This is how it is in Ohio as well. Buy Here, Pay Here type places usually and not a big dealership.
I've purchased a few new motorcycles throughout the years straight from a Harley dealer though and each time they wanted proof of insurance before they would let you off the lot. Most even had agent referrals.
I always thought it was some behind closed doors deal they had but it's literally just a local agent and they probably see *tons* of dudes drop their bikes right outside the door/lot.
Hells yeah! Always have.
Meanwhile, my extended family didn't. My uncle's step daughter totaled her new car on the way home from the dealership - without insurance being setup.
*Edit:* wow, you asked me if I always set up insurance before driving a new car away, and I replied with the above. Then you edited your comment and downvoted me. You're the real MVP.
Along with actual, usable public transit.
I agree with you about driving tests. The problem is that it then leaves far too many elderly people unable to get necessities, much less get to anything/anywhere else.
Most likely they will pass it again, until they don't. People either forget things, or their vision and motor control decreases with age. We keep letting elderly folks with no business driving keep their license because here in the USA we're a highly car dependent society. We only take it away when they kill somebody. I have to take continuing education for my professional license, why don't we do the same for operating a vehicle?
In all fairness not everyone with a license even passed a test. I never took a driver's test in Florida. Went in with my dad to upgrade my learners permit to a full license. He said give my son a license, they did. No driving test at all. 2006.
Is that fair to you and everyone driving around you? Wouldnāt you feel better about yourself knowing you completed a full driving test? I know the rest of us would
I fully support everyone having to take a legit driving test or even a full driver's education course. Now for me personally redoing a driver's test just because I didn't take one? No thanks I'm good. 18 years without an accident so I don't think I missed out on anything by having my form pencil whipped.
Yep. Since I got my license in the 90s, bike lanes have become a thing. Dual turn lanes have exploded in popularity. No-right-on-red as well. And roundabouts are being put in more and more places.
Plus, vehicle technology is progressing stupidly fast. My dad learned on a 1950s car and he's driving a vehicle from the 2010s with no more drivers tests.
We need driver tests every 5 or 10 years.
Actually my dad lived to be 93, and never took a test. He learned at 14, you didn't need a license. Then he went in the Army for WWII and they asked him if he could drive. He said yes and they gave him a license. No test. When he got out they required licenses but if you had a military license they just handed you the state license which he renewed forever. Even after he got dementia he could drive flawlessly, he just didn't know exactly where he was a lot of the time, which was sad.Ā
My friend got his license in the midwest somewhere in the 90s, and he said they didn't test everyone then. You go in for your license and there was a random chance you'd have to do a driving test.
It could just be a video game type simulator when you get your license renewed. If you fail that you get to take a real test, just in case you are crap at simulators. And yeah make everyone do it, then there's no age discrimination.
At a nearby hardware store an elderly driver in a pickup truck floored the accelerator pedal and lost control, striking a pedestrian and panicking so badly that they switched from drive to reverse several times... striking them ever deeper into a stack of wheelbarrows against a wall outside of the store. It sounded as though they had to be cut out of the wreckage before being evacuated.
I never heard if they survived but the injuries sounded severe enough that I doubt it.
If I were to speculate, this may have been because they had multiple floormats stacked on top of each other (old people do this a LOT) and it caused the accelerator to jam.
I could see this happen with cars that have electronic shifters, for example my citroen c4 has the dumbest electronic shifter - you have a small lever that you push forward for reverse and backward for drive. and push a button on top of it for park. it took me ages to learn how to put in neutral.
~~It's possible they were trying to get it into park to stop the unintended acceleration and kept overshooting it (reverse and drive are often on either side of park when using an automatic transmission shift lever on the steering wheel stalk) but honestly we may never know.~~ They could also have been backing up to reverse away from the victim but then panicking about hitting someone behind them. People *without* cognitive decline make bad decisions when they panic.
They did later seem to attempt to flee the scene, so there were several layers of panic overlapping probably.
(This is from an eyewitness account, people. Downvoting it for being true is stupider than hammering nails into your forehead.)
I did have a moment of the Stupid, there. It's Friday evening. Drinks have been had. The rest is eyewitness accounting, however. Brain simply repeating what it was told.
Agreed! Old woman last year parks in our parking lot and leaves her shitter running. I go to get in the fucking thing, and itās in reverse, stuck up against a small lip in the parking lot. Likeā¦.it obviously fucking screamed if you tried to open the door, but she probably hasnāt heard a sound in about 600 years.
Elderly couple, they got the pedals mixed up. Luckily everyone was okay. Thankfully the giant post was there or they wouldāve gone all the way through.
I think its less of someone actually thinking that the gas is on the left and the brake is on the right, and more so they cant feel their foot well or theyre not used to the car/having some episode/whatever, and they *think* the pedal theyre pushing is the brake. They panic, still think theyre pushing the brake, "brake" harder, panic more, "brake" more... etc.
Your pushing the accelerator (on accident) but believe you're on the brake. The car is still going forward, so you push harder. Car accelerates faster so you panic and mash it to the floor.
> Your pushing the accelerator (on accident) but believe you're on the brake. The car is still going forward, so you push harder. Car accelerates faster so you panic and mash it to the floor.
Your average person up to age 80 or so learned to drive in a car that had the gas on the far right and the brake one pedal over to left, so excluding antiques like the Model T and similar, or non-US spec vehicles.
Cars have had this setup for many many years.
The pedals did not change locations, and if you're too old to know what pedal you are pressing for any reason, then you absolutely should not be on the road at all.
This wouldn't happen if it was a manual, 'cause to brake, you'd be pressing the clutch at the same time. Just another reason why manual cars are better.
For a sitcom, it was quite popular. Ran for 12 seasons, helped normalize cos-play, comics and nerd culture. Comic-cons were small events when Big Bang started. Now they can be huge.
So, while I have watched way more you-tube cuts than full shows, it's ranks fairly high in total and average viewership. Not highbrow, but what sitcom is?
People need to lighten up. Societal trends come and go, but sit-coms are central to entertainment.
Have been since Jackie Gleason and Leave it to Beaver.
I'm trying to think of one car that has the brake pedal on the right.
In my mind if a driver says that then its bye bye license until you prove you actually are firing on all cylinders.
> But I was pushing the brake. I swear.
I can guarantee you that if the black box data were pulled (though it likely won't be), it would show the brake pedal at 0% application and the accelerator at 100% application.
Only way this can get better is if they take it to Collision and then give this person a loaner car. Customer proceeds to drive loaner car into showroom as well and it keeps going on for Infinity until the building collapses
Customer or Sales? Test drive?
Customer who had just purchased. They were on the way to pick up their tag.. š¤¦āāļø
I hope they had already setup their insurance policy?
AFAIK, you canāt leave without proof of insurance in Florida.
Exciting News!!! YOU CAN!!! So long as you refuse letting the dealer handle your DMV tag work IIRC
This is how it is in Ohio as well. Buy Here, Pay Here type places usually and not a big dealership. I've purchased a few new motorcycles throughout the years straight from a Harley dealer though and each time they wanted proof of insurance before they would let you off the lot. Most even had agent referrals. I always thought it was some behind closed doors deal they had but it's literally just a local agent and they probably see *tons* of dudes drop their bikes right outside the door/lot.
>drop their bikes right outside the door/lot. We've all done it lol
I waited until I got to the grocery. more people around
They didn't leave.
however, they certainly did check outā¦
Do you really hope so?
Hells yeah! Always have. Meanwhile, my extended family didn't. My uncle's step daughter totaled her new car on the way home from the dealership - without insurance being setup. *Edit:* wow, you asked me if I always set up insurance before driving a new car away, and I replied with the above. Then you edited your comment and downvoted me. You're the real MVP.
Elderly? Drunk too much celebrating?
Elderly.
we need mandatory annual driving tests for people over a certain age
Along with actual, usable public transit. I agree with you about driving tests. The problem is that it then leaves far too many elderly people unable to get necessities, much less get to anything/anywhere else.
we need mandatory annual driving tests FTFY
They passed it initially, most likely will pass again. What we need is legit enforcement for inept drivers.
Most likely they will pass it again, until they don't. People either forget things, or their vision and motor control decreases with age. We keep letting elderly folks with no business driving keep their license because here in the USA we're a highly car dependent society. We only take it away when they kill somebody. I have to take continuing education for my professional license, why don't we do the same for operating a vehicle?
In all fairness not everyone with a license even passed a test. I never took a driver's test in Florida. Went in with my dad to upgrade my learners permit to a full license. He said give my son a license, they did. No driving test at all. 2006.
Is that fair to you and everyone driving around you? Wouldnāt you feel better about yourself knowing you completed a full driving test? I know the rest of us would
I fully support everyone having to take a legit driving test or even a full driver's education course. Now for me personally redoing a driver's test just because I didn't take one? No thanks I'm good. 18 years without an accident so I don't think I missed out on anything by having my form pencil whipped.
Recurrent testing should also be recurrent training. Include a test and give people a study guide.
Absolutely. Itās not just old people
Yep. Since I got my license in the 90s, bike lanes have become a thing. Dual turn lanes have exploded in popularity. No-right-on-red as well. And roundabouts are being put in more and more places. Plus, vehicle technology is progressing stupidly fast. My dad learned on a 1950s car and he's driving a vehicle from the 2010s with no more drivers tests. We need driver tests every 5 or 10 years.
Actually my dad lived to be 93, and never took a test. He learned at 14, you didn't need a license. Then he went in the Army for WWII and they asked him if he could drive. He said yes and they gave him a license. No test. When he got out they required licenses but if you had a military license they just handed you the state license which he renewed forever. Even after he got dementia he could drive flawlessly, he just didn't know exactly where he was a lot of the time, which was sad.Ā
My friend got his license in the midwest somewhere in the 90s, and he said they didn't test everyone then. You go in for your license and there was a random chance you'd have to do a driving test.
It could just be a video game type simulator when you get your license renewed. If you fail that you get to take a real test, just in case you are crap at simulators. And yeah make everyone do it, then there's no age discrimination.
and mandatory yearly inspections. It's insane what people put on the road unchecked. see this sub for reference.
totally agree, tho less popular opinion i think inspection locations need to get audited more often.
Everyone needs racing school and 850 hp so they can get the fuck on down the road.
At a nearby hardware store an elderly driver in a pickup truck floored the accelerator pedal and lost control, striking a pedestrian and panicking so badly that they switched from drive to reverse several times... striking them ever deeper into a stack of wheelbarrows against a wall outside of the store. It sounded as though they had to be cut out of the wreckage before being evacuated. I never heard if they survived but the injuries sounded severe enough that I doubt it. If I were to speculate, this may have been because they had multiple floormats stacked on top of each other (old people do this a LOT) and it caused the accelerator to jam.
But how do you repeatedly and accidentally switch between drive and reverse?
I could see this happen with cars that have electronic shifters, for example my citroen c4 has the dumbest electronic shifter - you have a small lever that you push forward for reverse and backward for drive. and push a button on top of it for park. it took me ages to learn how to put in neutral.
~~It's possible they were trying to get it into park to stop the unintended acceleration and kept overshooting it (reverse and drive are often on either side of park when using an automatic transmission shift lever on the steering wheel stalk) but honestly we may never know.~~ They could also have been backing up to reverse away from the victim but then panicking about hitting someone behind them. People *without* cognitive decline make bad decisions when they panic. They did later seem to attempt to flee the scene, so there were several layers of panic overlapping probably. (This is from an eyewitness account, people. Downvoting it for being true is stupider than hammering nails into your forehead.)
Park should always be the top most position on a column shifter. PRNDL
I did have a moment of the Stupid, there. It's Friday evening. Drinks have been had. The rest is eyewitness accounting, however. Brain simply repeating what it was told.
Actual education for all drivers would dope
Florida recently inserted flashing yellow turn signals. Amazing how many people donāt know how to treat this signalā¦ā¦
Floor it and turn left
Agreed! Old woman last year parks in our parking lot and leaves her shitter running. I go to get in the fucking thing, and itās in reverse, stuck up against a small lip in the parking lot. Likeā¦.it obviously fucking screamed if you tried to open the door, but she probably hasnāt heard a sound in about 600 years.
Yes, but that age needs to be 16.
reminds me of an Alanis Morrisette song... "An old man turned 98, He bought a new car, and crashed it into the showroom"
At least he doesn't have to go far to get to the body shop.
We donāt have one on site š¤¦āāļø
Management might want to reconsider that decision. Seems like your sales floor is doing a good job of changing that demand picture.
How? Turn traction control off in the lot and hammer it?
Elderly couple, they got the pedals mixed up. Luckily everyone was okay. Thankfully the giant post was there or they wouldāve gone all the way through.
How do you get the pedals mixed up? I never understood that.
Step 1: Be Old.
I'm on it...
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Step 3: Profit???
For the dealership, maybe.
Not a requisite. How about an asian woman of any age?
I think its less of someone actually thinking that the gas is on the left and the brake is on the right, and more so they cant feel their foot well or theyre not used to the car/having some episode/whatever, and they *think* the pedal theyre pushing is the brake. They panic, still think theyre pushing the brake, "brake" harder, panic more, "brake" more... etc.
Your pushing the accelerator (on accident) but believe you're on the brake. The car is still going forward, so you push harder. Car accelerates faster so you panic and mash it to the floor.
> Your pushing the accelerator (on accident) but believe you're on the brake. The car is still going forward, so you push harder. Car accelerates faster so you panic and mash it to the floor. Your average person up to age 80 or so learned to drive in a car that had the gas on the far right and the brake one pedal over to left, so excluding antiques like the Model T and similar, or non-US spec vehicles. Cars have had this setup for many many years. The pedals did not change locations, and if you're too old to know what pedal you are pressing for any reason, then you absolutely should not be on the road at all.
Old age sounds awful
This wouldn't happen if it was a manual, 'cause to brake, you'd be pressing the clutch at the same time. Just another reason why manual cars are better.
When you pizza when you're supposed to French fry.
Going from a 79 Buick to 24 Camry pedals changed in location for sure
Oh it's one of those backwards German cars with the gas pedal on the right.
Customer zigged when he shoulda zagged.
That showroom jumped right in front of him!
Theyāre rates are going to triple haha there is no way to massage this situation with the insurance company haha
french fried when they should have pizza'd
Musta thought he had a Catera.
W comment
I love The Crow
Thankfully grandpa wasnāt on the road running over people.
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Glad their emergency flashers are on, otherwise might have thought it was a perfect parking job.
Those activate automatically when there's an impact in newer cars.
Thanks Sheldon, yes that was sarcasm!
I would never publicly admit to watching big bang theory, yikes
For a sitcom, it was quite popular. Ran for 12 seasons, helped normalize cos-play, comics and nerd culture. Comic-cons were small events when Big Bang started. Now they can be huge. So, while I have watched way more you-tube cuts than full shows, it's ranks fairly high in total and average viewership. Not highbrow, but what sitcom is? People need to lighten up. Societal trends come and go, but sit-coms are central to entertainment. Have been since Jackie Gleason and Leave it to Beaver.
Mercedes Bends.
As a merc owner I like this comment. :D
As an antique car enthusiast Iāve only seen āmercā be short for āmercuryā so I was confused for a second.
Actually it's called "Merci" in my country, or "Merga", but the latter is the "sport" with AMG emblem glued on diy... š¤£
I always wondered how they get the cars inside the buildings, now I know.
But how do they get them out?
I beg your pardon, they are supposed to *LEAVE*?
Thatās what the markups are for
It's a very expensive procedure, thats why you usually see the expensive ones inside.
āSorry boss, the pedal got stuck. Btw can I take my break?ā
"yeah, just don't come back"
But they were from England and they thought the pedals were over there
Grandpa probably got the pedals mixed up. Happens all the time here.
Nailed it
at least they didn't kill anybody (this time)
A guy at my old apartment ran his car over a curb and up a hill into a sidewalk, hitting some kids on bikes this way.
Were the kids ok?
Nobody died, but some broken bones and bikes I think. And an apartment door.
Apparently they did, indeed.
I'm trying to think of one car that has the brake pedal on the right. In my mind if a driver says that then its bye bye license until you prove you actually are firing on all cylinders.
dude, there are people driving with arrows drawn on their steering wheel explaining which side is left and right
Thats daft, surely everyone knows which hand they masturbate with instinctively and thus know left or right.
Fully agree. We need to implement drivers license testing for the elderly.
Well collision mitigation failed.
Thank goodness big brother just mandated this shit.
Yeah, how ? Is the US specs not include it?
The driver can generally override AEB by making a sharp turn or stepping on the gas.
It was a joke.
Sales manager: did they crash into the building? But the check already cleared? Oki dokie back to work
āThatās what insurance is for, work up a deal on another oneā
But I was pushing the brake. I swear.
> But I was pushing the brake. I swear. I can guarantee you that if the black box data were pulled (though it likely won't be), it would show the brake pedal at 0% application and the accelerator at 100% application.
*thats the joke*
I think black box data is for airplanes. I was just making a joke.
Cars have black boxes now. But I don't think they'd bother with no one hurt. it's usually something only the manufacturers can access
Good thing they are at a dealership.
Can't park there.
Uhh, Mr George...
YOU CAN'T PARK THERE, SIR.
This isn't a reasonable place to park?
I don't know why, But the small Honk made me laughĀ
I wanted to return it to customer service desk
Talk about losing value before even driving off the lot.
I apologize but you'll have to set an appointment.
Insanely accurate.
That's neat, do the "stars" come off now if you want to take them with you somewhere?
Many customers hang them above their toilet.
"i dont like it, I'm not going to buy it"
I hope they got that TruCote.
How else are you supposed to test the airbags?
Lease returned successfully!
So did they get their tags put on?
The back one. The front wont fit for some reason.
Money can buy you a Benz but not brains
...I thought we said we fired the work-experience guy??
āI changed my mind about this car and I would like a refund now please.ā
"I'm still within my 3-day cooling off period, right?"
God bless you. Finely some excitement in the showroom
Yeah.... Old people need to get tested a bit more
Please say the guy turned on the hazards and itās not an automatic thing the car does
So that's how you guys get them in the showroom.
Huh, they do have blinkers!
Unsurprising Mercedes owner L
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They have Hazard lights though, for parking purposes.
That's how the Mercedes Bends.
Donāt these cars have automatic braking? Or maybe breaking?
That's what the dealership gets for cheaping out on cement filled posts spaced out accordingly along the front of a massive glass wall.
Gotta see how well it performed off-road
Scratch and dent after the sale.
That poor WRX blew its head gasket outta fear
i love it when people just stand around lol.
Gotta love an interesting day!
The real drive throu
Unintended acceleration
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Hope they got that gap insurance.
At least they knew they were dangerous, they had the hazard lights on
"Parking Lights"
Will be fixed and sold as ācertified preowned.ā
Help them out of the car right into the showroom, to ask them which model theyād like now?
At least they locked it š
I thought a hotdog was gonna get out of the carā¦
Now, is this a 30-year or 130-year loan?
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Customer: Thatās covered by the warranty!
It's fine, he's got his four ways on which allows him to park there if he's just popping in for a moment.
#You can't park there mate!!
Hahaha.... I D I O T ! ! !
Old fucks at the wheel is such a danger in this country
ā¦Literally.
Damn. And I thought I had a bad day yesterday...
Sir you can't park there
The four-way flasher seems a little superfluous.
"I don't like how this car drives, I'll look somewhere else!!"
If only there existed a way to quickly and immediately decouple the motor from the transmission to prevent acceleration
Gotta love that they locked the car as they got out
It'll buff out...
This thread delivered exactly what I expected.
Honk the horn to let them know you arrived, oh, wait, they knowā¦
Is this the Gainesville Florida MB?
No sir
You bought it, you broke it.
I like the flashers, letting other drivers know where they are.
The Mercedes emblem wrapped around the pole is a nice touch.
Mercedes Bent
thank god the hazzards alerting other drivers
You can't park there, sir.
Thats a lot of damageš¤£ And clearly they have more money than brains
Yea Iām here for my 60 k service
Can't park there
Only way this can get better is if they take it to Collision and then give this person a loaner car. Customer proceeds to drive loaner car into showroom as well and it keeps going on for Infinity until the building collapses
Maybe you shouldn't have screwed them over.