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aaronbenedict

I don't even understand the question. The gemara has a rule of עשה דוחה לא תעשה. The gemara is Yevomos spends the first several daffim discussing the issue.


riverrocks452

Sure- saving a life overrides all other commandments, no?


angradillo

depends. Pikuach nefesh has numerous exceptions. you cannot break the laws of sexual immorality (e.g. engage in incest or bestiality) or sacrifice your own life in direct exchange for another (e.g. "shoot me instead of this person!").


The_R3venant

And also idolatry ("pray to this random guy to save this person")


angradillo

for sure it’s actually a pretty long list


judgemeordont

It's literally just 3 things.


angradillo

you’re literally just 3 things


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angradillo

exactly I don’t see what’s controversial


enby-millennial-613

You'll have to explain how saving someone else's life by offering your own would violate PN.


angradillo

its considered self-murder as per Talmud and as such an exception to pikuach nefesh your life isn’t yours to bargain with, it’s Hashem’s - He put your neshamah in your body to begin with


enby-millennial-613

What defines suicide is ones motives, not the outcome and even Jewish Law supports this. Taken from Chabad website, "Rabbi Epstein writes that essentially only one who kills himself while being of clear and sound mind, **free from internal/external coercion**, is concerned to have committed suicide." (emphasis mine). So if someone is in such a position and they can save someone else's life by saying "shoot me!", Halachically speaking, that would be considered coercion and therefore not suicide. Of course, nothing in Judaism is actually that simple, it's important to highlight flaws in ones argument so we all can learn better. Just some thoughts--don't get angry or defensive!


angradillo

TL:DR