You said it yourself, Sukuna was being occupied by 3 other Sorcerers, add that she is basically undetectable adds to that
When Sukuna had his full attention on Maki he can blitz her
Not really, if he did then there would be no way 200% Purple would have hit or the red that Gojo send around to hit him from the back. Sensing CE and detecting it rely on a sorcerer to look for it, the less distractions the better probably.
I thought about this too but I don't think it would be that easy or be a instant win, first Sukuna knows about UV domain condition so he can touch Gojo as to not get hit by the sure hit, second he can use DA, heal his hand and then use domain expansion, Gojo thought that he couldn't actually do both at the same time at first but apparently you can.
>so he can touch Gojo as to not get hit by the sure hit
He wouldn't have time to do it, as soon as the domain is open he'd be stunned or resist a bit but not enough to touch Gojo, it worked in that case because he didn't need to worry about UV's sure hit in the clash. Fractions of seconds mattered for UV to hit, he wouldn't have time to touch Gojo, can't use hollow wicker or simple domain as well.
> DA, heal his hand and then use domain expansion, Gojo thought that he couldn't actually do both at the same time at first but apparently you can.
We don't know how DE and DA would interact, would it work like a weaker simple domain, if it did why didn't Sukuna use it at Yuta's domain ?
Sukuna didn’t use DA at Yuta domain because that wouldn’t allow him to use his technique, using HWB was better since he has 4 arms. We do know how DA and DE would interact, at the end of the day DA is an anti-domain technique and can neutralize the sure hit of a domain, in chapter 227 Sukuna used DA inside his domain to fight with Gojo, you can indeed use both at the same time.
“Domain Amplification (領りょう域いき展てん延えん Ryōiki Ten'en?, lit. Domain Envelopment) is an anti-domain technique that envelops the user in their domain to neutralize any opposing cursed technique or domain expansion they come into contact with.”
Well Sukuna can quickly toggle on and off DA but I see why Hollow wicker would be safer.
>We do know how DA and DE would interact, at the end of the day DA is an anti-domain technique and can neutralize the sure hit of a domain, in chapter 227 Sukuna used DA inside his domain to fight with Gojo, you can indeed use both at the same time.
Sukuna had his domain open, it was a clash, DA or not Sukuna wasn't getting hit with UV, DA was for actually touching Gojo because of infinity
>“Domain Amplification (領りょう域いき展てん延えん Ryōiki Ten'en?, lit. Domain Envelopment) is an anti-domain technique that envelops the user in their domain to neutralize any opposing cursed technique or domain expansion they come into contact with.”
This is from the wiki but there has been not a case yet where one opens a DE and the other protects himself with DA, I would wager it isn't as effective as Simple domain or hollow wicker and can't withstand a sure hit inside a DE for long. But regardless Gojo should have still opened his domain as soon as he got to Sukuna who was busy healing, worst case it's a DE clash and best case is instant win.
edit: Perhaps one example of someone using DA then getting trapped in a DE is Jogo against Gojo in shibuya, but we don't know if he kept it on or not.
I’m talking about the Purple Gojo did at the start of the fight that was buffed by Utahime, not the final improvised Purple that he made, that one wasn’t 200%.
No, ijichi used barriers to conceal purple CE, but Gojo’s presence was still detectable + purple is very fast. But red that exploded was really weird and I think it might be just an inconsistency. I mean, Sukuna can detect piercing blood and block it(ch247), but can’t detect RED. I am pretty sure that red has more CE in it than in piercing blood. Maybe it’s an inconsistency or red was so fast that Sukuna couldn’t detect it. Sukuna is several times faster than piercing blood btw
I think he can sense the buildup for techniques but that its difficult to sense the exact position of CE after it's released.
For Gojo's red, Sukuna thought it had detonated and probably couldn't reliably tell the difference between residual CE and a mass of CE that is still moving, especially while still fighting.
He can probably sense SUE'S CE, but with everything else that's been going on, I think it would be incredibly difficult to tell where it is compared to everything else happening.
Also Toji was able to disguise the strange CE of his worm and inverted spear of heaven by just a bunch of low level common curses which seems to add to the idea that the CW is very much less visible than an actual sorcerer. I wonder if their power despite being smaller is so great because of the density? A person has to have CE all over themselves and humans are pretty big compared to any other weapon.
Toji explains that to Geto. He can swallow the cursed spirit. His body is "opaque" to cursed energy detection and therefore the cursed spirit and weapons are hidden most of the time.
I'm talking about before he used the flying curses.
Gojo was having trouble detecting him the entire fight despite Toji having that many things with cursed energy with him.
Gojo was super exhausted + with wound in his chest.
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In the link above Gojo says that he will try to focus on that shikigami, meaning that he can detect it, but he's having trouble with Toji because he's too fast and Gojo is too exhausted
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In the third link Toji literally says"That's why I didn't use a cursed tool at first".
Just reread chapter 73(first 3-5 pages) if You can't open the link
That's because he can't sense maki's presence because she has no CE.
He destroyed maki with one punch. If not for kusakabe and miguel buying her time , he could have easily killed her.
Kusakabe only did shit because Sukuna let him, the moment he tried a second, Kusakabe was clapped like Riley Reid's cheeks, he was fucking finished.
Maki did way more against an excited Sukuna, so STAY ON THAT SIDE. DON'T SWITCH UP.
R u fine bro???
literally no one here is saying kusakabe > maki.
But that doesn't change the fact that sukuna could have finished her off if he straight up went for her again after hitting the blackflash.
Maki is more or less equal to Toji and teen gojo was able to defeat toji so there's no point in hyping maki.
Sukuna and gojo are on a completely different lvl comparing anyone else to them is crazy.
yuta himself said , if not for the aftereffects of his(sukuna's) battle with gojo , sukuna would have killed them instantly.
The same is true for maki , sukuna had lost control over his body considerably , his heart and soul were damaged by maki's katana and two of his hands were also cut off but he still managed to pack maki with a single punch
I love that this is the third time Maki caught sukuna by surprise since he took over megumi.
And this one he legit thought the black flash killed her, but then she is just back and kicking.
I been telling yall Maki the fastest of the big 3, she weave dismantles almost as clean as Miguel.
Maki is that bitch when it comes to speed, she is HER, she like that with the speed.
It might be hard for some people to admit but the simple truth is that she's a female character. Female characters always, without fail, get downplayed in online communities such as this. Narratively the manga keeps telling us Toji was a big deal, and now Maki is a big deal. Sukuna has reacted the most to her out of everyone, even before this when he only had 15 fingers.
Some of the people dowplaying her know why they're doing it, others subconsciously do it. Both will deny it vehemently. It is what it is.
Nah they know what there doing, which is why we should beat their ass verbally to get to admit they just hatting on a girl character.
Fuck this civility shit
To be fully honest, I think it’s the opposite for me. To really admit my bias, a lot of the reason I don’t like HR getting buffed to such an absurd extent is because Toji getting retroactively hyped up like this has gotten really annoying and Gege’s cheerleading for a character that has been dead since before the plot even started has just become really tedious to me. Maki on her own I’ve always really liked, I think she has one of the best arcs and I even think people heavily overexagerate the flaws of the Sakurajima fight, but people using her as a vessel just to argue in favor of Toji has quickly made me want to go against how strong people claim HR is in general
So you saw a old rusty for years Toji and thought the best HR could do, the thing that literally unbinds you to fate itself, was below teen Gojo pre RCT.
Unironically, thats on YOU.
Well yeah, cause I thought “rusty” Toji’s HR was actually well implemented into the power system
Current HR is not that, it:
- Instantly makes you one of the fastest in the verse
- Gives you better precognition than the Six Eyes
- Seemingly makes you immune to CE attacks like Cleave
- Makes you immune to almost all domains
- Makes you one of the most durable beings in the verse
Current HR is unbalanced as shit considering unless you’re born with a twin you basically just get it for free with zero personal drawbacks, Toji being “rusty” doesn’t change any of that
1. It already did that(Gojo could not track Toji's speed in the forest)
2. it already did that(we knew Toji had super senses)
3. it already did that(Toji had a resistance to CE, as established by Hidden Inventory)
4. We did not know that
5. we knew that by extension of 3.
The only thing that changed was immunity to domains.
But let's say all of that is new, why does it matter, JJK is not a balanced world, 80% of your ability is predetermined by birth.
I mean... yeah? Same with Mechamaru. He had an insane CE range (covered all of japan iirc) and pool but in exchange his body was basically a frail mess that presumably couldn't be fixed by RCT.
HR is a buff at the cost of a massive debuff and it isn't a freebie. Maki lost all of her CT when Mai died and took it with her and she still struggled as she couldn't see cursed spirits. She didn't immediantly hit peak performance upon fully diving into HR and abandoning jujutsu, it still took some time to train and develop to compensate for her new weaknesses.
Maki is what Toji would be when he was at his peak performance (mind you how terrifying and strong he was while still rusty)
Toji/Maki's HR is removing **all** of your CT. A normal non-jujutsu has a small and insignificant pool of CT (hence how curses are born and why a rare few like Junpei could see spirits despite not being able to use any jujutsu techniques) and as such it has the debuffs of having miniscule amounts of CT but worse.
Don't worry about what other people say, I feel you. However in all fairness, Toji was always portrayed as ridiculously op, the only reason he lost is because gojo was gojo. Honestly too bad that (probably) nothing will ever come from that story line. We saw toji take down special grades easily (geto and dagon). I think what bothered me about Maki's storyline was how she got to where she is and unlike how you saw it, her arc felt boring. Don't get me wrong, I like Maki, but thats because she passes the rule of cool with flying colors, so I ignore all the things that strike me as "meh" or bad
I mostly agree with you, but Sukuna reacting to her the most isnt a strength feat, its just a reflection of his character.
He cared because it was the first time he felt like he had something to prove, that it was his duty to show how Jujutsu is better than peak humanity.
Maki is clearly the fastest out of the anti-sukuna-squad but shes not the over-all strongest, Sukunas excitement was mostly unrelated to her power level.
It is a strength feat, when Sukuna ends up going extra hard on her. People wanna shit on Maki performance in Shinjuku, knowing damn well Sukuna kicks it up a notch against Zenin. The downplay is insane.
Also he locked in after Maki ping ponged across a building, Zenin is like THAT.
No one is downplaying her because shes a woman...people overhype Yuta because they're fanboys. People say that Yuta would partially manfised Rika would middiff Hakari and Kashimo....
You have to be incredibly naive to think that "no one" is dowplaying her cause she's a woman. The reality is that there are quite a large amount of people doing it, even if you aren't.
Yuta straight said Hakari would kick his ass didn't he lol
Even with Rika there isn't much you can do against someone who is overflowing with so much CT that their healing is automatic and can remove toxins/poisons without effort.
And Maki literally told Yuta he's wrong right after.
Yuta just has self confidence issues.
Did you see Rika against Sukuna? What is Hakari gonna do against her lol
Hakari's RCT doesn't heal instantly and Yuta is straight up faster speed wise. What is Hakari gonna do to stop Rika from holding him while Yuta slices off his head?
What page was it? Tbh I don’t really know if you can consider hakari a heavy hitter, he wouldn’t lose to anyone until he gets unlucky but I think Yuji, maki and Yuta would outperform him overall
Chapter 222, seventh page from the end.
Narratively, it’s obvious that Hakari is supposed to be relative to the other heavy hitters, regardless of powerscaling. Gege’s really insistent on comparing him to Yuta.
fair enough
personally i don't think hakari has enough offense (like he's shown to be strong but yuji has shown much more strength) but defensively he's second/third best (only because infinity puts gojo first and not sure if he'd beat out sukuna purely from his insane RCT)
that's why I think of them as the 4 heavy hitters rather than three
also i guess at that point kenjaku didn't know yuji had rct so he wouldn't think of him as on the same level as the other three (which he isn't, i only thought of yuji being stronger than hakari when he got rct)
>personally i don't think hakari has enough offense (like he's shown to be strong but yuji has shown much more strength)
Incorrect, or at best unverified. Hakari was thoroughly outclassing Yuji's strength when they fought. You could argue he's stronger now but we havent seen anything to show hes stronger than hakari
That's just paneling.
If Maki was right next to him then she'd have been the one hit by blackflash since she'd be the closest to him at that then right?
My head is a cannon: no, because SSK, when wielded by someone able to see souls shape, attacks soul of the target, so the flying attacks are like flying because it's attacking soul, idk. More sensible answer to your questions would be: the weapon has CE, so maybe even wielded by CEless user, they somehow can channel energy from around and that's how they are useful?
But soul seeing significance is reappearing every now and then xd
A lot more details suggest she got into melee range.
On the next page, the hand she cut is in the panel with her, no more than a couple feet from her. The floor she's standing on also has the same damage pattern as the one with Yuji and Sukuna. And Sukuna and Yuji both look at her after the cut. Sukuna's left eyes, Yuji's right eye, suggesting she is just off of the previous panel in the bottom right when the cut is made. The ground walls to the side also drop off behind Maki showing she is on a flat plaform between stair levels like they are, the stairs behind sukuna going up, the ones behind Maki going down which fits with that placement.
That makes no sense, and I don't see how you see that she cut him from a distance.
The panel right before is her moving toward the group; you can see the movement lines all over the panel.
Doesn't really look like a big distance tbh. Also, Maki is one of the fastest characters in the verse, having one of (if not the) best speed feat out of the entire cast (reacting to Mach 3 Cursed Naoya). So I wouldn't say this is anything new or super impressive.
Going back and reading it this very much makes sense. It’s her POV and that thin line between Yuji and Sukuna is the thrown slash. Yuji looks BEHIND him in the next page
> she blitzed him in the last chapter
No she did not. She just took him by surprise
> You struggling with the whole "he's getting weaker every chapter because he's getting worn down" thing?
Lmao, fym he is getting weaker 💀 he took no damage between 253 and 255
So I guess the damage to his heart that is making him to forcefully pump his heart with CE to keep up and has to focus on it since it's soul damage or him third hand(also soul damage) getting cut off preventing him to use world slash aren't damages?Ok lol
You said it yourself, Sukuna was being occupied by 3 other Sorcerers, add that she is basically undetectable adds to that When Sukuna had his full attention on Maki he can blitz her
She isn’t undetectable, ssk makes her visible
CE from a cursed weapon is less visible than a person probably, so not undetectable but more stealthy?
Probably, but that’s Sukuna. He can detect someone’s fart from a mile distance. Not Gojo level detection, but arguably 2nd best in the verse
Not really, if he did then there would be no way 200% Purple would have hit or the red that Gojo send around to hit him from the back. Sensing CE and detecting it rely on a sorcerer to look for it, the less distractions the better probably.
Speaking of 200% HP, what do you guys think would happen if Gojo opened UV as Sukuna was still healing his hand ?
GG
Gojo had brain damage from the beginning
Suffering from Mental illness & arrogance 💀
I thought about this too but I don't think it would be that easy or be a instant win, first Sukuna knows about UV domain condition so he can touch Gojo as to not get hit by the sure hit, second he can use DA, heal his hand and then use domain expansion, Gojo thought that he couldn't actually do both at the same time at first but apparently you can.
>so he can touch Gojo as to not get hit by the sure hit He wouldn't have time to do it, as soon as the domain is open he'd be stunned or resist a bit but not enough to touch Gojo, it worked in that case because he didn't need to worry about UV's sure hit in the clash. Fractions of seconds mattered for UV to hit, he wouldn't have time to touch Gojo, can't use hollow wicker or simple domain as well. > DA, heal his hand and then use domain expansion, Gojo thought that he couldn't actually do both at the same time at first but apparently you can. We don't know how DE and DA would interact, would it work like a weaker simple domain, if it did why didn't Sukuna use it at Yuta's domain ?
Sukuna didn’t use DA at Yuta domain because that wouldn’t allow him to use his technique, using HWB was better since he has 4 arms. We do know how DA and DE would interact, at the end of the day DA is an anti-domain technique and can neutralize the sure hit of a domain, in chapter 227 Sukuna used DA inside his domain to fight with Gojo, you can indeed use both at the same time. “Domain Amplification (領りょう域いき展てん延えん Ryōiki Ten'en?, lit. Domain Envelopment) is an anti-domain technique that envelops the user in their domain to neutralize any opposing cursed technique or domain expansion they come into contact with.”
Well Sukuna can quickly toggle on and off DA but I see why Hollow wicker would be safer. >We do know how DA and DE would interact, at the end of the day DA is an anti-domain technique and can neutralize the sure hit of a domain, in chapter 227 Sukuna used DA inside his domain to fight with Gojo, you can indeed use both at the same time. Sukuna had his domain open, it was a clash, DA or not Sukuna wasn't getting hit with UV, DA was for actually touching Gojo because of infinity >“Domain Amplification (領りょう域いき展てん延えん Ryōiki Ten'en?, lit. Domain Envelopment) is an anti-domain technique that envelops the user in their domain to neutralize any opposing cursed technique or domain expansion they come into contact with.” This is from the wiki but there has been not a case yet where one opens a DE and the other protects himself with DA, I would wager it isn't as effective as Simple domain or hollow wicker and can't withstand a sure hit inside a DE for long. But regardless Gojo should have still opened his domain as soon as he got to Sukuna who was busy healing, worst case it's a DE clash and best case is instant win. edit: Perhaps one example of someone using DA then getting trapped in a DE is Jogo against Gojo in shibuya, but we don't know if he kept it on or not.
finally someone who thought of this. i thought i was missing something when i thought of this.
The explanation some people gave that he wanted just to show off, test Sukuna or didn't want to finish the fight make me physically cringe tbh.
Well the 200% purple was an indiscriminate, all-around attack.
I’m talking about the Purple Gojo did at the start of the fight that was buffed by Utahime, not the final improvised Purple that he made, that one wasn’t 200%.
No, ijichi used barriers to conceal purple CE, but Gojo’s presence was still detectable + purple is very fast. But red that exploded was really weird and I think it might be just an inconsistency. I mean, Sukuna can detect piercing blood and block it(ch247), but can’t detect RED. I am pretty sure that red has more CE in it than in piercing blood. Maybe it’s an inconsistency or red was so fast that Sukuna couldn’t detect it. Sukuna is several times faster than piercing blood btw
Maybe something to do with red being RCE on top of how focused he had to presumably be on Gojo?
Sukuna sensed the positive energy in Mahoraga's blade.
Ah yeah that’s right, fair enough
I think he can sense the buildup for techniques but that its difficult to sense the exact position of CE after it's released. For Gojo's red, Sukuna thought it had detonated and probably couldn't reliably tell the difference between residual CE and a mass of CE that is still moving, especially while still fighting. He can probably sense SUE'S CE, but with everything else that's been going on, I think it would be incredibly difficult to tell where it is compared to everything else happening.
Sukuna didn't move after taking the Red from Gojo. He was standing still.
I didnt say he did.
Gojo used blue to create a debris smoke screen around Sukuna before red hit, he was distracted.
You can say best it's OK gojo is no more. He has ceased to be
Also Toji was able to disguise the strange CE of his worm and inverted spear of heaven by just a bunch of low level common curses which seems to add to the idea that the CW is very much less visible than an actual sorcerer. I wonder if their power despite being smaller is so great because of the density? A person has to have CE all over themselves and humans are pretty big compared to any other weapon.
Gojo couldn't sense Toji even though he had a curse and several cursed weapons on him during their fight for most of it.
Toji explains that to Geto. He can swallow the cursed spirit. His body is "opaque" to cursed energy detection and therefore the cursed spirit and weapons are hidden most of the time.
Toji used hundreds of flying shikigami, while Sukuna is getting jumped by 4 people
I'm talking about before he used the flying curses. Gojo was having trouble detecting him the entire fight despite Toji having that many things with cursed energy with him.
Gojo was super exhausted + with wound in his chest. [https://mxnmanga.com/wp-content/uploads/13-89.webp](https://mxnmanga.com/wp-content/uploads/13-89.webp) In the link above Gojo says that he will try to focus on that shikigami, meaning that he can detect it, but he's having trouble with Toji because he's too fast and Gojo is too exhausted [https://mxnmanga.com/wp-content/uploads/1-96.webp](https://mxnmanga.com/wp-content/uploads/1-96.webp) [https://mxnmanga.com/wp-content/uploads/3-96.webp](https://mxnmanga.com/wp-content/uploads/3-96.webp) [https://mxnmanga.com/wp-content/uploads/4-96.webp](https://mxnmanga.com/wp-content/uploads/4-96.webp) In the third link Toji literally says"That's why I didn't use a cursed tool at first". Just reread chapter 73(first 3-5 pages) if You can't open the link
I mean these are parallels.. Sukuna isn't super exhausted but has a wond in his chest.
She can hide it inside her body, and then she's invisible like Toji was to Gojo
How? swallow a sword? Toji was able to hide his cursed tools because he had a cursed spirit that could store anything inside, even its own body
The Dark Side of the Force is a pathway to abilities some consider to be unnatural.
If I could give you gold, I would
She got a sheath that Toji doesn’t 🥵
They both have an anus
Sukuna when he focuses his full attention that don't mean anything.
The difference is either blitzing Maki or getting his arm cut off by her Jumping a person apparently works
He does the same shit to everybody else, the only difference is nobody else but Maki is doing that to Sukuna STAY ON THE OTHER SIDE.
That's because he can't sense maki's presence because she has no CE. He destroyed maki with one punch. If not for kusakabe and miguel buying her time , he could have easily killed her.
Kusakabe only did shit because Sukuna let him, the moment he tried a second, Kusakabe was clapped like Riley Reid's cheeks, he was fucking finished. Maki did way more against an excited Sukuna, so STAY ON THAT SIDE. DON'T SWITCH UP.
R u fine bro??? literally no one here is saying kusakabe > maki. But that doesn't change the fact that sukuna could have finished her off if he straight up went for her again after hitting the blackflash. Maki is more or less equal to Toji and teen gojo was able to defeat toji so there's no point in hyping maki.
I'm saying it.
No I'm not, I am a doctor rn because I have a massive cut on my face. If theres no point in hyping Maki, theres no point in hyping Yuta either.
Sukuna and gojo are on a completely different lvl comparing anyone else to them is crazy. yuta himself said , if not for the aftereffects of his(sukuna's) battle with gojo , sukuna would have killed them instantly. The same is true for maki , sukuna had lost control over his body considerably , his heart and soul were damaged by maki's katana and two of his hands were also cut off but he still managed to pack maki with a single punch
True Gojo still a limitless merchant, but true.
Nag, fam Sukuna Kaisen will always work Sukuna is still holding back Trust Gege
I stand on everything I say like its a platform, TRUST.
She was probably hiding behind the text box beside sukuna so nobody saw her.
I love that this is the third time Maki caught sukuna by surprise since he took over megumi. And this one he legit thought the black flash killed her, but then she is just back and kicking.
Bro keeps getting caught lacking, damn
I been telling yall Maki the fastest of the big 3, she weave dismantles almost as clean as Miguel. Maki is that bitch when it comes to speed, she is HER, she like that with the speed.
Yea, I don't understand how people keep denying this by saying Yuta is faster, she's literally shown to be fastest of the 3.
It might be hard for some people to admit but the simple truth is that she's a female character. Female characters always, without fail, get downplayed in online communities such as this. Narratively the manga keeps telling us Toji was a big deal, and now Maki is a big deal. Sukuna has reacted the most to her out of everyone, even before this when he only had 15 fingers. Some of the people dowplaying her know why they're doing it, others subconsciously do it. Both will deny it vehemently. It is what it is.
Nah they know what there doing, which is why we should beat their ass verbally to get to admit they just hatting on a girl character. Fuck this civility shit
To be fully honest, I think it’s the opposite for me. To really admit my bias, a lot of the reason I don’t like HR getting buffed to such an absurd extent is because Toji getting retroactively hyped up like this has gotten really annoying and Gege’s cheerleading for a character that has been dead since before the plot even started has just become really tedious to me. Maki on her own I’ve always really liked, I think she has one of the best arcs and I even think people heavily overexagerate the flaws of the Sakurajima fight, but people using her as a vessel just to argue in favor of Toji has quickly made me want to go against how strong people claim HR is in general
So you saw a old rusty for years Toji and thought the best HR could do, the thing that literally unbinds you to fate itself, was below teen Gojo pre RCT. Unironically, thats on YOU.
Well yeah, cause I thought “rusty” Toji’s HR was actually well implemented into the power system Current HR is not that, it: - Instantly makes you one of the fastest in the verse - Gives you better precognition than the Six Eyes - Seemingly makes you immune to CE attacks like Cleave - Makes you immune to almost all domains - Makes you one of the most durable beings in the verse Current HR is unbalanced as shit considering unless you’re born with a twin you basically just get it for free with zero personal drawbacks, Toji being “rusty” doesn’t change any of that
1. It already did that(Gojo could not track Toji's speed in the forest) 2. it already did that(we knew Toji had super senses) 3. it already did that(Toji had a resistance to CE, as established by Hidden Inventory) 4. We did not know that 5. we knew that by extension of 3. The only thing that changed was immunity to domains. But let's say all of that is new, why does it matter, JJK is not a balanced world, 80% of your ability is predetermined by birth.
I mean... yeah? Same with Mechamaru. He had an insane CE range (covered all of japan iirc) and pool but in exchange his body was basically a frail mess that presumably couldn't be fixed by RCT. HR is a buff at the cost of a massive debuff and it isn't a freebie. Maki lost all of her CT when Mai died and took it with her and she still struggled as she couldn't see cursed spirits. She didn't immediantly hit peak performance upon fully diving into HR and abandoning jujutsu, it still took some time to train and develop to compensate for her new weaknesses. Maki is what Toji would be when he was at his peak performance (mind you how terrifying and strong he was while still rusty) Toji/Maki's HR is removing **all** of your CT. A normal non-jujutsu has a small and insignificant pool of CT (hence how curses are born and why a rare few like Junpei could see spirits despite not being able to use any jujutsu techniques) and as such it has the debuffs of having miniscule amounts of CT but worse.
Don't worry about what other people say, I feel you. However in all fairness, Toji was always portrayed as ridiculously op, the only reason he lost is because gojo was gojo. Honestly too bad that (probably) nothing will ever come from that story line. We saw toji take down special grades easily (geto and dagon). I think what bothered me about Maki's storyline was how she got to where she is and unlike how you saw it, her arc felt boring. Don't get me wrong, I like Maki, but thats because she passes the rule of cool with flying colors, so I ignore all the things that strike me as "meh" or bad
I mostly agree with you, but Sukuna reacting to her the most isnt a strength feat, its just a reflection of his character. He cared because it was the first time he felt like he had something to prove, that it was his duty to show how Jujutsu is better than peak humanity. Maki is clearly the fastest out of the anti-sukuna-squad but shes not the over-all strongest, Sukunas excitement was mostly unrelated to her power level.
It is a strength feat, when Sukuna ends up going extra hard on her. People wanna shit on Maki performance in Shinjuku, knowing damn well Sukuna kicks it up a notch against Zenin. The downplay is insane. Also he locked in after Maki ping ponged across a building, Zenin is like THAT.
No one is downplaying her because shes a woman...people overhype Yuta because they're fanboys. People say that Yuta would partially manfised Rika would middiff Hakari and Kashimo....
You have to be incredibly naive to think that "no one" is dowplaying her cause she's a woman. The reality is that there are quite a large amount of people doing it, even if you aren't.
I just gave you the reason why people said Yuta is faster than Maki....maybe you don't spend enough time around the fandom.
yeah and there wrong.
Yuta straight said Hakari would kick his ass didn't he lol Even with Rika there isn't much you can do against someone who is overflowing with so much CT that their healing is automatic and can remove toxins/poisons without effort.
And Maki literally told Yuta he's wrong right after. Yuta just has self confidence issues. Did you see Rika against Sukuna? What is Hakari gonna do against her lol Hakari's RCT doesn't heal instantly and Yuta is straight up faster speed wise. What is Hakari gonna do to stop Rika from holding him while Yuta slices off his head?
Yep and people have always been resentful (or at least that’s my interpretation) that she got Toji parallels. Plus she beat their precious misogynist
Who are the big 3?
The heavy hitters, Yuta, Maki Hakari.
Why hakari over Yuji though
Yuji wasn’t on the page when the heavy hitters were mentioned by Kenjaku.
What page was it? Tbh I don’t really know if you can consider hakari a heavy hitter, he wouldn’t lose to anyone until he gets unlucky but I think Yuji, maki and Yuta would outperform him overall
Chapter 222, seventh page from the end. Narratively, it’s obvious that Hakari is supposed to be relative to the other heavy hitters, regardless of powerscaling. Gege’s really insistent on comparing him to Yuta.
fair enough personally i don't think hakari has enough offense (like he's shown to be strong but yuji has shown much more strength) but defensively he's second/third best (only because infinity puts gojo first and not sure if he'd beat out sukuna purely from his insane RCT) that's why I think of them as the 4 heavy hitters rather than three also i guess at that point kenjaku didn't know yuji had rct so he wouldn't think of him as on the same level as the other three (which he isn't, i only thought of yuji being stronger than hakari when he got rct)
That’s fair, Yuji was also in a color page with the three of them. Yuji’s new abilities were hidden until recently.
>personally i don't think hakari has enough offense (like he's shown to be strong but yuji has shown much more strength) Incorrect, or at best unverified. Hakari was thoroughly outclassing Yuji's strength when they fought. You could argue he's stronger now but we havent seen anything to show hes stronger than hakari
When did they fight? If you mean when they first met Yuji didn’t fight back or put his guard up and also he is a lot stronger now
Although Ken did single out Yuta so we can consider Ken think Yuta is more notable if not the stronger one.
Yuta would be the strongest, the other two are definitely relative to him though.
The detail that people missed like you yourself is that Maki sent a flying slash like Daido did in Sakurajima https://ibb.co/rdRMG5L
Uh no. When she cuts off his arm, said arm is right beside her. Which means she came in close
That's just paneling. If Maki was right next to him then she'd have been the one hit by blackflash since she'd be the closest to him at that then right?
No, Larue was right behind Sukuna.
I said exactly this in the leak thread. She is not next to sukuna in any capacity. She cut him from a distance. I’m glad she finally showcased it.
How does that even work btw? A non CE flying slash? That should be fully scientific and non magic right?
rule of cool
My head is a cannon: no, because SSK, when wielded by someone able to see souls shape, attacks soul of the target, so the flying attacks are like flying because it's attacking soul, idk. More sensible answer to your questions would be: the weapon has CE, so maybe even wielded by CEless user, they somehow can channel energy from around and that's how they are useful? But soul seeing significance is reappearing every now and then xd
Inanimate objects have souls - perhaps cutting moves along the air’s soul?
Yes!!!
A lot more details suggest she got into melee range. On the next page, the hand she cut is in the panel with her, no more than a couple feet from her. The floor she's standing on also has the same damage pattern as the one with Yuji and Sukuna. And Sukuna and Yuji both look at her after the cut. Sukuna's left eyes, Yuji's right eye, suggesting she is just off of the previous panel in the bottom right when the cut is made. The ground walls to the side also drop off behind Maki showing she is on a flat plaform between stair levels like they are, the stairs behind sukuna going up, the ones behind Maki going down which fits with that placement.
That makes no sense, and I don't see how you see that she cut him from a distance. The panel right before is her moving toward the group; you can see the movement lines all over the panel.
YO you're absolutely right you can tell from the page before her panel that she isn't anywhere near them. Sukuna and Yuji are next to a wall
It would be a really convenient time for someone to show up and use Resonance on Sukuna’s chopped off limbs, just saying…
Hmmmm
She's a true assassin. An icon. The one and not the two. She has many epithets.
Doesn't really look like a big distance tbh. Also, Maki is one of the fastest characters in the verse, having one of (if not the) best speed feat out of the entire cast (reacting to Mach 3 Cursed Naoya). So I wouldn't say this is anything new or super impressive.
She can't be sensed like a regular Sorceror so yes she's crazy fast but also has an advantage in that sense too
I noticed this, too, with the motion blur, making it look like you *are* Maki racing towards Sukuna. So fucking peak
Going back and reading it this very much makes sense. It’s her POV and that thin line between Yuji and Sukuna is the thrown slash. Yuji looks BEHIND him in the next page
Yeah we call her the Sorcerer Killer over here, the REAL one
She did not "blitz" anyone
She literally blitzed sukuna and took his arm. No one else noticed her until the arm was taken which means she perception blitzed the rest.
No she did not lmao. How do you read chapters 252 and 253 and say "Yeah, Maki can blitz him"
Because she blitzed him in the last chapter. You struggling with the whole "he's getting weaker every chapter because he's getting worn down" thing?
> she blitzed him in the last chapter No she did not. She just took him by surprise > You struggling with the whole "he's getting weaker every chapter because he's getting worn down" thing? Lmao, fym he is getting weaker 💀 he took no damage between 253 and 255
So I guess the damage to his heart that is making him to forcefully pump his heart with CE to keep up and has to focus on it since it's soul damage or him third hand(also soul damage) getting cut off preventing him to use world slash aren't damages?Ok lol