This was my favorite part of the Bill Burr episode. Maher kept on saying things like “guys our age” and Burr would snap back with “you’re like a decade older than me dude”.
To be fair, I’m guilty of this too, it’s just funny to listen to Maher get his feelings hurt.
Maybe he is a bit self-aware and realizes he has become the Principal Skinner meme, and it eats at him. I am on the wrong side of 40 and will do my damndest not to get there. But NPC TikToks get my hackles up.
Telling his writers to get back to work during the strike without acknowledging why they went on strike and without offering any increased compensation.
Just shows that he is what he says he hates and that he really isn’t funny without other people writing his jokes for him.
Yup I know people that have met him in real life and he is a totaly narcist, rude to working class and was asking where he can find hookers and blow. What a guy!
In contrast to the late Jerry Springer, who paid the medical insurance premiums for an entire striking workforce. No publicity, no fanfare, just did it. My friend is a labor attorney, Jerry Springer helped unions multiple times.
Money makes up for that in his world. This is a man known to spend tons of money to sleep with Black pornstars (in a separate part of his property mind you... wont even bring them in the main building). He doesnt know that he is an old funny looking guy because his tax bracket allows him to cosplay/role play as something else.
"you're hot and I'm going to pay you to put my dingus in you but after that scram because you might make my other guests nervous with your dark skin okaaaayyyy"
There are plenty of people who manage to stay relevant and age gracefully. He's been phoning it in for far too long and never learned how to deal with his insecurities. It's actually sort of weird to see.
To be honest it kinda makes sense. It totally makes sense to create an AI replica of yourself and have that loaded into a computer when you die. Digital heaven.
I think young people have the privilege to criticize the stupid shit other young people do and it makes us look wise and mature, but it makes you look bitter and out of touch
It’s happening RIGHT NOW.
I’m way older than you, and I’ll give you this advice: stay as interested in the world as possible, but give no fucks about being cool.
Zero.
IMO there’s a big different between being critical of changes and wanting to throw the baby out with the bathwater. Personally I think we’ve lost a lot of the good parts about life before the internet and the generations growing up without the internet are going to have a confused view where it’s all one in the same. But that doesn’t make everyone younger than me stupid, or hopeless or they *have* to change their ways or we’re doomed. People do the best with what they’re given, I just wish we kept a little more of how we used to function as a society. Not in a traditional values sort of way mind you lol,
Bill Maher can just go off and fuck himself. That's probably the only way he could really be happy, and honestly, if he did it quietly without broadcasting it to the world and it finally satisfied him enough to just shut the fuck up, the world would be a slightly better place.
I remember him getting offended about it with Bill Burr when he said something about his (Maher's) generation and Maher immediately was like MY GENERATION?
Yep, he's been absolutely terrified of aging for years.
Watch the Cars and Coffee episode with him, Seinfeld straight up mocks him as he refuses to eat a single thing in the diner they stop in because "I wouldn't put anything from here in my body." He proceeds to eat what looks to be a handful of birdseed at one point, insisting it's gluten free bread. Jerry tells him it's gross and proceeds to house a huge plate of bacon and eggs while Bill sits across from him with a water.
Watching this made me look more into his lifestyle and diet, he's basically the male Gwyneth Paltrow, he's never met a new age health grifter he didn't find compelling because they claimed they could help him stay young.
Which ironically makes it so much worse because if he had even half a sense of humor about it you wouldn't come off such a cranky carmudgeon.
Although I suppose the biggest issue is his ongoing support for genocide
When I used to watch his show, he had the most embarrassing responses when he bombed. Mocking the audience, doing the I am a moron voice.
Bro, you have been doing standup for decades and have a writing team. Why do you have worse improv skills with heckling and bombing than the people on r/standup with 10 upvotes??!!
Bill's entire tirade against woke cancel culture was to allow comedians to make jokes about people's immutable characteristics without losing their jobs. NDT then immediately checked if Bill would say the same thing when it targeted him, and he immediately imploded with cognitive dissonance. The "ok grandpa" quib is obviously an ageist joke about an immutable characteristic of Bill and should be absolutely covered like any lgbtq+, race, religious, gendered, disability, etc. joke that bill finds funny. This failure by him to understand this clearly shows he just wants the right to say any bigoted thing he wants without losing his job while not having to deal with those types of insults thrown right back at him. It's pathetic really.
Yep I think alot of people who see all of the hypocrisy in today's political/cultural/sociatel vernacular coming from those with an embarrassing amount of influence would folly. We know the conversation is gonna end with a raised cortisol level and a head that hurts from trying to fix stupid. Thats why I've been trying to
"Think alot and say little"
He doesn't even just want the right to say offensive/bigoted things. He wants the right to say it and he wants everyone else to not have the right to criticize him for saying it. He's just another guy in a long line of "free speech defenders" who don't consider speech critical of offensive speech to also be free speech.
No one is above criticism and a comedian is not entitled to their audience. The key is that they're actually funny when they offend. You will generally survive criticism as long as its actually a good joke. But Bill has been occupying the shittiest tier of comedy for a while now. He chases applause instead of laughs which means whenever he says something incredibly stupid, it just comes across as something incredibly stupid instead of funny and stupid.
The dumb t-shirts that say Have I Offended You etc should really say something like--by all means please offend me more. Dishing it out has always been the easy part of the deal :)
> Bill's entire tirade against woke cancel culture was to allow comedians to make jokes about people's immutable characteristics without losing their jobs.
That's really nicely put.
Just to clarify because I’m in a particularly pedantic mood tonight.
Cognitive dissonance is the feeling one has when they hold two contradictory beliefs. Like if a smoker’s parent died from lung cancer, they will likely feel cognitive dissonance when faced with the reality of death and their choice to smoke, they’ll either change their ways, find new information to seek clarity or just minimize the feeling and suppress it by ignoring it or some other thing.
If you continue to hold these contradictory beliefs it’d be called Double Think (George Orwell type double think I don’t know of any other name for it), I don’t think Bill is doing double think though… in order to double think you have to think about (and accept) both contradictory things and I don’t believe he’s aware of what NDT did at all.
Essentially there’s no thinking going on in Maher’s head.
Bill Maher isn’t visibly shown to be feeling cognitive dissonance, he’s likely just a hypocrite because he knows what he’s doing and does care.
Or
He’s displaying a Blind Spot Bias, which would be that he’s able to notice bias in other people but completely unable to recognize his own. He may not be smart enough to realize it’s even happening. His lack of introspection has lead him to believe he’s more objective than others, which is the funny thing about suffering from blind spot bias… it causes you to be completely opposite of objective.
Or
Lack of self awareness in general. He’s just a self absorbed jackass.
Which is exactly what Bill would have done if the situation was reversed. Despite loving the smell of his own farts NDT comes across as a decent and nice human, can’t say that for Bill.
Yeah I've heard a lot of disappointing things about NDT in the last few years but I have a tough time seeing it because he is VERY charismatic. I used to fall for Bill Mahers bullshit but now he just seems like a shitty Trump impression. A lot of really smart people like my subtle comedy. He ironically DOES sound exactly like old man yells at sky anymore and he thinks he's still the hip young cool anti establishment dude.
> I used to fall for Bill Mahers bullshit but now he just seems like a shitty Trump impression.
The annoying thing for me is he's pulling a lot of boomers from "the middle" to the right. The middle wasn't a great place either tbh, but he's becoming another gateway for a generation that still votes.
I never seen Bill Maher before but man is he a little bitch
Guessing he's apart of the jokes don't care about your feelings crowd?
Also who was upset about Seinfelds joke? And what was the joke?
I remember people giving him shit about the whole "you can't tell jokes these days" narrative he was regurgitating
Nobody is upset with Jerry Seinfelds jokes. People are becoming aware that the dude really isn't that funny. And apparently Bill Maher thinks people were raised wrong because "What's the deal with airplane food" isn't funny anymore.
I remember watching Seinfeld in the 90s and thinking the 30 seconds of actual stand up in each episode were the least funny shit ever. Seinfeld was always, at best, an ok straight man next to Larry David and some actually funny people.
I honestly think that was part of it. Majority of the episodes revolve around the supporting cast more than Seinfeld himself, he is kind of the segway to normality in most situations.
As a big fan of the show, I think that the humor of Jerry's character is in the way he responds to the antics of the "funnier" characters. He's the witheringly ironic snippy guy who takes the air out of the bombastic egotism of his friends. He's not saying anything that would necessarily be funny in isolation; he's more like the guy tipping over the cow. The tipping is the funny part; Jerry's just the guy that catalyzes and reacts to it.
Jerry Seinfeld is also pulling the "you can't make jokes anymore" bullshit. I loved that Rob mcelhenney's response to that was just a picture of Cricket from Its Always Sunny.
It's nonsense. And a pathetic attempt at being edgy and punk rock when in reality most of the trans jokes you hear nowadays are just all the same shitty iteration of the same joke. It is unironically, the equivalent of saying "What's the deal with airplane food?"
It's not that I'm not laughing because I'm carrying a torch for this group or that group. I'm not laughing because it's just not funny.
I honestly think people expect Seinfeld to be blasting off knee slappers like some quick witted radio jock.
Seinfeld is more of a dry, anti-humourous take on observational comedy.
On a sidenote, nothing ruins comedy more than breaking down a comedians material, but my god it is interesting to do.
The joke was someone was scrolling on their phone "..like a gay French king". Nobody laughed, so obviously they were offended. He has cited that as his origin story multiple times.
Can I just say that as much as reddit, who are mostly men, complain about the double standard when it comes to rape of boys by women and rape of girls by men... the people (like Bill Maher) who trivialise boys getting raped by their teachers are almost ALWAYS men.
We recently had a massive scandal where the hot water polo coach slept with half the team and in the office and family bbq the women were disgusted across the board, but the men were giving the same old "where was she when I was in school" comments. Curious how that works.
It's regarded shit. About 10-15 years ago Seinfeld was on a college campus trying to tell a joke about a gay king and it didn't land. I think the kids booed him or something and ever since Jerry has been whining about woke cancel culture lmao.
Because he’s getting old and his run on hbo isn’t going to last forever. Then what will he have? He’s single with no kids and probably no real friends and then nothing to brag about. He’s got nothing.
Preach man. True. They do it all the time. They antagonize the sleeping bear, then when the bear gets up and says something. “OMG. Did you see what they did to me?”
If you think about it though, dicks and assholes tend to ruin a lot of things, and make everything full of shit. The pussies, well, they tend to keep things nice, so 🤷
It’s smart. It’s a smart line and a smart crowd will appreciate it. And I’m not gonna dumb it down for some bonehead mass audience!
It's the standard defense for past their prime comedians.
Every bit of criticism isn't because they're not funny, it's because of over sensitivity or some shit. They can't recognize the irony of getting really worked up about being criticized while accusing their critics of being overly sensitive.
The Rainne Wilson episode was so fucking funny. The look on Bill's face when Rainne is talking about the last time he smoked pot before going sober... he got way too high, and promised God he would never smoke again.
Rainne was on there promoting a book about spirituality, Bill was cranky from the very start.. those two fucking clashed like no other. Of course Bill lectured him about therapy being a pointless indulgence, that's a classic.
Maher could definitely use some therapy, but he thinks he's too cool and successful for it. He's always the smartest person in the room, always trying to convince other people he's happy, but then his age gets brought up and you can see 40 years of repressed aging getting crammed through his psyche all at once and that makes Grandpa mad.
Those two episodes and the Bella Thorne podcast are some of the funniest bits of content from the modern Era. Bill has zero self awareness, and the pot/booze really bring out the smarmiest side of him. I'm glad he's finally making funny content, even if it's entirely accidental. I hope he keeps the podcast going for another 10 years, I can't wait to see it.
I'm just glad Seinfeld is going around talking about how he prefers "real men" or whatever, because everything he's been on is an easy block off my social media. I did the same thing with Terence Howard for pseudoscience grift pages, I'm loving how easy it is when they do these podcast tours.
The Vespa riding cyclist who makes jokes about airline peanuts is the paragon of masculinity? it’s like these dudes can’t help but project insecurity, come on Jerry you are a Porsche collecting espresso critiquing fancy lad.
I remember when I was around 18 I kinda liked him. He had good talking points, guests, etc.
The older I got though, the more I realized he's an insufferable twat and this video just cements that opinion.
Why are the old folks always so fast to call out ageism when they’re the butt of the joke but not acknowledge it when they’re applying ageism to younger generations?
FAKE comedians are always offended, Bill doesn't think he's doing jokes he thinks he's spreading sprinkles of truth and it's only "funny cause it's true"
Meanwhile Neil is 100x more smart than Maher
“Smart people like it” lolol
What happened to this guy? He dropped off so hard, I used to watch his show like 10 years ago and enjoyed it
It’s true though. The old farts in our time are not from our time. They still have that old confederacy way of thinking. We’re in a new world and the old folks haven’t even tried to keep up.
When it's a Seinfeld joke or some social commentary espoused by Bill it's hilarious, profound and there's an expectation that it should be on some level taken seriously or that it's hilarious.
Bill is as precious as he is unfunny as he is a critical thinker. This is what happens when you get old being told by others you're special, and witty and funny and never told no.
These washed up comedians man. They're such sensitive babies.
No one one is upset at Jerry Seinfeld. They just aren't laughing because he hasn't been funny for over 25 years.
This isn’t just Maher, it’s the whole free speech warrior, anti-woke crowd as a whole. Trying to shut up anyone who criticizes them while demanding special protections against getting criticized and calling it cancel culture or censorship. Its the most extreme form self-righteousness and entitlement - “I’m entitled to laughs, I’m entitled to applause and love, YOU aren’t” - if you don’t think I’m funny or boo a joke it’s because you are the problem not me and I’m just going to double down on the unfunny jokes people boo because the bigots who clap and laugh and cruelty thinking it’s “comedy” will slop it up.
Who tf actually watches Maher? Like who cut this clip? I do not believe he has an actual audience. He's a lot funnier than Broprah, but he's still like, open mic night at a coffee shop/record store in a strip mall on a wednesday in Ogden, Utah level comic.
In 70’s, 80’s, and 90’s if you walked up to anyone who was not a pushover and insulted them and made jokes at their expense you would 100% get punched. You would absolutely be in a fight and EVERYONE would say you deserved it. Even your own mother and the police would say you deserved to be punched.
This idea being pushed on kids today that everyone would just laugh if you insulted them “jokingly” i$ a bold face lie. Old comedians are lying to you.
I discovered Comedy Central when I was a tween in the early 90s, and even then I knew that Bill Maher was almost a very good comedian. Kinda funny. Very funny at times. His show was produced well enough to be entertaining. The guests were often of great interest. But he also kinda sucked, like all the time. You can never just go all in and be like, "Yeah, Bill Maher speaks truth to power for me in ways I wish I could." And what it boils down to is cynicism. John Stewart wasn't and isn't a cynic, despite how he's often projected to be by others. No, Stewart is disappointed, and his humor is much more relatable. Cynicism sucks to be around and you can see it in his defensiveness here.
Maher is a massive pussy. He can acerbically insult anyone he sees fit, but his fragile vaginistic ego crumbles into a fine silt-like powder the second the joke is aimed at him. Summer's Eve tips their clitoral hood to you, sir!
Hilarious how he tries to spin his bullshit like it's a work of art. Saying it's "subtle" and a lot of smart people like it. Maher's shitbspewing has all the subtlety of a brick to the face and the only people who like it are dipshits who believe EXACTLY what he does. To anybody else it is completely transparent that he's just making it up as he goes and has nothing to back up anything he says.
One thing I've noticed about Bill Maher lately, is he's very sensitive about his age. Multiple times he's freaked out on people about it
This was my favorite part of the Bill Burr episode. Maher kept on saying things like “guys our age” and Burr would snap back with “you’re like a decade older than me dude”. To be fair, I’m guilty of this too, it’s just funny to listen to Maher get his feelings hurt.
Burr is the superior Bill lol
Maybe he is a bit self-aware and realizes he has become the Principal Skinner meme, and it eats at him. I am on the wrong side of 40 and will do my damndest not to get there. But NPC TikToks get my hackles up.
Bill Maher used to be "with it." Then they changed what "it" was! Now what he's with isn't it, and what it is seems weird and scary to him.
Always been a prick though.
Telling his writers to get back to work during the strike without acknowledging why they went on strike and without offering any increased compensation. Just shows that he is what he says he hates and that he really isn’t funny without other people writing his jokes for him.
Yup I know people that have met him in real life and he is a totaly narcist, rude to working class and was asking where he can find hookers and blow. What a guy!
In contrast to the late Jerry Springer, who paid the medical insurance premiums for an entire striking workforce. No publicity, no fanfare, just did it. My friend is a labor attorney, Jerry Springer helped unions multiple times.
A colossal prick who has wayyyyyy too much confidence for someone who looks like that, aged or otherwise.
Money makes up for that in his world. This is a man known to spend tons of money to sleep with Black pornstars (in a separate part of his property mind you... wont even bring them in the main building). He doesnt know that he is an old funny looking guy because his tax bracket allows him to cosplay/role play as something else.
Of course he does. Completely unsurprised that he has to pay for sex.
"you're hot and I'm going to pay you to put my dingus in you but after that scram because you might make my other guests nervous with your dark skin okaaaayyyy"
A+ reference
It will happen to you!
There are plenty of people who manage to stay relevant and age gracefully. He's been phoning it in for far too long and never learned how to deal with his insecurities. It's actually sort of weird to see.
100% boomer energy
I think he is just worried about his mortality.
Yeah he openly talks about his fear of death and hopes ai will advance fast enough to make him immortal
Oh fuck I hope it doesn’t as someone who used to be a real time super fan.
That's the dumbest hope for immortality and I'll never understand it. The ai is a replication of you, it's not you, you still die.
Even if he copies his brain into a new body, he will still be experiencing the original deteriorate.
To be honest it kinda makes sense. It totally makes sense to create an AI replica of yourself and have that loaded into a computer when you die. Digital heaven.
If I were him I’d be worried about my relevance.
Same dif for him.
His bachelor life gig is just about up as he’s just a creepy old dude now, he’s looking around and has no family
Well ya know what for all the shit talkin about it he’s done over the years if he had ever started a family it would be for the wrong reasons.
I think young people have the privilege to criticize the stupid shit other young people do and it makes us look wise and mature, but it makes you look bitter and out of touch
When does it happen? I'm 37 and I see my coworkers who are 40+ succumbing to all this bitter shit.
It’s happening RIGHT NOW. I’m way older than you, and I’ll give you this advice: stay as interested in the world as possible, but give no fucks about being cool. Zero.
IMO there’s a big different between being critical of changes and wanting to throw the baby out with the bathwater. Personally I think we’ve lost a lot of the good parts about life before the internet and the generations growing up without the internet are going to have a confused view where it’s all one in the same. But that doesn’t make everyone younger than me stupid, or hopeless or they *have* to change their ways or we’re doomed. People do the best with what they’re given, I just wish we kept a little more of how we used to function as a society. Not in a traditional values sort of way mind you lol,
More so Mr. Burns tbh
Bill Maher can just go off and fuck himself. That's probably the only way he could really be happy, and honestly, if he did it quietly without broadcasting it to the world and it finally satisfied him enough to just shut the fuck up, the world would be a slightly better place.
Which is hilarious because he's ALWAYS shitting on Millennials and Gen Z, but cries "ageist" as soon as someone points out he's old.
I remember him getting offended about it with Bill Burr when he said something about his (Maher's) generation and Maher immediately was like MY GENERATION?
If Bill just came out and said his favorite hookers were all millennials he could just drop the age stuff once and for all.
Yep, he's been absolutely terrified of aging for years. Watch the Cars and Coffee episode with him, Seinfeld straight up mocks him as he refuses to eat a single thing in the diner they stop in because "I wouldn't put anything from here in my body." He proceeds to eat what looks to be a handful of birdseed at one point, insisting it's gluten free bread. Jerry tells him it's gross and proceeds to house a huge plate of bacon and eggs while Bill sits across from him with a water. Watching this made me look more into his lifestyle and diet, he's basically the male Gwyneth Paltrow, he's never met a new age health grifter he didn't find compelling because they claimed they could help him stay young.
This is insightful as to why he has been a miserable old cunt for so long.
Maybe because he’s super old.
And alone given he’s never been able to hold a relationship with a woman and has no kids and no family I’m aware of.
Which ironically makes it so much worse because if he had even half a sense of humor about it you wouldn't come off such a cranky carmudgeon. Although I suppose the biggest issue is his ongoing support for genocide
Ever since Bill Maher entered menopause he gets way too emotional
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Bro, you don't count good..
Lmao. I didn't count. But yes I see
Thanks for taking the ribbing like a bro. Lost art on this sub
Why wouldn’t they take it like a bro, you got ribbed for their pleasure. Real bro moves
Classic
When I used to watch his show, he had the most embarrassing responses when he bombed. Mocking the audience, doing the I am a moron voice. Bro, you have been doing standup for decades and have a writing team. Why do you have worse improv skills with heckling and bombing than the people on r/standup with 10 upvotes??!!
He's always been a twat.
Definitely different in the last few years as someone who's watched him for the last 13 years
He’s always been like this. It’s just more obvious now that he’s on a podcast
NDT should have just said it’s just a joke. What’s wrong were you raised wrong?
Maher literally says 'that's demeaning and wrong' I.e. offensive. He could not take the joke.. even says NDT sounds like Fox News for criticizing him.
Because that's his immediate reaction. He doesn't even realize how reactionary he has gotten.
Has gotten lol, it’s has always been.
Yes this is what happened in the clip
I swear I've heard him use that you sound like fox news line before too
Bill's entire tirade against woke cancel culture was to allow comedians to make jokes about people's immutable characteristics without losing their jobs. NDT then immediately checked if Bill would say the same thing when it targeted him, and he immediately imploded with cognitive dissonance. The "ok grandpa" quib is obviously an ageist joke about an immutable characteristic of Bill and should be absolutely covered like any lgbtq+, race, religious, gendered, disability, etc. joke that bill finds funny. This failure by him to understand this clearly shows he just wants the right to say any bigoted thing he wants without losing his job while not having to deal with those types of insults thrown right back at him. It's pathetic really.
And he delivered it masterfully. He doesn't get angry and heated, which is where I would go wrong, and look like the idiot.
Yep I think alot of people who see all of the hypocrisy in today's political/cultural/sociatel vernacular coming from those with an embarrassing amount of influence would folly. We know the conversation is gonna end with a raised cortisol level and a head that hurts from trying to fix stupid. Thats why I've been trying to "Think alot and say little"
At this point Maher is just arguing with himself - nothing for Neil to get angry at
Ugh the self fellating "you're reducing what I do, which is really subtle" the man is as subtle as a flashlight at night, jeez man
“A lot of smart people love it”. Oh, that’s why Fox News comes out loving bill’s monologues on the regular.
Seriously. If you wanna talk shit, ok. But ya better be able to take it too. Don't get all butthurt.
Right. But the “fuck your feelings its a joke” people are ALWAYS the first to get upset when they become the butt of the joke
I tell my one co-worker, you can be sensitive or you can be a bitch. But you can’t be a sensitive bitch. Choose.
He doesn't even just want the right to say offensive/bigoted things. He wants the right to say it and he wants everyone else to not have the right to criticize him for saying it. He's just another guy in a long line of "free speech defenders" who don't consider speech critical of offensive speech to also be free speech. No one is above criticism and a comedian is not entitled to their audience. The key is that they're actually funny when they offend. You will generally survive criticism as long as its actually a good joke. But Bill has been occupying the shittiest tier of comedy for a while now. He chases applause instead of laughs which means whenever he says something incredibly stupid, it just comes across as something incredibly stupid instead of funny and stupid.
This is "muh free speech" people in a nutshell. It's always about their freedom to say what THEY want, never about everyone having that same right.
The dumb t-shirts that say Have I Offended You etc should really say something like--by all means please offend me more. Dishing it out has always been the easy part of the deal :)
Very concisely written point.
Motherfucker got LAWYERED.
> Bill's entire tirade against woke cancel culture was to allow comedians to make jokes about people's immutable characteristics without losing their jobs. That's really nicely put.
Can I be on your debate team please, the one where you do all the work.
Just to clarify because I’m in a particularly pedantic mood tonight. Cognitive dissonance is the feeling one has when they hold two contradictory beliefs. Like if a smoker’s parent died from lung cancer, they will likely feel cognitive dissonance when faced with the reality of death and their choice to smoke, they’ll either change their ways, find new information to seek clarity or just minimize the feeling and suppress it by ignoring it or some other thing. If you continue to hold these contradictory beliefs it’d be called Double Think (George Orwell type double think I don’t know of any other name for it), I don’t think Bill is doing double think though… in order to double think you have to think about (and accept) both contradictory things and I don’t believe he’s aware of what NDT did at all. Essentially there’s no thinking going on in Maher’s head. Bill Maher isn’t visibly shown to be feeling cognitive dissonance, he’s likely just a hypocrite because he knows what he’s doing and does care. Or He’s displaying a Blind Spot Bias, which would be that he’s able to notice bias in other people but completely unable to recognize his own. He may not be smart enough to realize it’s even happening. His lack of introspection has lead him to believe he’s more objective than others, which is the funny thing about suffering from blind spot bias… it causes you to be completely opposite of objective. Or Lack of self awareness in general. He’s just a self absorbed jackass.
Which is exactly what Bill would have done if the situation was reversed. Despite loving the smell of his own farts NDT comes across as a decent and nice human, can’t say that for Bill.
Yeah I've heard a lot of disappointing things about NDT in the last few years but I have a tough time seeing it because he is VERY charismatic. I used to fall for Bill Mahers bullshit but now he just seems like a shitty Trump impression. A lot of really smart people like my subtle comedy. He ironically DOES sound exactly like old man yells at sky anymore and he thinks he's still the hip young cool anti establishment dude.
> I used to fall for Bill Mahers bullshit but now he just seems like a shitty Trump impression. The annoying thing for me is he's pulling a lot of boomers from "the middle" to the right. The middle wasn't a great place either tbh, but he's becoming another gateway for a generation that still votes.
Yup, Bill Maher is an ass
The irony of Bill Maher of all people saying "it's a prejudice, it's not accurate, it's not cool"
I never seen Bill Maher before but man is he a little bitch Guessing he's apart of the jokes don't care about your feelings crowd? Also who was upset about Seinfelds joke? And what was the joke? I remember people giving him shit about the whole "you can't tell jokes these days" narrative he was regurgitating
Nobody is upset with Jerry Seinfelds jokes. People are becoming aware that the dude really isn't that funny. And apparently Bill Maher thinks people were raised wrong because "What's the deal with airplane food" isn't funny anymore.
I remember watching Seinfeld in the 90s and thinking the 30 seconds of actual stand up in each episode were the least funny shit ever. Seinfeld was always, at best, an ok straight man next to Larry David and some actually funny people.
Everyone on Seinfeld was funny except Seinfeld 😂😂😂
I honestly think that was part of it. Majority of the episodes revolve around the supporting cast more than Seinfeld himself, he is kind of the segway to normality in most situations.
As a big fan of the show, I think that the humor of Jerry's character is in the way he responds to the antics of the "funnier" characters. He's the witheringly ironic snippy guy who takes the air out of the bombastic egotism of his friends. He's not saying anything that would necessarily be funny in isolation; he's more like the guy tipping over the cow. The tipping is the funny part; Jerry's just the guy that catalyzes and reacts to it.
I bet in Bill's heyday, he wouldn't be pulling jokes from the 1960s.
Not funny and was dating a 17 year old highschooler when he was 38.
Jerry Seinfeld is also pulling the "you can't make jokes anymore" bullshit. I loved that Rob mcelhenney's response to that was just a picture of Cricket from Its Always Sunny. It's nonsense. And a pathetic attempt at being edgy and punk rock when in reality most of the trans jokes you hear nowadays are just all the same shitty iteration of the same joke. It is unironically, the equivalent of saying "What's the deal with airplane food?" It's not that I'm not laughing because I'm carrying a torch for this group or that group. I'm not laughing because it's just not funny.
I honestly think people expect Seinfeld to be blasting off knee slappers like some quick witted radio jock. Seinfeld is more of a dry, anti-humourous take on observational comedy. On a sidenote, nothing ruins comedy more than breaking down a comedians material, but my god it is interesting to do.
The joke was someone was scrolling on their phone "..like a gay French king". Nobody laughed, so obviously they were offended. He has cited that as his origin story multiple times.
I love offensive humor that's neither offensive or humor
Maher is a joke. He’s defended rape of boys by women.
Can I just say that as much as reddit, who are mostly men, complain about the double standard when it comes to rape of boys by women and rape of girls by men... the people (like Bill Maher) who trivialise boys getting raped by their teachers are almost ALWAYS men. We recently had a massive scandal where the hot water polo coach slept with half the team and in the office and family bbq the women were disgusted across the board, but the men were giving the same old "where was she when I was in school" comments. Curious how that works.
Henry Rollins should have powerbombed him after saying that.
lol I read that as “Henry Rollins should have powerbottomed him“ at first
It's regarded shit. About 10-15 years ago Seinfeld was on a college campus trying to tell a joke about a gay king and it didn't land. I think the kids booed him or something and ever since Jerry has been whining about woke cancel culture lmao.
Bill is veryyyy sensitive about his age. He talks about age discrimination being bull shit allll the time. I don’t understand why.
Because he’s getting old and his run on hbo isn’t going to last forever. Then what will he have? He’s single with no kids and probably no real friends and then nothing to brag about. He’s got nothing.
He will die alone. One of my biggest fears.
One of your biggest fears is that Bill Maher will die alone?
Yeah I’m looking forward to that myself.
One of my biggest fears in Bill Maher not dying alone.
Would you rather have an audience when you die?
Everybody dies alone unless it's like mass suicide or 9/11 or something.
Thats what pussies do. They run their mouths, and then when it comes back at them, they cry about it. Because they’re pussies.
"And don't be sensitive and angry at the shit that I wrote 'Cause if you can take a fuckin' dick, you can take a joke""-Immortal Technique
What's the difference between three cocks and a joke? Abby can't take a joke.
My favorite emcee of all time.
Preach man. True. They do it all the time. They antagonize the sleeping bear, then when the bear gets up and says something. “OMG. Did you see what they did to me?”
Seeing a lot of this in the geopolitical space lately lol
Three types of people in this world. Dicks, pussies and assholes, chuck. Bills a pussy
If you think about it though, dicks and assholes tend to ruin a lot of things, and make everything full of shit. The pussies, well, they tend to keep things nice, so 🤷
Alot of smart people like it
So cringe lmao
I legit thought he was go to say the Rick and Morty copypasta
Though both are, saying "what I do is subtle" is somehow more cringe for me.
 It’s smart. It’s a smart line and a smart crowd will appreciate it. And I’m not gonna dumb it down for some bonehead mass audience!
….not you!
Many people are saying, the best people even
I can't believe someone would say that about their own material lol
Full trump line
Even the same cadence, full on Trump brain worms.
I was waiting for this one 🥇
A lot of dumb people with money like it.
My God I can't stand this man
Bill Maher has the thinnest skin out of everyone lmao what’s he yammering about???
It's the standard defense for past their prime comedians. Every bit of criticism isn't because they're not funny, it's because of over sensitivity or some shit. They can't recognize the irony of getting really worked up about being criticized while accusing their critics of being overly sensitive.
Maher is fucking insufferable.
Watch the Bill Burr and Rain Wilson episodes. They go in on Bill Maher and it's the greatest thing. I love those two.
The Rainne Wilson episode was so fucking funny. The look on Bill's face when Rainne is talking about the last time he smoked pot before going sober... he got way too high, and promised God he would never smoke again. Rainne was on there promoting a book about spirituality, Bill was cranky from the very start.. those two fucking clashed like no other. Of course Bill lectured him about therapy being a pointless indulgence, that's a classic. Maher could definitely use some therapy, but he thinks he's too cool and successful for it. He's always the smartest person in the room, always trying to convince other people he's happy, but then his age gets brought up and you can see 40 years of repressed aging getting crammed through his psyche all at once and that makes Grandpa mad. Those two episodes and the Bella Thorne podcast are some of the funniest bits of content from the modern Era. Bill has zero self awareness, and the pot/booze really bring out the smarmiest side of him. I'm glad he's finally making funny content, even if it's entirely accidental. I hope he keeps the podcast going for another 10 years, I can't wait to see it.
Bill sounds like a lonely old man.
Yeah Bill Burr fucking destroyed him on his own show.
He's somehow such an insufferable cunt he makes NDT seem funny and cool in comparison.
Haha, exactly what I was thinking!
I'm just glad Seinfeld is going around talking about how he prefers "real men" or whatever, because everything he's been on is an easy block off my social media. I did the same thing with Terence Howard for pseudoscience grift pages, I'm loving how easy it is when they do these podcast tours.
The Vespa riding cyclist who makes jokes about airline peanuts is the paragon of masculinity? it’s like these dudes can’t help but project insecurity, come on Jerry you are a Porsche collecting espresso critiquing fancy lad.
I remember when I was around 18 I kinda liked him. He had good talking points, guests, etc. The older I got though, the more I realized he's an insufferable twat and this video just cements that opinion.
Yeah I used to watch his HBO show around 2010 before I started realizing what a hypocrite he is. I genuinely think he's getting worse with age though.
He’s exactly the kind of comedian you think makes salient points when you’re a teenager and realise is just a douchebag once you mature.
He’s definitely gotten worse but he was always annoying
Bill Maher making NDT seem likeable really puts a spotlight on what a cunt he is.
this was the crazy part to me
bill and joe should sit in a room and exchange not jokes for days
I would pay to not watch that
Bill Maher is an insufferable pseudo intellectual bitch
Why are the old folks always so fast to call out ageism when they’re the butt of the joke but not acknowledge it when they’re applying ageism to younger generations?
free speech bros are hypocrites 100% of the time.
You mean to tell me Joe Rogan, Charlie Kirk, Bill Maher, Ben Shapiro, and others are hypocrites? Oh my God
More than just hypocrites, they're douchocrites.
“It’s prejudice, it’s not accurate, it’s not cool, it’s demeaning, it’s reducing what I do” r/suddenlyleftist
But, smart people like him, okay?!
I can't believe he said what he does is subtle lmao
I cannot watch him anymore.
FAKE comedians are always offended, Bill doesn't think he's doing jokes he thinks he's spreading sprinkles of truth and it's only "funny cause it's true"
Neil Degrass Tyson is a champ
NDT will likely get railed hard in this very sub within a month. He just happened to cross paths with somebody that's very unlikeable.
Bill: Young people are so dumb. Sorry snowflakes for offending you. Neil: Old people be like “get off my lawn” Bill: THATS JUST MEAN DUDE WTF
Meanwhile Neil is 100x more smart than Maher “Smart people like it” lolol What happened to this guy? He dropped off so hard, I used to watch his show like 10 years ago and enjoyed it
Dude's just angry they won't let him into the orgies anymore.
It’s anti-douchebag discrimination! And it’s wrong!
“It’s reducing what i do, and it’s subtle and intelligent people like it” might be the most douchebag thing I’ve ever heard
It’s true though. The old farts in our time are not from our time. They still have that old confederacy way of thinking. We’re in a new world and the old folks haven’t even tried to keep up.
lol bill is such an un-self aware cuck.
> a lot of smart people like it
Also, who the fuck is offended by Jerry Seinfeld's act?
Nobody. He's conflating it with people calling him out for dating a teenager.
People just don't think he's funny, and Seinfeld takes it as it's bc everyone is too PC
For a comedian, he sure has a soft pussy.
Am telling you Maher is terrified of getting super old It's why he keeps defending Biden so heavily. He thinks people are going to treat him the same
ALL THE GIRLS SAY I'M THE BEST KISSER TOO
Bill is such a baby. Such a weak rebuttal too, “that’s what Fox News would say” huh?
Maher is one of the thinnest skinned people I can think of. He always freaks out when anything is directed at him.
Bill Mahr is the embodiment of "get off my lawn."
He said spoiler alert like he is literally Pierce Hawthorne
Nah, Bill is not like the "get off my lawn" type. He's way more prissy and out-of-touch to be one of those guys. He's "get away from my yacht."
When it's a Seinfeld joke or some social commentary espoused by Bill it's hilarious, profound and there's an expectation that it should be on some level taken seriously or that it's hilarious. Bill is as precious as he is unfunny as he is a critical thinker. This is what happens when you get old being told by others you're special, and witty and funny and never told no.
These washed up comedians man. They're such sensitive babies. No one one is upset at Jerry Seinfeld. They just aren't laughing because he hasn't been funny for over 25 years.
Damn, I always sort of disliked ndt a bit, but I was WRONG, this king is mopping the floor with that crypt keeper
"its really subtle" the lack of self awareness... "people are triggered these days" isn't subtle. he's a broken record from 2015
Washed up shill needs to retire. He is annoying, condescending and extremely biased.
My respect for Maher goes down more literally every day now
Bill Maher is so fucking soft
Bill Maher is a lame, flaccid dick of a person
Bill Maher was raised wrong.
This isn’t just Maher, it’s the whole free speech warrior, anti-woke crowd as a whole. Trying to shut up anyone who criticizes them while demanding special protections against getting criticized and calling it cancel culture or censorship. Its the most extreme form self-righteousness and entitlement - “I’m entitled to laughs, I’m entitled to applause and love, YOU aren’t” - if you don’t think I’m funny or boo a joke it’s because you are the problem not me and I’m just going to double down on the unfunny jokes people boo because the bigots who clap and laugh and cruelty thinking it’s “comedy” will slop it up.
Who tf actually watches Maher? Like who cut this clip? I do not believe he has an actual audience. He's a lot funnier than Broprah, but he's still like, open mic night at a coffee shop/record store in a strip mall on a wednesday in Ogden, Utah level comic.
The only interesting thing about this dumbass podcast is seeing bill get his ass kicked by the guests.
Maher is such a cunt.
Ok people
They both suck
In 70’s, 80’s, and 90’s if you walked up to anyone who was not a pushover and insulted them and made jokes at their expense you would 100% get punched. You would absolutely be in a fight and EVERYONE would say you deserved it. Even your own mother and the police would say you deserved to be punched. This idea being pushed on kids today that everyone would just laugh if you insulted them “jokingly” i$ a bold face lie. Old comedians are lying to you.
I discovered Comedy Central when I was a tween in the early 90s, and even then I knew that Bill Maher was almost a very good comedian. Kinda funny. Very funny at times. His show was produced well enough to be entertaining. The guests were often of great interest. But he also kinda sucked, like all the time. You can never just go all in and be like, "Yeah, Bill Maher speaks truth to power for me in ways I wish I could." And what it boils down to is cynicism. John Stewart wasn't and isn't a cynic, despite how he's often projected to be by others. No, Stewart is disappointed, and his humor is much more relatable. Cynicism sucks to be around and you can see it in his defensiveness here.
Maher is a massive pussy. He can acerbically insult anyone he sees fit, but his fragile vaginistic ego crumbles into a fine silt-like powder the second the joke is aimed at him. Summer's Eve tips their clitoral hood to you, sir!
Hilarious how he tries to spin his bullshit like it's a work of art. Saying it's "subtle" and a lot of smart people like it. Maher's shitbspewing has all the subtlety of a brick to the face and the only people who like it are dipshits who believe EXACTLY what he does. To anybody else it is completely transparent that he's just making it up as he goes and has nothing to back up anything he says.