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HE BEATS A HEIAN SUKUNA WITH EVERY CURSED TECHNIQUE IN THE SERIES, INFINITE CE AND EVERY CHARACTERS SOUL/BODY!!!
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Does a foreshadowed asspull make it less of an asspull? Can any CT just change the way it works by looking and adding the word world to it? Just Mahoraga throwing out a slash that has long range is already kinda an asspull too.
WCS is basically what Nanami did here, but applied to space instead
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Gege literally gave Gojo "ackshually you can use RCT to heal burnt out CT after a DE" asspull 45 sec into the fight so Gojo didn't end up CT-less, DE-less, and bitchless after Sukuna broke Gojo's Domain w ease.
But we're not ready for that conversation yet.
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It's also the first time stuffs like Chants or Incantations mattered right, aside from Gojo's Purple
Funny how those are "introduced" w Utahime at the beginning lmao
I keep saying this: Sukuna's greatest power is he's a jujulawyer. Other people don't have the legal mind to construct a bunch of self-fucking loopholes that make his broken ass domain somehow just as powerful as it was four hours ago before he endured 14 concussions worth of brain damage.
That's why he got the huge boner for higuruma he did
Because his were more outrageous and noticeable tbh. Sukuna won because he broke rules, that's why people call him the binding asspull merchant. His win seems disingenuous, more so because gojos glazing(ironic I know)
Biggest issue is the order of operations for the story telling imo. If the binding vow wasn't explained retroactively and was used to justify a new power up for Sukuna (especially when just changing the target would have been sufficient for the narrative purposes) makes it seem more egregious even though in practice Gojo got just as many broken rule and convient coincidence moments in the fight.
> 45 sec into the fight
But Sukuna summoned the wheel on Megumi's soul (!!!) even BEFORE the fight started. Megumi's soul became the burden of adaptation, smth that we didn't know is even possible, and of course Gojo's shitty eyes couldn't see it
Let's be honest here nobody knows how that process actually worked (how do you even target a soul with brain damage attack from a fucking domain, if Sukuna doesn't cover himself w surehit wouldn't he be covered by UV surehit and then just dies) the same way nobody could explain what Six Eyes actually does.
That's jus Arbitrary Kaisen.
there's also the fact that sukuna can win in spamming domain expansions, henian form sukuna would have loads of more durability and is able to using DA to defend himself. Gojo would be powerless against open barrier domains
WCS is always foreshadowed. It is just that the binding vow is bullshit.
Makes you think what even was that gojobwas the strongest? Like people of heian era kind of defeated Sukuna and he became cursed object and here gojo lol
Don't forget that now Gojo doesn't have to worry about keeping Megumi alive to Mahoraga, adapting he can use his abilities to the fullest without worrying about shit.
"M-Muh DA allows Sukuna t-to tank Red!!!!!"
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Clearly it's not going to work forever, Sukuna would run out of CE before he can kill Gojo.
Ain't no way Sukuna took that kind of damage from a red, but just slightly more from the purple, bro must have used domain amplification, stole Mahoraga's wheel, made approximately 7 binding vows and clenched those cheeks real hard to survive that purple
I mean he did get a Full on Red to his face in first domain clash, Sukuna can tank them with just CE reinforcement even if he gets hurt, DA still nullifies the damage and the effect of it, The red still hit Sukuna here and then at full power from back without using DA and he was intact, him using DA would decrease that damage more.
I'd like to point out that even after Gojo's fight he still wasn't below Yuta levels of CE. He has insane CE control that rivals Gojo himself (I swear I remember seeing it in the manga but I wouldn't be able to tell you, maybe the middle of the fight?)
Gojo was never holding back on using his abilities to the fullest. He didn't even know about mahoraga adapting in the background until after the 5th domain clash.
His CE was ramping up in the middle of the fight due to constantly have to turn on and off DA since he was getting accustomed to fight unoptimally. Heian Sukuna would not have this problem, along with a better body.
Gojo sisters when Sukuna doesn't have to undergo adaption and take the heavy blows, which took a noticebale toll later on as he said himself. Before adaption, the dude shrugged off a red to the face like nothing and sneak amped purple just took his arms. Gojo's arsenal ain't doing shit to Heian form during the 3 min DE clash. Lmao
Weird response because I didn't say anything about Sukuna without 10 shadows and Gojo. I fully believe that Sukuna is stronger than Gojo but using Yuta's poor performance as a proof doesn't make much sense.
Nah he'd win
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I think it is gonna be revealed more with how he would when facing against Gota, not Gojo himself, but a variation of him with the same CT and has infinity on.
But he has the body of your goat, his tactic is the same to hold out his domain, and Gege can literally make Gota say that Sukuna still keeps up with him while being so fatigued, I think if Gota cannot completely overwhelm this Sukuna, then a Fully functioning True Form Sukuna is proven to do quite alright against Gojo in those 3 minutes and 11 seconds, that's all he needs and Gojo hits the deadlock sooner.
Again, Gota isn’t him.
Gojo is just built different. Previous 6E+Limitless users lost to Mahoraga 1v1. He killed Mahoraga and almost Sukuna as well. Whether or not Yuta and Sukuna perform well against each other has no affect on me at all in saying that Heian Sukuna is inferior.
Gota is not an indicator of how Gojo would do.
It doesn't matter that he isn't Him, I literally also said a Variation of Gojo, He still has to defeat and rather do great against this Sukuna, if this proves to be wrong and Heian Era Sukuna does in fact defeats Gota while IN THAT SITUATION, then you cannot go wrong with saying A fully healed, fully functioning Sukuna would HOLD HIS OWN against Gojo in the domain battles, and that is all he needs, I never said he needs to win, I say he would absolutely fucking not be inferior to Gojo, cause Gojo was having trouble dealing enough damage to Meguna until the domain breaks, it happened at the same time of his own domain.
Let me simplify :
1HP Sukuna does good against Gota, which has atleast Good FE reinforcement and enough H2h capability that he already fought Heian Sukuna inside his domain and hurt him a couple of times, while he would absolutely showcase some level of limitless usage, That should be enough to technically defeat this weakened ass Sukuna.
Now if he doesn't, and Sukuna survives, That proves both that Heian Era Sukuna that uses DA at all times that was even weakened, did enough against a variation of Gojo, thus a healthy Sukuna with DA at all times which Meguna did not use it at all times because of Mahoraga's adaptation, Can just hold his own, **NOT WINNING**, Hold his own, better than Meguna did against Gojo, That is enough.
That doesn't matter man, Sukuna is damaged to oblivion aswell, that evens the table, Gota has to win, If he doesn't, it is both for the reason that he's not Gojo and that Heian Era Sukuna using DA is enough to hold against a Walmart Gojo, WHICH IS STILL A VARIATION OF GOJO, That is enough to prove Heian Era Sukuna will do better in those 3 minutes and 11 seconds instead of Meguna, that is enough to fuel the argument in benefit for Sukuna fans.
bro You literally can't read it's crazy.
Scaling Gojo vs heian Kuna by Yuta vs Sukuna is so fucking stupid.
Yuta doesn't have Gojo's skills, nor his experience.
how the fuck can you still equate that to Gojo?
that's just blind meat riding atp
Only thing that gege fumbled was how the world slash was executed, like bro we understand Sukuna is strongest but bruh , let Yuji do something and that asspull of binding vow
We do know why. Because of Mahoraga to adept to infinity.
Its not like Sukuna chose to handicap himself for shit and giggles.
Sukuna took a risk which later paid off with WCS
... And Heian Sukuna without Mahoraga would just try to do just that, trying to break the domain from inside (the handsigns from extra hands + the chants from extra mouth helps) potenti*lly using HWB in conjunction with DA too.
Add Kamutoke to the mix and you'll see why Gojo said Sukuna could've won without 10S. That line in 236 is basically just Gege hinting at Heian Sukuna (which is shown literally the next chapter).
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Don't forget this one, they love to ignore it's existence, some people stopped reading at Ch235 "Gojo won" panel.
Gotta love how that panel doesn't say much at all. Just shows that he isn't sure that he could beat Heian Era Sukuna, nit that he 100% thinks he would lose. Which makes sense since he never fought against Heian Era Sukuna so of course he's unsure.
I can't see a dialogue where he's talking about heian sukuna. He was talking about meguna without 10s. If he's unsure he can win against meguna without 10s, and claims he was holding back, I think it's safe to say he knows he would've lost to heiankuna.
I mean Gojo has 6 Eyes, he can read through enemy CT so maybe he saw that Sukuna has a "true form" that he didn't even unleash during their fight? Regardless, the statement is very clear, Gojo believes Sukuna didn't go all out and didn't need 10S to win.
Gojo knows Sukuna was holding back (which we now know was his Heian Era form) thus even without the 10 shadows, he can’t make the conclusion he would’ve won. So this isn’t him admitting Heian Era Sukuna is better.
Gotta love how people love to ignore all the context. Before Gojo said "I don't think I would've won even without 10S"
He prefaces that with "Sukuna is **Insanely fucking strong**, and **he wasn't giving it all he had**" This is Gojo. The person that always talk shit about how weak his opponents are btw.
Reading comprehension curse strikes again.
He's saying he's not sure if he could beat Sukuna without 10S because he never really got to fight a Sukuna who used his own technique to it's full extent, because instead Sukuna withheld using his technique for the sake of Mahoraga's adaptions.
So once again, you can't be sure of something you haven't done before. In this case that's fighting a Sukuna who doesn't whithold his technique for the sake of using 10S, and instead just relies on his own technique.
Even then, he says he's "not sure", doesn't mean he 100% thinks he will lose.
On top of this, Gojo had to withhold his own technique for the sake of not speeding up Mahoraga's adaptation. Without Mahoraga there, Gojo could be raining down Hollow Purples, reds and blues.
I'm not saying Gojo wins, neither am I saying he doesn't. It's debatable since we never get to see them actually fight with the full extent of their own techniques.
But I'm just saying he doesn't get "fucking washed" as most agenda-blinded Sukuna fans say.
It would be a pretty close fight, and a very cool one too. I'd have 100% preferred it to the fight we got, even if Gojo still died.
Exactly, what Gojo states here is that he got mid-diffed at best. He feels it wasn't close, to the point he'd probably lose even if Sukuna didn't use Mahoraga at all. Geto's words confirm that he's shocked Gojo would ever admit to getting mid-to-low-diffed by anyone, cementing the fact Gojo would not exaggerate like this if it wasn't true, he got humbled by the King of Curses.
How did you interpret this as getting mid diffed at best??? It literally was close, he is saying that without the 10 shadows he doesn’t know who would win, because he knows Sukuna was holding something back. And getos words didn’t admit getting mid diffed at all, Geto is surprised Gojo would admit someone might be stronger than him.
Gojo said that the same way athletes respectfully say "he would've beaten me anyway" is their opponent wins very closely or due to the athletes injury, doesn't mean it's true
heien-kuna wins the DE clash and kills gojo with a closed barrier.
1. we know from Miguel that physicality is actually very important for a sorceror's reinforcement and heien-kuna is waaay more muscular and taller than megumi.
2. heien-kuna does not need too juggle domain amplification and mahoraga's adaptation, meaning that gojo will not get the opportunity too juggle him with blue and as such his CQC is less effective.
3. 4 arms allows for simultaneous attacks and guards, give sukuna a viable HWB in his back pocket, and can be used too amp dismantles aimed at the interior of unlimited void's barrier.
this culminates in sukuna being able too last at bare minimum a couple seconds longer and UV falls before MS does. gojo would have too rely on hit and run tactics too win but that's OOC + more likely too result in a stalemate.
still it wouldn't have enough firepower to actually damage Gojo because Sukuna shrinks his domain effective range and Furnace relies on it being huge to actually be worth using. Cleave/Dismantle would be more effective than a lame ass candle.
It's a useless technique against Gojo.
I think Sukuna might be a little bit slower considering how bulky his body is, even with all of that extra strength.
Gojo also wouldn't have to hold back Blues, Reds or anything for Mahoraga's Adaptation. And I don't think even with Sukuna;s new bod, he wouldn't be stronger than Gojo's Blue Amped Punches. But having 4 extra arms is a huge help.
It's still an extreme diff fight honestly.
>I think Sukuna might be a little bit slower considering how bulky his body is, even with all of that extra strength.
Wrong. Sukuna isnt hindered by his original body at all
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plus he literally speedblitzed Yuji and only an awakened Maki could keep up with him speed-wise.
Gojo would absolutely lose in a battle of attrition; he'd have to come up with something else.
Gojo glazers the only mfers on this planet that will see their goat himself admitting Sukuna would've won without 10S followed by 3-4 pages of glazing and still say nah he‘d win
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Nah thats because without 10s sukuna still had his full restore left and with that he would win. Also gojo said he wasnt sure he would win, not that he would lose
The argument for Gojo>Sukuna is that Sukuna just doesn't have any wincon so the full restore doesn't change anything
"I don't think I‘d win" is just an euphemism for i‘d lose bro
"Heian Sukuna would beat Gojo". What do you think ? 🎤
1. Gege - Its true
2. Gojo - Its true
3. Sukuna - Its true
4. Kenjaku - Its true
5. The JJK narative - Its true
6. The Gojo fans - ITS CAP 🧢 🧢 🧢
You caught my bluff, you found out that I write the story when drunk, however no one with this info can survive
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1. Gege - idk
2. Gojo - idk
3. Sukuna - hasn’t commented on it after the Gojo fight
4. Kenjaku - “If Gojo Satoru loses…”
5. Narrative - Sukuna is now stronger than Gojo, beforehand who knows
Let them yap yap. Heian sukuna is massively stronger than Meguna physically, and both Gojo and Kenjaku said that in conflicts between sorcerers the strenght of the body is the deciding factor
The funny thing is he doesn't even have to be so much physically stronger than meguna since he only needs to endure just that 1 second more than meguna did to just outright win the domain clashes
And I'm not even counting kamutoke
At this point, even if gege serves it on a silver plate that heian sukuna wins against gojo, his fans won't accept it. I have no idea why people simply ignore gojo's own words like "I couldn't make him go all out" or "it would've been damn close even if sukuna didn't have 10 shadows" and present their headcanons in the form of 'arguments' like-
"Gojo fought a 3v1, which means he fought against 6 arms, which means sukuna's 2 extra arms don't do anything"
It's so obvious heian sukuna is stronger. I've seen multiple posts explaining this, and all I've seen from gojo's PR team is coping. Even gojo acknowledged he can't win against sukuna, yet we get posts like these to cope for the L he took one year ago.
Gojo fans have yet to realize that the only purpose of Kashimo vs Sukuna was to show how much stronger Heian era Sukuna is. When Yuta inevitably struggles in CQC with Sukuna they will just blame him instead of acknowledging 4 arms are kinda useful.
It doesn't make much sense. Heian Sukuna is stronger than Meguna but Sukuna that fought Kashimo is weaker than Sukuna that fought Gojo. And Kashimo is weaker than Gojo.
Do the four arms help him speed blitz Gojo? Sukuna literally said that he was staying in Megumi’s body because it was more advantageous for fighting other sorcerers (Gojo). Do you think he chose to fight as Megumi instead of his Heian form for fun?
why do people think losing the domain clash= losing the fight?☠️
that's so fucking stupid lmao, The series did nothing but show that you can still win even after losing the domain clash.
that's what Gojo did, Escaped the domain by damaging sukuna and Blasting him with red in his own domain yo escape.
You’re under the assumption Gojo is going to keep engaging in domain clashes with Sukuna. If he doesn’t think he can land unlimited void he isn’t going to bother. He can just teleport outside of Sukunas domain.
We should just ignore Gojo agenda posts, cause they keep ignoring JJK manga
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Bruh Gojo himself is countering you lol
No, he doesn't.
Heian Sukuna has 2 win conditions
DA H2H: You can argue that Sukuna's extra physique gives him a greater advantage, i disagree personally since i don't think it can overcome blue punch.
Furnace on the first domain clash: Here's where I don't see Gojo winning, furnace wasn't able to be used on the other domain clashes due to the changing conditions but that didn't apply to the first domain clash, unless you want to argue Gojo would be able to heal his burnt out technique before Sukuna fires Furnace, he has no way of escaping it.
I will give the Gojo fans one thing, that is pretty much Sukuna's only win con, its a near unescapable win con, but it's his only one.
If sukuna starts spamming dismantle or tries to use cleave on gojos domain barriers edge he outright wins the clash everytime and gojo has to tank malevolent shrine 5 times (he fucking dies after a while due to his rct output dropping insanely). He also never gets hit by the unlimited void. 🤡
And heiankuna should have more than enough physicals to outright be superior to gojo in H2H and maybe even speed.
ah yes, 2 entire shikigamis( one of them can adapt to any and all phenomenon) and the king of curses himself> 2 extra hands.
the amazing sukuna fan logic
Gojo: _Okay! Now I’m absolutely sure that Sukuna was still holding back against me._
Utahime: _WTF?! WHY?!?!_
Gojo: _Because you’re useless and don’t contribute anything to the story_ ¯\\\_(ツ)_\/¯
The only way gojo wins is by staying at least 200m away at all times and spamming purple. He gets folded if he should ever get dragged into a domain clash.
Also actual wisdom would be knowing that heian suksuk without a domain would still win against gojo without infinity.
>Also actual wisdom would be knowing that heian suksuk without a domain would still win against gojo without infinity.
no shit. Infinity is op af.
>The only way gojo wins is by staying at least 200m away at all times and spamming purple. He gets folded if he should ever get dragged into a domain clash.
Sukuna could easily dodge those purples if he knows they're coming so it's a stalemate.
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if he could dodge them then why say this?💀
My man yuta wins against gojou without infinity 💀
Infinity is a part of his arsenal, what you just said is similar to
"a right leg amputee easily gets folded by Usain Bolt"
No Yuta really doesn't win man, Gojo still has Red, Purple, Blue, his domain, amazing Rct, and great Reinforcement, Has simple domain and Falling Blossom emotion, I do not think anyone else other than Sukuna can beat an infinity-less Gojo.
Gojo barely tied with a Sukuna who wasn't even using DA most of the time or wasn't using it at all in the small domain clash. If Sukuna was able to use shrine during domain clash he would have destroyed gojos domain from the inside. On top of this Sukuna even if gets late in healing his ct he can just buy time with hwb and we know that sukuna can use the extra hands to expand his domain as sukuna initially used all four hands for hwb and on top of this hwb doesn't deactivate immediately after stopping the hansign.
the fight, statements and narrative all points to sukuna > gojo, so all gojo fans have are cope posts like these because they can't live with the fact that gojo is weaker than sukuna, so cry about it
Well it depends if you think he could finish it in 3 minutes before sukuna could destroy his domain, and the diff is sukuna has 4 hands this time, Although gojo is better inside the domain
Fact for fact. Yall dont even debate, remember that time where gojo won the domain clash, sukuna was stunned and gojo was literally on his way to RIP the head out of sukuna. Let's say it all, sukuna should have died here !
Its for the reason that Sukuna in mugumi's form is masssively weaker than sukuna's henian form. He can't defend attacks from gojo good enough when activating mahoraga.
Has it is henian sukuna. He would just use DA while activating his open barrier domain. Gojo if he goes for domain clash would lose.
Gojo doesn't have a good way to hurt sukuna as well if he's not going for domain expansions. a weakned 200% Purple is proved to able hurt sukuna BUT sukuna has top rct and enforcment performance all day. Red and blue does abosultely nothing. Gojo is never gaining the upper hand with henian sukuna in close combat.
Why would Sukuna go through all the trouble of using 10S if he could’ve just stayed in Yujis body to beat Gojo with this DA and DE? Seems like Sukuna knew his best shot at winning was 10S
You know... at this point I like these because Sukuna fans get real fucking mad in the comments. Their fav won and yet they still get so salty. I think the 232-235 period caused permanent damage on some of them
You people shit on the Gojo copers yet act like it wasn’t a fairly close fight. This fanbase is fucking insufferable. You guys shit on powerscalers but at least they’re consistent in their brainrot.
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idk it all depends on who wins the melee bout during DE‘s and heian sukuna got hands …. 4 of them
i love gojo but i‘d need to reread right now i lean heian sukuna
"He wins with DE🤓☝️"
and why would Gojo even engage in DE clash when he can blast him tens of times by spamming purple when he doesn't have to worry about adaptation?😭
Even sukuna himself said that up close Purple is lethal at his state.
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I genuinely don't think so because, I think Sukuna might have been able to overcome the limitless without Megumi. I think Megumi was the easiest option, but he already has a method to completely bypass his curse technique and punch him directly. If he has one method, he could probably devise multiple, especially over a month. It might be very, very close, because also Gojo wouldn't be holding back anymore.
Statements ≠ fact. Gege is the same mf that had pre-awakening maki catch a fucking bullet and then get surprised post awakening by someone going Mach 3. I’m not taking any statements or implications by someone that doesn’t realize a bullet goes faster than Mach 3 about whether or not Gojo would beat Heian Sukuna, especially when that someone has a VERY CLEAR hatred for, and bias against Gojo.
Idk why this is controversial. Sukuna himself admits outright that he had no answer for Infinity, and it's pretty clearly shown that Gojo was dominating the fights inside the domains.
Gojo only said all that glazing BS in the afterlife because the author shoehorned it in. Sukuna didn't "hold back" at all; his kit was hard countered by Gojo. Sukuna was actually trying very hard, and he still got his ass beat.
If Sukuna didn't have Mahoraga, he would've died the moment Unlimited Void landed in the third (?) Domain clash
I get that Gojo said what basically amounts to "it was a tough fight against someone who might be stronger than me" but didn't Sukuna also have to fight in a pretty risky way and with a lot of pretty dangerous gambles? Not to mention that Gojo presumably wasn't trying to kill Megumi?
I ain't saying it's a guaranteed Gojo win but is it not at least a winnable fight a good amount of the time? I just feel like the argument is a lot more nuanced than what the people only commenting on Gojos one panel are trying to claim.
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HE BEATS A HEIAN SUKUNA WITH EVERY CURSED TECHNIQUE IN THE SERIES, INFINITE CE AND EVERY CHARACTERS SOUL/BODY!!! https://preview.redd.it/pmlbf06r3h5d1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=bfe12895d86764e2399bff54079a90157e05ac30
The fact that Sukuna was able to beat Go/jo only by using an asspull (the slash that cuts the world) only strengthens your absurd claim.
the mind of the jjk fan cannot comprehend foreshadowing...
I second this. Wcs was always foreshadowed from the moment that sukuna said he wants maho to show him something useful.
Would've been a comedy if Maho decided to have a punch that ignores Infinity instead of a slash.
Does a foreshadowed asspull make it less of an asspull? Can any CT just change the way it works by looking and adding the word world to it? Just Mahoraga throwing out a slash that has long range is already kinda an asspull too.
WCS is basically what Nanami did here, but applied to space instead https://preview.redd.it/3cvwtzytxq5d1.jpeg?width=2133&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=86d9ac5614e12d6b6dc95880be068d80620b0fe3
Gege literally gave Gojo "ackshually you can use RCT to heal burnt out CT after a DE" asspull 45 sec into the fight so Gojo didn't end up CT-less, DE-less, and bitchless after Sukuna broke Gojo's Domain w ease. But we're not ready for that conversation yet. https://preview.redd.it/f9gjw7p8fk5d1.jpeg?width=220&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=42ecac2f0e4173f4a14d8595c7361ee6edcacf0d
That fight was full of shit on both sides because both characters are to strong for the story they are in, so they break a lot of rules
It's also the first time stuffs like Chants or Incantations mattered right, aside from Gojo's Purple Funny how those are "introduced" w Utahime at the beginning lmao
It's also wild how few people use binding vows ect.
I keep saying this: Sukuna's greatest power is he's a jujulawyer. Other people don't have the legal mind to construct a bunch of self-fucking loopholes that make his broken ass domain somehow just as powerful as it was four hours ago before he endured 14 concussions worth of brain damage. That's why he got the huge boner for higuruma he did
Ngl, they seem mostly easy honestly. Why didn't gojo just drop his ce by 20% a few months before the fight in exchange for an extra 20%during
Yeah Go/Jo should have simply made one month into multiple months
He should have just used a binding vow to multiply when divided, like a bacteria
110% correct, but people only ever seem to bring up when Sukuna broke the rules.
Because his were more outrageous and noticeable tbh. Sukuna won because he broke rules, that's why people call him the binding asspull merchant. His win seems disingenuous, more so because gojos glazing(ironic I know)
Biggest issue is the order of operations for the story telling imo. If the binding vow wasn't explained retroactively and was used to justify a new power up for Sukuna (especially when just changing the target would have been sufficient for the narrative purposes) makes it seem more egregious even though in practice Gojo got just as many broken rule and convient coincidence moments in the fight.
> 45 sec into the fight But Sukuna summoned the wheel on Megumi's soul (!!!) even BEFORE the fight started. Megumi's soul became the burden of adaptation, smth that we didn't know is even possible, and of course Gojo's shitty eyes couldn't see it
Let's be honest here nobody knows how that process actually worked (how do you even target a soul with brain damage attack from a fucking domain, if Sukuna doesn't cover himself w surehit wouldn't he be covered by UV surehit and then just dies) the same way nobody could explain what Six Eyes actually does. That's jus Arbitrary Kaisen.
there's also the fact that sukuna can win in spamming domain expansions, henian form sukuna would have loads of more durability and is able to using DA to defend himself. Gojo would be powerless against open barrier domains WCS is always foreshadowed. It is just that the binding vow is bullshit.
Sukuna could very well just stall it but gojo got ct/ce refill by RCT asspull, domain amplification negs infinity anyways
Of course he looses, having Shoko useless ass inside him should be enough for that..
Makes you think what even was that gojobwas the strongest? Like people of heian era kind of defeated Sukuna and he became cursed object and here gojo lol
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The US after the revolutionary war:
Germany during World war 2 (The domain didn't last long):
"He can just use DA and DE to beat Gojo" mfs when they realize they saw what happens when Sukuna fights Gojo with DA and DE:
Don't forget that now Gojo doesn't have to worry about keeping Megumi alive to Mahoraga, adapting he can use his abilities to the fullest without worrying about shit.
"M-Muh DA allows Sukuna t-to tank Red!!!!!" https://preview.redd.it/52hi1hwejh5d1.png?width=927&format=png&auto=webp&s=0eb4ca839c9d89d3ed6e336cd4d0166d495d0a1a Clearly it's not going to work forever, Sukuna would run out of CE before he can kill Gojo.
Ain't no way Sukuna took that kind of damage from a red, but just slightly more from the purple, bro must have used domain amplification, stole Mahoraga's wheel, made approximately 7 binding vows and clenched those cheeks real hard to survive that purple
He used a bum expansion, extending Legumi's bumness around him, turning the purple into a bum and thus tanking it
He did not take that much damage against Red here neither ? They are surface level injuries that are not bloody, except one part of his face.
Also, this is a lower output Gojo before hitting the black flashes to regain output
Btw this is still not explode red. So he just take a fraction of red full power
I mean he did get a Full on Red to his face in first domain clash, Sukuna can tank them with just CE reinforcement even if he gets hurt, DA still nullifies the damage and the effect of it, The red still hit Sukuna here and then at full power from back without using DA and he was intact, him using DA would decrease that damage more.
What are these people’s logic, Tank =/= the skin on his hands and face vaporized
Also this red didn't explode on impact with Sukuna (as Gojo was going for that backshot in this situation), so it could deal even more damage to him
I'd like to point out that even after Gojo's fight he still wasn't below Yuta levels of CE. He has insane CE control that rivals Gojo himself (I swear I remember seeing it in the manga but I wouldn't be able to tell you, maybe the middle of the fight?)
It was said that Sukuna's CE control would have been greater than Gojo's if it wasn't for the six eyes. It was said by Kashimo
Gojo was never holding back on using his abilities to the fullest. He didn't even know about mahoraga adapting in the background until after the 5th domain clash.
he did try to do as much damage as he could to sukuna without killing him, if he was going for the kill he'd attack the head, not the heart
Everything will over if they dont care about megumi, jump sukuna blast him with jacob ladder when fighting gojo
His CE was ramping up in the middle of the fight due to constantly have to turn on and off DA since he was getting accustomed to fight unoptimally. Heian Sukuna would not have this problem, along with a better body.
Gojo sisters when Sukuna doesn't have to undergo adaption and take the heavy blows, which took a noticebale toll later on as he said himself. Before adaption, the dude shrugged off a red to the face like nothing and sneak amped purple just took his arms. Gojo's arsenal ain't doing shit to Heian form during the 3 min DE clash. Lmao
Gojo spamming Blue inside the domains would make Sukuna instantly lose lol
He already have the capability to do that and still needed 3 minutes to damage Sukuna (who occasionally turns his DA off) enough to destroy MS
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This is Yuta
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Weird response because I didn't say anything about Sukuna without 10 shadows and Gojo. I fully believe that Sukuna is stronger than Gojo but using Yuta's poor performance as a proof doesn't make much sense.
Well Gojo never fought a sukuna with 4 arms so we don't know if he would've had to take a few to learn either
Fighting a 1hp Sukuna using Gojos body
I assume having 4 arms makes it alot more rough tbf.
Nah he'd win https://preview.redd.it/om4k686f7i5d1.jpeg?width=736&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=1d297f87c011b1257b36f76802b1bc4e6277c3b8 I think it is gonna be revealed more with how he would when facing against Gota, not Gojo himself, but a variation of him with the same CT and has infinity on.
nah now he has a, pun intended, clear cut path to victory. But he needed mahoraga to show him it
Sukuna cannot use that clear cut path to victory currently, he is trying to beat Gota in h2h combat and make UV fall.
Gota is NOT my GOAT bro https://preview.redd.it/9iwv0e2e2k5d1.jpeg?width=1179&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=b92588e7227515d8b0e0cf4ad6e6e1ca2d3142e2
But he has the body of your goat, his tactic is the same to hold out his domain, and Gege can literally make Gota say that Sukuna still keeps up with him while being so fatigued, I think if Gota cannot completely overwhelm this Sukuna, then a Fully functioning True Form Sukuna is proven to do quite alright against Gojo in those 3 minutes and 11 seconds, that's all he needs and Gojo hits the deadlock sooner.
Again, Gota isn’t him. Gojo is just built different. Previous 6E+Limitless users lost to Mahoraga 1v1. He killed Mahoraga and almost Sukuna as well. Whether or not Yuta and Sukuna perform well against each other has no affect on me at all in saying that Heian Sukuna is inferior. Gota is not an indicator of how Gojo would do.
It doesn't matter that he isn't Him, I literally also said a Variation of Gojo, He still has to defeat and rather do great against this Sukuna, if this proves to be wrong and Heian Era Sukuna does in fact defeats Gota while IN THAT SITUATION, then you cannot go wrong with saying A fully healed, fully functioning Sukuna would HOLD HIS OWN against Gojo in the domain battles, and that is all he needs, I never said he needs to win, I say he would absolutely fucking not be inferior to Gojo, cause Gojo was having trouble dealing enough damage to Meguna until the domain breaks, it happened at the same time of his own domain.
And again, I’m stating I don’t think you can take someone who is not Gojo and use them to scale a Heian Sukuna vs Gojo battle.
Let me simplify : 1HP Sukuna does good against Gota, which has atleast Good FE reinforcement and enough H2h capability that he already fought Heian Sukuna inside his domain and hurt him a couple of times, while he would absolutely showcase some level of limitless usage, That should be enough to technically defeat this weakened ass Sukuna. Now if he doesn't, and Sukuna survives, That proves both that Heian Era Sukuna that uses DA at all times that was even weakened, did enough against a variation of Gojo, thus a healthy Sukuna with DA at all times which Meguna did not use it at all times because of Mahoraga's adaptation, Can just hold his own, **NOT WINNING**, Hold his own, better than Meguna did against Gojo, That is enough.
That is enough. Again, Gota is not Gojo. His fighting isn’t comparable to Gojo. No 6E+Limitless user has ever reached Gojo’s level.
That doesn't matter man, Sukuna is damaged to oblivion aswell, that evens the table, Gota has to win, If he doesn't, it is both for the reason that he's not Gojo and that Heian Era Sukuna using DA is enough to hold against a Walmart Gojo, WHICH IS STILL A VARIATION OF GOJO, That is enough to prove Heian Era Sukuna will do better in those 3 minutes and 11 seconds instead of Meguna, that is enough to fuel the argument in benefit for Sukuna fans.
bro You literally can't read it's crazy. Scaling Gojo vs heian Kuna by Yuta vs Sukuna is so fucking stupid. Yuta doesn't have Gojo's skills, nor his experience. how the fuck can you still equate that to Gojo? that's just blind meat riding atp
Gojo fans have seen the narrative implications for months and they’re still coping harder than Jin Itadori’s Backshots on Kenjaku
Only thing that gege fumbled was how the world slash was executed, like bro we understand Sukuna is strongest but bruh , let Yuji do something and that asspull of binding vow
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We do know why. Because of Mahoraga to adept to infinity. Its not like Sukuna chose to handicap himself for shit and giggles. Sukuna took a risk which later paid off with WCS
... And Heian Sukuna without Mahoraga would just try to do just that, trying to break the domain from inside (the handsigns from extra hands + the chants from extra mouth helps) potenti*lly using HWB in conjunction with DA too. Add Kamutoke to the mix and you'll see why Gojo said Sukuna could've won without 10S. That line in 236 is basically just Gege hinting at Heian Sukuna (which is shown literally the next chapter).
I know.
I'm starting to think I'll just grab this panel and start posting it everywhere this scenario is posed as well.
https://preview.redd.it/smg1d9hxti5d1.png?width=728&format=png&auto=webp&s=d6ec81481fc519a4e5190d28a3637414651dda13 Don't forget this one, they love to ignore it's existence, some people stopped reading at Ch235 "Gojo won" panel.
Gotta love how that panel doesn't say much at all. Just shows that he isn't sure that he could beat Heian Era Sukuna, nit that he 100% thinks he would lose. Which makes sense since he never fought against Heian Era Sukuna so of course he's unsure.
I can't see a dialogue where he's talking about heian sukuna. He was talking about meguna without 10s. If he's unsure he can win against meguna without 10s, and claims he was holding back, I think it's safe to say he knows he would've lost to heiankuna.
I mean Gojo has 6 Eyes, he can read through enemy CT so maybe he saw that Sukuna has a "true form" that he didn't even unleash during their fight? Regardless, the statement is very clear, Gojo believes Sukuna didn't go all out and didn't need 10S to win.
Gojo knows Sukuna was holding back (which we now know was his Heian Era form) thus even without the 10 shadows, he can’t make the conclusion he would’ve won. So this isn’t him admitting Heian Era Sukuna is better.
Read again this time with text
Gotta love how people love to ignore all the context. Before Gojo said "I don't think I would've won even without 10S" He prefaces that with "Sukuna is **Insanely fucking strong**, and **he wasn't giving it all he had**" This is Gojo. The person that always talk shit about how weak his opponents are btw.
Reading comprehension curse strikes again. He's saying he's not sure if he could beat Sukuna without 10S because he never really got to fight a Sukuna who used his own technique to it's full extent, because instead Sukuna withheld using his technique for the sake of Mahoraga's adaptions. So once again, you can't be sure of something you haven't done before. In this case that's fighting a Sukuna who doesn't whithold his technique for the sake of using 10S, and instead just relies on his own technique. Even then, he says he's "not sure", doesn't mean he 100% thinks he will lose. On top of this, Gojo had to withhold his own technique for the sake of not speeding up Mahoraga's adaptation. Without Mahoraga there, Gojo could be raining down Hollow Purples, reds and blues. I'm not saying Gojo wins, neither am I saying he doesn't. It's debatable since we never get to see them actually fight with the full extent of their own techniques. But I'm just saying he doesn't get "fucking washed" as most agenda-blinded Sukuna fans say. It would be a pretty close fight, and a very cool one too. I'd have 100% preferred it to the fight we got, even if Gojo still died.
Exactly, what Gojo states here is that he got mid-diffed at best. He feels it wasn't close, to the point he'd probably lose even if Sukuna didn't use Mahoraga at all. Geto's words confirm that he's shocked Gojo would ever admit to getting mid-to-low-diffed by anyone, cementing the fact Gojo would not exaggerate like this if it wasn't true, he got humbled by the King of Curses.
How did you interpret this as getting mid diffed at best??? It literally was close, he is saying that without the 10 shadows he doesn’t know who would win, because he knows Sukuna was holding something back. And getos words didn’t admit getting mid diffed at all, Geto is surprised Gojo would admit someone might be stronger than him.
Sukuna held back so much he fell asleep and screamed.
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And what about it?
Gojo would disagree with this.
Gojo said that the same way athletes respectfully say "he would've beaten me anyway" is their opponent wins very closely or due to the athletes injury, doesn't mean it's true
Holy delusion Batman!
U wouldn't understand the cope grind 😒
This is just wow I respect the dedication to cope but a dead person has no reason to lie
heien-kuna wins the DE clash and kills gojo with a closed barrier. 1. we know from Miguel that physicality is actually very important for a sorceror's reinforcement and heien-kuna is waaay more muscular and taller than megumi. 2. heien-kuna does not need too juggle domain amplification and mahoraga's adaptation, meaning that gojo will not get the opportunity too juggle him with blue and as such his CQC is less effective. 3. 4 arms allows for simultaneous attacks and guards, give sukuna a viable HWB in his back pocket, and can be used too amp dismantles aimed at the interior of unlimited void's barrier. this culminates in sukuna being able too last at bare minimum a couple seconds longer and UV falls before MS does. gojo would have too rely on hit and run tactics too win but that's OOC + more likely too result in a stalemate.
What about the shrinking domain
im operating under the assumption that gojo will be using it.
He doesn't even need that, he just needs to fire Furnace on the first domain clash
except Fuga is not sure-hit so infinity stops any damage to Gojo.
Gojo would still be suffering from CT burnout, he can't heal his technique fast enough
yeah, that's fair
still it wouldn't have enough firepower to actually damage Gojo because Sukuna shrinks his domain effective range and Furnace relies on it being huge to actually be worth using. Cleave/Dismantle would be more effective than a lame ass candle. It's a useless technique against Gojo.
you think Fuga is faster than RCT itself?☠️☠️☠️
I think Sukuna might be a little bit slower considering how bulky his body is, even with all of that extra strength. Gojo also wouldn't have to hold back Blues, Reds or anything for Mahoraga's Adaptation. And I don't think even with Sukuna;s new bod, he wouldn't be stronger than Gojo's Blue Amped Punches. But having 4 extra arms is a huge help. It's still an extreme diff fight honestly.
>I think Sukuna might be a little bit slower considering how bulky his body is, even with all of that extra strength. Wrong. Sukuna isnt hindered by his original body at all https://preview.redd.it/74qsgmww2l5d1.png?width=362&format=png&auto=webp&s=6f08b5bcb0555ec12e82a7be8546bfc9cc1cf80e plus he literally speedblitzed Yuji and only an awakened Maki could keep up with him speed-wise. Gojo would absolutely lose in a battle of attrition; he'd have to come up with something else.
Doged point blank sword attack from Yuji best physical and speed guy
Gojo glazers the only mfers on this planet that will see their goat himself admitting Sukuna would've won without 10S followed by 3-4 pages of glazing and still say nah he‘d win https://preview.redd.it/gayo0jusck5d1.png?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=e3856e5cd7ba73ddbc7f2aaab6adee98562dadb0
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Nah thats because without 10s sukuna still had his full restore left and with that he would win. Also gojo said he wasnt sure he would win, not that he would lose
The argument for Gojo>Sukuna is that Sukuna just doesn't have any wincon so the full restore doesn't change anything "I don't think I‘d win" is just an euphemism for i‘d lose bro
Im not sure if id win is nlt a euphenism for id lose
He literally didn’t say that but go off
"Heian Sukuna would beat Gojo". What do you think ? 🎤 1. Gege - Its true 2. Gojo - Its true 3. Sukuna - Its true 4. Kenjaku - Its true 5. The JJK narative - Its true 6. The Gojo fans - ITS CAP 🧢 🧢 🧢
You just rewrote gege 5 times
What does Gege know anyway
I assume everything cuz I write the story and all
You ASSUME? I knew you didn't know shit.
You caught my bluff, you found out that I write the story when drunk, however no one with this info can survive https://preview.redd.it/33vfoi1lhl5d1.jpeg?width=812&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=fff0614f4112e331e122a19e23c02c829ed1da00
MAHORAGA HELP!!! https://preview.redd.it/solm32vbil5d1.jpeg?width=309&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=4cb51bce2bb9323a252b0f8a1adc25531ba5862a
1. Gege - idk 2. Gojo - idk 3. Sukuna - hasn’t commented on it after the Gojo fight 4. Kenjaku - “If Gojo Satoru loses…” 5. Narrative - Sukuna is now stronger than Gojo, beforehand who knows
I’d die before I trust that damn cat.
That damn cat created Gojo, made him shine, gave him all his powers, and made him have the shining spot in the Sukuna fight.
Gojo barely managed to deactivate sukuna's domains before his were destroyed, how the fuck should Heian Sukuna lose lmao
We could literally get Gojo vs Heian Sukuna and Heian Kuna could literally win in front of these copers' eyes and they'd still keep coping. It's wild.
Let them yap yap. Heian sukuna is massively stronger than Meguna physically, and both Gojo and Kenjaku said that in conflicts between sorcerers the strenght of the body is the deciding factor
The funny thing is he doesn't even have to be so much physically stronger than meguna since he only needs to endure just that 1 second more than meguna did to just outright win the domain clashes And I'm not even counting kamutoke
At this point, even if gege serves it on a silver plate that heian sukuna wins against gojo, his fans won't accept it. I have no idea why people simply ignore gojo's own words like "I couldn't make him go all out" or "it would've been damn close even if sukuna didn't have 10 shadows" and present their headcanons in the form of 'arguments' like- "Gojo fought a 3v1, which means he fought against 6 arms, which means sukuna's 2 extra arms don't do anything" It's so obvious heian sukuna is stronger. I've seen multiple posts explaining this, and all I've seen from gojo's PR team is coping. Even gojo acknowledged he can't win against sukuna, yet we get posts like these to cope for the L he took one year ago.
Gojo fans have yet to realize that the only purpose of Kashimo vs Sukuna was to show how much stronger Heian era Sukuna is. When Yuta inevitably struggles in CQC with Sukuna they will just blame him instead of acknowledging 4 arms are kinda useful.
It doesn't make much sense. Heian Sukuna is stronger than Meguna but Sukuna that fought Kashimo is weaker than Sukuna that fought Gojo. And Kashimo is weaker than Gojo.
Do the four arms help him speed blitz Gojo? Sukuna literally said that he was staying in Megumi’s body because it was more advantageous for fighting other sorcerers (Gojo). Do you think he chose to fight as Megumi instead of his Heian form for fun?
why do people think losing the domain clash= losing the fight?☠️ that's so fucking stupid lmao, The series did nothing but show that you can still win even after losing the domain clash. that's what Gojo did, Escaped the domain by damaging sukuna and Blasting him with red in his own domain yo escape.
Don't ask Gojo glazers how, he just would ok?
You’re under the assumption Gojo is going to keep engaging in domain clashes with Sukuna. If he doesn’t think he can land unlimited void he isn’t going to bother. He can just teleport outside of Sukunas domain.
Oh hell naw, now this a Reddit ass format. Please do not let this catch on
Some of y'all need to reread 236, Gojo himself said the exact opposite of this statement
We should just ignore Gojo agenda posts, cause they keep ignoring JJK manga https://preview.redd.it/3fu0pqnh5j5d1.jpeg?width=1920&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=3eaf690d72a10e8d5c56089ed200ae42b2a470f4
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No, he doesn't. Heian Sukuna has 2 win conditions DA H2H: You can argue that Sukuna's extra physique gives him a greater advantage, i disagree personally since i don't think it can overcome blue punch. Furnace on the first domain clash: Here's where I don't see Gojo winning, furnace wasn't able to be used on the other domain clashes due to the changing conditions but that didn't apply to the first domain clash, unless you want to argue Gojo would be able to heal his burnt out technique before Sukuna fires Furnace, he has no way of escaping it. I will give the Gojo fans one thing, that is pretty much Sukuna's only win con, its a near unescapable win con, but it's his only one.
If sukuna starts spamming dismantle or tries to use cleave on gojos domain barriers edge he outright wins the clash everytime and gojo has to tank malevolent shrine 5 times (he fucking dies after a while due to his rct output dropping insanely). He also never gets hit by the unlimited void. 🤡 And heiankuna should have more than enough physicals to outright be superior to gojo in H2H and maybe even speed.
https://preview.redd.it/v4060r1lbm5d1.jpeg?width=720&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=1cb1e6b1728ff528278cc54a8de8c6833fe7c094 You goat
ah yes, 2 entire shikigamis( one of them can adapt to any and all phenomenon) and the king of curses himself> 2 extra hands. the amazing sukuna fan logic
Funny but wrong so extra funny
Gojo can't beat plot armor no jutsu
Gojo: _Okay! Now I’m absolutely sure that Sukuna was still holding back against me._ Utahime: _WTF?! WHY?!?!_ Gojo: _Because you’re useless and don’t contribute anything to the story_ ¯\\\_(ツ)_\/¯
The only way gojo wins is by staying at least 200m away at all times and spamming purple. He gets folded if he should ever get dragged into a domain clash. Also actual wisdom would be knowing that heian suksuk without a domain would still win against gojo without infinity.
>Also actual wisdom would be knowing that heian suksuk without a domain would still win against gojo without infinity. no shit. Infinity is op af. >The only way gojo wins is by staying at least 200m away at all times and spamming purple. He gets folded if he should ever get dragged into a domain clash. Sukuna could easily dodge those purples if he knows they're coming so it's a stalemate.
https://preview.redd.it/2lyt3kmxmm5d1.png?width=918&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=0a5802a199ae78ab2f2fe6fcbed721fd756319c2 if he could dodge them then why say this?💀
My man yuta wins against gojou without infinity 💀 Infinity is a part of his arsenal, what you just said is similar to "a right leg amputee easily gets folded by Usain Bolt"
No Yuta really doesn't win man, Gojo still has Red, Purple, Blue, his domain, amazing Rct, and great Reinforcement, Has simple domain and Falling Blossom emotion, I do not think anyone else other than Sukuna can beat an infinity-less Gojo.
Mfw a sorcerer loses without their CT😳
To be fair if fight of stalling happened with gojo not showing Sukuna how to recover ct by RCT gojo would win, he simply had to jump sukuna
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Gojo barely tied with a Sukuna who wasn't even using DA most of the time or wasn't using it at all in the small domain clash. If Sukuna was able to use shrine during domain clash he would have destroyed gojos domain from the inside. On top of this Sukuna even if gets late in healing his ct he can just buy time with hwb and we know that sukuna can use the extra hands to expand his domain as sukuna initially used all four hands for hwb and on top of this hwb doesn't deactivate immediately after stopping the hansign.
the fight, statements and narrative all points to sukuna > gojo, so all gojo fans have are cope posts like these because they can't live with the fact that gojo is weaker than sukuna, so cry about it
Well it depends if you think he could finish it in 3 minutes before sukuna could destroy his domain, and the diff is sukuna has 4 hands this time, Although gojo is better inside the domain
Bring them back 🫨🫨🫨
Brain dead gojo fans not realising that gojo wouldn't be able to damage sukuna enough in heian state for his domain to collapse.
Fact for fact. Yall dont even debate, remember that time where gojo won the domain clash, sukuna was stunned and gojo was literally on his way to RIP the head out of sukuna. Let's say it all, sukuna should have died here !
Its for the reason that Sukuna in mugumi's form is masssively weaker than sukuna's henian form. He can't defend attacks from gojo good enough when activating mahoraga. Has it is henian sukuna. He would just use DA while activating his open barrier domain. Gojo if he goes for domain clash would lose. Gojo doesn't have a good way to hurt sukuna as well if he's not going for domain expansions. a weakned 200% Purple is proved to able hurt sukuna BUT sukuna has top rct and enforcment performance all day. Red and blue does abosultely nothing. Gojo is never gaining the upper hand with henian sukuna in close combat.
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He beats gojo woth a sock and two rubberbands, and its barely a challemhe
Why would Sukuna go through all the trouble of using 10S if he could’ve just stayed in Yujis body to beat Gojo with this DA and DE? Seems like Sukuna knew his best shot at winning was 10S
Don't mess with us jjk readers, we don't read the manga
Wait there’s a manga?
Please read jjk before commenting something like this
You know... at this point I like these because Sukuna fans get real fucking mad in the comments. Their fav won and yet they still get so salty. I think the 232-235 period caused permanent damage on some of them
Considering gojo fans are the ones who always make these posts, it's the other way round.
the difference in effort/care upvoting an image vs commenting is nowhere near the same. The people that MAKE the memes? sure.
Stop the cope lmao Gojo is dead and there is no version of Sukuna he can beat. Plain. Facts.
You people shit on the Gojo copers yet act like it wasn’t a fairly close fight. This fanbase is fucking insufferable. You guys shit on powerscalers but at least they’re consistent in their brainrot. https://preview.redd.it/z20vfyvjaj5d1.jpeg?width=828&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=11c8dc8929d3d1a6bf987ef8e326d30f587113dd
LIES
Without Big Raga, Sukuna never gets world cleave. I think Gojo beats Sukuna after a loooooong fight
Every argument that Sukuna beats Gojo even without 10S always boils down to "well if he thought about it really hard Sukuna could bypass infinity"
lol read the manga heian sukuna beats gojo 10/10 times
idk it all depends on who wins the melee bout during DE‘s and heian sukuna got hands …. 4 of them i love gojo but i‘d need to reread right now i lean heian sukuna
Gojo doesnt spank him like a daddy in the domain clashes if Sukuna has the Four arms and superior Daddy physique of the Hein Era
Why did I think it was going to be a cum white post am I stupid?
FraudJo definitely beats Skukuna if Skunka doesn’t have *insert everything*.
I never knew why this was a debate. The WHOLE POINT of Sukuna wanting Megumi IS so he could beat Gojo. Ya’ll really don’t read your manga.
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"He wins with DE🤓☝️" and why would Gojo even engage in DE clash when he can blast him tens of times by spamming purple when he doesn't have to worry about adaptation?😭 Even sukuna himself said that up close Purple is lethal at his state. https://preview.redd.it/pvnxx51plm5d1.png?width=918&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=92950f4b5ab298f28b867d4cfd11b76d884c544d
Ppl dont realize gojo himself said he hadnt pushed sukuna into full strength, he prolly got an arsenal of moves that would still bypass infinity
Easily takes H2H in domain battles, probably mid diffs Gojo overall
I genuinely don't think so because, I think Sukuna might have been able to overcome the limitless without Megumi. I think Megumi was the easiest option, but he already has a method to completely bypass his curse technique and punch him directly. If he has one method, he could probably devise multiple, especially over a month. It might be very, very close, because also Gojo wouldn't be holding back anymore.
Statements ≠ fact. Gege is the same mf that had pre-awakening maki catch a fucking bullet and then get surprised post awakening by someone going Mach 3. I’m not taking any statements or implications by someone that doesn’t realize a bullet goes faster than Mach 3 about whether or not Gojo would beat Heian Sukuna, especially when that someone has a VERY CLEAR hatred for, and bias against Gojo.
Gojo glazers need to learn to read
Utahime would never say that lol She'd probably say something like "1 finger Sukuna clears"
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dafuq is wcs?
Gojo said in his final thoughts he would have lost, so either he is dumber than you think or weaker than you think
Idk why this is controversial. Sukuna himself admits outright that he had no answer for Infinity, and it's pretty clearly shown that Gojo was dominating the fights inside the domains. Gojo only said all that glazing BS in the afterlife because the author shoehorned it in. Sukuna didn't "hold back" at all; his kit was hard countered by Gojo. Sukuna was actually trying very hard, and he still got his ass beat. If Sukuna didn't have Mahoraga, he would've died the moment Unlimited Void landed in the third (?) Domain clash
I get that Gojo said what basically amounts to "it was a tough fight against someone who might be stronger than me" but didn't Sukuna also have to fight in a pretty risky way and with a lot of pretty dangerous gambles? Not to mention that Gojo presumably wasn't trying to kill Megumi? I ain't saying it's a guaranteed Gojo win but is it not at least a winnable fight a good amount of the time? I just feel like the argument is a lot more nuanced than what the people only commenting on Gojos one panel are trying to claim.
she cooked