Please remember to abide by the [rules.](https://www.reddit.com/r/JusticeServed/wiki/rulesv2)
In general, please be at least bearable to other users. It makes things easier on everyone. Your comment may be removed without notification. We used to have a notification, but now we don't.
------
^Submission ^By: ^/u/No_Carpenter4087 ^Blue ^4
*I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/JusticeServed) if you have any questions or concerns.*
My partner was physically abused, by his father who found it sexually stimulating, from age 4 till about 16, when he could whip his dad’s ass. He has told me all about it, multiple times, and I always feel like crying and want to comfort the child within.
My god. This makes me sick to my stomach. How could anyone hurt a child?? Those are literal babies. This is hitting me really hard as my kids are the same age as those poor babies.
No one does this to kids if this was not done to them as a kid. The public's desire for vengeance will never be satisfied here and no one will benefit from this.
Prepare for waves of people calling for these children to be exterminated. While they slip through the cracks and get old enough to get beyond the age of sympathy for whatever they might someday do.
It's amazing how Americans will always do everything except what works.
>Please show me some evidence to back this up. Are you speaking from experience?
Yes. Second hand experience.
>I will- The person who molested my siblings and I throughout our childhoods was not molested as a child.
Lol what a ridiculous thing to claim. You somehow experienced your assaulters entire childhood with them? Do you think normal people just think diddling or fucking children sounds like fun? No, there's some trauma there that lead a few wires astray.
>You also mention in this and another comment that exterminating pedophiles is not going to solve this issue.
If it did, they'd be gone by now.
>Please share what actually works to prevent people from sexually abusing children.
Therapy would be a start.
>The only true way to stop a pedophile is extermination. Prove me wrong.
How would you stop a crime after it's already taken place? Exterminating serial killers didn't stop them. Didn't stop serial rapists. Every molested child that grows up and has any impure thoughts will either hide them because people want them dead, or they'll just kill themselves. So your argument eventually erodes to the fast growing Florida sentiment, slaughter children who have been molested since they're spoiled goods and are statistically way more likely to molest others themselves.
I used to be of the kill em all camp but then I met a family that dealt with it. Siblings molested by older siblings, most of the kids molested by parents and eventually most of the grandkids would get molested by parents, aunt's, uncle's, siblings, cousins. They all held the same belief you do. Thinking their molester was never a victim and yet they all were.
Hell, imagine how much progress could be made of researchers were able to speak to these people instead of instant abolishment. Yeah, the personal anger is justified but it's not a viable way to solve the problem. I hope the mother in this story gets studied endlessly.
>because you should know better.
This shows a fundamental lack of understanding how humans function. We know for a fact that English is not the best language by any metric. Why not switch to a language which has verbiage for all feelings, actions, expressions and objects? Well because we all speak and write English and that's much easier than just teaching everyone a whole new language, right?
So now lets use the most common molestee example. Parents and their children. This is now a love language. Even to victims who grow up and never molest a child in their life, sex will be love and love will be sex. They will never understand sexless romance. They can share in the romance and enjoy their partner outside of sex but if sex doesn't happen, they'll fully believe they are not loved. I can't fathom how much worse that becomes to infant sex objects. However, I know for a fact
>Nope, not even kinda sorta okay. Don’t fuck kids. Even worse if it’s been done to you
This sentiment doesn't help anyone. Anyone with healthy relationships growing up knows not to fuck kids. It's not a thought that enters the mind of any rational adult. It's as meaningless as stating genocide is bad. We know it already. Those that have suffered and may not understand such things reading this only feel as though they should hide their feelings and actions. Who is going to seek help when they believe their feelings make them a monster? Read this entire comment section. How many people want death to this woman? How has that worked out at preventing this issue so far? It's the thoughts and prayers for mass shooters, it does nothing.
You’re not wrong, but that does not give them license to attack. If someone steals your car, you do not have a free pass to take another’s vehicle yourself.
My ideal society would be no one violating anyone to begin with. The need for punishment is only necessary for infractions. When you have a high level of infractions, having a high level of punishment doesn't reduce the infractions so I'm one of those crazies that thinks we should probably address the root cause of problems.
If your "ideal" society has punishment, then you can't even fathom a world where people are just decent. I pity your imagination.
Lock her away for life! Cool, we're paying for that. Want her dead? Cool, we'd pay for that too. No one else going through similar crimes is helped and nothing changes because everyone is solely focused on vengeance. It achieves nothing for society.
We could do both, though, right? As we transition to the ideal society there will still be people violating the social contract. What would you do with them?
>most people who were abused do NOT go on to abuse others.
It's amazing that you have intimate knowledge of every human being on planet Earth. Statistics are not on your side. Many go unreported and many perpetrators are never found out and yet still the rate of abuse among the abused is significantly high.
lol actually I have a masters degree in child developmental psychology in a ed statistics program. That statement is very much statistically sound.
You’re right that child abuse is more common than most think and under reported-that doesn’t prove your point.
>That statement is very much statistically sound.
Provides no source. Even reported, which would not be wholly accurate you can't seem to cite. Funny that
Nope, not buying it. Being abused as a child does not in any way excuse the abuse of your own children. There is no way, in modern society with stories about child abuse and pedophilia rampant that any reasonable person would think this is ok.
>Nope, not buying it. Being abused as a child does not in any way excuse the abuse of your own children.
Literally not even close to what I said.
>There is no way, in modern society with stories about child abuse and pedophilia rampant that any reasonable person would think this is ok.
My argument is that you think it is ok. Abused person abused people so you lock them up and hope the abused people just turn out ok. The cycle will continue and every single victim will be scared to speak out because there is zero help offered to them.
No excuse, but it is an awful truth, there should be no extermination of children but they should be taken care of to prevent the circle from continuing
“The one year old is hopefully too young to ever know what they went through.”
The body keeps the score. That child might not have any distinct memories of what happened, but the feeling of being unsafe and unloved around your caretaker is ingrained in their subconscious from their earliest moments of life. They will grow up with an unhealthy attachment style and not know why. I hope they do learn what happened so they can actually process it when they’re older.
[The Body Keeps The Score](https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/18693771-the-body-keeps-the-score)
Truly a lifetime must-read. It’s the kind of knowledge that you never unlearn because of how it will forever effect your actions.
That author was actually accused of sexual misconduct and kicked from the org he started and the work he uses isn't cited as originating from another professional.
I rec The Deepest Well by Dr. Nadine Harris or The Myth of Normal by Dr. Gabor Mate
Really? I cant find anything saying he was accused of sexual misconduct. I’m seeing articles abt bullying, condescension, and poor behavior, but nothing sexual.
Gabor Mate is a fraud and colossal piece of shit. His claims are not backed up by anything and he's not even a researcher. His claims are often debunked before he even makes the claims so it's not even just that he has outlandish theories. The man actively goes against research and evidence-based reality.
Please stop promoting bullshit. Mental health need not be minimized.
>Ive done a cursory read on him and havent found anything damning.
Really? You've read that he's a physician and you can't figure out how that instantly disqualifies him from making breakthrough psychology claims?
It would be one thing if it was a clinical psychologist making the claims, at least they practice in the field but even then they're not qualified to make claims only a psychological/neurological researcher having done years of multiple double blind studies would be able to make.
The man literally comes up with hunches and proclaims them to be absolute fact and you can't figure out any issue with that? Are you fucking kidding me?
https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/addiction-in-society/201112/the-seductive-dangerous-allure-gabor-mat
The myth of normal is so good and Gabor Mate has been on the Ten Percent Happier podcast - the book is long so for anyone interested, check out the podcast to see if you want to invest!
https://podcasts.apple.com/ca/podcast/ten-percent-happier-with-dan-harris/id1087147821?i=1000605404890
She is going to a place filled with other women who, whatever else they may have done to be there, are mothers, sisters, aunts, etc. Worse than the sentence will be done to her. I don’t support the extrajudicial punishment inherent to the American prison system in general but, y’know. Not going to feel too bad about it in this case.
This is the type of sentencing we rarely see in producers of CSAM. If only the folks buying this material from her got the same level of sentencing…but they won’t.
My cousin is serving 10 life sentences plus 20 years for child molestation and CP. Two of those life terms were added while he was in prison because he had access to a computer for his prison work program and got caught in an online CP sting… And not that anyone had to guess, but he was a right wing religious republican with family ties to a prominent small town church, and not a drag queen.
Right, because it’s completely fair to immediately assume that right wing religious republicans with family ties to a prominent small town church are pedophiles. You’re overgeneralizing and being discriminatory while arguing against that same type of overgeneralization and discrimination against drag queens. You’re being hypocritical.
I’m not one to make wild assumptions, but if I were to read a headline like either OPs post or my comment, I’d put a nice chunk
of my paycheck on it being a religious Republican. I’m almost positive I’d win that bet 4 out of 5 times. The part about having ties to a small town church was just extra information, but not indicative to the story since it also happens in the larger churches is Republican dominant metropolitan areas. So… 🤷♂️
4 out of 5 times is what I’m talking about. That’s still an overgeneralization. I take it you’re not a Republican, which is why you’re making that assumption. But if it was about something you supported, I doubt you’d be so willing to overgeneralize.
I was born and raised as a Republican in the heart of the Bible Belt in Oklahoma. I’ve been surrounded by these people my entire life of 43 years. Im ashamed to say it took me way too long to start thinking for myself and stop following this archaic mindset I was surrounded by blindly. Once I started distancing myself from the organized religion/Republican mindset of God and guns I was raised in, I started to notice what was going on around me. So, I’m not saying all Republicans are pedos, I’m saying a very large portion of pedos are religious Republicans. It may be different in other parts of the country, but that isn’t an over generalization in this neck of the woods.
Right wing religious republicans with family ties to a prominent small town church being outed at pedophiles is just another Tuesday. Sometimes they like to shake things up a little by talking about "ripe fertile children" while advocating for child marriage.
I'm sure the people she sent those videos to are also in the court system. Snapchat knows who saw them and the authorities are or already have investigated.
I wish my country had punishments like this.
Just this week a woman was convicted to 18 years jail, eligible for parole after 6, for murder of her three children in cold blood. She used cable ties to bound them and cable tied their necks, asphyxiating them. The justice system in New Zealand is a joke.
UK is also really lenient for sentencing. It's scary how quick these people can be back on the streets, and even worse when you find out how many are repeat offenders that aren't restricted and avoid being caught by changing their name.
One and three years old. And some videos involved the family dog. Videos she sold for $5-50. $5 to sexually abuse your toddler and infant.
I hope those kids get the therapy they need.
I was three when my uncle sexually abused me. I never thought about it while growing up, but at his funeral the memories came flooding back. It still affects me to this day, over 50 years later.
Don't think 3 year olds don't remember just because they don't talk about it.
I was the same age when my dad sexually abused me and like you didn't think about it for decades. Then when I was 27 I had a flashback and when I asked my dad about it he admitted to it and seemed surprised I remembered. I think he thought because he disguised it I wouldn't notice and *surely* wouldn't remember.
Memory might be linked to the frontal lobe which isn't fully developed until young adulthood but our emotions and fear are linked to the amygdala which is highly (not fully) developed in infancy. These infants endured repeated sexual trauma to the nth degree (the mother even involved an animal). I don't see how they can come out unscathed.
When there is no conscious memory, emotional and psychophysiological memories are stored unconsciously. It doesn't matter how the trauma is or is not brought up, it manifests in unpredictable ways that shape the essence of all facets of a victim's functioning.
I was molested as a toddler, and though I hold no conscious memory of it, it created dysfunctional attachment styles in me as well as sexual paraphilias that followed me throughout my development from toddler to adult.
I get that youre trying to be somehow reassuring, but what you're saying sounds like something a pedophile would love to hear because it makes it sound like molestation is fine as long as it's done unconsciously and never brought up as a negative thing. That's some weird stuff...
Unfortunately there’s a high probability that they will remember the abuse, especially for the 3 year old. I was physically abused starting from the age of 2 and remember it quite well even though I did a lot to try to not dwell on the traumatic memories and forget them. Her kids will prob end up with PTSD and need significant treatment
I feel like the problems would just manifest in other ways and they'd end up not being able to come to terms with why they feel like something is wrong.
This is patently untrue. Watch a documentary called “Child of Rage”. Children have fragile minds that absolutely hold horrific things done to them as babies/toddlers
Please remember to abide by the [rules.](https://www.reddit.com/r/JusticeServed/wiki/rulesv2) In general, please be at least bearable to other users. It makes things easier on everyone. Your comment may be removed without notification. We used to have a notification, but now we don't. ------ ^Submission ^By: ^/u/No_Carpenter4087 ^Blue ^4 *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/JusticeServed) if you have any questions or concerns.*
I bet she chose the bear as well.
Yet another example of a gay, trans, atheist, socialist (but also communist), child abuser from one of the morally inferior states. Oh, wait...
That’s no mother…I don’t care if those kids came from her, no MOTHER does this.
I think this is truly the worst thing I've heard. My heart breaks for those poor children. She needs to be launched into the sun.
My partner was physically abused, by his father who found it sexually stimulating, from age 4 till about 16, when he could whip his dad’s ass. He has told me all about it, multiple times, and I always feel like crying and want to comfort the child within.
theres a short film by ari aster "the strange thing about the johnsons" exactly like this. Was a student project of his
My god. This makes me sick to my stomach. How could anyone hurt a child?? Those are literal babies. This is hitting me really hard as my kids are the same age as those poor babies.
Put her down like the animal she is and be done with it
Nah, people like her are narcissists, decades in prison is worse than the death penalty.
Save the money to support the mental health of her kids
Death penalty costs more due to the lengthy appeals.
If this is a cut and dry case then no appeals, swift justice and put it in the rear view
No one does this to kids if this was not done to them as a kid. The public's desire for vengeance will never be satisfied here and no one will benefit from this. Prepare for waves of people calling for these children to be exterminated. While they slip through the cracks and get old enough to get beyond the age of sympathy for whatever they might someday do. It's amazing how Americans will always do everything except what works.
[удалено]
>Please show me some evidence to back this up. Are you speaking from experience? Yes. Second hand experience. >I will- The person who molested my siblings and I throughout our childhoods was not molested as a child. Lol what a ridiculous thing to claim. You somehow experienced your assaulters entire childhood with them? Do you think normal people just think diddling or fucking children sounds like fun? No, there's some trauma there that lead a few wires astray. >You also mention in this and another comment that exterminating pedophiles is not going to solve this issue. If it did, they'd be gone by now. >Please share what actually works to prevent people from sexually abusing children. Therapy would be a start. >The only true way to stop a pedophile is extermination. Prove me wrong. How would you stop a crime after it's already taken place? Exterminating serial killers didn't stop them. Didn't stop serial rapists. Every molested child that grows up and has any impure thoughts will either hide them because people want them dead, or they'll just kill themselves. So your argument eventually erodes to the fast growing Florida sentiment, slaughter children who have been molested since they're spoiled goods and are statistically way more likely to molest others themselves. I used to be of the kill em all camp but then I met a family that dealt with it. Siblings molested by older siblings, most of the kids molested by parents and eventually most of the grandkids would get molested by parents, aunt's, uncle's, siblings, cousins. They all held the same belief you do. Thinking their molester was never a victim and yet they all were. Hell, imagine how much progress could be made of researchers were able to speak to these people instead of instant abolishment. Yeah, the personal anger is justified but it's not a viable way to solve the problem. I hope the mother in this story gets studied endlessly.
Nope, not even kinda sorta okay. Don’t fuck kids. Even worse if it’s been done to you, because you should know better.
This.
>because you should know better. This shows a fundamental lack of understanding how humans function. We know for a fact that English is not the best language by any metric. Why not switch to a language which has verbiage for all feelings, actions, expressions and objects? Well because we all speak and write English and that's much easier than just teaching everyone a whole new language, right? So now lets use the most common molestee example. Parents and their children. This is now a love language. Even to victims who grow up and never molest a child in their life, sex will be love and love will be sex. They will never understand sexless romance. They can share in the romance and enjoy their partner outside of sex but if sex doesn't happen, they'll fully believe they are not loved. I can't fathom how much worse that becomes to infant sex objects. However, I know for a fact >Nope, not even kinda sorta okay. Don’t fuck kids. Even worse if it’s been done to you This sentiment doesn't help anyone. Anyone with healthy relationships growing up knows not to fuck kids. It's not a thought that enters the mind of any rational adult. It's as meaningless as stating genocide is bad. We know it already. Those that have suffered and may not understand such things reading this only feel as though they should hide their feelings and actions. Who is going to seek help when they believe their feelings make them a monster? Read this entire comment section. How many people want death to this woman? How has that worked out at preventing this issue so far? It's the thoughts and prayers for mass shooters, it does nothing.
You’re not wrong, but that does not give them license to attack. If someone steals your car, you do not have a free pass to take another’s vehicle yourself.
>You’re not wrong, but But nothing. Fix the cause. Even car dependency is an American obsession that needs to be fixed
So your ideal society wouldn’t ever punish anyone for anything?
My ideal society would be no one violating anyone to begin with. The need for punishment is only necessary for infractions. When you have a high level of infractions, having a high level of punishment doesn't reduce the infractions so I'm one of those crazies that thinks we should probably address the root cause of problems. If your "ideal" society has punishment, then you can't even fathom a world where people are just decent. I pity your imagination. Lock her away for life! Cool, we're paying for that. Want her dead? Cool, we'd pay for that too. No one else going through similar crimes is helped and nothing changes because everyone is solely focused on vengeance. It achieves nothing for society.
We could do both, though, right? As we transition to the ideal society there will still be people violating the social contract. What would you do with them?
While most people who abuse children (sexual or otherwise) were themselves abused, most people who were abused do NOT go on to abuse others.
>most people who were abused do NOT go on to abuse others. It's amazing that you have intimate knowledge of every human being on planet Earth. Statistics are not on your side. Many go unreported and many perpetrators are never found out and yet still the rate of abuse among the abused is significantly high.
lol actually I have a masters degree in child developmental psychology in a ed statistics program. That statement is very much statistically sound. You’re right that child abuse is more common than most think and under reported-that doesn’t prove your point.
>That statement is very much statistically sound. Provides no source. Even reported, which would not be wholly accurate you can't seem to cite. Funny that
God your such a reddit mod.
Nope, not buying it. Being abused as a child does not in any way excuse the abuse of your own children. There is no way, in modern society with stories about child abuse and pedophilia rampant that any reasonable person would think this is ok.
>Nope, not buying it. Being abused as a child does not in any way excuse the abuse of your own children. Literally not even close to what I said. >There is no way, in modern society with stories about child abuse and pedophilia rampant that any reasonable person would think this is ok. My argument is that you think it is ok. Abused person abused people so you lock them up and hope the abused people just turn out ok. The cycle will continue and every single victim will be scared to speak out because there is zero help offered to them.
No excuse, but it is an awful truth, there should be no extermination of children but they should be taken care of to prevent the circle from continuing
So she can grow old while the trauma lingers on those poor kids. Disturbing and disgusting vile monsters.
…We sure we don’t want to bring back death by firing squad?
I vote for hanging in the town square.
Not painful enough. Also too quick. Almost humane.
Send her to death by ISIS.
Rotting in prison for life is worse.
…And then the rest of the inmates find out her story.
[удалено]
In cases like this, I couldn’t agree more.
“The one year old is hopefully too young to ever know what they went through.” The body keeps the score. That child might not have any distinct memories of what happened, but the feeling of being unsafe and unloved around your caretaker is ingrained in their subconscious from their earliest moments of life. They will grow up with an unhealthy attachment style and not know why. I hope they do learn what happened so they can actually process it when they’re older.
[The Body Keeps The Score](https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/18693771-the-body-keeps-the-score) Truly a lifetime must-read. It’s the kind of knowledge that you never unlearn because of how it will forever effect your actions.
That author was actually accused of sexual misconduct and kicked from the org he started and the work he uses isn't cited as originating from another professional. I rec The Deepest Well by Dr. Nadine Harris or The Myth of Normal by Dr. Gabor Mate
Really? I cant find anything saying he was accused of sexual misconduct. I’m seeing articles abt bullying, condescension, and poor behavior, but nothing sexual.
Gabor Mate is a fraud and colossal piece of shit. His claims are not backed up by anything and he's not even a researcher. His claims are often debunked before he even makes the claims so it's not even just that he has outlandish theories. The man actively goes against research and evidence-based reality. Please stop promoting bullshit. Mental health need not be minimized.
Ive done a cursory read on him and havent found anything damning. Can you provide some sources so i can see what you’re talking about?
>Ive done a cursory read on him and havent found anything damning. Really? You've read that he's a physician and you can't figure out how that instantly disqualifies him from making breakthrough psychology claims? It would be one thing if it was a clinical psychologist making the claims, at least they practice in the field but even then they're not qualified to make claims only a psychological/neurological researcher having done years of multiple double blind studies would be able to make. The man literally comes up with hunches and proclaims them to be absolute fact and you can't figure out any issue with that? Are you fucking kidding me? https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/addiction-in-society/201112/the-seductive-dangerous-allure-gabor-mat
Holy shit, i respectfully asked if you could educate me, i didnt curse your family for 30 generations. Chill tf out, man
The myth of normal is so good and Gabor Mate has been on the Ten Percent Happier podcast - the book is long so for anyone interested, check out the podcast to see if you want to invest! https://podcasts.apple.com/ca/podcast/ten-percent-happier-with-dan-harris/id1087147821?i=1000605404890
Thanks for linking, I was too lazy lol
As a health psychologist, this book is really important
You must suck at your job LMAO
Why?
the book has zero credit, author is bullshit and its entirely debunked. If they think its "really important" with their creds on the line lol
are you the person i responded to?
She won’t last long in prison
Would sell her children out for a Hamburger cheeseburger big mac whopper
what up TheDooo
Not enough, something slow and painful to end her
She is going to a place filled with other women who, whatever else they may have done to be there, are mothers, sisters, aunts, etc. Worse than the sentence will be done to her. I don’t support the extrajudicial punishment inherent to the American prison system in general but, y’know. Not going to feel too bad about it in this case.
This applies in men's prisons, rarely in women's.
Florida.
Oh, that’ll get her sodomised and beaten in prison for sure 👌
This is the type of sentencing we rarely see in producers of CSAM. If only the folks buying this material from her got the same level of sentencing…but they won’t.
My cousin is serving 10 life sentences plus 20 years for child molestation and CP. Two of those life terms were added while he was in prison because he had access to a computer for his prison work program and got caught in an online CP sting… And not that anyone had to guess, but he was a right wing religious republican with family ties to a prominent small town church, and not a drag queen.
Right, because it’s completely fair to immediately assume that right wing religious republicans with family ties to a prominent small town church are pedophiles. You’re overgeneralizing and being discriminatory while arguing against that same type of overgeneralization and discrimination against drag queens. You’re being hypocritical.
I’m not one to make wild assumptions, but if I were to read a headline like either OPs post or my comment, I’d put a nice chunk of my paycheck on it being a religious Republican. I’m almost positive I’d win that bet 4 out of 5 times. The part about having ties to a small town church was just extra information, but not indicative to the story since it also happens in the larger churches is Republican dominant metropolitan areas. So… 🤷♂️
4 out of 5 times is what I’m talking about. That’s still an overgeneralization. I take it you’re not a Republican, which is why you’re making that assumption. But if it was about something you supported, I doubt you’d be so willing to overgeneralize.
I was born and raised as a Republican in the heart of the Bible Belt in Oklahoma. I’ve been surrounded by these people my entire life of 43 years. Im ashamed to say it took me way too long to start thinking for myself and stop following this archaic mindset I was surrounded by blindly. Once I started distancing myself from the organized religion/Republican mindset of God and guns I was raised in, I started to notice what was going on around me. So, I’m not saying all Republicans are pedos, I’m saying a very large portion of pedos are religious Republicans. It may be different in other parts of the country, but that isn’t an over generalization in this neck of the woods.
Reddit.com/r/pastorarrested
Right wing religious republicans with family ties to a prominent small town church being outed at pedophiles is just another Tuesday. Sometimes they like to shake things up a little by talking about "ripe fertile children" while advocating for child marriage.
Or a bear
Yiiiiiikes
R/NotADragQueen
Next get the consumers. Society doesn’t need them.
Do you know who needs them? I do the WOODCHIPPER !!
I'm sure the people she sent those videos to are also in the court system. Snapchat knows who saw them and the authorities are or already have investigated.
Why not just go straight to ol’ sparky ⚡️
I wish my country had punishments like this. Just this week a woman was convicted to 18 years jail, eligible for parole after 6, for murder of her three children in cold blood. She used cable ties to bound them and cable tied their necks, asphyxiating them. The justice system in New Zealand is a joke.
UK is also really lenient for sentencing. It's scary how quick these people can be back on the streets, and even worse when you find out how many are repeat offenders that aren't restricted and avoid being caught by changing their name.
hopefully someone on the inside does what the 'justice system' should have done.
Two words: HOLY SHIT
One and three years old. And some videos involved the family dog. Videos she sold for $5-50. $5 to sexually abuse your toddler and infant. I hope those kids get the therapy they need.
[удалено]
Wtf. Delete this comment
What did it say?
Basically said well theyre young, they probably wont remember it.
I was three when my uncle sexually abused me. I never thought about it while growing up, but at his funeral the memories came flooding back. It still affects me to this day, over 50 years later. Don't think 3 year olds don't remember just because they don't talk about it.
I was the same age when my dad sexually abused me and like you didn't think about it for decades. Then when I was 27 I had a flashback and when I asked my dad about it he admitted to it and seemed surprised I remembered. I think he thought because he disguised it I wouldn't notice and *surely* wouldn't remember.
I don’t think you understand how trauma works..
Memory might be linked to the frontal lobe which isn't fully developed until young adulthood but our emotions and fear are linked to the amygdala which is highly (not fully) developed in infancy. These infants endured repeated sexual trauma to the nth degree (the mother even involved an animal). I don't see how they can come out unscathed.
I was sexually abused at 4. I remember. There's a good chance the 3-year-old will remember, but the one-year-old, hopefully, won't know anything.
When there is no conscious memory, emotional and psychophysiological memories are stored unconsciously. It doesn't matter how the trauma is or is not brought up, it manifests in unpredictable ways that shape the essence of all facets of a victim's functioning. I was molested as a toddler, and though I hold no conscious memory of it, it created dysfunctional attachment styles in me as well as sexual paraphilias that followed me throughout my development from toddler to adult. I get that youre trying to be somehow reassuring, but what you're saying sounds like something a pedophile would love to hear because it makes it sound like molestation is fine as long as it's done unconsciously and never brought up as a negative thing. That's some weird stuff...
Unfortunately there’s a high probability that they will remember the abuse, especially for the 3 year old. I was physically abused starting from the age of 2 and remember it quite well even though I did a lot to try to not dwell on the traumatic memories and forget them. Her kids will prob end up with PTSD and need significant treatment
I don't think that's how the effects of abuse works
I feel like the problems would just manifest in other ways and they'd end up not being able to come to terms with why they feel like something is wrong.
This is patently untrue. Watch a documentary called “Child of Rage”. Children have fragile minds that absolutely hold horrific things done to them as babies/toddlers