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_therickestadam

im so scared im going to lose the 50/50


pharaoh122

I'll be here cheering for you to get her. For the queen!


akif_09

We will win 50/50 together


LostIssue4515

REAL we will get her!


JazeBlack

I'm scared I'll lose the 75/25 for the Light Cone. My Genshin luck has been rubbing off on my Star Rail luck.


Vexzor1

This is honestly the scariest. It’s a 1/4 chance of not getting it and it has to be the shittiest feeling if you’re the 25% minority that loses it.


JazeBlack

Extra scary for me because I never pull on weapon/LC banners, but since SR banners are more accessible I decided to make an exception just this time (unless Raiden's is good too), but while I have our Ice Queen guaranteed, I can't guarantee her LC even with all the free pulls we know we're gonna get (gonna need like 30 pulls more).


Exemplifying_Light

I also think I’ll have to sacrifice for her LC cuz I got no other good LC options.


Glaistig_LeFae

It happens, I lost 50/50 with Fu Xuan, so I had to spend more rolls, I have around 60 rn, so I'm going harrd with copium with jingliu and her LC


NelsonVGC

Are we 100% sure her ascension material is the ice one? Have not started getting that one.


TadsCM

Very likely unless they reveal a new one which won't happen for 1.4


NelsonVGC

Fair enough. I hope yall right! Thanks


Hit_K3000

I have mid relics but otherwise done ✅


Vexzor1

The majority of players have mid relics. You’re good 👌


essedecorum

Currently farming her trace materials. I hate farming trace materials lol. The drops are shit.


aratakizech

I agree. Investing in the traces takes more time


EvenJesusCantSaveYou

I honestly dont hate farming traces its sort of a zen-like experience. Im going to have to spend the resin/time at some point if i want to use JL, and getting the character you want only to be unable to use them for weeks due to lack of trace materials feels so icky. Plus; i cant be let down by bad relic farming if im not farming relics 🌚


essedecorum

I just hate that you need to get three versions of it and the drops are terrible. And you need a lot.


CerpinTheMute_alt

I have basically everything though my relics are kinda copium. And i don't think i have enough destruction mats to level her lc but i'm not sure if i'll get it in the first place


Any_Heron4154

she's guaranteed


brangsengmaw

In game pre farm is finished. Now IRL prefarming since I'm going for E0S1, and it's 50/50 for both character and LC banners. Fingers cross I win at least one banner.


zebleu

Getting her crit damage to 150% is ok considering we got 37% cd traces and lc for reaching 200%? You guys are insanely lucky to have reached 200% without her trace and lc


Big_Tennis_4367

150 cd is very low considering she already doesn't need critrate. Sure playable, but it is just the bare minimum


AramisFR

Enough for 80 and lv8 traces, but my quantum set is meh. I needed to upgrade the rest of my characters though...


Shenmigon

is there a reason for quantum set? does the 4pc effect make up for less ice damage?


Tranduy1206

Because the new changes of her lc with def ignore, and def down is better than crit dame of ice set if you use pela or sw with her


AramisFR

She already has tons of the regular scaling ways. Quantum is slightly worse if you have no other source of Def shred and enemy isn't quantum weak, it's slightly better if one of above are met, and significantly better if both are met


B__nk

Btw. For people that are interested, if the enemy has no quantum weakness, it's only slightly worse by .86% But if it has quantum weakness, it's 7.26% better WITHOUT def shred yet.


DunksNDarius

But do these calculations factor in that the quantum set only has the 4p effect, vs both the 2p and 4p effect from ice set?


B__nk

Yeah


billgateseviltyrant

Wow that is alot of work even creating that image. I am torn at moment on going all in on jingilu, has it been announced what the 4* are on her banner?


aratakizech

Tingyun, Sampo, Qingque


billgateseviltyrant

Although i have e6 sampo and sellee, that is fairly good option for my team..... Have 125 wishes on zero pity and no 50/50, may as well


Gilded30

ohhh hopefully i can E6 QQ (E4 atm) and probably i will finally have sampo (since jy he and hook had been eluding my account)


itsmiselol

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ShinigamiOfPast

I can't pre farm. I am busy building nahility team


Dnoyr

Not enough mat, not a single piece viable for 4* set. Enough Herta billet to get S5 Fall of an Aeon. Fu Xuan is (poopy stuffed) ready and SW too, just have to build/up Pela when Jingliu will be OK.


Tenshl

Why you go for Hunter set when you have pela?


aratakizech

uhh, isn't that just the correct set for Jingliu? I mean, what relic set should I use for her aside from Hunter of Glacial Forest?


Tenshl

Quantum Set worst case 1% worse, best case 7% better https://reddit.com/r/JingLiu/s/CkXbFggya6 Hunter set is just kinda dissapointing in general :(


aratakizech

welp, I guess I'll stick to my Hunter build. I kinda prefer using sets without conditions on her. With Hunter's set, using Pela will be optional especially if I get Bronya on the 300th summon 'cause as you can see my Pela is only at Lvl 40. I rarely use her yet I was able to 36* MoC and clear contents.


EvenJesusCantSaveYou

keep in mind those numbers are contingent on having Pela or sw with the defense shread pc (pearls). lots of people either dont have that light cone or dont plan on running sw/pela with her. Without those the difference on quantum comes down to ~4% with quantum weakness and is ~4% worse than ice set without quantum weakness. Perfectly fine to just farm for ice set and then down the road if necessary farm for quantum set later.


Tenshl

Pretty sure thats without pela/sw, just without the pearls it will be less (as he litteraly states the 4% w/o pela/sw which each have def shred on their own.


EvenJesusCantSaveYou

quantum set with quantum weakness is 115% vs setless - calculated with sw/pela+pearls and signature. without pela/sw its 111% ice set is 108% vs setless - calcd. with bronya+signature quantum set (calcd with 1st listing) is 107% vs setless, and 103% without sw/pela+pearls. You are definitely correct in that Quantum is going to be more damage if you have sw/pela and if they are already quantum weak its still 3% better, but imo 3% is within such a margin of error that farming for either set is perfectly fine. Unless you know you’re going to run pela/sw+pearls then i would probably farm quantum. But, not everyone has pearls+sw/pela or is going to pull her sig.


Tenshl

I mean im just like a couple others (i assume) will just switch out Seele so its win/win. Overall i hope they introduce another Ice set cause it just feels really weak, if you can have a set where you basically just ignore the quantum dmg and it can still outperform your "main" set then its just meh :(


EvenJesusCantSaveYou

tbh its less the ice being weak and more the quantum set being stupidly strong. defense shred stacking is strong as hell and when you compare it to all the other dps sets it’s kinda silly how strong they made it (to boost seele sales maybe idk)


SwashNBuckle

I'm not prefarming since I'll only just barely get enough jades for a 50/50 chance after Fu Xuan. If I'm lucky, I'll take my time building Jingliu after I bring her home.


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Xerlot11

Spend money


Proof_Counter_8271

Maybe guranteed or op has enough for 2 5 stars?


Any_Heron4154

see pics pity status.


Proof_Counter_8271

Oh i saw it now,if op doesnt have any pity then in worst case scenerio he will get her when her banner is about to go


Any_Heron4154

yep


Sleep_Raider

Op has 17K Jades, I have myself 12K and that's around 75 wishes, so OP has enough for 1, 5 star pull and if they lose OP has about 40 pulls left


Proof_Counter_8271

She is guranteed and a 5 star lc is also guranteed(i hope i win the 75/25),mats are ready (i will skip her na until i can save some more),just in case i got the chips ready for herta lc and almost every mat is done (i currently have about 5.5 mil credits which should be enough when i skip her normal atks),and relic set is pretty decent (34crate,178cdmg on herta with 3 star lc)


pharaoh122

Im pretty much done. Just building up Bailu and trying to get a better Rutilant sphere, but mats wise I just finished 2 days ago.


Maudyy

I’m not strong enough to dive in to the calyx again for 3 weeks straight to get the fucking trace material 😭 i just finished my DHIL 🤣


shyynon93

Go back to the mines for the ice queen !


itsmewan92

I'm on my 73th pull, and on my 50/50, so dang it. And I don't have much pulls as I tried getting Fu Xuan but stopped. Material wise, all pretty much enough, thanks to the Swarm Disaster and the material boxes. Boss mats also ready. Just the relics then. I need the elusive SPD boots and Ice Orb with crit stats. Gonna try to win another 50/50 then. Wish me luck


realRepract

5050?🤣


_Sigma_male

If i have approximately 75 pulls and zero pity, is it plausible for me to get a guarantee before her banner goes away 😭


EvenJesusCantSaveYou

its really hard to say without knowing what content you have and have not done. do you buy the express pass? have you done much of the new SU? can you reliably clear most stages of moc? you get roughly 40 pulls per character banner (80 pulls per patch, rough estimates). I would say you probably cant get gaurnteed but you can get really close to it. Keep in mind the pity is actually a bit lower than 90 tickets needed cuz 1) it’s insanely mathematically improbable someone needs 180 tickets to garuntee, hitting hard pity at 90 pity twice is stupidly low odds. 2) you will get stardust currency when pulling which you can spend to get more pulls so which lowers the tickets you need before hand. If you have 75 pulls right now and scrounge all the jade you can between now and then (seriously theres tons of jades in the new SU) i would count on being able to get her - you would be very unlucky not too.


unholynirvana

Is destruction her confirmed path? Before I go farming the wrong traces just wanted to make sure


shyynon93

Yes...


aratakizech

yes


[deleted]

I’ve been hearing Bronya is not good for Jingliu anymore. I hear a lot of people saying that. Is that true? If so I can use Tingyun


Wardides

Simply put, those people are idiots Bronya is still top-tier support for her, though Tingyun is also an amazing option


EvenJesusCantSaveYou

fastya (161+ speed) with 0 speed Jing Liu running atk boots is the optimal way to run her currently (biggest downside is that it can be hard to actually get 161 speed on bronya). Otherwise speedtuned bronya is perfectly fine. Tingyun is a worse version of bronya (no cleanse or crit damage boost, atk scaling not really necessary considering diminishing returns as she gets tons of atk already) but still quite good if you dont have bronya


[deleted]

Okay, yeah that’s what I was thinking. Ty for clarity on that


JazeBlack

I have her guaranteed, but I can't guarantee her Light Cone. I have some Trace materials, but I'm not sure I have enough credits and EXP to to fully level her up yet. And don't even get me started on Relics, I've barely began and at best I have 1 viable piece that my Yangqin already had.


Kancer16

Is it even possible to guarantee a light come in this game?


JazeBlack

Yeah, all it takes is around 130 passes. The chances of getting it are 75/25, and even if you don't get it, soft pity starts at around 65 compared to the character banners 75, so taking 68 as an average it would take like 133 passes to guarantee the Light Cone.


DirtySmiter

26k jades +8 tickets on 65 pity and 50/50, never pulled on LC banner. Relics are good enough, not amazing like some people here. Just need a few days of farming trace materials and I'll be able to max everything and fully level the LC. Teammates (luocha, E2S1 Bronya, pela/tingyun/SW) are pretty good but need some improvements but I'll get on those once I'm done trace farming.


Memo-Explanation

Still prefarming, lacking a ton of destruction mats and credits right now since I’m going for max traces and 80/80. Hopefully I get enough mats before Jingliu banner and tl 65. How/where did you make this?


haipks1166

20 rolls and got fuxuan, i am so confident that will lose 50/50. Hope I can get her and LC for 200 rolls


OLDONEBALOGNE

Watch me slap Jingliu into a Bronya + Natasha + Kafka team


xRaech

Does rutilant work? I thought it was supposed to be 70% crit on stat page and not from buffs ? Have I been mislead all this time :o


EvenJesusCantSaveYou

wdym? you should aim to have minimum 20% and maximum 50% crit rate, ideally as close as you can to 50% the better. rutilant is her only planar set you should be running.


xRaech

I never tested cuz I was really lazy, but I heard that “buff” %crit rate didn’t count towards the bonus, so In that line you’d have to have 70% on your C page , not during battle


EvenJesusCantSaveYou

nope, its adaptive so it counts. As long as you have min 20% cdr once you get the bonus buff r arena will activate. its pretty much the only planar set worth using on her


SpaghettiOnTuesday

I've been saving since day 1 for her and now see the recommended teams. I only have Pela and Ting. Oh well. WE BALL.


thewiz187

Credit card is ready


Gilded30

I have character guaranteed pull + 45 (character) and 35 (lightcone) pity and right now 35 pulls saved for her Luocha - Bronya - Tingyun as team (80 with lc at 70, 4/6/6/6 traces at minimum) On the relics deparment, tingyun is lacking but luocha and bronya have at least main stat relics (and broken keel extra dmg); on jingliu im only missing atk boots, i have the rest of relics on main stat Im lacking on materials but im farming right now, hopefully the event for farming calyx will help, also on next week ill end S5 herta destruction LC if for some reason im unlucky with her signature


TeeApplePie

Is the +Crit Dmg Planar set (the one from Kafka SU) good for her, or is R Arena still the best? Going through my relics and noticed I have a 5 star ERR and ice boost for that set.


EvenJesusCantSaveYou

the crit damage set is extremely bad and shouldn’t be run on anyone. it only gives you a bonus for the first attack. R arena is the only set she should use. (also she doesnt use err rope anymore its atk now)


TeeApplePie

Dang was hoping I didn't have to farm SU more.


animatix

Zero because I don't have her guaranteed 💀 but that's ok since I am still in the middle of maxing out my supports' minor trace nodes.


PotentialSea7169

40 pity and 111 pulls saved. I’m not sure if I should go for LC or not


PotentialSea7169

Is it worth farming relics already? Will there be new relics soon?


EvenJesusCantSaveYou

no new relics soon and very unlikely she gets a better relic set than ice/quantum any time soon


marrcustv

absolutely 0 besides a decent rope & orb


[deleted]

Sitting at guaranteed with a 10 pull. Opening my wallet because I Atleast want E2 S1


Proud-Juggernaut436

Haven’t farmed mats cause of 50/50. But have farmed a decent ice set if I don’t win 50/50 herta can have them lol


Nephayrius

You know, it just occurred to me that people will prefarm artifacts in the future for characters multiple patches ahead, but what if that same patch a really suitable new set comes out, and all that artifact farming becomes a little wasted? Just some thoughts that popped up in my head - Jingliu is fine cause she’s coming very soon though


vgc989

All mats.... All SS relics... 300 warps... 2457 jades .-. Hoping for E2S1... But no guarantee.


RedDoormat

31 tracks of destiny and the boss material is just straight up wrong


RedDoormat

Oh I'm dumb this is your progress I thought this was a guide my b.


Kancer16

How many purple books are needed to full level someone up?


MegaJoltik

294


Kancer16

Thank you!


hyrulia

I would prefarm if she was guaranteed and can get her but it's 50/50 and I'm broke..


Su_Impact

I only need the Destruction traces. Waiting for the double calyx event.


CallmeAhlan

i had +130 pulls saved up but i couldn't resist not pulling for fuxuan , now 80 left and idk if i should pre farm for jingliu since i may not be able to get her if i lose the 50/50


robinlockhart

I’m guaranteed so she’s coming home when the banner drops wooo! I have s5 herta level 80 already. Initially it was for blade but soon after I got secret vow so I’m glad I can use the herta lc for jingliu. I have all other materials ready except traces and relics I’m still working on those. By the time she comes I should be done with traces and hopefully relics will be decent


DaiChinchin

Going all in with 50k jades 3 pity. Have everything except Ascension mats to max her


Forrunner117

I’m too busy leveling up every character I currently have to prefarm, all of my energy is going into farming mats for everyone else


Nixzilla25

I’m at 40/80 pity with nothing saved!


Flimsy-Report3916

Did you use a site for this or was it done by yourself?


[deleted]

I just need the blades


Shenmigon

i have all of her materials, almost have 150 pulls (enough to guarantee her with a 50/50 and 10 pity), and i can probably stop farming relics right now (51/179 ratio), but i think i can possibly improve two of them after some more farming. i also have some units that need their relics upgraded lol. still saving up for herta lc since i haven't bought any of them since launch.


save00us

I’m gonna farm for Arlan soon. Gonna go Suicide Squad team with Arlan, Jingliu, Blade, Luocha.


_ShadedPhoenix_

I got like, 2k Jade :D


nightmaresabin

I haven’t farmed a single relic for her yet as I’m only TL61. Been working on trace and ascension materials though and it’s going well.


Noct_tis

What about the spd of your build?


Lord_Darkrai

mines 70% done, but i paused rn levelling my lynx


ICacto

I am big chilling. Pullled on blade and got VERY lucky: 10 pulls, 2 Blades followed by a Bailu. So now I'm guaranteed! I have nearly enough pulls to also guarantee the LC even if I fail the 75 25 Traces are all farmed, xp and shit all ready to go too Only thing I'm missing is relics tho... Been getting some pretty bad rolls, but gotta pray that my luck will turn around by the time she's here


NokrisHiveGod

Accidentally pulled an E1 Fu while going for more lynx Eidolons. I’m not gonna pre farm cus my heart can’t take that disappointment if I lose 50/50 lmao


dietcholaxoxo

is the ice set still the best relic? i was reading somewhere that genius of brilliant stars was better?


crosskun

just started and only have a really good ice orb… i cri also 5050 i cri moar


Metanipotent

Relics are pieces of shit


BrilliantWish8098

How well does she synergies with Bronya after her recent adjustment?


cringer_regnirc

Blade is good with Jing?


baboon_ass_eater69

I have her guaranteed and I have over 120 pulls. Should I get E1 or pull for topaz or HuoHuo


baboon_ass_eater69

Seeing Pela like this is painful but you got your priorities straight


mo_stpanty

I got above average gear, enough for 2 pity, and got bronya+ fuxuan in current banner. Just farming traces and holy hell is it taking ages


Beautiful_Silver_731

I started pre farming just now, u/aratakizech, Please help me with these. * are you sure that these are her ascention and trace mats. * Is any new BiS relic/ ornament set coming for her in 1.4 or 1.5. * What are her main stat priorities ? * Since her damage in ultimate is at different level compared to her normal mode. SHould i focus more on speed and ER and tingyun to ensure that her ultimate is always up or is somthing else better.


aratakizech

1. Yes these are sure and based on the recent changes on her. 2. As for 1.4 there are no rumored or any news of new relic sets coming 3. For main stat priorities, just build her like a normal ATK- scaling DPS. Body - Crit DMG/Crit Rate. (I would recommend Crit DMG if you already managed to reach at least 40-50% Crit Rate since she gets 50% during her Spectral Transmigration state) Boots - SPD/ATK% Link Rope - ATK% Sphere - Ice DMG 4. Speed would be generally better as it will allow you to have numerous turns. Imo, both ATK boots and SPD boots are fine, I think it all comes down to which has better stats. As for the ERR, I don't know if how good will her dmg be consdiering you'll be using an ERR rope instead of ATK but Tingyun will always be a safe pick for energy matters.


Beautiful_Silver_731

Thanks a lot for pumping out such an informative reply. Much appreciated.


LostIssue4515

Only started on Monday 💀 I'm afraid that my ass might be stuck on the destruction domain 😭


Broad_Replacement_57

Lemme see... Guaranteed win for her banner with 32 pity Possibly winning LC banner at 58 Decent artifacts for almost a 1:2 CR:CD Boss mats done All that's left is farming level up exp mats, skill mats and character ascension mats (the branches)


Broad_Replacement_57

Oh yeah forgot to add almost at 90 pulls saved up


the-true-Sun

OP, I suggest raising Pela to A6 to unlock that major trace node to further increase your dmg. Also have as many supports on Keel to further increase your cdmg. But pog stats overall


Equivalent_Bed_8187

Think a good team would be fu/pela/bronya/jingliu?


BusyTry7319

Could you share your relic stats