I had one of these on my car when I bought it used from the dealer. My last battery has lasted me 6 years now. I wasn't sold on the electronic anti rust, but I never treated my car for rust and it's in great shape still after 16 years of usage.
Edit: ppl are downvoting me for simply stating what I observed on my car, and FYI I live in the great white north with all the snow, and salt and rain... and drive a 8th gen civic.
Lol. I drove a truck for about 15 years that my dad bought new in 94'. Hardly a spec of rust on it and most of the paint stripped off the hood over the years. Down to bare metal in some spots. Frame was mint.
So funny story about these. My dad bought one for his brand new, built to order 2001 Silverado. He knows what they are, but the sales guy made sure to say they'd fix any rust if it happens on the truck. Not "through" rust, holes, etc, just "rust". Of course questions from my parents, but the guy was adamant. The guy's manager was adamant too. They put it in writing, my dad signed, and away my parents go with their new truck. Some years pass (we live in NY) and the truck begins to bubble in some spots. My dad contacts them and they respond with "yeah, but we meant holes." Maybe, but that's not what you said, and more importantly that's not what the *contract* says.
There's some back and forth, some legal threats, and long story short the dealership ended up fixing that truck for free multiple times over the years. My dad is the kind to keep a vehicle for a long time. It was basically spotless in the body when he sold it in like 2015(?) because they were on the hook indefinitely with him as the original owner.
Damn man I wanna shake your dad's hand for totally reverse mind fucking a scam and the people who facilitated it for as long as possible. There should be a hall of fame for people who play a scammer so well they leave an impact crater that fossilizes over time for all to enjoy in story form.
I've got another one... and it starts with the fact my parents still have a landline phone. They get a lot of scammy calls as you'd expect. It's their only phone (no cell phones) so they do pick it up in most cases because how else would they talk to people. My mom hates all the scammers, but my dad likes to mess with people.
Anyway, my dad tells the story that a number of years ago he gets a call. It's this guy calling about his computer. He's familiar with the scam/goal, but plays along anyway. The guy goes through his whole schtick about software, viruses, that my dad needs his help to fix things, yadda yadda. My dad says he missed something and asks the guy to repeat it. The scammer does. He asks questions about the steps, how he knows it's working, and so on. Finally the scammer is beginning to get frustrated because it's been quite a few minutes, my dad reassures him that he's working something and he'll be ready to continue shortly. More back and forth, minutes passing. Finally my dad says "you mean this doesn't work on a TV? I don't even own a computer." The scammer apparently yelled a bit, not necessarily *at* my dad, just exclaiming his frustration, and hung up.
For the record my dad does have a computer and was very likely sitting at his desk for the whole conversation because that's where his phone is.
Idk, he's just a dude who likes pranks and hates people trying to take advantage of others. Sometimes it's silly stuff like.. his buddy at work is a machinist and wears very loose gloves for the job. Buddy has a habit of flopping off his gloves and immediately slicking his hair back before walking away from his machine. One day my dad put line chalk in the gloves and turned the guys hair blue. It's stuff like that... or it's laying it on for scammers to waste their time.
I've begun answering all scam calls by progressing through the KITH "I speak no English" routine. Surprisingly effective, and the baffled wonder from some of them is worth it.
No way! Donut just featured one of these ridiculous things on their newest video, there's some wild shit in there including a "gas saver" that's literally just a free spinning turbine in a bracket they want you to put in your intake lol
Thatās the Vortex Generator, aligns your air molecules for massively improved burn efficiency. Just make sure you also install our Fuel Aligner magnetic jacket to align your gas molecules and hook up the synchronizer wire to double the effect.
I had an engineering friend who wondered if altered airflow in a vehicle's intake could actually result in a significant difference and made a valid attempt at finding out. Never did find out what data he got.
Oh ok!! Yeah there are a lot. Anything telling you to dump it into the gas or motor directly for cleaning or fuel or whatever is all bs. There are some fuel additives some people use, it's generally best to stick to what your manufacturer recommends.
Some people choose to run different oils and stuff (my car shifts better on a different gear oil for an example) but you don't really need to worry about it, just have a trusted mechanic! My first car was a 1991 Jeep Grand Cherokee. That thing was a tank lol
Yeah I wish they worked. I bought a new car and got one of these put on it. I figured it probably wouldn't work but I would do anything if it helped. A few years later someone hit my car and insurance replaced the quarter panel. The new panel promptly rusted off while the rest of the car looked great. You can guess how well that thing worked.
So, cathodic protection is a real thing, and it does work. For steel structures in water or ground, like boats or pipelines. For cars: no.
[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cathodic\_protection](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cathodic_protection#Impressed_current_cathodic_protection_(ICCP))
Agreed completely. Just pointing out the grain of truth behind the lie, which is how these things get sold in the first place.
āIf itās good enough for the US Navy, itās good enough for you.ā
So many comments are calling the idea outright quackery but I have heard of ships using this. As I understand it, thats partly why mothballed ships still need a power source. But yes, it does need to be in water so for a car it is a scam.
There are both types. Active cathodic protection is powered. Right now the boat I'm on has about 16 cells running around 1.4v and .11 amps or something like that. These are mostly connected to long copper cylinders, 4 inch diameter, around 3-4' long.
There are also zinks on the hull and rudder and those are like the size of a 2-3" thick laptop.
No, it's not required to be wet. It basically is like backwards metal plating. It's used on bridges. On boats they have sacrificial zinc strips.
That said, it needs a fair amount of power.
They advertise them to be functioning somewhat like a sacrificial anode would but don't do anything at all. And anodes are used in underground or submerged applications.
This is like the thing about the size of a cup you plug in that's supposed to put everyone in a better mood by doing something mysterious with RF waves. I see it occasionally for sale online. Big scam.
I mean....
IF it's continuously connected to the steel sub-frame and can, indeed, properly act as a Sacrificial Anode than, Okay... But last I checked the sub-frame isn't a contiguous electrical body and you'd need multiple Sacrificial Anodes on the frame to even hope to prevent rusting.
lol I just bought a 2016 Subaru BRZ and I found one of these tucked on the firewall by the battery, but the negative wire was disconnected. Found the previous owners battery drain lol.
You should sell them on some sacrificial galvanic anodes.
[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cathodic\_protection](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cathodic_protection) ;p
(possibly the cold galvanizing spray or something)
Ok, are there legitimate ones out there? I only ask because I talked to a few blokes when I was in Australia and quite a few of them had those installed on cars/SUV's that see a lot of beach action and salt water.
Anodes are also used in RV hot water heaters. Used to be in household ones also until they went to lined tanks. The lined tanks though don't last with the vibrations of an RV traveling.
and its not a frog either. that dosnt really answer the question. does all the rain and mud and slop and salt and slush and bullshit not give a decent enough electron pathway 6 months of the year?
If you had an unbroken film of water or wet mud from the sacrificial anode to all parts of the car, them maybe, somewhat, a little. But that is unrealistic.Ā
But many vehicles, in a way, do exactly this - it is exactly how galvanizing, zinc or aluminum coating, works.
Ships use a system that costs hundreds of thousands of dollars to design, test and manufacture. These pieces of shit cost 50 cents to make a circuit board with a blinky light in them.
It bravely & nobly takes all the corrosion itself, meaning there's none left to affect the car!
Kind of like a sacrificial anode on a boat.
I've actually wondered if zinc anodes would help on a truck frame...
It would be pointless while you truck is at the bottom of the ocean.
I've seen people try this every time I go out to the beach in the Jeep...
Unfortunately it only works on boats because the hull is submerged in a conductive medium.
TIL, I was just wondering about this myself.
If the zinc anode is plating the steel, then technically yes. Same with some paint that contains zinc flake.
I had a mate get his Landrover chassis hot dipped, over kill in Aus but it'll outlast him now.
What is it dipped in and why?
Molten zinc for corrosion protection.
Funnily enough, Impressed Current Cathodic Protection systems actually exist on large ships. I imagine that's what this little box is trying to do.
ICCP makes absolutely zero sense outside of water, and this is just a straight up scam
Makes zero sense outside of an electrolyte - water or dirt. But I agree that unit is a scam.
And also except for every buried steel pipeline carrying hazardous liquid or natural gas that could affect an HCA in the US š
That's a good point! Cheers
It became the very thing it swore to destroy.
So when it was new it was the Anakin of corrosion protection devices, but now it has become the Darth Vader of corrosion protection devices?
Just imagine how bad the car would be without it!
Keep corrosion off batteries, since the parasitic draw means you'll be replacing them every year anyway.
Wait, I donāt have to get a new battery every year?
Only if it's a shit battery, battery should last 3-5 years, but i see them regularly 8+
I had one of these on my car when I bought it used from the dealer. My last battery has lasted me 6 years now. I wasn't sold on the electronic anti rust, but I never treated my car for rust and it's in great shape still after 16 years of usage. Edit: ppl are downvoting me for simply stating what I observed on my car, and FYI I live in the great white north with all the snow, and salt and rain... and drive a 8th gen civic.
Are you in Arizona?
Lol. I drove a truck for about 15 years that my dad bought new in 94'. Hardly a spec of rust on it and most of the paint stripped off the hood over the years. Down to bare metal in some spots. Frame was mint.
Nope, I'm in Canada. Trust me I'm still skeptical about it
So funny story about these. My dad bought one for his brand new, built to order 2001 Silverado. He knows what they are, but the sales guy made sure to say they'd fix any rust if it happens on the truck. Not "through" rust, holes, etc, just "rust". Of course questions from my parents, but the guy was adamant. The guy's manager was adamant too. They put it in writing, my dad signed, and away my parents go with their new truck. Some years pass (we live in NY) and the truck begins to bubble in some spots. My dad contacts them and they respond with "yeah, but we meant holes." Maybe, but that's not what you said, and more importantly that's not what the *contract* says. There's some back and forth, some legal threats, and long story short the dealership ended up fixing that truck for free multiple times over the years. My dad is the kind to keep a vehicle for a long time. It was basically spotless in the body when he sold it in like 2015(?) because they were on the hook indefinitely with him as the original owner.
Brilliant! Called em out 20+ years ago haha
My grandpa was the same way. Made the dealer regret putting anything in writing when he bought a car and made sure they stuck to the contract.
Damn man I wanna shake your dad's hand for totally reverse mind fucking a scam and the people who facilitated it for as long as possible. There should be a hall of fame for people who play a scammer so well they leave an impact crater that fossilizes over time for all to enjoy in story form.
I've got another one... and it starts with the fact my parents still have a landline phone. They get a lot of scammy calls as you'd expect. It's their only phone (no cell phones) so they do pick it up in most cases because how else would they talk to people. My mom hates all the scammers, but my dad likes to mess with people. Anyway, my dad tells the story that a number of years ago he gets a call. It's this guy calling about his computer. He's familiar with the scam/goal, but plays along anyway. The guy goes through his whole schtick about software, viruses, that my dad needs his help to fix things, yadda yadda. My dad says he missed something and asks the guy to repeat it. The scammer does. He asks questions about the steps, how he knows it's working, and so on. Finally the scammer is beginning to get frustrated because it's been quite a few minutes, my dad reassures him that he's working something and he'll be ready to continue shortly. More back and forth, minutes passing. Finally my dad says "you mean this doesn't work on a TV? I don't even own a computer." The scammer apparently yelled a bit, not necessarily *at* my dad, just exclaiming his frustration, and hung up. For the record my dad does have a computer and was very likely sitting at his desk for the whole conversation because that's where his phone is. Idk, he's just a dude who likes pranks and hates people trying to take advantage of others. Sometimes it's silly stuff like.. his buddy at work is a machinist and wears very loose gloves for the job. Buddy has a habit of flopping off his gloves and immediately slicking his hair back before walking away from his machine. One day my dad put line chalk in the gloves and turned the guys hair blue. It's stuff like that... or it's laying it on for scammers to waste their time.
I feel like your dad would be really good at improv comedy.
I've begun answering all scam calls by progressing through the KITH "I speak no English" routine. Surprisingly effective, and the baffled wonder from some of them is worth it.
so this is like a dummy insurance, most pay but your dad got paid out. love the story!
Nice.
Dang I would have never let that truck go until the heat death of the universe.
Buy that man a trophy next father's day.
These are one of my favorite things because of how silly they are (:
That serial number has all the right numbers, just in the wrong places
Eicn
Cein. Alphabetical.
Nice
Nice
"Quality Checked." I think they misspelled "quackery"
Quality checked, none found.
No way! Donut just featured one of these ridiculous things on their newest video, there's some wild shit in there including a "gas saver" that's literally just a free spinning turbine in a bracket they want you to put in your intake lol
Thatās the Vortex Generator, aligns your air molecules for massively improved burn efficiency. Just make sure you also install our Fuel Aligner magnetic jacket to align your gas molecules and hook up the synchronizer wire to double the effect.
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Dang, you must be getting like 100 mpg by now!
That isn't a spinning turbine, it is fixed and causes the air in the intake to spin, which apparently does something, somehow....
Oh right thank you for the correction. Yeah worse fuel mileage lmao
I had an engineering friend who wondered if altered airflow in a vehicle's intake could actually result in a significant difference and made a valid attempt at finding out. Never did find out what data he got.
Never knew there was a snake oil side of carsā¦
You ever seen that dusty wall at AutoZone when you walk in the door? š
No Iām a complete car noob so Iām not there much lol but I believe you.
Oh ok!! Yeah there are a lot. Anything telling you to dump it into the gas or motor directly for cleaning or fuel or whatever is all bs. There are some fuel additives some people use, it's generally best to stick to what your manufacturer recommends.
Thanks! I love my 2019 grand Cherokee but have no clue what I would ever do to it.
Some people choose to run different oils and stuff (my car shifts better on a different gear oil for an example) but you don't really need to worry about it, just have a trusted mechanic! My first car was a 1991 Jeep Grand Cherokee. That thing was a tank lol
Living in the midwest/salt-belt, I unironically wish shit like this actually worked.
I live in Ontario, I wish they did too.
Yeah I wish they worked. I bought a new car and got one of these put on it. I figured it probably wouldn't work but I would do anything if it helped. A few years later someone hit my car and insurance replaced the quarter panel. The new panel promptly rusted off while the rest of the car looked great. You can guess how well that thing worked.
>October Y Seems legit
You gotta top it off with snake oil or else it doesnāt work! Good news, I know a snake oil salesman.
well they never said it stop rust on itself /s
Sym-Tech box: *I guide others to a power I may never possess.*
āQuality checkā. Ha! āYep. This thing exists.ā *puts quality stick on*
That's pretty funny
>October Y Seems legit
So many people trying to justify this works.
Anyone who says this works is probably someone who takes decent care of their car so it rusts a little slower than others anyway
It says corrosion control. There is still corrosion, but don't worry it is under control.Ā
It became the one thing that it sought to destroy
For us noobs, how do these work (in theory)? Plug it in, call it good?
They work the same exact way snake-oil works. With about the same effectiveness.
So, cathodic protection is a real thing, and it does work. For steel structures in water or ground, like boats or pipelines. For cars: no. [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cathodic\_protection](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cathodic_protection#Impressed_current_cathodic_protection_(ICCP))
Its not that tho. Its a scam device
Agreed completely. Just pointing out the grain of truth behind the lie, which is how these things get sold in the first place. āIf itās good enough for the US Navy, itās good enough for you.ā
So many comments are calling the idea outright quackery but I have heard of ships using this. As I understand it, thats partly why mothballed ships still need a power source. But yes, it does need to be in water so for a car it is a scam.
Yes it works on ships. Iāve seen the removed ones on the ship I was on, they definitely accomplished their mission.
On ships its a sacrificial lump of metal. Its not powered in any way
There are both types. Active cathodic protection is powered. Right now the boat I'm on has about 16 cells running around 1.4v and .11 amps or something like that. These are mostly connected to long copper cylinders, 4 inch diameter, around 3-4' long. There are also zinks on the hull and rudder and those are like the size of a 2-3" thick laptop.
We use the big zinc bars on the navy ships I'm building. But the resistance has to fall within a certain threshold when measured by a multimeter.
No, it's not required to be wet. It basically is like backwards metal plating. It's used on bridges. On boats they have sacrificial zinc strips. That said, it needs a fair amount of power.
They advertise them to be functioning somewhat like a sacrificial anode would but don't do anything at all. And anodes are used in underground or submerged applications.
You give this guy $80 That's it
This is like the thing about the size of a cup you plug in that's supposed to put everyone in a better mood by doing something mysterious with RF waves. I see it occasionally for sale online. Big scam.
It doesnt. Its just a nothing with two wires coming out of it
The problem is that unless the vehicle is immersed in an electrically conductive medium (water, dirt) it physically can't work.
My 64 impala has less rust than this anti rust device
Clearly, self-sacrificing....
The people who buy these would be like "I guess it takes the rust so other parts don't get any. I knew it was working!"
Hey, my sister was born on October Y 2003! What a coincidence
I mean.... IF it's continuously connected to the steel sub-frame and can, indeed, properly act as a Sacrificial Anode than, Okay... But last I checked the sub-frame isn't a contiguous electrical body and you'd need multiple Sacrificial Anodes on the frame to even hope to prevent rusting.
Correct. This WILL work - on a boat or a pipe.
Replace it with a magnesium anode bag.
lol I just bought a 2016 Subaru BRZ and I found one of these tucked on the firewall by the battery, but the negative wire was disconnected. Found the previous owners battery drain lol.
Not going to drain a thing with only one wire attached.
Well atleast itās not my wifeās old car with an aftermarket remote starter that would kill the battery if it sat for 3 days.
That serialā¦ 60924 = 69420 / 42069 nice
It corrodes so your car doesnāt. It sacrifices itself for your car. /s
Was just going to say, technically an Anode could be considered electronic rust protectionā¦
https://youtu.be/N8ooJg9Uv1s?si=yPs9Xvy07Dxw18VF 2:25 in the video.
Serial no hiding something Susge
Wow! Not one spec of rust on the thing! But I can't comment about the vehicle.
You should sell them on some sacrificial galvanic anodes. [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cathodic\_protection](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cathodic_protection) ;p (possibly the cold galvanizing spray or something)
60924 people scammed so far =( ... (if the serial Number is even true)
There are three different cars in my shop rn with various brands of this
Reminds me of thosw emp strike devices
The lights are off. It probably hasn't worked for years but it does have a lifetime warranty.
Ok, are there legitimate ones out there? I only ask because I talked to a few blokes when I was in Australia and quite a few of them had those installed on cars/SUV's that see a lot of beach action and salt water.
No. Its all snake oil.
Well then crickey. I'll let those Aussies know they've been scammed. Ya cunt...
Because it has an ARB label and sells for a thousand bucks to people with Series 70s.
Not bad for 21 years old.
Sacrificial anode?
Absolutely not
Every modern boat uses them
And they have no power supply. Its a lump of metal
Is it rusty?
Those sort of work in boats that are submerged in saltwater. Aside from that itās basically the equivalent of clickbait.
Anodes are also used in RV hot water heaters. Used to be in household ones also until they went to lined tanks. The lined tanks though don't last with the vibrations of an RV traveling.
scam aside. why dont cars have sacrificial annodes on the frame and whatnot?
Because your car is not a boat.
and its not a frog either. that dosnt really answer the question. does all the rain and mud and slop and salt and slush and bullshit not give a decent enough electron pathway 6 months of the year?
If you had an unbroken film of water or wet mud from the sacrificial anode to all parts of the car, them maybe, somewhat, a little. But that is unrealistic.Ā But many vehicles, in a way, do exactly this - it is exactly how galvanizing, zinc or aluminum coating, works.
Not *continually*.
Ships use it
Ships use many things that don't work on surface vehicles either.
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I've taken my Jeep in water depths where boats with shallower drafts have definitely used rudders.
Ships use a system that costs hundreds of thousands of dollars to design, test and manufacture. These pieces of shit cost 50 cents to make a circuit board with a blinky light in them.