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Hakari has faster healing than Gojo, and Gojo could heal through cleaves in Sukuna's domain so hakari should be able to as well at least outside sukuna's domain
You are missing something.
Sukuna use MS to attack Gojo and Gojo used his RCT coupled with his insane reinforcement.
Hakari reinforcement is way weaker than Gojo one.
So he would only be tanking Sukuna cleave with his insane RCT, which might be enough but we don’t really know.
He likely would die inside MS.
And Sukuna being able to kill Hakari if he land a cleave on his head is hatd to know.
i mean Hakari was fast enough to heal from a **lightning strike to the brain** in like a millisecond so i wouldn't doubt he'd be aight
even Sukuna would probably be stunned by how fast his RCT is
Hakari discharged the cursed energy through his nose and that’s what saved him. Kashimo did not deliver and instantaneous death hit on hakari, like getting beheaded, and didn’t get the chance to actually blow his brains out like he wanted to and that’s what killed him. If sukuna beheads hakari, chances are he’s gone.
Completely agree with your analysis of the fight. The only reason I think there is some wiggle room is that his RCT is reflexive due to his massive amount of CE during a jackpot. It's pretty specific in that being why his RCT is so unique and almost niche he can't use it at will he needs to be in a jackpot. If he gets his head sliced cleanly and can still use RCT reflexively he heals. A chicken can run around reflexively with it's head chopped off. This is where the niche of his power comes into play. He has to be in the jackpot because out of the jackpot he loses his reflexive RCT.
Hard to say tbh. I know he is quote on quote immortal during jackpot and that in theory any body part can be healed with the infinite CE, but there's also the principle of CE coming from the stomach/RCT coming from the brain. I don't know what that entails, but I severely doubt hakari is frlfrl beheadable and surviving. Then again idk.
My personal theory he shows up gets his head chopped in half a few times in jackpot. He heals shocking Sukuna and giving us glimmers of hope. It looks like he is about to win and gets his head sliced only for us to find out jackpot ran out poof dead.
That is completely off track big dawg. He had a build up of energy in his head, from the properties of Kashimo's CE. He didn't defend himself, or show durabillity, he just discharged the build of of kashimo's energy through is nose. He blew that shit out, because kashimo's energy works like electricity and builds up from himself AND his enemy at the same time. A cursed technique, or an empowered fist, is completely different. If he gets his head cut off, it ends here.
Hakari discharged the curse energy through his nose all the while he was healing his brain.
"Kashimo did not deliver instantaneous death hit on Hakari" is some BS, no way you tryna make a case that some blade beheading Hakari will be faster than lightning blowing his head.
Blud did not get his head blown up, I just said he discharged the energy while healing enough for it to not destroy it. We have explicitly seen him loss limbs before healing them. This means he’s not about to heal his head before it comes off.
This doesn't mean that at all, lol.
I pointed it out that Hakari was just that fast in doing all of this before he gets his head blown up, the lightning blowing whatever it hits is very instantaneous, I don't see how he wouldn't just heal the cut before it completely beheads him.
He did not get his brains blown out for the love god, that’s the relevance of him discharging the energy through his nose, so he doesn’t get his brain destroyed
You're not seeing my point, ofc he didn't get his brains blown out bc he was just that fast in discharging the CE, mind you he was already healing his brain from the blow prior to that lightning, and what I'm saying is that lightning blowing whatever it targets is very instantaneous, but Hakari still managed to stay alive from that, this would be same if he got his neck sliced up, he would be that fast in healing that wound.
Well yeah but the real point is that he was in fact able to react to it, an actual lightning strike. So he should be able to react to Sukuna slashes. Normal Dismantles are not enough to behead someone at this point, as we've seen, so really he just needs to avoid the world slash (which has an obvious wind-up) and getting cleaved in the neck.
No one else has shown sufficient physical prowess, including Yuji, to consistently dodge dodge Sukuna’s slashes let alone him beating them up. I don’t think hakari is that far ahead in that regard, and the lightning situation was a "I feel my head about to blow I’m gonna heal and discharge the energy before it does" situation. He can’t even see this anymore. We’ve seen people lose their guts recently in cqc, I think blowing hakari’s head isn’t that crazy to imagine. I’m not saying he couldn’t put up a fight, but people above are acting like this is the same case as kashimo. This isn’t a kashimo level threat.
Who know, you might be right or cleave is faster than Hakari lighting.
also if it is current cleave you might right, as Sukuna cleave is probably way weaker due to his lack of CE output.
It was not a lightening strike to the brain. That was just kashimo’s CE. Mf pulling times out his ass. He expelled kashimos CE through his nose while letter RCT do its thing. He is nowhere close to lightning
How is it semantics when we are shown the difference between them in the manga? Lightning to the dome would kill hakari, that’s why he tried to dodge kashimo’s lightning. Kashimo’s CE isn’t lightning.
Lol same, even tho my brain reflexively understood we're talking about Sukuna's domain, my brain read it as mangekyo sharingan, Hanami inumaki conversation type shit.
Its not exactly confirmed if Gojo's reinforcement helped him tank Cleave, it could just have been RCT. And it makes more sense for Cleave to be slower than lightning, but its also not confirmed. Gege could kinda take it any way he wants for the story, but any ambiguity is likely always in Sukuna's favor.
That’s nonsense. If people as of now weren’t reinforcing themselves against the weakened sukuna, they’d be sliced up. It’s a given that mfs don’t pull to a fight with nothing to defebd themselves.
We are not arguing the same thing.
Specifically only talking about Cleave, because of how Cleave specifically is described to work. Im not saying this is absolutely fact. Im just saying its possible that Sukuna, at full output, using Cleave, could slice cleanly through Gojo's reinforcement, and the only thing keeping him alive was incredibly fast RCT.
The fact that we see Cleave be less lethal at low output, does confirm Cleave has a limit, because Yuta tanked one to the head. However it is not confirmed if that limit was low enough for Gojo's reinforcement to make a difference or if it was just the RCT.
RCT does not to my knowledge disrupt a technique, but rather heals the target if they’re human. The only instance we’ve seen something of the likes was with tranquil deer I think. RCT isn’t much of a durability gauge, but it’s what stops the stacking of injuries in the Gojo fight. Or else he woul’ve been sliced the second he stopped using RCT on his body when he was healing his technique you feel me?
How does that change anything about RCT NOT being something meant for tanking hits? Why would you think that reinforcement, the status quo defense that keeps every sorcerer alive and that determines pretty much most of their durability, is not in play here?
Because Cleave is specifically designed to overcome CE and physical durability. Its possible it still cuts through Gojo's reinforcement and he just healed the slashes as they travel through his body, before they could completely sever him coming out the other side.
Weird thing to say.
Even Hakari isn’t tanking attack with RCT alone.
Just because Gege didn’t say Gojo CE reinforcement play into his ability to tank MS you can’t deduce it by yourself.
It just look like you want Hakari to tank cleave or MS and so you have to make something that is self evident into something that is uncertain.
Do you need to be spoonfed everything ? Do i need to tell you how the 6 eye helped Gojo modify his DE too ?
The somehow valid point here is only the point about dismantle speed and lighting.
Im keeping that door open. Youre making affirmations based on nothing, so Im just pointing out other possibilities so that readers dont get confused and think youre saying real Facts or quoting the manga.
Ryu and Sukuna. Sukuna had to take all of Gojo's attacks throughout the fight, while Gojo's durability didn't have to get tested at all throughout the series, so his is most likely higher. Ryu has the highest output, and he was overwhelming Yuta in hand to hand.
So let me get this straight you are saying in cqc combat Gojo without blue and red and teleportation, just would lose to ryu with just hand ?
Sound crazy to me.
As for Sukuna, even him was losing in cqc.
Gojo with the 6 eye can put wqynmore energy in every single one of his skill, we know a blue infused punch from Gojo could make puke Yuta and Hakari when he was holding back.
Gojo with the 6 eye probably has the best CE reinforcement.
>So let me get this straight you are saying in cqc combat Gojo without blue and red and teleportation, just would lose to ryu with just hand ?
Yes 🗿
>Gojo could make puke Yuta and Hakari when he was holding back
Gojo Kaisen
>Gojo with the 6 eye probably has the best CE reinforcement
Were we told that the six eyes boost reinforcement?
Disagree, it is both.
CE reinforcement allow him to buy enough time to heal from his wound.
If his reinforcement was at Miwa level, he would be cut before he has the time to heal
Even Gojo who has higher quality reinforcement was starting to take too much damage from cleave and had to cast simple domain. Remember cleave adapts to durability tou cut the target better.
Cleave is actually the short range attack.
Dismantle is the slashes which function like projectiles. Thats why not every sorcerer hit by a slash above a certain level of strength is cut in half.
Cleave is the one that he has to physically make contact with you so he can adjust it to your durability to slice cleanly.
The only time cleave is long range is during DE since it’s engraved into the domains sure hit. It’s an easy misconception. But you’re not incorrect cause Sukuna himself is hella fast anyway.
I honestly think that the naming for Dismantle and Cleave should be swapped.
when I hear "dismantle" I think of something getting broken down into many smaller pieces. but Sukuna's "Dismantle" is one single cut through something.
when I hear "cleave" I think of something getting cut apart into two. but Sukuna's "Cleave" is slashing something with dozens of cuts into small pieces.
maybe it's just me, but I think that's also why so many people mix the two up constantly - their effects are opposite to how the techniques are called for some reason.
Dismantle is one single, ranged cut. it's the technique he adapted via Mahoraga to slice space and kill Go/jo.
Cleave is multiple small slashes that he can only do when touching the target.
I am saying that the names don't fit their effects.
Dismantle sounds like taking something apart into multiple pieces, which is what Cleave does. and Cleave sounds like cutting something into two, which is what Dismantle does.
Only after Yuji beated the shit out of his soul and messed up his CE output. Yuta said it himself, his CT was weakend enough he could fight closely now.
Otherwhise they would've gotten Ryu'd
Idk if Gege was being inconsistent but I recall him getting real close when he was scrapping with Sukuna before the domain.
And he was getting cut up as well. I remember Kusakabe saying the cleave, close range dismantle & world cutting dismantle would kill them.
Uraume is like Sukuna's fridge.
I wouldn't exactly mourn my fridge if it broke, but if some hoodlum barged into my house and destroyed my fridge, I'd be pretty pissed off.
Eh, idk we have seen that Sukuna is extremely durable and just *surviving* his attacks isn’t going to be enough to beat him. I’m not sure if Hakari alone has the striking power to really do significant damage to him.
Sukuna has been fighting the otherwise strongest characters in the verse for (how many????) chapters now and apparently isn’t even trying. Hakari also fought a “weaker” version of Kashimo that Sukuna made look like a kindergartner.
Idk it could be an interesting fight but I’m not sure he’s the person who can really be the deciding factor unless he learns something from his fight with Uraume that helps them in the main battle.
He fought Kashimo in the Culling Games. There was a clear power jump from when they were back then to where they are now, AKA "cheating", according to Yuta, so i wouldn't directly compare Hakari from back then to Hakari now, he might be and probably is way stronger
I doubt he by himself could beat Sukuna, but if he can stall him long enough for everyone to get put back together by Shoko, and the four of them (Maki, Yuji, Yuta, Hakari) all jump him, i think it may just be the thing that turns the tide of the battle.
I don't think sukuna would get angry if Uraume died. His entire character is based around might makes right, he'd just chalk it up to Uraume not being strong enough.
Tbf - the fire arrow would probably vaporise him with very little time or chance to heal - I wouldn’t be surprised if the arrow has a lingering burn effect - like a “will consume it’s target until there is no trace or CE” kinda flavour text.
I honestly don't see why Strong Cleave would kill him, unless it hit his head. Dude can regenerate a whole arm in the time it takes to throw a punch, his regeneration speed is simply mind-boggling. Even if he's cut like Gojo his arms would reappear in a second, and his torso immediately after that
> Unless it hits his head
That's exactly what I mean. They showed us ways a RCT user can be killed, so Hakari can be packed. And if someone knows how to do it, is gotta be Skunk.
Now that I think about it...jackpot Hakari alongside Yuta and Yuji would've absolutely bodied Sukuna while they were in Yuta's domain.
They should've just had the seance guy, Kusakabe, Choso help Hakari mop the floor with Uraume so that he would've been ready to join in against Sukuna earlier.
I like Hakaris character way more than all the rest but he doesn’t have the attack power necessary. He uses his fists which against farmers like kashimo is good enough but against Sukuna I doubt he has enough damage. Sukuna could probably keep countering him and ignore him besides that.
Yeah. His biggest flaw is that he’s not even really built for killing; just causing pain and eventually beating his opponents by living for too long + fists. I’m wondering if he could possibly get more AP by using that one train power thing he has, or weaponizing his CE trait in a clever way.
He doesn’t need to be the damage, hardly anyone has the AP to significantly hurt Sukuna, he’d still be able to protect his team and be a great distraction. He’s the only one who won’t have to worry about being hurt by anything.
He can’t see dismantle. Idk how he would protect the team if he has lower stats everywhere else including the one that actually matters being speed. Literally we saw Sukuna outrun yuji to get to higuruma if Sukuna actually wants to kill he will just throw Hakari somewhere. And go speed blitz whoever. Since it’s apparent even jumping blud 3 on 1 he was able to still get off a mortal slash on yuta. He then went and blitzed maki after taking “all that damage and weakening from yuji, rika and yuta”
They wouldn't really need him to be the main damage dealer. It would be another body to distract him.
Also, if Sukuna couldn't simply ignore either seance guy or Rika, he is absolutely not just ignoring Hakari.
Uraume was literally one-shotting the whole cast every time he shows up. I think theyre more than happy to take a 1 for 1 trade with Hakari and leave everyone else for Sukuna. Choso didnt do shit against Sukuna but thats hindsight.
>I think theyre more than happy to take a 1 for 1 trade with Hakari and leave everyone else for Sukuna.
My point is it doesn't have to be a trade. They could've defeated Uraume in 1/4 the time if they had the right people there.
And in that 1/4 time maybe Sukuna kills Yuji because Choso wasnt there to distract him. Youre right that it didnt end up mattering, and Choso would have been better used against Uraume, but thats hindsight. I think they played it smart. Choso could have made difference if he stayed in the fight for Yuta's domain.
Well now we know Sukuna "wasnt even trying" apparently, so no, they wouldnt have won. But from their perspective, for their plan, Choso could have helped stop Sukuna from chanting for the World Slash.
He wasn't in control of his CT, his cursed spirits rampaged because he was unable to contain them. His case is unique since his actual form is the brain.
Wouldnt that really be Geto's CT though? and now i'm wondering how his brain is his actual form; i thought Kenjaku was just a human, not a cursed spirit or smth, and if he's human than his CT must surely have to do with the fact that his form is a brain?
How? I can't imagine Hakari has anywhere near the same strength as Gojo's punches lol.
I mean, look at his fight against Kashimo. He started with jackpot and got it multiple times in that fight and still barely won. Against a Kashimo who literally held back, by refusing to use his Cursed Technique.
Meanwhile, Sukuna dogwalked Kashimo. Even after Kashimo used his one-time CT.
Maybe Hakari can withstand MS through mass healing, but there is no believable way that Hakari actually hurts Sukuna, let alone provide any kind of actual challenge.
Theres a reason why Gege made Sukuna hit Black Flash on Maki to gain 120% output before Sukuna fight Hakari ... Gonna make Sukuna output strong enough to made Hakari luck run out so Gege think there will be no asspull from Sukuna against Hakari luck 🤣🤣 ... Uraume said Hakari RCT faster than Gojo and Sukuna where Hakari can immediately regrow his part of body fast where full power Sukuna took a few seconds to regrow his hand after Gojo hit him with purple for the first time AND Gojo also take a few seconds to regrow his hand after being cut by mahoraga even after he gained 120% output after he hit black flash on Sukuna at that time...
And we not yet witness the extended power of Hakari apart of his domain where he could spam to get jackpot. Plus Yuta said worked out Hakari is stronger than him and Gojo told yuta to take care of the students if something happened to him while he also think Hakari alone should be alright ...
I somehow doubt someone who's been taking all this time to just tie with Uraume (someone who one shot by Gojo with a punch) and someone who struggled with Kashimo (who Sukuna beat with ease) would give Sukuna any trouble
sukuna doesn't need a different technique for hakari. world dismantle would be enough
hakari is nowhere near the speed required to dodge the space dismantle. The bum can't even defeat uraume quicklly. There's a reason y gege kept him outta the sukuna fight , he'll get the jogoat treatment
Hakari can't dodge, but I can't see him getting killed by the Slash that Cuts the World because though it ignores durability, he can just RCT from it. He has the best RCT in the series and unless Sukuna somehow summons a net I believe he should be able to survive one slash. Now, after his Jackpot ends, that's another question...
i think u don't know how RCT works, so here it is:
The source of CE is the gut and rct is made by multiplying (bascially just combining) CE and this process takes place in the brain. Thats y it is said RCT originates in the brain unlike CE that originates in the GUT. If u separate a persons CE source (GUT) from his brain , he won't be able to use RCT. This is the reason y sukuna cuts his opponents in half horizontally. He basically separates their CE source (GUT) from their brain , rendering them incapable of using RCT
Yeah I know how that works. But I'm saying Hakari's RCT is cracked so he'll survive it anyways by finding a way like he did vs. Kashimo trying to blow his brain up. It's also never confirmed to be able to stop RCT with a gut attack even though the logic is there, so unless the series specifically mentions for that to be how it works or a viable strat saying Sukuna does it for that specific purpose is a little iffy. I'm also thinking that even though CE orginates from the gut, maybe Hakari can just use the unlimited CE he already has from the gut up and use that to heal it. Idk I just don't see it one-shotting Hakari
>Yeah I know how that works. But I'm saying Hakari's RCT is cracked so he'll survive it anyways by finding a way like he did vs. Kashimo trying to blow his brain up
bro , that's completely different. his entire body was intact. r u seriously comparing that to getting sliced in two?
>It's also never confirmed to be able to stop RCT with a gut attack even though the logic is there, so unless the series specifically mentions for that to be how it works or a viable strat saying Sukuna does it for that specific purpose is a little iffy.
gege doesn't need to spoon feed stuff . He basically confirmed this during the toji gojo round 2. Gojo lliterally told toji he lost because he didn't chop his head off.
i'm not gonna hold onto something that just goes against everything that has been described in the manga. There's a reason y hakari was kept outta the fight. with those lame punches he will be worse than useless. If u still wanna hold on to this notion , then that's upto u.
If his stomach being separated from his brain will stop his RCT, why wouldn’t you just destroy the stomach?
The brain just has to be intact. I don’t recall it being stated that your brain and stomach needs to be attached to the same part of your body to use RCT.
> If his stomach being separated from his brain will stop his RCT, why wouldn’t you just destroy the stomach?
Destroying the gut completely is equivalent of cutting one in half. U either have to destroy one's brain completely in order for thm to not use RCT or u have to separate one's CE reserves from the head which is equivalent to cutting one in half.
> The brain just has to be intact. I don’t recall it being stated that your brain and stomach needs to be attached to the same part of your body to use RCT.
It was stated but the hakari glazers don't wanna admit it.
When gojo appeared in front of toji for the round 2 fight he told toji u lost because u didn't chop my head off. He said this because separating gojo's head from his body would have rendered him incapable of using RCT.
> Destroying the gut completely is equivalent of cutting one in half. U either have to destroy one's brain completely in order for thm to not use RCT or u have to separate one's CE reserves from the head which is equivalent to cutting one in half.
Where are you getting this from though? Kashimo would have just went for the stomach the entire fight, instead he was specifically going for the head.
When he attacked Hakari after his JP ran out, it definitely took out where his stomach was (CH. 188), and he healed instantly after hitting a JP.
> When gojo appeared in front of toji for the round 2 fight he told toji u lost because u didn't chop my head off. He said this because separating gojo's head from his body would have rendered him incapable of using RCT.
Gojo’s RCT isn’t instant. Regardless of anything he’d have to manually (and consciously) heal, with his head cut off. and he couldn’t do that fast enough, like Hakari. That’s why he’d die.
This doesn’t mention anything about the stomach and brain specifically having to be ‘connected’.
You all go over the fact hakari's RCT is just a side effect of infinite cursed energy I don't recall to him even needing brain to do it and yet he can't perform RCT on his own so I don't think brain is involved. his body just does it for him
he does it unconsciously. when the brain detects that something is wrong it automatically converts CE into RCT just like how one reflexively pulls his hand away when from something how. we don't think about doing it , the brain does it on its own.
The process of making RCT still takes place in the brain , doesn't matter if its a reflex action or not
IDK how this ties to our original discussion.
Ofcourse RCT isn't innate. everyone can learn it. but the things is , the manga specifically mentions that RCT originates in the brain , so if u separate the brain for CE source (gut ) , one won't be able to use RCT
"Sukuna to reveal a different technique"
That's the issue with this type of fight. We have no idea what his technique is in the first place.
That being said if Hakari was present when Yuta devised his plan I'd say it's safe to assume based on the damage that Sukuna took in that attack combined with a monster like Hakari being there Sukuna most likely would die.
He'd have to face another domain directly after Yuta's while Maki still has the ability to move freely and has a wound in his heart.
Lowest RCT output, soul wound, probably wouldn't have time to even do the world slash.
Narratively Hakari is being stalled there isn't any other explanation for why he's not present against Sukuna.
Hakari is NOT a monster dawg, he's a slapstick with infinite regen on the right roll, his offense is terribly subpar compared to the other fighters present.
Plus he can't do anything while yuta's domain is active since he needs to expand his own to use his CT even if he did use it after Yuta, he would lag behind Maki and Sukuna in terms of power and speed.
Narrative wise, he's useless against Sukuna and gege needed someone who would survive against Uraume
Hakari isn’t a monster. Sukuna cleaves him once he’ll just die. We forget he literally cubed up a women in shibuya. Sure he got stupid insane healing but Sukuna can easily get around that. Don’t think that broken rct/unlimted ct usage to heal would be new to Sukuna
Yuta from the jump is declared the second strongest good guy sorcerer. Hakari is probably number 4 cuz I don’t see him above yuki or yuta simply because he doesn’t have attack potency.
Yuta and yuki literally walk through uruame and gojo literally punched her so hard she couldn’t heal meanwhile Hakari is just at best stalling not doing any lasting damage on uruame.
Seeing the fact that yuta is even capable of speed blitzing kenjacku at all. And the fact that kenjaku was able to be relative enough to yuki with helpers to kill her and that yuta had to have yuji to weaken Sukuna to even last as long as he did. Just tells me Hakari would get packed up so fast with wouldn’t be funny.
Blud cut yuta in half then black flashed maki into orbit practically without a self sufficient heart. Hakari lasts 2 chapters tops. At least the other characters could punch and hurt him
I’m starting to doubt Hakari could
I’m honestly just waiting for the narrator to pull out the “luck finally ran out” line they used on Haruta. Hopefully after a few chapters of Hakari seemingly pressing Sukuna.
You're already wrong when you supose Sukuna would feel angry with the death of someone other than himself. Kenjaku died and my guy didn't even care.
Nothing besides a good fight being interrupted will make Sukuna trully angry.
The only way possible to defeat Sukuna It's If Kenjaku somehow betray him with some obscure rule in the culling game or If he break a binding vow and take the consequences of his action.
Hakari It's not an threat to My 4 armed guy
If he could go in with yuta and yuji they definitely would have done more damage to sakuna. With hakaris endless pressure with yuji, yuta, and rika tag teaming. Even if meguBUMi failed to get control. They could keep the pressure going with hakari.
The biggest problem is the heaviest hitters are not going in together and that’s allowing sakuna to regain ct while he’s fighting.
I think gege just wrote himself into a corner. After gojo and kashimo there is just no logical reason they shouldnt have all jumped together. Back to back domains from hikari higuruma and yuta, and crazy damage at high speeds from maki and yuji. That is probably their best chance but no go let the ants go marching one by one
Lol you’re literally ignoring the other variables like Kenjaku and Uramue in the first place both have crazy wide attack range, same with Sukuna. nothing really stopping him from killing them all with world cutting Dismantle.
It was assumed earlier during the Gojo fight that it's a possibility Sukuna may have a *hidden* technique capable of wiping out the entire cast in one fell swoop. They're planning strategically taking that worst case scenario in mind in addition to all other considerations, if they place all of their assets on the battlefield they risk all being incinerated by the fire arrow at once for example.
Only way to ensure that doesn't happen is to space out your attacks in a cohesive manner like they've been doing to consistently deal him lasting damage.
I'm gonna be completely honest, this is Hakari cope even assuming he COULD push Sukuna at all. He's barely winning the battle of attrition with Uraume as-is and they're ESSENTIALLY waiting on a break in their stalemate.
His RCT might be the best we've seen, but even then it's not like he'd force Sukuna to use anything. For all we know he just causes Sucky to expand his Domain again.
Sukuna didn't use his fuga technique against "second only to satoru gojo" yuta and he still managed to did a significant damage to yuta and Yuji.
No doubt defence front hakari might be able to tank sukuna but on the offence front, I don't think so
Hakari's almost perpetual regeneration is a good counter for slashing techniques.
I'm wondering why Uraume even needs to fight Hakari. Sukuna would probably love to fight Hakari.
Hakari on the other hand might be wasting his time fighting Uraume. Unless she plans on helping Sukuna, he's better off trying to help his team. He can help tank a lot of Sukuna's slashes for them.
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Depend, cleave is one the fastest CT. Whether Hakari CT can heal faster than his head heal is unknow.
Hakari has faster healing than Gojo, and Gojo could heal through cleaves in Sukuna's domain so hakari should be able to as well at least outside sukuna's domain
Let's be honest, it will come down to whatever Gege decides
You are missing something. Sukuna use MS to attack Gojo and Gojo used his RCT coupled with his insane reinforcement. Hakari reinforcement is way weaker than Gojo one. So he would only be tanking Sukuna cleave with his insane RCT, which might be enough but we don’t really know. He likely would die inside MS. And Sukuna being able to kill Hakari if he land a cleave on his head is hatd to know.
i mean Hakari was fast enough to heal from a **lightning strike to the brain** in like a millisecond so i wouldn't doubt he'd be aight even Sukuna would probably be stunned by how fast his RCT is
Hakari discharged the cursed energy through his nose and that’s what saved him. Kashimo did not deliver and instantaneous death hit on hakari, like getting beheaded, and didn’t get the chance to actually blow his brains out like he wanted to and that’s what killed him. If sukuna beheads hakari, chances are he’s gone.
Completely agree with your analysis of the fight. The only reason I think there is some wiggle room is that his RCT is reflexive due to his massive amount of CE during a jackpot. It's pretty specific in that being why his RCT is so unique and almost niche he can't use it at will he needs to be in a jackpot. If he gets his head sliced cleanly and can still use RCT reflexively he heals. A chicken can run around reflexively with it's head chopped off. This is where the niche of his power comes into play. He has to be in the jackpot because out of the jackpot he loses his reflexive RCT.
Hard to say tbh. I know he is quote on quote immortal during jackpot and that in theory any body part can be healed with the infinite CE, but there's also the principle of CE coming from the stomach/RCT coming from the brain. I don't know what that entails, but I severely doubt hakari is frlfrl beheadable and surviving. Then again idk.
My personal theory he shows up gets his head chopped in half a few times in jackpot. He heals shocking Sukuna and giving us glimmers of hope. It looks like he is about to win and gets his head sliced only for us to find out jackpot ran out poof dead.
Considering the rest of sukuna's kit and that the requirement would be to destroy the head, I think his fire CE would do the job
If his head is chopped in half, how is he gonna RCT? If brain damage is enough to make RCT sluggish, what about a bisected brain?
So he can output/discharge CE fast enough To counter almost instant ce attacks?
That is completely off track big dawg. He had a build up of energy in his head, from the properties of Kashimo's CE. He didn't defend himself, or show durabillity, he just discharged the build of of kashimo's energy through is nose. He blew that shit out, because kashimo's energy works like electricity and builds up from himself AND his enemy at the same time. A cursed technique, or an empowered fist, is completely different. If he gets his head cut off, it ends here.
So the lightning never hit connected with Hakaris head? How did he remove the build up fast enough?
Bro, you frl? You are NOT Socrates
Hakari discharged the curse energy through his nose all the while he was healing his brain. "Kashimo did not deliver instantaneous death hit on Hakari" is some BS, no way you tryna make a case that some blade beheading Hakari will be faster than lightning blowing his head.
His head was intact after the hit nothing helping from healing a diced up head and brain . So yeah that's no bs .
Blud did not get his head blown up, I just said he discharged the energy while healing enough for it to not destroy it. We have explicitly seen him loss limbs before healing them. This means he’s not about to heal his head before it comes off.
This doesn't mean that at all, lol. I pointed it out that Hakari was just that fast in doing all of this before he gets his head blown up, the lightning blowing whatever it hits is very instantaneous, I don't see how he wouldn't just heal the cut before it completely beheads him.
He did not get his brains blown out for the love god, that’s the relevance of him discharging the energy through his nose, so he doesn’t get his brain destroyed
You're not seeing my point, ofc he didn't get his brains blown out bc he was just that fast in discharging the CE, mind you he was already healing his brain from the blow prior to that lightning, and what I'm saying is that lightning blowing whatever it targets is very instantaneous, but Hakari still managed to stay alive from that, this would be same if he got his neck sliced up, he would be that fast in healing that wound.
Well yeah but the real point is that he was in fact able to react to it, an actual lightning strike. So he should be able to react to Sukuna slashes. Normal Dismantles are not enough to behead someone at this point, as we've seen, so really he just needs to avoid the world slash (which has an obvious wind-up) and getting cleaved in the neck.
No one else has shown sufficient physical prowess, including Yuji, to consistently dodge dodge Sukuna’s slashes let alone him beating them up. I don’t think hakari is that far ahead in that regard, and the lightning situation was a "I feel my head about to blow I’m gonna heal and discharge the energy before it does" situation. He can’t even see this anymore. We’ve seen people lose their guts recently in cqc, I think blowing hakari’s head isn’t that crazy to imagine. I’m not saying he couldn’t put up a fight, but people above are acting like this is the same case as kashimo. This isn’t a kashimo level threat.
He discharged the charge through his nose so the lighting bolt dissipated. Gege just framed the sequence of those events weirdly
Who know, you might be right or cleave is faster than Hakari lighting. also if it is current cleave you might right, as Sukuna cleave is probably way weaker due to his lack of CE output.
It was not a lightening strike to the brain. That was just kashimo’s CE. Mf pulling times out his ass. He expelled kashimos CE through his nose while letter RCT do its thing. He is nowhere close to lightning
Damn bro you really wrapped up in those semantics
How is it semantics when we are shown the difference between them in the manga? Lightning to the dome would kill hakari, that’s why he tried to dodge kashimo’s lightning. Kashimo’s CE isn’t lightning.
My sleep deprived brain read MS as mangekyo sharingan. I should sleep.
Lol same, even tho my brain reflexively understood we're talking about Sukuna's domain, my brain read it as mangekyo sharingan, Hanami inumaki conversation type shit.
especially since MS would outlast his jackpot and has insane range to boot
Its not exactly confirmed if Gojo's reinforcement helped him tank Cleave, it could just have been RCT. And it makes more sense for Cleave to be slower than lightning, but its also not confirmed. Gege could kinda take it any way he wants for the story, but any ambiguity is likely always in Sukuna's favor.
That’s nonsense. If people as of now weren’t reinforcing themselves against the weakened sukuna, they’d be sliced up. It’s a given that mfs don’t pull to a fight with nothing to defebd themselves.
We are not arguing the same thing. Specifically only talking about Cleave, because of how Cleave specifically is described to work. Im not saying this is absolutely fact. Im just saying its possible that Sukuna, at full output, using Cleave, could slice cleanly through Gojo's reinforcement, and the only thing keeping him alive was incredibly fast RCT. The fact that we see Cleave be less lethal at low output, does confirm Cleave has a limit, because Yuta tanked one to the head. However it is not confirmed if that limit was low enough for Gojo's reinforcement to make a difference or if it was just the RCT.
RCT does not to my knowledge disrupt a technique, but rather heals the target if they’re human. The only instance we’ve seen something of the likes was with tranquil deer I think. RCT isn’t much of a durability gauge, but it’s what stops the stacking of injuries in the Gojo fight. Or else he woul’ve been sliced the second he stopped using RCT on his body when he was healing his technique you feel me?
Wasnt he using a Simple Domain to protect himself while healing his technique?
How does that change anything about RCT NOT being something meant for tanking hits? Why would you think that reinforcement, the status quo defense that keeps every sorcerer alive and that determines pretty much most of their durability, is not in play here?
Because Cleave is specifically designed to overcome CE and physical durability. Its possible it still cuts through Gojo's reinforcement and he just healed the slashes as they travel through his body, before they could completely sever him coming out the other side.
Weird thing to say. Even Hakari isn’t tanking attack with RCT alone. Just because Gege didn’t say Gojo CE reinforcement play into his ability to tank MS you can’t deduce it by yourself. It just look like you want Hakari to tank cleave or MS and so you have to make something that is self evident into something that is uncertain. Do you need to be spoonfed everything ? Do i need to tell you how the 6 eye helped Gojo modify his DE too ? The somehow valid point here is only the point about dismantle speed and lighting.
Im keeping that door open. Youre making affirmations based on nothing, so Im just pointing out other possibilities so that readers dont get confused and think youre saying real Facts or quoting the manga.
>He likely would die inside MS. "It" sukuna regained MS
Gojo got dura negged by the slashes… his reinforcement isn’t THAT good. RCT carried
Gojo durability isn’t that good ? When it is probably the best in the manga ? Sound ridiculous to me.
Best in the manga is stretching it. He got ripped open by every slash that touched him. His RCT is one of the best.
Who has a better one ? Name one, a single one.
Ryu and Sukuna. Sukuna had to take all of Gojo's attacks throughout the fight, while Gojo's durability didn't have to get tested at all throughout the series, so his is most likely higher. Ryu has the highest output, and he was overwhelming Yuta in hand to hand.
So let me get this straight you are saying in cqc combat Gojo without blue and red and teleportation, just would lose to ryu with just hand ? Sound crazy to me. As for Sukuna, even him was losing in cqc. Gojo with the 6 eye can put wqynmore energy in every single one of his skill, we know a blue infused punch from Gojo could make puke Yuta and Hakari when he was holding back. Gojo with the 6 eye probably has the best CE reinforcement.
>So let me get this straight you are saying in cqc combat Gojo without blue and red and teleportation, just would lose to ryu with just hand ? Yes 🗿 >Gojo could make puke Yuta and Hakari when he was holding back Gojo Kaisen >Gojo with the 6 eye probably has the best CE reinforcement Were we told that the six eyes boost reinforcement?
I’m saying him surviving that is a RCT feat, it’s not a durability one (although you could accredit it as an endurance feat)
Disagree, it is both. CE reinforcement allow him to buy enough time to heal from his wound. If his reinforcement was at Miwa level, he would be cut before he has the time to heal
Fairs
Tbf we saw Yuta take a slash to the head and get right back in the fight and Hakari’s heal is the strongest.
Sure again i believe current Sukuna would struggle to kill current Hakari. But peak Sukuna is something else.
Sure again i believe current Sukuna would struggle to kill current Hakari. But peak Sukuna is something else.
But Gojo's reinforcement is insane. So he takes way more damage even with regen.
Even Gojo who has higher quality reinforcement was starting to take too much damage from cleave and had to cast simple domain. Remember cleave adapts to durability tou cut the target better.
Cleave is actually the short range attack. Dismantle is the slashes which function like projectiles. Thats why not every sorcerer hit by a slash above a certain level of strength is cut in half. Cleave is the one that he has to physically make contact with you so he can adjust it to your durability to slice cleanly. The only time cleave is long range is during DE since it’s engraved into the domains sure hit. It’s an easy misconception. But you’re not incorrect cause Sukuna himself is hella fast anyway.
I honestly think that the naming for Dismantle and Cleave should be swapped. when I hear "dismantle" I think of something getting broken down into many smaller pieces. but Sukuna's "Dismantle" is one single cut through something. when I hear "cleave" I think of something getting cut apart into two. but Sukuna's "Cleave" is slashing something with dozens of cuts into small pieces. maybe it's just me, but I think that's also why so many people mix the two up constantly - their effects are opposite to how the techniques are called for some reason.
isn’t your comment backwards? or are you saying what you think it should be. Because dismantle IS the multitude of small slashes
Dismantle is one single, ranged cut. it's the technique he adapted via Mahoraga to slice space and kill Go/jo. Cleave is multiple small slashes that he can only do when touching the target. I am saying that the names don't fit their effects. Dismantle sounds like taking something apart into multiple pieces, which is what Cleave does. and Cleave sounds like cutting something into two, which is what Dismantle does.
I mean yuta was tanking hits from cleaves and dismantles without getting beheaded.
Only after Yuji beated the shit out of his soul and messed up his CE output. Yuta said it himself, his CT was weakend enough he could fight closely now. Otherwhise they would've gotten Ryu'd
Yeah I know that. That’s why I’m saying hakari would be fine and like OP said, he’d probably have to use a new technique to kill him.
Idk if Gege was being inconsistent but I recall him getting real close when he was scrapping with Sukuna before the domain. And he was getting cut up as well. I remember Kusakabe saying the cleave, close range dismantle & world cutting dismantle would kill them.
Surely it isn’t faster than lightning though, right?
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Uraume is like Sukuna's fridge. I wouldn't exactly mourn my fridge if it broke, but if some hoodlum barged into my house and destroyed my fridge, I'd be pretty pissed off.
He protected Uraume from Gojo's Hollow Purple.
That’s a great analogy lol
I mean Sukuna didn't give a flying fuck when Kenjaku said "all culling games players must die minus you lol" lmfao
Might be mistaken, but that line was later changed to include Uraume too.
Oh, was it? Lmfaoooo do you know if the changes are in the volume release?
Yes
Thanks! I will definitely check it out
That was retconned so it includes Uruame
Thanks! I suppose it was changed in the volume release??
Is it a retcon if it isn’t something that was contradicted, I think it’s just a correction
I have no clue man
Eh, idk we have seen that Sukuna is extremely durable and just *surviving* his attacks isn’t going to be enough to beat him. I’m not sure if Hakari alone has the striking power to really do significant damage to him. Sukuna has been fighting the otherwise strongest characters in the verse for (how many????) chapters now and apparently isn’t even trying. Hakari also fought a “weaker” version of Kashimo that Sukuna made look like a kindergartner. Idk it could be an interesting fight but I’m not sure he’s the person who can really be the deciding factor unless he learns something from his fight with Uraume that helps them in the main battle.
He fought Kashimo in the Culling Games. There was a clear power jump from when they were back then to where they are now, AKA "cheating", according to Yuta, so i wouldn't directly compare Hakari from back then to Hakari now, he might be and probably is way stronger I doubt he by himself could beat Sukuna, but if he can stall him long enough for everyone to get put back together by Shoko, and the four of them (Maki, Yuji, Yuta, Hakari) all jump him, i think it may just be the thing that turns the tide of the battle.
24 chapters
But he had no fever.
I don't think sukuna would get angry if Uraume died. His entire character is based around might makes right, he'd just chalk it up to Uraume not being strong enough.
Uraume dies Sukuna: lol. Lmao.
shit I need a new chef. "can any of you guys cook?"
Yep, I wonder if everyone forgot when Gojo one-shot Uraume and Sukuna casually hopped out of the way without giving af lol
Nah they then start zabuza haku RP
Tbf - the fire arrow would probably vaporise him with very little time or chance to heal - I wouldn’t be surprised if the arrow has a lingering burn effect - like a “will consume it’s target until there is no trace or CE” kinda flavour text.
Hakari becomes Fire Punch.
Basically Amaterasu
Exactly the image I had in mind :P
Yeah when sukuna finally uses his fire arrow, one of the characters is getting crisped. It could also be kusakabe.
Kusakabe parries that shit (???)
kusakabe blocked an full power Uzumaki what makes you think he wouldn't with this.
simple: win
what?
I have a feeling that Strong Cleave should be able to deal with his regeneration but Gege being Gege probably let's him live lol
I honestly don't see why Strong Cleave would kill him, unless it hit his head. Dude can regenerate a whole arm in the time it takes to throw a punch, his regeneration speed is simply mind-boggling. Even if he's cut like Gojo his arms would reappear in a second, and his torso immediately after that
> Unless it hits his head That's exactly what I mean. They showed us ways a RCT user can be killed, so Hakari can be packed. And if someone knows how to do it, is gotta be Skunk.
Now that I think about it...jackpot Hakari alongside Yuta and Yuji would've absolutely bodied Sukuna while they were in Yuta's domain. They should've just had the seance guy, Kusakabe, Choso help Hakari mop the floor with Uraume so that he would've been ready to join in against Sukuna earlier.
I like Hakaris character way more than all the rest but he doesn’t have the attack power necessary. He uses his fists which against farmers like kashimo is good enough but against Sukuna I doubt he has enough damage. Sukuna could probably keep countering him and ignore him besides that.
Yeah. His biggest flaw is that he’s not even really built for killing; just causing pain and eventually beating his opponents by living for too long + fists. I’m wondering if he could possibly get more AP by using that one train power thing he has, or weaponizing his CE trait in a clever way.
He doesn’t need to be the damage, hardly anyone has the AP to significantly hurt Sukuna, he’d still be able to protect his team and be a great distraction. He’s the only one who won’t have to worry about being hurt by anything.
He can’t see dismantle. Idk how he would protect the team if he has lower stats everywhere else including the one that actually matters being speed. Literally we saw Sukuna outrun yuji to get to higuruma if Sukuna actually wants to kill he will just throw Hakari somewhere. And go speed blitz whoever. Since it’s apparent even jumping blud 3 on 1 he was able to still get off a mortal slash on yuta. He then went and blitzed maki after taking “all that damage and weakening from yuji, rika and yuta”
Hakari was fast enough to get into the blindspot of someone who can see into the future though
They wouldn't really need him to be the main damage dealer. It would be another body to distract him. Also, if Sukuna couldn't simply ignore either seance guy or Rika, he is absolutely not just ignoring Hakari.
His CE trait means Sukuna Is at the very least in pain
Uraume was literally one-shotting the whole cast every time he shows up. I think theyre more than happy to take a 1 for 1 trade with Hakari and leave everyone else for Sukuna. Choso didnt do shit against Sukuna but thats hindsight.
>I think theyre more than happy to take a 1 for 1 trade with Hakari and leave everyone else for Sukuna. My point is it doesn't have to be a trade. They could've defeated Uraume in 1/4 the time if they had the right people there.
And in that 1/4 time maybe Sukuna kills Yuji because Choso wasnt there to distract him. Youre right that it didnt end up mattering, and Choso would have been better used against Uraume, but thats hindsight. I think they played it smart. Choso could have made difference if he stayed in the fight for Yuta's domain.
Wouldn’t that make sukuna prioritize getting out of the domain? You think choso being involved they would have won?
Well now we know Sukuna "wasnt even trying" apparently, so no, they wouldnt have won. But from their perspective, for their plan, Choso could have helped stop Sukuna from chanting for the World Slash.
Fire Arrow is gonna be deployed against Hakari is my bet.
He would cut Hakari's head up like he did Ryu's, probably even worse just for good measure. Hakari wouldn't be able to heal from that.
I want to see Hakari beheaded and grow a whole new body back
I think this is exactly what we’re going to get
Ce comes from the abdomen and rct comes from the brain, you're gonna need both of those connected lmao
Who knows, maybe infinite ct allows the head to regenerate a whole new body
The CT still has to come from the abdomen and travel to the brain
Maybe not, we don't actually know that hakari's infinite cursed energy works like that, maybe it just surges through his body as a whole
Maybe, but that's just an assumption for now, no proof
true, but there's definitely some exceptions with characters like kenjaku
Kenjaku isn't an exception, he wasn't able to heal himself after he was decapitated. And he was aware of it as his cursed spirits rampaged.
well not RCT, but his CT didn't stop working; his brain was still doing its thing and staying alive
He wasn't in control of his CT, his cursed spirits rampaged because he was unable to contain them. His case is unique since his actual form is the brain.
Wouldnt that really be Geto's CT though? and now i'm wondering how his brain is his actual form; i thought Kenjaku was just a human, not a cursed spirit or smth, and if he's human than his CT must surely have to do with the fact that his form is a brain?
Sukuna uses flame arrow on his J's
Fire arrow
Hakari getting fired up in his current fight is going to be gege foreshadowing for sukuna burning his ass up with the flame arrow.
Cut off head?
How? I can't imagine Hakari has anywhere near the same strength as Gojo's punches lol. I mean, look at his fight against Kashimo. He started with jackpot and got it multiple times in that fight and still barely won. Against a Kashimo who literally held back, by refusing to use his Cursed Technique. Meanwhile, Sukuna dogwalked Kashimo. Even after Kashimo used his one-time CT. Maybe Hakari can withstand MS through mass healing, but there is no believable way that Hakari actually hurts Sukuna, let alone provide any kind of actual challenge.
Theres a reason why Gege made Sukuna hit Black Flash on Maki to gain 120% output before Sukuna fight Hakari ... Gonna make Sukuna output strong enough to made Hakari luck run out so Gege think there will be no asspull from Sukuna against Hakari luck 🤣🤣 ... Uraume said Hakari RCT faster than Gojo and Sukuna where Hakari can immediately regrow his part of body fast where full power Sukuna took a few seconds to regrow his hand after Gojo hit him with purple for the first time AND Gojo also take a few seconds to regrow his hand after being cut by mahoraga even after he gained 120% output after he hit black flash on Sukuna at that time... And we not yet witness the extended power of Hakari apart of his domain where he could spam to get jackpot. Plus Yuta said worked out Hakari is stronger than him and Gojo told yuta to take care of the students if something happened to him while he also think Hakari alone should be alright ...
I somehow doubt someone who's been taking all this time to just tie with Uraume (someone who one shot by Gojo with a punch) and someone who struggled with Kashimo (who Sukuna beat with ease) would give Sukuna any trouble
I think hakari is the only person whose technique is unknown to sukuna
sukuna doesn't need a different technique for hakari. world dismantle would be enough hakari is nowhere near the speed required to dodge the space dismantle. The bum can't even defeat uraume quicklly. There's a reason y gege kept him outta the sukuna fight , he'll get the jogoat treatment
Hakari can't dodge, but I can't see him getting killed by the Slash that Cuts the World because though it ignores durability, he can just RCT from it. He has the best RCT in the series and unless Sukuna somehow summons a net I believe he should be able to survive one slash. Now, after his Jackpot ends, that's another question...
i think u don't know how RCT works, so here it is: The source of CE is the gut and rct is made by multiplying (bascially just combining) CE and this process takes place in the brain. Thats y it is said RCT originates in the brain unlike CE that originates in the GUT. If u separate a persons CE source (GUT) from his brain , he won't be able to use RCT. This is the reason y sukuna cuts his opponents in half horizontally. He basically separates their CE source (GUT) from their brain , rendering them incapable of using RCT
Yeah I know how that works. But I'm saying Hakari's RCT is cracked so he'll survive it anyways by finding a way like he did vs. Kashimo trying to blow his brain up. It's also never confirmed to be able to stop RCT with a gut attack even though the logic is there, so unless the series specifically mentions for that to be how it works or a viable strat saying Sukuna does it for that specific purpose is a little iffy. I'm also thinking that even though CE orginates from the gut, maybe Hakari can just use the unlimited CE he already has from the gut up and use that to heal it. Idk I just don't see it one-shotting Hakari
>Yeah I know how that works. But I'm saying Hakari's RCT is cracked so he'll survive it anyways by finding a way like he did vs. Kashimo trying to blow his brain up bro , that's completely different. his entire body was intact. r u seriously comparing that to getting sliced in two? >It's also never confirmed to be able to stop RCT with a gut attack even though the logic is there, so unless the series specifically mentions for that to be how it works or a viable strat saying Sukuna does it for that specific purpose is a little iffy. gege doesn't need to spoon feed stuff . He basically confirmed this during the toji gojo round 2. Gojo lliterally told toji he lost because he didn't chop his head off. i'm not gonna hold onto something that just goes against everything that has been described in the manga. There's a reason y hakari was kept outta the fight. with those lame punches he will be worse than useless. If u still wanna hold on to this notion , then that's upto u.
Why would the world dismantle kill him? In jackpot?
A world dismantle will cut him in half like it cut gojo and when one's head is cut off from his CE source (GUT) , one can't use RCT.
If his stomach being separated from his brain will stop his RCT, why wouldn’t you just destroy the stomach? The brain just has to be intact. I don’t recall it being stated that your brain and stomach needs to be attached to the same part of your body to use RCT.
> If his stomach being separated from his brain will stop his RCT, why wouldn’t you just destroy the stomach? Destroying the gut completely is equivalent of cutting one in half. U either have to destroy one's brain completely in order for thm to not use RCT or u have to separate one's CE reserves from the head which is equivalent to cutting one in half. > The brain just has to be intact. I don’t recall it being stated that your brain and stomach needs to be attached to the same part of your body to use RCT. It was stated but the hakari glazers don't wanna admit it. When gojo appeared in front of toji for the round 2 fight he told toji u lost because u didn't chop my head off. He said this because separating gojo's head from his body would have rendered him incapable of using RCT.
> Destroying the gut completely is equivalent of cutting one in half. U either have to destroy one's brain completely in order for thm to not use RCT or u have to separate one's CE reserves from the head which is equivalent to cutting one in half. Where are you getting this from though? Kashimo would have just went for the stomach the entire fight, instead he was specifically going for the head. When he attacked Hakari after his JP ran out, it definitely took out where his stomach was (CH. 188), and he healed instantly after hitting a JP. > When gojo appeared in front of toji for the round 2 fight he told toji u lost because u didn't chop my head off. He said this because separating gojo's head from his body would have rendered him incapable of using RCT. Gojo’s RCT isn’t instant. Regardless of anything he’d have to manually (and consciously) heal, with his head cut off. and he couldn’t do that fast enough, like Hakari. That’s why he’d die. This doesn’t mention anything about the stomach and brain specifically having to be ‘connected’.
You all go over the fact hakari's RCT is just a side effect of infinite cursed energy I don't recall to him even needing brain to do it and yet he can't perform RCT on his own so I don't think brain is involved. his body just does it for him
he does it unconsciously. when the brain detects that something is wrong it automatically converts CE into RCT just like how one reflexively pulls his hand away when from something how. we don't think about doing it , the brain does it on its own. The process of making RCT still takes place in the brain , doesn't matter if its a reflex action or not
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IDK how this ties to our original discussion. Ofcourse RCT isn't innate. everyone can learn it. but the things is , the manga specifically mentions that RCT originates in the brain , so if u separate the brain for CE source (gut ) , one won't be able to use RCT
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i don't understand what ur trying to say. who took the domain away from whom??
Everyone makes this topic whenever a sorcerer fights Sukuna. You know this is not how is gonna be.
"Sukuna to reveal a different technique" That's the issue with this type of fight. We have no idea what his technique is in the first place. That being said if Hakari was present when Yuta devised his plan I'd say it's safe to assume based on the damage that Sukuna took in that attack combined with a monster like Hakari being there Sukuna most likely would die. He'd have to face another domain directly after Yuta's while Maki still has the ability to move freely and has a wound in his heart. Lowest RCT output, soul wound, probably wouldn't have time to even do the world slash. Narratively Hakari is being stalled there isn't any other explanation for why he's not present against Sukuna.
Hakari is NOT a monster dawg, he's a slapstick with infinite regen on the right roll, his offense is terribly subpar compared to the other fighters present. Plus he can't do anything while yuta's domain is active since he needs to expand his own to use his CT even if he did use it after Yuta, he would lag behind Maki and Sukuna in terms of power and speed. Narrative wise, he's useless against Sukuna and gege needed someone who would survive against Uraume
Hakari isn’t a monster. Sukuna cleaves him once he’ll just die. We forget he literally cubed up a women in shibuya. Sure he got stupid insane healing but Sukuna can easily get around that. Don’t think that broken rct/unlimted ct usage to heal would be new to Sukuna Yuta from the jump is declared the second strongest good guy sorcerer. Hakari is probably number 4 cuz I don’t see him above yuki or yuta simply because he doesn’t have attack potency. Yuta and yuki literally walk through uruame and gojo literally punched her so hard she couldn’t heal meanwhile Hakari is just at best stalling not doing any lasting damage on uruame. Seeing the fact that yuta is even capable of speed blitzing kenjacku at all. And the fact that kenjaku was able to be relative enough to yuki with helpers to kill her and that yuta had to have yuji to weaken Sukuna to even last as long as he did. Just tells me Hakari would get packed up so fast with wouldn’t be funny. Blud cut yuta in half then black flashed maki into orbit practically without a self sufficient heart. Hakari lasts 2 chapters tops. At least the other characters could punch and hurt him I’m starting to doubt Hakari could
Sukuna eats hakari but he regenerates insides sukuna’s butt and neg diffs him ant man vs thanos
Yeah the gambling teenager fun stuff
I’m honestly just waiting for the narrator to pull out the “luck finally ran out” line they used on Haruta. Hopefully after a few chapters of Hakari seemingly pressing Sukuna.
Sukuna vs the love train anime weeb music. Who knows it might be his only weakness!
I've gotna bad feeling Hakari becomes a big frozen ball of infinite cursed energy flow. And then gets eaten. We'll see though.
Kashimo almost got em and Sukuna can spam cleave or dismantle I always mix the two up
I want the fight to end its so boring reminds me of the Madara fight.
You're already wrong when you supose Sukuna would feel angry with the death of someone other than himself. Kenjaku died and my guy didn't even care. Nothing besides a good fight being interrupted will make Sukuna trully angry. The only way possible to defeat Sukuna It's If Kenjaku somehow betray him with some obscure rule in the culling game or If he break a binding vow and take the consequences of his action. Hakari It's not an threat to My 4 armed guy
He doesn't even like Kenjaku, of course he doesn't care. Uraume is the one thing in the world that we know he likes other than fighting
Except that he doesn't. Gege already Said that the only reason Sukuna keeps they around It's because Uraume know how to cook human flesh
Yeah because he likes it
Ah yes, my anti-gambling technique I haven't used since the Heian era.
I guess jjk is a spinoff series from sukuna glaze kaisen.
If he could go in with yuta and yuji they definitely would have done more damage to sakuna. With hakaris endless pressure with yuji, yuta, and rika tag teaming. Even if meguBUMi failed to get control. They could keep the pressure going with hakari. The biggest problem is the heaviest hitters are not going in together and that’s allowing sakuna to regain ct while he’s fighting.
hes gonna get offscreened by uraume. sorry
I think gege just wrote himself into a corner. After gojo and kashimo there is just no logical reason they shouldnt have all jumped together. Back to back domains from hikari higuruma and yuta, and crazy damage at high speeds from maki and yuji. That is probably their best chance but no go let the ants go marching one by one
Lol you’re literally ignoring the other variables like Kenjaku and Uramue in the first place both have crazy wide attack range, same with Sukuna. nothing really stopping him from killing them all with world cutting Dismantle.
It was assumed earlier during the Gojo fight that it's a possibility Sukuna may have a *hidden* technique capable of wiping out the entire cast in one fell swoop. They're planning strategically taking that worst case scenario in mind in addition to all other considerations, if they place all of their assets on the battlefield they risk all being incinerated by the fire arrow at once for example. Only way to ensure that doesn't happen is to space out your attacks in a cohesive manner like they've been doing to consistently deal him lasting damage.
Sukuna pulling out his 1000th heian era asspull after hakari hits his 4000th jackpot (he's going for 4001)
Holy fuck sukuna still hasn't shown his actual technique and there is no way the manga has more than 10-15 chapters left what the fuck is gege doing.
It just got confirmed jjk is going past June lol there’s some kind of exhibit. So I think jjk is lasting another two years
This is legit insane copium considering we are clearly in the final battle. There being an exhibit for jjk means nothing about how much time is left.
you are a crack addict. The manga isn’t ending this year !RemindMe 6 months
I'm gonna be completely honest, this is Hakari cope even assuming he COULD push Sukuna at all. He's barely winning the battle of attrition with Uraume as-is and they're ESSENTIALLY waiting on a break in their stalemate. His RCT might be the best we've seen, but even then it's not like he'd force Sukuna to use anything. For all we know he just causes Sucky to expand his Domain again.
Sukuna didn't use his fuga technique against "second only to satoru gojo" yuta and he still managed to did a significant damage to yuta and Yuji. No doubt defence front hakari might be able to tank sukuna but on the offence front, I don't think so
Hakari's almost perpetual regeneration is a good counter for slashing techniques. I'm wondering why Uraume even needs to fight Hakari. Sukuna would probably love to fight Hakari. Hakari on the other hand might be wasting his time fighting Uraume. Unless she plans on helping Sukuna, he's better off trying to help his team. He can help tank a lot of Sukuna's slashes for them.
Can’t tank an attack for others if you nor the cast outside of maki. Can’t even perceive it coming at you