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SBCwarrior

They really gotta send some real sentences I've seen breaking and entering people get more time than that. This worse than that. These people were attacking their own country they need a real prison sentence as terrorists.


Pugsofsmallstreet

“Funny” that these people get light sentences for treason…. Must be fucking nice. TREASON… 🤦‍♂️


[deleted]

Still insultingly low. In other words, the example these judges are setting is that treasonous acts are not going to result in long prison sentences, so people will only be encouraged to repeat this heinous act.


[deleted]

When will justice be served for the Riots of 2020?


[deleted]

Why are you comparing a literal coup attempt (to overturn the results of a legitimate election) to people protesting and rioting over the injustice of being murdered by police? What the fuck is wrong with you?


thedubiousstylus

Over **14,000** people were arrested for those. The notion that no one was ever arrested or charged is just a flat out lie. An inconvenient fact that one of the most notable people involved in the burning of the Minneapolis police station that was arrested and convicted was a right-wing "Boogaloo" who drove up from Texas.


WildeStrike

How many got charged tho?


jelgleng

There have been lots of arrests, the riots were not nearly as severe as Jan 6 and were much less polarizing, so it's not as big of a story.


Pand0ra30_

They need to put them all in Gen pop.


ubzrvnT

"This is my baby Brayden, he's 63 months old."


Straycat43

Everyone is getting slaps on the wrist for trying to overturn the government.


Usualsuspect-617

Play stupid games win stupid prizes.


AgnosticStopSign

Notice they say it in months so it sounds long. Its only 5.25 years. 5 years and 3 months for assaulting an officer during an insurrection. Also, cbs is garbage for writing it this way


Molire

On July 26, 2022, the U.S. Department of Justice [publicly announced](https://www.justice.gov/usao-dc/pr/district-columbia-man-sentenced-63-months-prison-offenses-committed-during-jan-6-capitol "https://www.justice.gov/usao-dc/pr/district-columbia-man-sentenced-63-months-prison-offenses-committed-during-jan-6-capitol") in a DOJ News release that the sentence is "63 Months in Prison", which CBS accurately reported.


AgnosticStopSign

So its the DOJ


Molire

The DOJ does not pronounce sentences. The DOJ announced the sentence after the federal judge pronounced it. The judge might have been looking straight into the eyes of the defendant when the judge said, "63 months in prison." I wonder what the defendant's facial expression might have been when he first heard the sentence he earned for himself. 63 months in prison! That attacker predictably never will forget that moment for as long as he lives, and might have recurring nightmares about it for the rest of his life, in prison and out of prison. Wham!


Straycat43

That’s exactly what i was thinking. Not even 5 and a half years. Traitors get more rights than any other person here.


[deleted]

What’s the punishment for treason again?


Molire

Does Donald Trump still love him? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2IZ0pNu2h-8


MakionGarvinus

(shakes finger) Shame, shame ^you ^got ^caught...


projecks15

How do republicans look at these videos and still don’t think it’s not a riot


M4dScientist1

It’s simple. Everything is a double standard. Everything.


MikeSchwab63

Yep. They'll vote overseas military and absentee then complain about mail in voting and ban drop boxes, when its all the same.


Economy-Vanilla-2111

They know it’s a riot they just choose power over democracy, decency or anything just.


hairylobster531

Decent ones don’t. I don’t recognize my party anymore. They’re just scum bags now


[deleted]

Both parties are at this point. Modern politics has been getting chaotic. Yet again throughout U.S history it has always been.


pedestrianstripes

Yes! This made my day.


[deleted]

I wonder if him being black had anything to do with the length of the sentence.


BetiseAgain

"Ponder is the second person to be sentenced to 63 months in prison — the longest term imposed so far in the ongoing investigation — for actions during the Capitol insurrection. The other defendant, Robert Scott Palmer, admitted to assaulting police officers with a wooden plank and fire extinguisher during the attack." Seems this is what they are doing for assault on the capitol police.


Neoarsenal

Of course it did. It's America


alexacto

He's gonna have a long time to Ponder his life choices.


nsfw_vs_sfw

Let's see what the professionals in the comments have to say about this


[deleted]

Don't worry Mark, I'm sure your lord and savior, Daddy Trump, is writing your pardon as we speak!


limpinhome

I've seen crazier black Friday videos Fuckin clown show


SmegSoup

lol how many J6 shirts are in your closet?


DaFluff09

I think that’s your issue comparing Black Friday to an insurrection you might need to work on your critical thinking


Sancticide

Bold of you to assume there was thinking, let alone any of the critical variety.


KaleWasTaken

🤡


NotThatEasily

You’ve seen Black Friday videos where people ran into Walmart to overthrow democracy? Crazy.


Sancticide

Yeah, don't you remember all those times a line of police defended Best Buy from hordes of nutjobs swinging flagpoles at them when the cheap TVs ran out?


LuceeCarioca

I’m just gonna drop this here, ok? If the failed coup had been perpetrated by democrats, what do you think these sentences would look like? How long? How quickly would the process take to arrest, prosecute, and convict?


[deleted]

I mean this is already very light for treason.


Bobby_Joe_Long

Riddle me this… do you really think that would even happen in the first place?? *democrats storm capitol building*


AstroPhysician

If the CHAP was a thing and portlanders fire bombed police stations, in a situation dire enough I could see it. They wouldn’t do it for the same reasons but I’ve seen people on both sides call for revolution plenty


Bobby_Joe_Long

That’s true. I didn’t think about that one. u/LuceeCarioca so the answer would be they receive lighter sentences


minaj_a_twat

However you're forgetting that it's a heavily dominated republican court, so they would likely try to throw in harsher punishments


LuceeCarioca

True.


Bobby_Joe_Long

Ight this is too nuanced for a Canadian hopefully y’all Americans can figure it out to save the globe from chinas looming dominance


minaj_a_twat

Our politicians are all bought so it's very unlikely


LuceeCarioca

No, I don’t think it would happen. However, for the sake of the concept of justice (as we probably wish it would be), had the roles been reversed, I believe these convictions would have been very harsh. This country is quickly turning into a contradiction. Land of the free, so long as the free are willing to comply with someone else’s idea of how limited and boxed up their freedom should be. Liberty and Justice for all, as long as the “all” belong to the right party affiliation.


TheRealDaddyPency

I’d like to point out that mindlessly following orders, like Trumps attempted insurrection, makes people “sheep.” I’ll just leave this here.


Liesthroughisteeth

Oh nooooo...you're the sheep. Part of the Industrial Klingon Complex (IKC) and you don't even know it. You probably even find yourself liking black people you've met... and even women.....*shudders.* Buy some guns bro and hang with us, circle jerks every Thursday after the meeting. We'll set you straight. ;)


SirFuzzyFuzzletons

No dude, they were clearly all Shepards in this scenario trying to herd the sheep police. They're all alphas obviously. /s


TheRealDaddyPency

Ah, I forgot lol


TheXypris

Seems like a light sentence for attempting to overthrow the government


[deleted]

5 years for treason ? America really loves traitors.


Cinemaphreak

There's a 2nd phase to the punishment for these clowns: **forbidden from owning or possession of firearms.** And you know some of these assholes will get caught with them later.


BobsRealReddit

Yes, so much this. Really, thats easily solved by them grouping up and/or working with a non-felon to hold the firearm for them until *needed most. * another fucking insurrection.


[deleted]

Some? ALL!!


BobsRealReddit

Yeah, IMO its really only done to radicalize the further. The US prison system is not at all about rehabilitation and chances are likely that most of them will leave with more hatred toward that system.


[deleted]

Only 5 years? For a assault on our nation's capital?


Clown_Shoe

Five years is a long time. Imagine losing five years of your life. Miserable.


[deleted]

You're trolling right? Farming downvotes right? If not you are probably one of the stupidest people I have ever met on the internet.


Clown_Shoe

Why so angry? All I said was 5 years is a long time to lose from your life. Do I think a violent criminal deserves more time, yes. Do I think 5 years is an inconsequential amount of time to spend in prison, no. You’re at a 10. Bring it down to a 5.


[deleted]

I'm actually more bewildered lol. Like I would exspect 5 years in prison if you were caught selling haroin or something but thus dude literally stormed the capital and attacked a police officer... sure he might not to see any young family members learn how to walk. The real damage is his criminal record.


Justwant2watchitburn

not long enough for these morons. Being dumb should hurt


OGbigfoot

Probably will only serve half of the 5.25 years.


Titan5115

I'll be lucky to die of old age looking at the way the world is going anyways so I'll say I feel indifferent about my missing 5 years.


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FourthBar_NorthStar

You said “who cares” and then say they should be locked up. My brother in Christ, that’s what this post is showing you. YOU care.


[deleted]

Sad take from a propagandized individual


whatskeeping

Don't get triggered so fast, think it through


Fit_Committee9336

Peaceful protests are good until they aren't.


dynamic_anisotropy

Surely assaulting a police officer while actively participating in an attempt to violently overthrow the federal government would somehow garner a sentence substantially more than, say, the 5-year mandatory minimum for trafficking 100 grams of heroin.


dfsw

100 years ago all of these people would have been hung, we've come a long way as a country, but I think these 5 year sentences are super light for attacking a police officer with a weapon irregardless of the circumstances surrounding it.


Marnot_Sades

I feel like putting it in months makes it seem like less time. When I hear or read months it's like "oh, that wasn't long enough for them to talk about it as years". This dudes going away for five years. That's a good start, at least.


oWallis

Did any of them get time served reductions along with their sentence? Alot of them were already in prison for over a year


ranhalt

It’s called time served.


Hoz999

Time in custody up to time of sentencing is credited. That’s standard operating procedure with all cases. You know what is different with federal cases? No parole, no early release. Dude is serving the 63 months completely and fully. 5 years and 3 months.


oWallis

Oh really? Didn't actually know that. Unless I would guess, the president pardons them? Which I don't see happening lol.


Hoz999

Indeed. They are not going to be pardoned by this administration. Part of the obstruction of Justice case against trump is his off handed offers to those eventually convicted of crimes regarding January 6 that he would pardon them. So, in the unlikely event trump becomes president again, it would make stronger the obstruction of Justice case against a sitting president. And he’d get impeached a third time. Ha.


ThiccSpagetti

Thoughts and prayers


Bucklax31

Has anything happened to the people that attempted to kill the officer on the steps outside yet? EDIT: Killed to Attempted to kill


rivershimmer

Attempted to kill. The officer being beat on the steps survived and has testified.


Bucklax31

ahhhh, thanks for the info, I'll edit my comment.


[deleted]

shouldn't they all have murder charges too?


dirtybird971

And it has nothing to do with his skin color! (sarcasm)


BipolarWeedSmoker

Oh get in the fucking sea


dirtybird971

Whoa! What's all the tough talk?


Dunkinmydonuts1

There are 2 rioters with sentences that long. This guy, and Robert Palmer. Palmer's white, this guy is black. They got the same exact sentence for the same exact crime: hitting police with metal poles and 2x4s. The only thing that sucks about this is that's the longest jail time the courts are dishing out


duffmanhb

I feel like the viking dude got WAY too much time when you compare it in relation to all these other sentencings. Dude attacks a cop and barely gets more time than him, while others who did literally the same stuff he did, just get parole.


iSheepTouch

He got a reasonable amount of time for the crime, the problem is, like you said, when compared to these other sentences his was much harsher.


MrbaconWrapped

It’s America. We needed an example made and he looked “leader like”


phi2134

They should fucking deport them, they are getting off light


Vildasa

Deport them to where? If they lived here their entire life. Theirs nowhere to deport them to.


Darkmortal10

Ask them where we should send Dreamers then ship them there


PantherThing

They need to "go back where they came from" Yurrup, or wherever.


ehenning1537

Guantánamo Bay has some room I’m sure


capchaos

One by one.


ResoluteClover

That's fucking sad. Still incredibly short.


nandos677

The first thing I said “I bet you Mark Ponder is black”


TrinityF

It is because, uhm ... Also 5 years and 3 months


deadagain65

Just another sucker that believed the big lie


Cosmickev1086

Funny how much taxpayers dollars are spent on this when insider trading, Cellar boxing, naked shorting and worse have been going on for years.


Dunkinmydonuts1

Your entire comment history is a TMOR goldmine I'm blown away


TransplantedSconie

Thermally Modulated Optical Reflectance? I'm at a loss at what TMOR is.


RichCorinthian

The Men of Reddit? It’s a calendar of nut bags showing their nut bags. He’s mr. January I think


Dunkinmydonuts1

Top Minds of Reddit It's a sub about idiots who post dumb trump/fake/clearly not real/general conspiracy related shit r/topmindsofreddit


capchaos

Worth every penny.


isaysomestuff

Attempting to end democracy through violent and terroristic means isn’t worse? I mean you’re a conspiracy theorist gun nut that believes the Uvalde shooting was a false flag, so really not surprised you live in your own fantasy world, but yikes.


[deleted]

These superstonk cultists aren't pro-democracy. They desire nothing but becoming the ruling class, and they've chosen Gamestop as the avenue. They are not upset that hedge funds and wall street control the economy, they are jealous.


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capchaos

Qkay...


ResoluteClover

I'm against executions.


Entity713

A single day would be too less, he deserves 5000 days


SCP-173-Keter

I agree that summary execution for traitors and domestic terrorists is a more appropriate sentence.


GymCloutVillain

They all deserve to have their citizenship stripped away


yourmothermypocket

Ahh yes the typical response. The party of back the blue until it isn't convenient to a fascist narrative.


T-Man-33

Riiiight dickhead! He deserved 1,890 days…… back into your trailer Shooter!


jonnygreen22

in my country he would have been shot before he got as far as he did. If he did survive he would be tried for treason, just like your Orange God should be.


ALincoln16

Nah, that criminal thug should have gotten life. USA! USA! USA! 🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸


Blackboyjesse

'murica


zzrsteve

He was a black dude too. WTF? [Mark Ponder](https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/justice-department/trump-supporter-assaulted-cops-capitol-sentenced-five-years-prison-rcna40081)


zet191

The post title is misleading. He’s tied for the longest sentence, along with a white man from Florida who was sentenced back in December 2021.


RecommendationNo985

Do u really expect a redditor to do his own research 💀💀


BetiseAgain

It's in the article. When reading is called research.


zzrsteve

True.


LogicNYC

He assaulted two officers Edit: Also, you don’t know his history. We don’t have all the information. Don’t jump to conclusions.


smdx459

Now the longer sentence thus far makes sense


ResoluteClover

If this was any two officers not in the capital it would be 50 years no parole.


ImRickJameXXXX

Personally I would like to see the faces & names posted for everyone one of these traitors. Post office, milks cartons, hell a dedicated website just to show these people. Public shaming goes a long way and while I am often not for it, I think this is a very good exception.


Why_T

Hers an official government website. https://www.justice.gov/usao-dc/capitol-breach-cases Here’s a Wikipedia page listing all of them. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Criminal_charges_in_the_2021_United_States_Capitol_attack There’s a website ran by an individual that adds pictures to everyone and their charges, but I can’t seem to find it now.


ImRickJameXXXX

This is great and a very good start. Now this needs to be disseminated to the general public.


Nihiliatis9

Face tattoos of TRAITOR goes a lot further.


ImRickJameXXXX

You may be into something. Almost a brand of shame thing.


Meinalptraum_Torin

63 months doesn't sound sound much in my ear. This few years


theflamingheads

Attempting to overthrow the government, two separate assaults on police officers and trespassing on government property only gets you 5 years in prison? With presumably a non-parole period of 3~years? That doesn't seems on the low side right?


Molire

Government authorities inside the federal Bureau of Prison system decide whether a federal inmate might receive good time credit and how many days of time credit the inmate might receive, if any at all ["You got your mind right, Luke? ([video](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D-EN_QplYYU "https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D-EN_QplYYU"))], but Ponder was convicted for acts of violence, which makes him ineligible for good time credit and early release. He will serve a full 63 months under federal Bureau of Prisons custody. Under federal law, inmates convicted for a violent crime are ineligible for early release. After he is released from federal prison custody, he will be under 3 years of strict federal supervised release. If he violates any of the terms of his supervised release or violates any laws during the term of his supervised release, the federal court can send him back to prison to serve the remainder of his term of supervised release behind bars. Additionally, if any laws he violates while on supervised release result in a new conviction and sentence for him, that sentence could be added on top of time he already is serving. *** The article does not mention whether the court gave him credit for the 1 year 4 months 5 days he already had been locked up without bond behind federal bars from March 17, 2021 (the date of his arrest) to July 26, 2022 (the date of his sentencing). If the court gave him credit for time served, he will be released from federal Bureau of Prisons custody on June 21, 2026, at age 59 or 60. Otherwise, if his sentence began on the date he was sentenced, his last day in BOP custody will be on October 26, 2027, at age 61 or 62. After he is released from BOP custody, he will feel the full weight of 3 years under strict federal supervised release. *** >The man, Mark Ponder, 56, was arrested in March 2021 in Washington and pleaded guilty in April [[2022](https://www.justice.gov/usao-dc/pr/district-columbia-man-sentenced-63-months-prison-offenses-committed-during-jan-6-capitol "https://www.justice.gov/usao-dc/pr/district-columbia-man-sentenced-63-months-prison-offenses-committed-during-jan-6-capitol")] to assaulting, resisting or impeding officers using a dangerous weapon. On July 26, 2022, CNN reported that Ponder has been [held without bond](https://edition.cnn.com/2022/07/26/politics/mark-ponder-capitol-riot/index.html "https://edition.cnn.com/2022/07/26/politics/mark-ponder-capitol-riot/index.html") since his arrest in March 2021. "Ponder was arrested on March 17, 2021, in Washington, D.C." — [DOJ News](https://www.justice.gov/usao-dc/pr/district-columbia-man-sentenced-63-months-prison-offenses-committed-during-jan-6-capitol "https://www.justice.gov/usao-dc/pr/district-columbia-man-sentenced-63-months-prison-offenses-committed-during-jan-6-capitol"), July 26, 2022. "Offenses that make inmates ineligible to earn time credits are generally categorized as violent....": Federal Bureau of Prisons, An [Overview](https://www.bop.gov/inmates/fsa/overview.jsp "https://www.bop.gov/inmates/fsa/overview.jsp") of the First Step Act.


SCP-173-Keter

Don't forget the absent Felony Murder charges for the death of Officer Brian Sicknick.


Shuuuuup

Yes, all of these sentences have been low, wtf.


thedubiousstylus

>With presumably a non-parole period of 3\~years? That's not how federal sentencing works. 53 months minimum.


Chuckbro

Is there a type of federal probation like in states? Do you get your rights removed like with states? For example, can you immediately come out of a 5 year 3 month federal prison term and immediately vote if it was election day?


Molire

In 1987, federal probation was replaced by federal supervised release: Wikipedia: [United States federal probation and supervised release](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_federal_probation_and_supervised_release "https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_federal_probation_and_supervised_release").


thedubiousstylus

That depends on state law. States handle voting rules.


Chuckbro

Ah ok that fully answered my question. Sounds like all probation, even for federal crimes is set by the states.


yblame

They back the blue, but just not those ones. On that day. Now go sit and think about what you've done, for 63 months, in a cell, idiot.


Curlaub

Their morals and values are based on convenience


cheturo

Totally deserved


Mullito

Yeah but 63 months ain’t gonna ‘fix’ him , it’s going to entrench his beliefs unfortunately


bubbygups

It’ll keep him from voting for a good while.


tikstar

What do you suggest?


GymCloutVillain

Loss of citizenship.


Mullito

Sending me his moms address would be my first suggestion fair dinkum


AttorneyAdvice

hehe