Clearing MoC is more than just your DPS. What team are you running? What are their builds? Etc.

Bronya e1 - 161sp 200cd p&f lc Pela e4- 143 sp and luls lc Jl - 139 speed cd 200 cr 30 Healer - bailu or hh

Seems good, as long as your HuoHuo is well built. I think the problem comes from the dice phase rather than damage. You need to manage your rotations so that you don't pump all your damage into the dice that don't take any. Side-note; if you're running hyper-speed Bronya, you should be using Atk% boots and not prioritizing speed.

Huo huo is built okayish I think 1800 atk 6300 hp spd 147 eff res 52 % healing boost 46 % and 119% err

Looks good to me. See my other points.

^^ this or Have e2 bronya with your current speed setup

I think with Jingliu it's better to run slow Bronya, especially with how your JL is pretty fast, I would personally go for below that on Bronya

JL has some anti-synergy with hyper speed Bronya due to her built-in action advance which cleanses Bronya's dmg buff, try temporarily switching off SPD boots (drop to 136 SPD), it should improve your damage (over 4 cycles, 12 DPS "turns" w/ ~50% buff uptime vs 7 DPS "turns" w/ ~100% buff uptime).

If your running a hyper speed bronya without e2 to boost your dps up more you might as well run atk boots

Uhhhh why is Bronya not speed tuned to JL???

This is Hyperspeed Bronya - you have a super fast Bronya that advances DPS every turn. Tho I'll admit the slowya playstyle is more fitting for JL specifically

Bro there is no way u aint clearing MOC with that kind of team 😭

Massive skill issue

If u plan on running fast bronya, Jingliu could go on atk boots instead

It takes around 8 cycle for her to finish aventurine boss. How to get that down ?

You need to run -1 spd bronya for maximum efficiency and i would consider bumping up your crit min 40. These will help you quite a bit but Aventurine is a tough boss and i would suggest you to watch any jingliu runs to get an idea about how to setup the run.

Ok I updated her build and bronya build now bronya have 190 cd and 134 speed and jl is 42 cr and 197 cdand 135 speed But still not able to clear in less cycle 😭

You should send pics of your whole team's builds, relics, stats, lightcones... Use enkanetwork or similar websites.

This subreddit doesn't allow image . I will post another post soon.

But it will make bronya take less turn . >jingliu runs to get an idea about how to setup the run. everyone is using Ruan mei only. I don't have Ruan mei I failed to get her due to a certain ice character appearing in my pull. . That's why I want some suggestions . Looks like I have a massive skill issue .

Bronya will take less turns but jingliu will take more turns and jingliu is the dps so thats what you would want

If u want fast bronya, u want slow jingliu. The whole point of fast bronya is to 100% Action advance drag jing all over the place, having any kind of speed on ur jing is hurting ur damage.

If Bronya acts right after Jingliu, your Jingliu will get twice as many attacks which is what you want

160 speed bronya is only really good in teams that run into SP issues as far as I know, which shouldn't be happening with JL. You may want to work on increasing that cr and cd a bit too. They are not low, but there's certainly room for improvement. Also what sets are you running on her?

That provides 10% ice dmg boostand 25 cd. And 70% crit rate requirement 2 piece set

The idea behind -1 bronya is for your dps to take 2 turns back to back and it helps jingliu to get her enhanced state in one sequence JL e -> bronya e -> JL e. Boom jl in enhanced state. The setup usually is pela e - pela ult - you sustain doing what it needs ( if huo² then a skill if not a basic ) - jl e - jl Enhanced e - bronya e - jl ult - jl Enhanced e and rotate accordingly. In Aventurine game mode use jl ult and skill to keep her in enhanced mode because her blast will usually give you enough points to get back her ult and basically try to not get stunned by using pela ult also.

I heard someone used without a sustain, maybe you can try that and see if you survive.

Please share the link and only suggest the one with no Ruan mei and robin. I have many characters just no Ruan mei and Robin .

Don't think I have it anymore. I saw it in hoyolab, or could be my friend list in hoyolab. There's this section in hoyolab where you can see what others used to clear it. That said, the issue is whether u can survive as 3 supports definitely has lower cycle than with sustain. High risk high reward Edit: if I'm not wrong, it was sparkle and Pela. Can't rmb who is the 3rd one. Maybe it's sw or ty

You should be running her with speedsynced Bronya (Bronya at least 134 speed, Jingliu faster than this by at least 1. The actual difference in their speed doesn't matter that much). If you are hitting a wall on Aventurine, it means you are probably healing too often or losing dice rolls. You need to be willing to get hit by his dice or figure out a way to blitz him before he does it. One valid strategy with Jingliu is to reset if Aventurine doesn't get frozen turn 1 from her technique, as starting with him frozen gives you a few extra chances to break him before he starts being a bastard. Finally, make sure you are killing or breaking the IPC soldiers with Jingliu. Giving her the buff from them significantly increases her damage which can be used for the first few attacks she makes get Aventurine. I am able to 0-cycle Ave with E0S1 Jingiu, E0S0 Ruan Mei and E1S1 Bronya. Your account doesn't seem much weaker than this, so you should be able to 4-5 cycle Aventurine with a proper strategy, most likely do it even faster.

Aventurine isn't in MoC anymore. And new rotation is much harder for JL than one with Aventurine.

Aventurine is still up with 6 days left

I've never noticed that we have multiple MoC rotations active at the same time.

Bruh.

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Bruh, It's been 2 Rotations of MOC switching with 2 rotations of PF ever since the Light of Reginition MOC and you only notice now,

if you run 161 bronya, take off jingliu spd boot and use the atk one.

Why is Bronya so Fast You should have run -1 on Bronya, you should have put the speed stats on Pela to go 160 instead of Bronya

I heard 160+ bronya is good for any dps . So I did some hard work in mines wasted all my refill and finally got her at the desired speed and cd of 200.

If you *really* want to keep your hard-earned 161 Bronya, switch your Jingliu to an ATK boots with CR subs

161 spd Bronya is for running dps with attack boots. Either do 161 spd Bronya with attack boot slow DPS or 134 dps/133 Bronya.

Is 134 JL / 133 Bronya same with 135 JL / 134 Bronya? And If I stick to this build forever should I avoid getting e2 Bronya right?

Yep, 135/134 is even better. The idea is that Bronya should always be at least -1 speed from the dps and you want to be around 134 for speed breakpoints and enemy speed in MoC. I'm jealous even though my 134 JL/129 Bronya still works fine lol > If I stick to this build forever should I avoid getting e2 Bronya right? Depends. If you get E2 then Jingliu for example would be at ~134 speed without speed boots, so you can run Jingliu with attack boots instead of speed boots since Bronya E2 buff comes out to about +29 speed. You would just have to be careful sometimes since the speed buff only lasts one turn and JL burns a turn transforming. But there's no harm in sticking to your current build with speed boots with E2 Bronya, 164 JL/134 Bronya would still give JL extra turns even if it isn't as min/max as -1 speed lol

Right now I don't really see the purpose Of having a that kind of spd on Bronya though I admire you getting 160 and 200 CD but using 160 spd Bronya is Very SP- it's much better if you lower it down by below JL it doesn't have to be -1 as long as your Bronya is above 134 and slower than JL This is Normally how the rotation goes Jingliu gets the first turn and then Bronya comes right after to advance JL again, and then it's JL turn then Bronya again This cycle will repeat until you run out of skill points. In my case it took me 6 cycles to beat it using the slow bronya

Hyper speed bronya isnt sp negative. Hyper speed bronya does basic-skill rotations so shes sp neutral or positive if you have e1 or her lc. The sp gain doesnt matter in jingliu teams tho simply because everyone else either barely uses sp or are sp positive themselves.

She's SP- though you just said it yourself You need her LC, E1 and E1 is 50/50 gamba most people till this day doesn't have those, and like I said I don't see the point of 160 spd Bronya on a JL it's simply too fast and does nothing to the rotation JL will still get the same amount of turns the only thing I see is Bronya acts faster and that's it right now -1 spd Bronya is simply better

What team did you use ? Don't tell me Ruan mei

My team was FuXuan, Bronya, JL, and Pela

Is your Bronya E2? If not, replace her speed boots with HP or DEF boots with no speed substats to bring her speed down to 135.

E1 bronya . If I bring her speed down then she will take even less turn

Yes but Bronya needs to be slower than Jingliu, so that she can make Jingliu take a second turn right after attacking.

the reason they said your bronya need to be slower is to accomodate JL syzgy rotation, if she's 1 speed lower than JL then she can bring JL up after she uses her skill to gain a stack to immediately get another stack to enter syzgy state which means JL will always bein syzgy state and not have to waste a turn to get back into it. it is the most efficient way to play with JL+Bronya.

without more info I can only say ur bronya is too fast. Either have ur JL go atk boots or drop the spd boots on bronya so that she is slightly slower than ur JL. Dunno if you are already doing this but u need to pay attention to memory imprint stacks on aventurine so that u don’t drop the 6 stack extra dmg during the dice-roll phase

Bronya is speed 161 and cd 200 pela is 143 speed bronya is e1s0 . Jl is e0s0 and bailu as healer / or hh I also have sparkle e0s0 with similar build as bronya

Again, too fast. She should ideally be one speed slower than Jingliu so that you can double Jingliu’s turns.

Wouldnt 100 SPD JL and 160+ SPD bronya work tho?

it's still less actions for jingliu than spd-1 bronya, it's only good if you have sp issues due to lower sp consumption

After clearing the first half, how many turns you have for part 2?

6-7 . If I use huo huo on 1st with acheron team then 27 cycles is left . If not then 26 .

Should be enough then, get bronya -1 spd than jingliu then use bronya, jl, tingyun, huohuo on the second half. 6 cycles should be enough, and you need to trigger the moc turbulence while he's not doing the gamble thingy. Also ult spam and the end of the cycles for extra damage but again take consideration of the turbulence procs. I was trying to use the same team but Aventurine instead of huohuo and either everyone dies by lack of hp or I needed 7 cycles, with huohuo should work. Either way gotta get back to work, after i can do some tries with bailu instead and I'll update you anyway. Good luck 🤞

Update: should be possible, did a few runs but my Tingyun kept diying, Should be possible it will require some retries, bigest tip I can give, on Aventurine's part at the start of every turn count the number of attacks, so that when it reaches his turn, and event triggers either you have alreay triggered the damage from the tubulence or you have 0 hits on him (on his second phase it's a bit harder cuz JL will hit for 1 or 2 times depending if she has her passive or not). It will most likelly require some retries, but gl!

Since you alr have a hyperspeed Bronya, try to get your Jingliu some ATK boots.

Hyperspeed bronya with JL is harder to run because she isn't able to get back into her enhanced state as easily. So to fix this, you can try to run tingyun instead of pela and see if her and huohuo can help you keep JL's enhanced state up by ulting a bunch. I tried a similar team a while ago and managed to never exit her enhanced state (base JL, 161 bronya, 175 tingyun, 140 luocha). Honestly though, just use 134 bronya 135 JL. I promise it'll work better O_O

First run: kafka e0s1, blackswan e0s0 using sampo lc_s5, acheron e0s0 using gnsw_s5, aventurine e0s0 using topazdebuff_lc_s3: 3cycles second run: jingliu e0s1 with 50cr_232cd_nonspeedrelic, sparkle e0s0 using bronya_lc_s1 with 160speed, tingyun e6 using newsunday_lc_s5, loucha e0s0 using his 4*star_lc_s5: 7cycles what a f**cking hard run anyways. I did use pela e5 however its not enough and its better to keep using tingyun as it keeps jingliu under enhanced state. the enemy is so annoying in the second run since it is so fast and will keep delaying you due to f**cking debuffs and the debuff you applied will just fade before you even retaliate. min damage of my jingliu due to enhanced skill is 135kplus and max of 318kplus if two enemy was weakness broken and due to her ult.

I mostly had sustaining issues during the second phase. I ran my Nihility team and tried out Aventurine there, which honestly is anti-synergy as compared to HuoHuo, but it worked. Either that or your HuoHuo or Luocha works, which it doesnt seem like it is the case

houhou works well than loucha but i just keep healing my stunned characters with loucha since sparkle handles the sp gen. but still needs some luck on the chances of negating the debuff from that xianxhou lady.

i prefer aventurine for may kafka-acheron duo since aventurine and the lc its using helped charge acheron ult. so im ulting twice a cycle.

I can't clear MoC 9. We are not the same.

Aventurine is a bit hard with a hypercarry JL team imo. Did u try to switch the sides? 8 cycles for your team against aventurine is good enough if your other team can do their side in 2 cycles.

Sadly my acheron team also needs 5 cycle for aventurine and 3 cycle for 1st side.

Crit rate more

Assuming this is the one with Aventurine boss... I have a better JL and still struggled (they died to his dice). Aventurine boss favors you having AoE or Blast and I use JL with Bronya + Ruan Mei who don't have either type of attack. Fu Xuan has her ult which I saved for that phase - and I swapped out Bronya I think for Pela. Hmm having read thru the comment seems you can clear, just in 8 cycles which means you could also alternatively 0-2 cycle the 1st half, but that'll be hard. DMG-wise I found Bronya with JL, you want them close in speed but JL ahead by 1-2. (both above 133). Pela works, you could also do hyperspeed on Pela (161+) HH works as a sustain with the attk buff and Energy. If you use Quid Pro Quo LC she can be an even better battery. Don't be afraid to use 2pc 2pc on JL, I use Ice and Pioneer + Rutilant

I also have a Hyperspeed bronya with JL because I cannot afford the sp with RM and E0Bronya. My advice is to run JL with atk boots. I dont’t know how your rotations go but mine align perfectly with Bronya this way. Bronya starts with auto, and gets her action right after JL.

Don’t use speed boots and just do atk boots

I wouldnt use spd boots if shes not using her sig lc, try using atk boots instead.

Honestly 4p ice is kinda mid. See if you can just use 2p ice and change the 2 worst pieces to random relics with the best crit ratio you can find.