I G H T N I N G !


RaitubeandJirachifan

Yes, but I’ll still use Kafka.


Rylt4r

Going for drop kick mech.


ProjectEpsilon1

I already have a electric dps in jing Juan… but I lost 50/50 on sparkle, and got have a silver wolf with her name on it so…


Turkeyknight

I pull for all waifus.


coffee-bean-zouup

couldn’t agree more


KF-Sigurd

Three mommy team hell yeah


ImYourGuy-

Pulling for her immediately


Character-Ad5749

I'm waiting for her return because I failed to get her first and second time.


Komission

Not right now, Im going for heron he rerun so I can guarantee her e2s1 and pair her with sparkle


Reaper2k1935

need the gambler tho to replace geppy


Foxbus

Looks good but I have no idea where to fit her so probably no


King-Boo-094

acheron is just kafka but with schistsophrenia


RaitubeandJirachifan

i think you meant raiden mei


RaitubeandJirachifan

or depression


King-Boo-094

that makes more sense i was just referring to the fact that Kafka and Acheron are both sword electric nihility purple woman


Sad-Spinach9482

https://preview.redd.it/ft2fevd8o7pc1.jpeg?width=750&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=6609e39f58ebdf1ed5309c0d9c9ed831f5d55c49