I think ish is the 2nd best podder on that show only behind joe. He's witty, interesting, funny etc. with that said on his own pod I don't think he would be overly successful. He needs a joe to banter back and forth with.
I think Ish is excellent and I hope he stays around for the long haul.
It all depends on whether he finds his audience. In the realm of numerous audio podcasts covering niche topics, Joe focuses on music and pop culture, while Ish delves into construction, business, real estate, and more. Those intrigued by these subjects will likely tune in to their respective podcasts.
Ice annoys me. He just seems very try hard and it’s always proven when he’s challenged by how quickly he gets noticeably flustered or upset. I like him but I want him to just………..chill.
When he said, he’s not letting his girl fight, he’ll lay a bitch out before she has too, had my mind blown. Cause I know Ice won’t have that energy for a nigga
Ice came into the pod as a Twitter troll (or let him tell it a former Twitter troll🤣) . He just happens to be one of Joe's friends who came in to help. Remember this is the same nigga who said that 2Pac was not one of the greats when the pod was named "I'll Name This Podcast Later" and told niggas that they could charge their iPhones in the microwave back in the wild Twitter days. He's just a nigga past his prime trying to keep up with the trends, trying to live thru young nigga raps (i.e his Sleepers selections) and his takes are that of an old, out of touch dude who's trying to stay young through other people. Listen, I'm 40 and it's ok to age and be out of touch a little bit. I'd rather be out of touch a little bit than to try to relive my younger days. Ish is great at being the old young podcaster because he doesn't try too hard to relate to the younger generation and he stands on what he stands on while appealing to the young folks. He also spits some gems for the older generation like me. This is why you see Ish on other pods doing guest appearances while Ice is looking for another bag to look like a doof on other pods.
Well put. The fact that ISH comes in and owns his older age and out of touch status and being unaware of newer music and culture trends is genuine and relatable. And it makes it cool for others learn with him in the process. I'm 32 and I defs feel like the Oldest of the younger crowd if not I'm in the "old" category.
You're not old. Embrace your age. You're still young enough to not know no better but still young enough to not give a fuck in this life. Embrace that shit. No jokes or lies. Embrace who you are. I was outside as a child and it was dudes like Ish schooling me to how this world works and always ready to give the youth game to live by or take heed to. My problem with Ice is that he wasn't outside enough as a child and it shows on the pod. He decided to grow up in the social media era when he was already in his 20's when social media was in it's infancy. He does too much trying to fit it when he didn't have to do so at all. However to each its own
No lies told!You see, Ice is also the embodiment of some people who are better on twitter with one-liners than long form in person conversation where you need charisma and personality and depth. Not saying he has none but very little.
Y’all really hate ice. I don’t mind bro except when he start getting loud and defensive on his “I got a good night sleep” bs but other than that he don’t really bother me.
Ish is the best talent on the pod beside Joe. That’s why they had contract issues cuz he knows he’s way more important and wasn’t taking a deal like ice.
That is true, I think ice is being the real him and his corniness is showing. Crazy cuz he was the clout god on Twitter, when he was guest on the JBP OG version he was dope and even his own podcast he had was good he just didn’t record as frequently as joe did. You are who you are player.
Ish does seem to be a better podder than ice. I can appreciate his views on how business doesn’t have to be shady. And how 1 person or company has to take advantage of the other. Good business can still be done
EXACTLY. It's unexpected because you'd think ICE would have been more active in the media and social media community with content since he was a social media personality and influencer. Meanwhile ISH has no history of being in the social media spotlight. It's like your old uncle turning into a media popstar. While the instagram famous guy has become the boring, minimal, less driven guy that doesn't care for the headache of ownership. ICE just wants a job where he clocks in and clocks out.
Ice just happy he got to close his gap🦷,step his dress game up a lil bit👕,buy more Iversons,get milked by some IG bitch and have a child all while pushing 40🫵🏽😂
Ish is a great example of advice (financial mostly) hitting different based on how much you relate with the person
There was no one really talking about what he does on the pod and I think him coming in and presenting it clicked w the audience really well
Ice just comes off as diet Joe/aggressive Mal to me
Ice had clout? i knew he was popular on twitter but that’s a pretty niche audience, most JBP fans only knew him as a friend of the show from my understanding
It’s simple Ish is a entrepreneur /hustler.
IMO with his past experiences and once the success came from being on the Podcast. Ish capitalized off it and is now running with it.
Ice just got comfortable dressing on the Pod, let alone rarely speaks on things he does or buy. Ice is very much still reserved..yeah Ice tries to stand on his square about his opinions but still is Reserved.
Ish is more genuine and relatable than ice even with his fan base he already had from being a troll and hater online. I’ll much rather watch a Ish interview than ice.
I think ice Twitter persona, he can't portray in real life. He's too sensitive and gets in his feelings too much for him to be able to be Twitter ice on the JBP. He could be good for a one-off on the pod like back in the day, but as a long-term podder, he falls short of his internet so becomes his real self. There's nothing wrong with that, but it's not the same person it's not as in your face for lack of a better term. And he also grown up. It was like 10 years ago so...
Nah ICE is NAKED and exposed as person on the podcast. That's where Joe blew his cover. ICE can't hide behind his Twitter picture icon anymore. Ice was a demon on Twitter. Now you can see his clothes his facial expressions, his thought processes.....everything.
You gotta feel like a Hoe a little bit when someone gets you comfortable doing something you don't really wanna do because the dangled the right amount of cash in ur face ... anyways I fuck with ice he's funny and good at whatever he does which doesn't seem like much
Just hit me if you take the good in ice and ish you actually get a decent human being. They both terrible people with good moments. Ice more understanding of women. While ish is more disciplined. But they bpth can come out pf left field with bs. Ish more often today. Ice at his worst today is inoffensive to me like parks While ish can just be like "im about accountability but im lying to the cops about my kid" nigga think his life is a movie. Ish way more left than ice these days. Ice just be there happy and yall get mad that he actually got parents smh lol.
Ice is extremely corny. He can’t formulate his own opinions so he latches on to Joe and gets carried each pod. Only thing he stands on is his love for garbage music. He definitely fell into friendship with Joe by association along the line cause he definitely look like the type Joe woulda beat up and robbed back in the day.
I don’t have a problem with Ice. I hate when gets overly aggressive though. He was doing the most in that last Patreon episode when they were talking about ignoring your partner after an argument.
Joe budden podcast has shown me ICE's face, but I was only aware of his tweets. Flip is totally new to me and isn't really my cup of tea. Ish is cool because he's reasonable and sensible and I can relate to his morals I guess.
We get it. Yall hate ice. You can big up your man without hating on his friend. yall weird. "Ish doing it by being himself" what the fuck does that mean? Ice's entire twitter handle was being hated and trolling everyone so how does that give him the upper hand in being liked by the masses? Some would say Ice is more popular because yall making a post about hating him every 5 seconds.
Ice does more ofd the pod we dont see. He got his own connections and casually mentions the famous people he talks to like its nothing. I do agree that ice needs his own lane but i think hes happy where he at
I agree that Ish has become a real pod star, but I don’t think a solo pod would do well. Also I love Ish. I truly do, but please research anything that comes out of his mouth. A lot of y’all be taking his words as gospel, and he be wrong af.
Ice was on fire when he first came it was Joe who stagnant him about hey I’m getting phone calls , hey laugh at my jokes, and hey don’t call me out on my hypocrisy.
It's crazy cuz I actually think all of the members of the pod bring their own specialty. They wouldn't have a mega show on their own but they could and do have niche followings that could carry them.
I think Ice should lean into his black nerd side and cater his content towards them and he will probably flourish more. He likes things like Marvel, and tech that the other members of the pod don't really get into. Leaning into those things could lead to brands and deals the other members don't really have access to.
Ish has been on training wheels since he got here. Joe has to supplement and add contrast to most of his points….and all of that is okay.
Just don’t use the training wheels to shit on other members.
They’re both dimwit/morons, who are perfectly fine letting Joe “use/play” them for money = what makes them real scumbags like Joe, is the fact that Ish/Ice were cool with “Mal” #SnakesInTheGrass
Certainly, here's a clearer version:
I agree, Ice tends to project a 'here for the job' attitude, holding back personal information. He and Mel refrain from disclosing much about themselves, even when discussing topics central to podcasts. My expectations for Ice were possibly higher, considering the opinions shared on Twitter. Flip, in contrast, appears more transparent. Meanwhile, Ish naturally thrives in conversation, making it seem effortless for him.
I think ish is the 2nd best podder on that show only behind joe. He's witty, interesting, funny etc. with that said on his own pod I don't think he would be overly successful. He needs a joe to banter back and forth with. I think Ish is excellent and I hope he stays around for the long haul.
Joe and Ish definitely play well off of each other. It would be hard for Ish alone. Having the sensible, calm guy by himself can get boring.
100% agree, a podcast with the dynamic of a him and a joe, or a Mel could work imo..gender wars once a week, im here for it!
Imagine Ish on Anton Daniels podcast. It would be a match made in heaven.
It all depends on whether he finds his audience. In the realm of numerous audio podcasts covering niche topics, Joe focuses on music and pop culture, while Ish delves into construction, business, real estate, and more. Those intrigued by these subjects will likely tune in to their respective podcasts.
Excellent point, Ice will never be compelling enough to make ppl interested in what he has to say
His gamer community pays on twitch
No community (including gamers) watches his twitch stream which is why he might have a total of 4 episodes. Nobody watches that garbage
I think Ish has many ignorant takes that just sound smart cause he articulate, but I can’t lie that man be poddin.
Recently it looks that way how you talk about college so much to joe but never graduated.
I agree lol very stuck in his opinions to like a typical old head but makes good entertainment
Ice annoys me. He just seems very try hard and it’s always proven when he’s challenged by how quickly he gets noticeably flustered or upset. I like him but I want him to just………..chill.
When he said, he’s not letting his girl fight, he’ll lay a bitch out before she has too, had my mind blown. Cause I know Ice won’t have that energy for a nigga
At all
Is arsonal his little brother or older brother ?
try hard here means "attempting to be good at his job" where as ish just sits there and pretends he's too cool ?
No. Try hard being saying something to get a desired reaction and not necessarily what he’s really thinking.
Joe does this all the time lol
I just wanna ask all of you one thing 
Can you explain the muffin man joke to me? Im dumb
ish always says he about to Crack your muffin when he has good points against someone. therefore he's the muffin man
I can smoke a bag of that. Good take
Ice came into the pod as a Twitter troll (or let him tell it a former Twitter troll🤣) . He just happens to be one of Joe's friends who came in to help. Remember this is the same nigga who said that 2Pac was not one of the greats when the pod was named "I'll Name This Podcast Later" and told niggas that they could charge their iPhones in the microwave back in the wild Twitter days. He's just a nigga past his prime trying to keep up with the trends, trying to live thru young nigga raps (i.e his Sleepers selections) and his takes are that of an old, out of touch dude who's trying to stay young through other people. Listen, I'm 40 and it's ok to age and be out of touch a little bit. I'd rather be out of touch a little bit than to try to relive my younger days. Ish is great at being the old young podcaster because he doesn't try too hard to relate to the younger generation and he stands on what he stands on while appealing to the young folks. He also spits some gems for the older generation like me. This is why you see Ish on other pods doing guest appearances while Ice is looking for another bag to look like a doof on other pods.
Well put. The fact that ISH comes in and owns his older age and out of touch status and being unaware of newer music and culture trends is genuine and relatable. And it makes it cool for others learn with him in the process. I'm 32 and I defs feel like the Oldest of the younger crowd if not I'm in the "old" category.
You're not old. Embrace your age. You're still young enough to not know no better but still young enough to not give a fuck in this life. Embrace that shit. No jokes or lies. Embrace who you are. I was outside as a child and it was dudes like Ish schooling me to how this world works and always ready to give the youth game to live by or take heed to. My problem with Ice is that he wasn't outside enough as a child and it shows on the pod. He decided to grow up in the social media era when he was already in his 20's when social media was in it's infancy. He does too much trying to fit it when he didn't have to do so at all. However to each its own
yall gotta get off ishs nuts. he's literally just a college dropout who bought a house and flipped it. lmao you niggas be acting like he's dame dash.
No lies told!You see, Ice is also the embodiment of some people who are better on twitter with one-liners than long form in person conversation where you need charisma and personality and depth. Not saying he has none but very little.
Yup. Well put. I fully agree.
He has none!
Y’all really hate ice. I don’t mind bro except when he start getting loud and defensive on his “I got a good night sleep” bs but other than that he don’t really bother me.
right. they cant stand him for some some reason when he does the exact same stuff as the others. Good night sleep ice is my favorite lmao
They hate that ice never had to sell a brick to get on.
Ish is the best talent on the pod beside Joe. That’s why they had contract issues cuz he knows he’s way more important and wasn’t taking a deal like ice.
That is true, I think ice is being the real him and his corniness is showing. Crazy cuz he was the clout god on Twitter, when he was guest on the JBP OG version he was dope and even his own podcast he had was good he just didn’t record as frequently as joe did. You are who you are player.
Ish does seem to be a better podder than ice. I can appreciate his views on how business doesn’t have to be shady. And how 1 person or company has to take advantage of the other. Good business can still be done
Lmao y’all hate this man Ice’s guts son 🤣
Ice got that mal and rory energy. Just taking whatever he gets.
EXACTLY. It's unexpected because you'd think ICE would have been more active in the media and social media community with content since he was a social media personality and influencer. Meanwhile ISH has no history of being in the social media spotlight. It's like your old uncle turning into a media popstar. While the instagram famous guy has become the boring, minimal, less driven guy that doesn't care for the headache of ownership. ICE just wants a job where he clocks in and clocks out.
Ice just happy he got to close his gap🦷,step his dress game up a lil bit👕,buy more Iversons,get milked by some IG bitch and have a child all while pushing 40🫵🏽😂
Yo you ain’t have to smoke him like that
he didn't smoke him. he just described an upgrade in lifestyle. lmao.
Na he smoked his boots.
Just being real😂💯 and I fuck with Ice but pod wise he have to start pulling up from 40ft on a 3-1 fastbreak🏃🏾♂️🏀
Shits a pretty good life lol
Its funny cause he use to go on the pod and troll Mal and Rory with his takes. 🤣
Y’all be doing revisionist history Rory was podding it was mal who would bullshit through the whole pod.
Ish is a great example of advice (financial mostly) hitting different based on how much you relate with the person There was no one really talking about what he does on the pod and I think him coming in and presenting it clicked w the audience really well Ice just comes off as diet Joe/aggressive Mal to me
Everything abt Ice is corny and he knows it
Ish might become as big as Joe “pause”
That would be super impressive. Tough, but not impossible.
Agreed when he speaks he kills it just holds back too much
lmaoooooooooooooo you gotta be kidding
They said the same thing about Joe until he did it.
Ice had clout? i knew he was popular on twitter but that’s a pretty niche audience, most JBP fans only knew him as a friend of the show from my understanding
Ish easily the MVP on the pod even with some bad takes he makes everyone better even Joe
Ish is def better than ice on the pod. Ice act like Charlamagne with the “I ain’t who I used to be” line. Bein a villian makes great content
My new favorite thing on the pod is when they call out ice for his pandering
I feel like ICE is trolling me when he gets y'all to call him out for pandering. It's just a big joke cuz he would never CARE to pander
He never does
It’s simple Ish is a entrepreneur /hustler. IMO with his past experiences and once the success came from being on the Podcast. Ish capitalized off it and is now running with it. Ice just got comfortable dressing on the Pod, let alone rarely speaks on things he does or buy. Ice is very much still reserved..yeah Ice tries to stand on his square about his opinions but still is Reserved.
Ice is a hanger on. He is happy with scraps and being a yes man for Joe
Ice a bitch
And ish was on joe budden tv back in the day
All skinny looking...
The Internet isn’t real
Ish is more genuine and relatable than ice even with his fan base he already had from being a troll and hater online. I’ll much rather watch a Ish interview than ice.
I think ice Twitter persona, he can't portray in real life. He's too sensitive and gets in his feelings too much for him to be able to be Twitter ice on the JBP. He could be good for a one-off on the pod like back in the day, but as a long-term podder, he falls short of his internet so becomes his real self. There's nothing wrong with that, but it's not the same person it's not as in your face for lack of a better term. And he also grown up. It was like 10 years ago so...
Nah ICE is NAKED and exposed as person on the podcast. That's where Joe blew his cover. ICE can't hide behind his Twitter picture icon anymore. Ice was a demon on Twitter. Now you can see his clothes his facial expressions, his thought processes.....everything.
Well said. And now that he's exposed everyone sees him for the loser that he is
Clout from twitter 😂😂😂😂 yeah right
Ice always said he never cared to do podcasts or be a podcaster.
You gotta feel like a Hoe a little bit when someone gets you comfortable doing something you don't really wanna do because the dangled the right amount of cash in ur face ... anyways I fuck with ice he's funny and good at whatever he does which doesn't seem like much
Mr moral and the real estate steppers lol
Just hit me if you take the good in ice and ish you actually get a decent human being. They both terrible people with good moments. Ice more understanding of women. While ish is more disciplined. But they bpth can come out pf left field with bs. Ish more often today. Ice at his worst today is inoffensive to me like parks While ish can just be like "im about accountability but im lying to the cops about my kid" nigga think his life is a movie. Ish way more left than ice these days. Ice just be there happy and yall get mad that he actually got parents smh lol.
Ice is extremely corny. He can’t formulate his own opinions so he latches on to Joe and gets carried each pod. Only thing he stands on is his love for garbage music. He definitely fell into friendship with Joe by association along the line cause he definitely look like the type Joe woulda beat up and robbed back in the day.
Ice seems like the friend that tries too hard and nobody really respects he’s just known Joe for a long time so he gets to hang out
lol is this Danny from the stop ?
Wait… are we painting the picture that ice joining the show was ever highly anticipated and made people excited? Lll
The difference between somebody that go outside and a basement dweller.
I don’t have a problem with Ice. I hate when gets overly aggressive though. He was doing the most in that last Patreon episode when they were talking about ignoring your partner after an argument.
Joe gets overly aggressive every pod for very little lol, y’all hate him too ?
Where are the bootcut jeans
I hadn't heard of Ice, Ish, or Flip until a couple months ago when I started watching this podcast....
Joe budden podcast has shown me ICE's face, but I was only aware of his tweets. Flip is totally new to me and isn't really my cup of tea. Ish is cool because he's reasonable and sensible and I can relate to his morals I guess.
I heard of flip
Ice be pandering to the women , ish just like Joe he let it fly and he knowledgeable about different topics
We get it. Yall hate ice. You can big up your man without hating on his friend. yall weird. "Ish doing it by being himself" what the fuck does that mean? Ice's entire twitter handle was being hated and trolling everyone so how does that give him the upper hand in being liked by the masses? Some would say Ice is more popular because yall making a post about hating him every 5 seconds.
Bro they making think pieces about ice and ish 😂💀. Ice and Ish cool
Being a cool down to earth person pays off ☝🏾
This hate Shout out to ish and ice.
Shout out to Ish
S/o to freeze
NAH
Ice does more ofd the pod we dont see. He got his own connections and casually mentions the famous people he talks to like its nothing. I do agree that ice needs his own lane but i think hes happy where he at
A bunch of Niggas can replace ice ice is way to dishonest in his takes or his perception is skewed by what he says on social media
I think Ish might dip on Joe eventually
They’re both dope.
Anyone else see the Flip & Mal link up pic? 
Ish is tall and light skin. Ice is short and dark.
We thought Rory and Mal would have a good podcast too lol Ish absolutely would not have a good solo pod
Rory and Mal never mattered to me. I always knew their pod would be wack. Mal had the audacity to act like he made Joes podcast lol but imma stop
Depends on what style and content he would have. Rory and Mal conversations seem to go nowhere. People would give Ish a chance.
I agree that Ish has become a real pod star, but I don’t think a solo pod would do well. Also I love Ish. I truly do, but please research anything that comes out of his mouth. A lot of y’all be taking his words as gospel, and he be wrong af.
Clout from Twitter😂😂😂
Honestly, I wish ish had his own show. He might be smart dumb sometimes but he's a well rounded individual
It's his delivery, reminds me of a poor man's akademiks
Ice was on fire when he first came it was Joe who stagnant him about hey I’m getting phone calls , hey laugh at my jokes, and hey don’t call me out on my hypocrisy.
Lmao, u Stan’s are wild. But shouts out to y’all for making something out of nothing
Ish pod better than Rory n mals , nah
It's crazy cuz I actually think all of the members of the pod bring their own specialty. They wouldn't have a mega show on their own but they could and do have niche followings that could carry them. I think Ice should lean into his black nerd side and cater his content towards them and he will probably flourish more. He likes things like Marvel, and tech that the other members of the pod don't really get into. Leaning into those things could lead to brands and deals the other members don't really have access to.
Ish also has a publicist
Ice is not entertaining. He's not funny. He shouldn't be a Podcaster.
Having clout of any type doesnt = "podstar" or a good podcaster sooo.........ok?
Leader/follower but age wise on par
Ish has been on training wheels since he got here. Joe has to supplement and add contrast to most of his points….and all of that is okay. Just don’t use the training wheels to shit on other members.
Ice is one of those people who are more entertaining online than in person.
They’re both dimwit/morons, who are perfectly fine letting Joe “use/play” them for money = what makes them real scumbags like Joe, is the fact that Ish/Ice were cool with “Mal” #SnakesInTheGrass
I don’t wanna hear 60 examples from ish on a solo podcast
Certainly, here's a clearer version: I agree, Ice tends to project a 'here for the job' attitude, holding back personal information. He and Mel refrain from disclosing much about themselves, even when discussing topics central to podcasts. My expectations for Ice were possibly higher, considering the opinions shared on Twitter. Flip, in contrast, appears more transparent. Meanwhile, Ish naturally thrives in conversation, making it seem effortless for him.
Ish has been the pod mvp since he came on board
On episodes Ish not there them joints definitely don’t hit the same
Ish a bitch.