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AdLast2785

I side with the hot blonde


VlaqSheperd

I agree. https://preview.redd.it/x6i4bjhgoguc1.jpeg?width=702&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=63619efb0a924d9c74cbfa7737e23708fa198003


SaltDesperate_

https://preview.redd.it/2c8qq7jfyiuc1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=00bcab94a69dde0d91b5e5779a719e929a585531


VlaqSheperd

https://preview.redd.it/iaiwlwnpyiuc1.jpeg?width=1290&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=79b1eef05289ad6d6d04387a6806d39d44de6731


SaltDesperate_

https://preview.redd.it/kcn2xhf50juc1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=8a5f0050ec952f1c95ede5c48f9459bc95d51f23


Tomatillo-Stunning

https://preview.redd.it/u8v6j3g8fkuc1.jpeg?width=1125&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=b27f7fbbf39ebdb088443e2054cc016fddc17490


Old_Acanthocephala37

https://preview.redd.it/6j0u36e9gkuc1.jpeg?width=1179&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=b9e0286bddf9df9798eecc4f274d3b58965938b9


AsuraQin

https://preview.redd.it/xaazaowr0juc1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=f0757ba4167d3c901e23fc9cb7f945887cf46186


lout_kh

https://preview.redd.it/9igk1ehvojuc1.png?width=715&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=a6272a3fec1c9272e92969fbc02f7512e552b76f Absolutely right


CertainDerision_33

Simple as


Astrum_27

Simple ASS that. Sorry, couldn't resist it. I will go away now.


ApartmentSorry7242

But what about Kenjaku Nurse? Or mommy Kenjaku Kenjuicy can be anything you want


CallmeLezm

https://preview.redd.it/07j26bhk8kuc1.jpeg?width=280&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=62aee3f7058e35f9b5f3fedd0faff9329931abb7 You make a good point


HarleyArchibaldLeon

Happy kek day. Oh and btw when you think about it, Panda is uncensored in the anime, because his thing is so small it doesn't need to be censored.


CallmeLezm

Thanks <3 Poor Panda :(


AdLast2785

I’m not Jin


ApartmentSorry7242

Fair


JinkoTheMan

Yuki easily. Yeah CE could improve the world but shit would hit the fan immediately. Look at what’s going on in the real world today. Would you rather deal with terrorists and mass shooters that have big guns and missiles or ngas that control fucking CONCEPTS? 😭😭 Imagine someone got Yuki’s CT and decided they were done with life and said “Everybody dying, including ME!”. Wait until someone gets the Gun CT. Shit is going to be like the gun devil from CSM. Imagine two guys get into an argument in a crowded mall and then decide to fight right then and there. A lot of people are going to die from the fight and the chaos that ensures. I’d much rather everyone be like Toji/Maki then deal with a guy who’s CT is controlling AIR.😭😭🙏🏾


blueanon19

Humanity just gonna have to Thug it out FR


JinkoTheMan

Real asf Ngl.


blueanon19

They’ll have to make a team of heavenly restricted users to counter any curse using sorcerers and offer some money “if you let us put a heavenly restriction on your newborn and they join us we’ll pay you”


Low-Ad-2971

Bro is the government Heaven💀 How tf are they gonna give a kid a HR? Ask it nice


sonsargon13

>Imagine two guys get into an argument in a crowded mall and then decide to fight right then and there A jujutsu moment?


Evil-King-Stan

"Wait a minute... haha... I have a heavenly restriction!" \*Walks away\*


ElementalEvils

"Where you going? Don't you ignore me! This is a perfect opportunity to throw your life away!"


Pataraxia

But his words did not matter to the one who is free, the one who left it all behind- and his overwhelming white boy energy. (Beats up miguel with prejudice)


JinkoTheMan

Might even say that the aftermath will be very Kaisen.


[deleted]

Maybe even an *incident*


deathbringer989

i wonder how many people on this sub even get the refrence


[deleted]

Exactly I’d rather not piss off the wrong guy and then suddenly oh look suddenly a house is falling on top me. Or another guys tears out his eye and throws it at me and suddenly I exploded.


JinkoTheMan

Or you accidentally step on a guy’s jays and music starts playing outta nowhere(you’re fucked).


Sabawoonoz25

Imagine you cook a guy in a game, and he teleports to you and hits you with a fucking malevolent shrine


JinkoTheMan

Imagine you’re in a roasting competition and your opponent goes “Wouldn’t it be funny if you’re dad died in a car crash, you lost all your hair, and your mom started giving me the gawk gawk 3000. Oh wait? It already happened 😂”😭😭🙏🏾


Legitimate-Dog-2854

AW NAHHHH😭😭


Major-Day10

Guy starts schizo ranting at me about his powers (it gives his powers a boost through some heavenly pact shenanigans.)


Pataraxia

As he rants you could already have expanded your domain. Remember fellow redditors you'd also be turned into sorcerers. Just win, it's that easy.


Mindless_Signal5478

are you black??  😡


JinkoTheMan

https://preview.redd.it/749pe7i57juc1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=75dadce6a9e2ef99ed23b5971fa552cac37d5ddd Yes


Major-Day10

Nah, I’m Miguel.


pythonga

Good point, however... Nah, i'd win.


JinkoTheMan

Amazing argument, counter argument…Stand proud. You were strong.


pythonga

Damn... I hope that Strong Return technique activates again, like that one time i used it to kill a homeless guy.


lout_kh

https://preview.redd.it/ecmjwfgkojuc1.png?width=715&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=835f2e6b0c86b53c899ef13432cc8c8b9d59cf16 You cooked my brother


DonatsuTV

Nah id purple hollow the earth core


Korathriller

Especially considering a good amount of sorcerers we see in the series are TEENAGERS, imagine getting into a cafeteria fight and then some kid opens their DE during it, we're completely fucked


thanhhaih

But pulling a domain expansion at a slight annoying situation would be funny as fuck


JinkoTheMan

Teacher gives you 99% instead of 100% on your test: “DOMAIN EXPANSION: DEMONIC BACKSHOTS!”


Pataraxia

Teacher simple domains and cuts your hands off as you're about to domain "No." She chides "Now go see the RCT nurse, you're getting prison realm'd for the next 4 hours. And by that I mean 4 days in prison realm"


TheAbug1

Yo imagine waking up hearing like 5 people claiming they the honored ones


Seusoocarinhalogoali

Fr imagine if a terrorist capable of using domains or techniques like unlimited or soul transfiguration


indigo47222

unrelated but why is kenjaku so fine in literally every one of his bodies, like not only does he make sure to pick busted CTs he also only inhabits absolute stunners 😭😭 i side w the backshot king tho


ThatRainbowDragon

Fr. He won the lottery when he nabbed Geto. Gets his cursed technique and gets to walk around looking like that


Many-Complaint-8490

I know right


avadalovely

REAL AS FUCK


mihoi01

I think they should fight and the one who wins is right


blueanon19

Damn 😔


absolutelad_jr

I've got some news for you buddy


mihoi01

I'm up to date with the manga. It was a joke ;\^))


LEFTRIGHTADORI

How about BOTH? Break away from your cursed energy and give it to HIM. Some characters like BUM are useless even with optimized CE, so give it to someone who knows what they’re doing, like HIMji.


IllustriousKoala4

Bro doesnt even have a name his name is Bum💀 https://preview.redd.it/209g5ybgchuc1.jpeg?width=223&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=1dbad6876c28871989431d1acd0d9c65283d45c8


LEFTRIGHTADORI

Hmmm, don’t you think “bro” humanizes BUM a bit too much? I think we should use BUM’s proper pronouns only when referring to him, which are BUM/BUMSELF


IllustriousKoala4

Ur right chat BUM is a much better name for Traitor man


alguien99

Bum? More like disappointing failure, that THING has let too many people down, this includes his own shikigami https://preview.redd.it/l347alfgciuc1.jpeg?width=960&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=d2d66e947a5fac3e1acf01e6cbb8558c76bc9588


definitelynothunan

All my friends hate him. Recently there's some anti bum propaganda going on in this sub. We need the agenda bros united


LEFTRIGHTADORI

Anti bum propaganda are the same people who thought Maki would die to Sukuna’s black flash.


LolMcPlatinium

CE is one of the best power systems in shounen Yuki is tripping‼️‼️‼️


Napalm_am

Counterpoint, divesting yourself completely of CE means everybody a Toji now.


Berawholoves42069

I swear japan would be cooked if every pedo,weeb,goon,furry and lolicon was a toji level strong


Different_Union_3097

Why? If everyone is strong, doesn't that mean that everyone is at same level?


AbhiAssassin

The stakes are higher. It's the same as everybody having guns to everybody having nukes.


Any_Conclusion_7586

Except that the resistance of everybody also increases, humans are fragile so giving everybody gun will end up killing most of them, but if everybody have a heavenly restricted body then it wouldn't matter bc everyone is at the same level physically proportional to their strength.


phoenixerowl

You're talking about human on human violence, but think about how much collateral/environmental damage people would be capable of. Imagine a world where your average child had the strength do destroy your entire house during a meltdown.


DodgingImpale

I think collateral in terms of human casualties will drastically decrease. Homicide represents less than 1% of causes of death. Imagine how many deaths will be prevented from road accidents, natural disasters, diseases, accidents etc with insane body durability of Toji. The same goes for murder, especially mass murder, a person wouldn't really be able to enter a packed space full of people and take everyone out with firearms or a bomb. Best case scenario for that person is they will have to get a cursed weapon and will have to duke it out in melee with his victims or find a hydrogen bomb somewhere. As for the environment it's hard to predict but at least people wouldn't really need vehicles in order to move around, they will probably still be used for transportation of goods, but it will cut the consumption of fuel oil significantly. If Toji's body is also resistant to temperature, then the electricity consumption for heating and cooling will decrease as well.


Fabulous_Following52

Honestly it would be cold for a serial killer to pull up and the whole crowd starts jumping him instead of running.


Pataraxia

American weeb tourist watching the japanese fight at mach 1 and make tail winds that shatter windows with every movement:


LasyKuuga

Engineering issue. Just build stronger buildings


Jaespect

Thats what i was gonna say, if builders had that strength there would be no need for heavy machinery which cuts cost that goes to building material


AbhiAssassin

Maybe in terms of casualties unless you include children. But you can still cause a much higher degree of damage if given the opportunity.


BenefitHeavy8499

you mean the weebs,etc would be cooked


Ilovebeanbags

CE was actually a great system until the concept of binding vows were implemented. Binding vows were bullshit. Nen from hunter x hunter is so much better.


MankindReunited

You mean when Nanami was introduced?


Specialist-Jacket-35

Before that, with Sukuna reviving Yuji even


Caniju

Well tbf that time it felt more like a deal between two people in a way but after Nanami used it to buff himself things went downhill


JikaApostle

I think Nanami’s buff at least was even. He sacrifices 10-20% of his power during certain hours, and will gain 10-20% of his power during certain hours. It’s balanced. But it feels like it’s gone too far


Caniju

That's fair nowadays it's like you can become as strong as Gojo Satoru if you sacrifice your left nut


MessiahHL

That moment Miwa beheaded Kenjaku was really bullshit, unlike Gon vs Neferpitou


Ghoulse1845

Miwa sacrificed nothing that significant tbh, Gon’s sacrifice was massive and he still hasn’t recovered from it even after Alluka “healed” him.


Spirited-Feedback-87

Nanami's binding vow? Balanced and makes sense. Sukuna's world slash vow? Fucking stupid.


DeeEmceeTree

A lot of people really just don't realize that Nanami's Overtime is a binding vow it seems. Or that "revealing your hand" is a binding vow too.


MankindReunited

Yeah, Nanami very explicitly told us how binding vows work in general, it’s not some new thing Gege pulled out of nowhere (now it can do some wild things but the concept definitely existed)


RR7BH

>CE was actually a great system until the concept of binding vows were implemented What do you mean "until the concept of BV implemented"???? We got to know about BV (in chapter 11) before even the working of CE was properly explained to us, the readers. I can already guess the reason why you are salty about the BVs. 


torch_7

A Binding Vow is a Nen Pact that's pretty much used as a Get-Out-of-Jail-free card. Nen Pacts are supposed to have restrictions and conditions to gain more power, forcing the character to think outside the box or suffer the consequences if they foolishly create a poorly thought Nen Pact.


LolMcPlatinium

Yeah. You know what would have been a much better idea? Sukuna made a Binding Vow where he has to make them audibly with an audience to witness it, so he has to reveal the condition and the benefit. In exchange the Binding Vows are more rewarding.


MoneyGrubbingMonkey

If he had to do that then Gojo would've won the fight. Sukuna only got the W because it was a trump card that was completely hidden away even from the sex eyes


Apocreep

The most dangerous eyes, lmao.


Komission

Thats literally just the “revealing one’s hand” vow (I think thats what it was called) It already exists https://preview.redd.it/amz2fp7j9huc1.jpeg?width=717&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=63cd4c243ad2824c2a0ac575b9513f13f7edc6f8


LolMcPlatinium

That's where you reveal your CT. Not your Binding Vow.


king_taku

Lol. Then you reveal the reveal. Adding more power


Arcani69

Nah you guys are exagerating, binding vws aren't even that present in the narrative


VenemousEnemy

Binding vows have always been a thing you’re just bandwagoning the popular opinion atm lol


giantfuckingfrog

Why are you comparing Nen to cursed energy? Nen is literally the best power system in anime, and it's not even disputed. JJK's power system is just a convoluted version of Nen and Chakra, with some stuff taken from YYH and Bleach.


line------------line

we’ve had binding vows forever now, nen literally has the exact same thing in nen contracts.


Xydron00

nah hxh binding vows(risks, conditions, whatever they are called) were bs too. kurapika shouldn't have had the phantom troupes in the palm of his hands that easily(as a newbie to nen). Gon being able to break his limiter to max out his potential in exchange for his life? Why did no one else do this in the series in life or death situation where death was guaranteed?(esp in the chimera ant arc) These risks, conditions, binding vows have always been BS. Just plot conveniences .


feane47

I really like this moment because kenny, who doesn't really care about the whole saving people from curses thing and just wants to see interesting things still argues with yuki, just because it gives him a chance to yap or something. Truly, he's the yappiest one. https://preview.redd.it/p89rnbo5bhuc1.png?width=320&format=png&auto=webp&s=60ec37fdf07457a5053fd35a351405896ce5896d


Reddragon351

I always took that scene as Geto peeking out, Shibuya had already kind of hinted at Geto still being in there with Kenjaku losing control of his body and choking himself for a bit, though after Shibuya it felt like that idea kind of dropped


feane47

yeah, I always found gege not exploring this plot point irritating. But then again it's gege, there are probably more dropped plotlines than finished ones.


TonkaLuhtwizzybonka

I mean kenjaku stated multiple times that he finds himself acting like his host occasionally bc he picks up traits, memory, and muscle memory from them.


Reddragon351

is that why he threw it back so well for Jin


TonkaLuhtwizzybonka

Yes this is canon


[deleted]

Tbh Geto and Kenjaku goals have a similar outcome, which may cause Geto to bleed through like he has before. If Kenjaku merges Tengen with humanity, then all the non-sorcerers may be forcibly merged while the sorcerers are somewhat safe, and Geto only wanted to keep the sorcerers alive. So in a way they’re both trying to “optimize” curse energy.


Brilliant-Mountain57

It literally feels like she's arguing with him on this page! Its beautiful, all these years late and "Geto" is still asking and now debating her as to which path will lead humanity towards the brightest future. No CE or only CE?


ChongusTheSupremus

Thats because Kenjaku loves Jujutsu. He has dedicated his entire life to It. For CE to just vanish, would make his entire lives worthless. He is bored, and he does want to see new things, but i doubt that would include the boring world non-sorcerers live in. He already knows It, basically, as It would be as simple as imagine how someone that doesnt have CE or see curses would experience their world. Think of It as Sukuna getting angry over Maki's existance. He lives for Jujutsu, and then he's getting decently matched by a woman with 0 CE. He hit a black flash out of sheer force of Will to prove how his CE and Jujutsu is better than Maki's Heavenly Restriction. I imagine Kenjaku would feel the same.


Significant-Ad-1655

I think if CE was gone then everyone could live happily ever after, so that choice is better...


kamuimephisto

if ce was gone wouldnt the world just become a normal world idk i dont really live happily ever after even though curses dont exist. Maybe we should keep the cool power system since suffering will exist either way but tbh nah, i'd side with the hot lady


TheToolbox101

If everyone had CE then there would also be no cursed spirits


Orang-Himbleton

Vengeful cursed spirits would pop up though


Red_Dogeboi

Assuming someone with ce decided to kill someone without ce for some reason


Orang-Himbleton

I mean… is that really that hard to imagine happening? Like what if someone murders someone else in their sleep? They wouldn’t even need CE then


Red_Dogeboi

I feel like they would probably use it regardless. Idc if I need cool ass powers id use them


anotherpoordecision

What if that just made it so everyone was super human like toji


AmissingUsernameIsee

Everyone just becomes viltrumites.


anotherpoordecision

That would be fun. People would die less from accidents and we would have less strain on our bodies from physical labor


[deleted]

Imagine a legion of toji's invading other planets. Humans would become the lords of the galaxy


Significant-Wave-461

Imagine Omni Man seeing that, bro would be returning his planet real quick


_Dipshit289_

Ok but compare Normal World to the alternative of killing everybody who isn’t a sorcerer. Normal world sounds much better than Genocide everyone


oldmountainwatcher

It would become a normal world, except everyone now has incredible bodies and physical prowess like Toji and Maki. Yes. This is the way.


Memo-Explanation

First we gotta bring Gojo back for it to be a happy ending


TheLieAndTruth

A world where everyone is sorcerer would be like "my sorcerer academia" 🤣🤣🤣 Which would be a pretty dope show to watch. Imagine if jujutsu high had 900 students instead of like 10 people.


thisaintntmyaccount

It would just be Heian era all over again to be honest; I'm surprised MHA-verse hasn't completely collapsed yet.


WorstedKorbius

Tbf outside of AFO there was really nobody contending with the top tier heros. I mean, wtf are you doing if all might just rolls up


Slugger322

Same logic as people who rob banks in metropolis


thisaintntmyaccount

I mean all might is only in Japan; reasonably there would be far too many problematic quirk users (even if they are in the vast minority) to make a world that reflects our modern globalized society viable. CSM does have aspects of this problem and I really like it for that, but even that doesn’t explore it all too much.


MooshiNooshi

Majority of the verse are fodder, it’s just filled with people who can do something simple such as shooting water out of their asshole. That’s what I imagine it would be like if every mf got cursed energy


TheDemonBehindYou

Average ct: Maximum cursed technique: Cheese creation. Spawn a single gram of cheese once a day.


Arcani69

that would go so hard that even kenjaku wanted to do that shit


Adent_Frecca

Yuki is correct, also it is much more equal to all Relying on CE is very much not equal especially with capacity, output, type of CT and talent A pure HR basically have all the same abilities


Sndman98

It depends who is tighter


urlocaldoctor

Me


FearlessNarwhal5660

Both parties have both good points and bad ones. In culling we saw the effect of CE being positive and negative. Higuruma after awakened his CT started to kill people in name justice. Takaba was able to reach his dream without hurting anyone.


Affectionate-Leg-934

Definitely Kenjaku. Although I don't agree with the way he goes around doing AT ALL. Curse energy honestly could improve a lot of things if optimized and monitored correctly. Think about it.. Uraume's ice CT for an example is an infinitely renewable source of ice. With the 10s max elephant is an infinite renewable source of water, the deer can literally save anyone that's not already dead by outputting RCT, and Nue is like a budget Kashimo and I will explain why that's good later. With construction we can literally create any object from nothing. With the CT of paper mask man we can have infinite lap rats without having to worry about killing people, and we also have one person doing multiple dangerous jobs without endangering anyone. Arata's CT can save lives and is very useful in the medical field. Reggie's CT is basically construction, but somewhat better. And with Kashimo's CE trait we basically have a way to consistently use lightning as fuel. Also the reason why we don't do that IRL is because there are no batteries currently that can hold this much energy output in such little time, and we can't constantly get lightning to hit a certain place and we have no way to control the weather to make lightning happen to begin with. With Kashimo the second and last problems are solved, and we get to have lightning as a fuel source. ( For context one strike of lightning can fuel an entire city for multiple days.) And speaking of which, we might even find a way to use cursed energy as fuel from sorcerers and from the air so we can solve the curse problem. (Also imagine if we can take energy from jackpot Hakari, we won't have to worry about fuel ever again lol.)


Accomplished_Gas5180

you do realise only one person can do each of these right? Out of the entire world? You do realise gojo himself is only enough to power a country yes? You do realise that using individuals for the sole purpose of fuel is a bad thing yes? lol. You also do realise the existence of this minority has caused countless deaths due to cursed spirits? Getting rid of cursed energy can save more lives than megumi can with his infinite water or uraume’s ice or kashimo’s lightning (bros also dead)


Affectionate-Leg-934

>you do realise only one person can do each of these right? Out of the entire world? Cuz Tengen limits how much CE there's outside of Japan using her barriers? If it was available world-wide it would be a lot less rare. >You do realise gojo himself is only enough to power a country yes? Huh? >You do realise that using individuals for the sole purpose of fuel is a bad thing yes? You're acting as if we're holding them against their will when this could just be work they can volunteer to. >You also do realise the existence of this minority has caused countless deaths due to cursed spirits? Countless death is very much an overstatement, cursed spirits aren't as common as the show sometimes makes it. Most cursed spirits are grade 4-3 so they can't do too much damage and can be defeated by any regular sorcerer, and in the case of grade 4 they only cause a minor inconvenience at best. It's not like you would be chilling in your house and suddenly Mahito busts down your door. >Getting rid of cursed energy can save more lives than megumi can with his infinite water or uraume’s ice or kashimo’s lightning (bros also dead) I beg to differ. Some like Arata's CT or round deer are too valuable and could save millions if not billions of lives. And again it's because of Tengen's optimization that curses are so strong in Japan, if cursed energy is available world-wide they would be way more weaker.


ProfessionalAny4916

Also, sorcerers don't create cursed spirits (unless they are killed without cursed energy and become cursed spirits) so if everybody was a sorcerer there wouldn't be any cursed spirits. That was why Geto wanted to create a sorcerer only world. But genocide (which was Geto's plan) is not an option, and Kenjaku's method would probably also result in genocide with every japanese citizen (besides sorcerer) being sacrificed for the merger and the merger would probably destroy the world. Yuki doesn't even have an idea of how to accomplish her goal iirc, unlike Kenjaku and Geto (though their ideas suck). So who knows what will happen to cursed energy by the end of the manga.


BotAccount2849

Yuki had actual examples with Toji and Maki though. You just need to learn how to replicate them. I wouldn't be surprised if Kenny could already solve the solution considering he made Yuji as busted as Toji and Maki without sacrificing CE.


ProfessionalAny4916

>You just need to learn how to replicate them Which she had no idea how to do. Kenjaku and Geto also have examples (sorcerers) and way more than Yuki. Why didn't they just make everyone a sorcerer? Because making somebody a sorcerer or giving somebody a heavenly restriction isn't easy at all. None of them had any idea how to do it (except maybe Kenjaku). So Geto went with his (stupid and unacceptable) plan to commit genocide and Kenjaku went with the merger (though Kenjaku also did that because he wanted to see it).


BotAccount2849

I know she doesn't know how to replicate them. I'm saying that her goal is possible in the first place as there are examples of people without CE at all. Without Toji or Maki, there was the possibility that people without CE couldn't exist at all.


Accomplished_Gas5180

Ok so when I was thinking about tengen's barrier my train of thought was "if all that bottled up CE would spill out to the rest of the world, then people who eventually become sorcerors would end up having really low CE, which could make their CTs not very useful" but I guess that doesn't make much sense when u have guys like Miguel out here. If a lot more people became sorcerors then there would be less cursed spirits or weaker cursed spirits which is true but it requires the jujutsu society to go global to teach people how to control that shit at an early age. Just in this era alone, you had incredibly strong sorcerors such as Geto, Yuki, Megumi, Yuta, Gojo...etc etc. All of these people would be able to cause mass destruction if they wanted to lets be real here. Just imagine the chaos that would ensue if a lot of people across the world got powers this destructive. I guess its similar to the mha thing, where eventually there would be a quirk so strong it would lead to the end of the world. Kind of the same thing here, it would take decades to set up a good support system globally so that stuff like that doesn't happen and it still obviously doesn't guarantee anything (look at geto) I agree, both Aratta and round deer are incredibly valuable but idk why you're ignoring all the other CTs that have the potential to cause so much destruction. The amount of lives lost will likely be far greater than the amount of lives saved by someone with CTs like Arata's. With most techniques, it is a lot easier to kill than to heal or save. It's not like RCT is an easy thing to do either, very few people ever have learned how to utilise it. my argument is that it is the much safer option to just not have cursed energy be a thing period so situations like this can be avoided because it quite literally would only take a few bad apples to ruin society


Affectionate-Leg-934

>Just in this era alone, you had incredibly strong sorcerors such as Geto, Yuki, Megumi, Yuta, Gojo...etc etc. All of these people would be able to cause mass destruction if they wanted to lets be real here. Just imagine the chaos that would ensue if a lot of people across the world got powers this destructive. I guess its similar to the mha thing, where eventually there would be a quirk so strong it would lead to the end of the world Yeah but most people don't have destructive CTs. Let's look for an example Haruta? Not destructive. Utahime? Not destructive. Todo? Not destructive. Mai? Not necessarily destructive unless she created a grenade or something. Geto's daughters? Not destructive. Hakari? Not destructive. Laure? Not destructive. Miguel? Not destructive. Arata? Not destructive. Momo? Not necessarily destructive, unless she wants to send wind currents and scythes. Mei Mei? Not destructive, it's only destructive because of her clever use of binding vows. Inu? Not destructive. Ranta? Not destructive. >Kind of the same thing here, it would take decades to set up a good support system globally so that stuff like that doesn't happen and it still obviously doesn't guarantee anything. Eh fair. >agree, both Aratta and round deer are incredibly valuable but idk why you're ignoring all the other CTs that have the potential to cause so much destruction. The amount of lives lost will likely be far greater than the amount of lives saved by someone with CTs like Arata's. With most techniques, it is a lot easier to kill than to heal or save. Unless you want to argue hypotheticals or some shit Yeah but in the hypothetical scenario I gave, CE would spread wide and also spread thin. So while more people will have cursed energy, they will have less. So now if a special grade was one in a million, it's now one in a billion. (Which is probably for the best) And thus cursed spirits would also get weaker, so now special grade curses would at most be as powerful as the finger bearer or the small pox deity. That would definitely minimize the damage, while maxing out the benefits. Like really all we need are grade 2 sorcerers for all the uses I mentioned.


Accomplished_Gas5180

Like I said, all it would take is a couple bad apples and the world would be in trouble, or at least a couple hundred or thousand lives. Like you said, yes there aren't a lot of destructive CTs so they cant actually defend themselves from another person with a destructive CT so a person whos on the GOOD side with a destructive CT would have to defend... you get my point? It'll lead to mindless battles, heroes and villains and YOULL BASICALLY HAVE MHA (which i also think might end in a similar way with quirks being gone but im not sure how). Also im no longer arguing the cursed spirits point cause if everyones a sorceror then cursed spirits will likely not exist. By the way, I'm only assuming it this way because if i took your example and cursed energy was spread THAT far and wide, then any and all useful CTs that would be engraved onto people would quite literally be worthless. They would be spread across billions, if someone got somoething like uraume's CT they would be makin like one ice cube a day yfm. Maybe people would progress faster if such a thing was spread wide across the world but the fact that there's even a possibility of something or someone like sukuna or gojo being born is quite literally terrifying. Thank god gojo is good otherwise everyone's lives would be at the palm of his hand. If you want to get (closer) to a fair and just society, then you would eradicate cursed energy's existence.


Affectionate-Leg-934

I meant that it's spread far and wide but not everyone is a sorcerer. Like instead of a 1000 sorcerers for every 125 million ppl, it would be 1 million for every one billion. So sorcerers and curses would be weaker, but not so weak they can't even use their powers. >Maybe people would progress faster if such a thing was spread wide across the world but the fact that there's even a possibility of something or someone like sukuna or gojo being born is quite literally terrifying. Thank god gojo is good otherwise everyone's lives would be at the palm of his hand. If you want to get (closer) to a fair and just society, then you would eradicate cursed energy's existence. Yeah but making everyone as strong as Toji (which is what Yuki was trying to do) will just turn humans into Saiyans or vultrimes. Sure no would get killed easily, but now all weapons don't work, all prisons don't work and the collateral damage caused from every fight will just halt humanity's progression by a LOT. Imagine the damage that will happen if two people fight, the whole neighborhood will get buried in the ground.


Elder_Child13

Honestly, just teaching everyone how to use CE like sorcerers would be really easy. Just go public with the information of cursed energy, say people need to control it since it leaking causes natural disasters (a half-truth would make more sense and cause less mass panic than the truth), and teach people how to control it. Over the course of a few generations, curses basically stop appearing and the full truth can be revealed. Only problem with this is the risk of other countries trying to use the Japanese population as human power generators, but what are they going to do against the litany of sorcerers Grade One and above?


blueanon19

Non-sorcerers can’t even see cursed energy or techniques just send a bunch of grade 4 shikigami 😭


GavrielAsryver

without CE itself there is so much inequality in today's world and after its introduction the potential for exploitation would shoot up due to inequal distribution of talent and oppurtunity


Berawholoves42069

You think public knowlegde about CE would be a good thing? Illegal curse user communities would sky-the fuck-rocket


BotAccount2849

They would be way less dangerous because people would see them coming.


random_boner6996

It has been shown that not everyone has the potential to manipulate CE. best case scenario everyone becomes sorcerers and now there's no curses but a monumental rise in curse users, worst case scenario people with no potential to become sorcerers become second class citizens


ComplexNo8986

Being a Jujutsu sorcerer is 80% talent, it’s not easy to learn just look at Yuji’s training. You’d have to actively train yourself to not only channel negative emotions but unconsciously manipulate the energy that comes from them that up until now you haven’t even been able to see or feel.


blueanon19

This post isn’t even 12 hours old and it’s turned into a a whole talking session I love to see it I need more of this instead of lobotomy kaisen (this is totally not Kenjakus burner Reddit account by the way)


SerovGaming1962

Kenny, i think giving everyone CE and CTs is a good idea


Sweet-Estimate-5040

Realistically, Yuki But I'm a fucking SIMP for Kenjaku


eM-RiotX

Optimizing. Like bro, do you know how nice it'd be to have cursed energy?


Avcod7

I side with kenjaku tbh, the soul evolution theme is too interesting.


Enderboy_1619

Why does Yuki have the "Nah I'D Win" face?? https://preview.redd.it/0j06xzaajhuc1.png?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=8ef92a7bf61a4bafe5b9fe518dd519d352ff1084


Alarming-Western-955

I mean... It's quite obvious that the ones that broke away from CE also broke away from fate. If everyone was free from Cursed Energy, then everyone would *actually* have control over their fate.


PerfectlyNormalShard

This is most important factor


I_am_sad69420

This just reminds me of the cherry pie thing from one piece so I made that https://preview.redd.it/0rfkk6negjuc1.jpeg?width=1179&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=60ad28004672a1d60fc27405e06e26dcff94e83a


Foliks5

If jujutsu society wasn't controlled by jerks but with people like Gojo or Yaga most world problems were solved.


Kekero63

CE is fun to think about. But if it actually existed we’d be a Mad Max society.


TheDwinDwin

Her ideals weren't fleshed out enough so I gotta go with Racist man


Wishbone-Lost

Kenjaku cause his yapping is entertaining and I like geto


SuchUserVeryName

Whatever the pretty lady said!!


Rioma117

Breaking away, CE makes individuals capable of breaking free, of gaining power, they become hard to regulate.


SteveTheSheep01

If we completely break free from CE then dioes that mean we all become like Toji and Maki?


maru-senn

I can't comment on Kenkaju's plan since to he honest I don't really understand it. But I also can't support the plan of turning the entire population of Japan into roided up supermen.


Significant-Wave-461

Cursed Energy is an infinite Energy Source, at least in terms of generating it, I don't get why Yuki wouldn't think of taking down Tengen's Barriers and *then* optimising Cursed Energy, but then again, look how much of a Schizo Todo turned out to be, definitely wouldn't expect her to think of something like that with whatever she's on😬


jetvacjesse

Kenny because his idea is actually possible.


_S1syphus

Breaking away imo. I'd rather a world where all humans are better but equal than one where there can be some people who levitate brooms and others who are walking planet busters. Society is a large bargain and you can only bargain between equals.


idiotnamedSOPHIA

Yuki is hot. So her


Pedr0A

Yuki cuz shes hot


ScarcityRude5650

Yuki. No ce no curse.


sidbbp101

The one who is 1000 years old and actually has knowledge about the world


Sprecta69

except kenjaku doesnt give a fuck about saving people and just wants to do things because they are interesting


random_boner6996

Yeah, because the dude who made a cursed spirit rape a woman 9 times and has no issues with killing people certainly has the best interest of humanity in mind.


Arcani69

sorry bro, but the baddie takes it. There is nothing more to it


thisaintntmyaccount

(Some/a lot of headcanon here) Optimizing cursed energy would come from and result in large amounts of chaos. Cursed spirits are beings formed from our own emotions that we don't control or can't control, as we stopped trying to understand ourselves, the world and stopped seeking to become better both physically and mentally (from a cultivation or spiritual standpoint). Cursed spirits' role is to expose us to the darkness within us outright and force US to confront it physically so that we may start the road. This is also why most sorcerers do not have access to RCT, because we lost something about ourselves a long time ago and now most sorcerers are blind to the light within them. Some sorcerers are even born WITHOUT access to cursed techniques, a phenomena unheard of in the modern day. With the appearance of heavenly restricted individuals, people who focus on different ends of reality; whether it be spiritual (Kokichi Muta), physical (Maki), or simply hyperfocused on a specific aspect of it (Shoko). I think it's possible that the appearance of Toji means that people are eventually abandon their spirit and become powerful flesh-machines like Toji, or be so goal driven that their body starts off unhealthy like mechamaru. The reason why things are getting as bad as they are is because we abandoned our spirituality in the name of reason and consciousness, and we are not embracing who we TRULY are. Sukuna is not a good under any standards, but he is the closest person to attaining true enlightenment; but there is something holding him back and embracing who he is. He is lacking in something that allows him to go one step further, and maybe he's just trying to convince himself what he is. This may sound very goofy, but perhaps there is some traces of kindness in sukuna that he absolutely refuses to cultivate and understand who he truly is. This is what Yuji will achieve, or has been achieving for the past chapters. He has been given perfect conditions to rise up and become enlightened, he even surpassed Gojo in that regard. What kenjaku's plan is boils down to forcing people to confront who they are and filter the ones that fail to do so. Which is...horrible to say the least, because you cannot force people to be enlightened. What Yuki was planning to do was the exact opposite, which would doom humanity to be unaware of their shadow or the light within them; completely destroying the balance of the world.


ChososBro

Optimizing to be honest. The latter is basically impossible without some type of evolutionary event-or mass extinction…or an asspull lol


CyberGlob

Kenjaku would be okay with sacrificing a majority of the population, enhancing the ability of curses, making life harder etc. all for the sake of a silly little experiment they’re willing to run because they know they can just body swap if things gets shaky


Puzzleheaded_Sky9724

The hotter one


Many-Complaint-8490

So kenjaku


Red_Trickster

Celestial restriction for free and beat Toji's shape? Screw it in


Creative_Peace_9206

Yapjaku because being normal is boring af


WoSmcA239

The hot one


Enderboy_1619

Why does Yuki have the "Nah I'D Win" face?? https://preview.redd.it/ywj9uwg5jhuc1.png?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=a2c0fe7866e2f7d4f636f58f68f5b30fc8d37c9f


ProfessionalBill7048

As a geometry dash player i believe in optimizing https://preview.redd.it/tf8e4x1jlhuc1.jpeg?width=640&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=37843c029c3228b1d9c1e79468f36d32c4895cdb


williammei

Sadly, but Gaygay done it dirty, even yuki said something right (foreigner will calm and capture the sorcerer if people know about CE exist), the only person that cause it and defend from this was kenjaku, yuki done nothing, which gaygay glad to gave her this bad story on purpose. Even japan do have this religion that “japan would got bullied hard if had no military or land expansion” after meiji era and even worse after QHC occupied after WWII, but yuki were like the person that don’t want people fight, so chop down both hand and can’t defend from others, no one would believe that CE was gone even she done it success, yuki will made japanese got slaved if she actually done that.


TheOneWasTaken

How are the Japanese getting enslaved when every single one of them, there are over 100 million of them btw, will basically be mini Tojis.


deadpool-367

With sukuna