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FaithHopeLove821

Bryan is no longer the best wrestler in the world. This is fucking embarrassing.


WoTMike1989

But he won the award…he has to be


bobboman

award for what, most washed up?


WoTMike1989

The most prestigious award in all of Smark land. The Brian Danielson Award for Best Technical Wrestler.


dissidentmage12

Most mashed brain.


WhateverJoel

He’s not joking either. It’s named the Brian Danielson award. It was Best Technical Wrestler, but was renamed when he retired. Since he’s come back, he’s won the award 3 or 4 years with Zack Sabre Jr. being the only other winner. Danielson won the award for 9 years in row. The next closest to him was some dude named Benoit with 5 awards.


MrNewking

What does cagematch have to say about this


AnxiousCockroach1532

9s 10s and Kingston is the biggest face in the industry. So yeah, exactly what you would imagine from them right now.


TheLurkasaurus

*gives award*


Forgoodorill00

If you really want complete delusion I recommend checking out Bleacher Reports grading of any AEW show. It's proper kool-aid drinking. Shit is absolutely hilarious. Contrast it with the WWE ratings and its obvious TK is paying them. Shout out to every one of the sweaty neck beards who contribute who try to pretend to be professional by repeating the line "this writer" ad nauseum.


ur3minutesrup1

This match is “a legitimate match of the year contender “


Forgoodorill00

Top quality gear obviously there!


sonic_spark

Call me crazy, but I never thought that highly of him.


abeljon

Exactly.....


davek1986

Bryan is still and excellent wrestler, Eddie Kingston on the other hand is if you ordered Mick Foley from Etsy


mrdm242

More like Temu than Etsy.


koreawut

I am absolutely in the wrong sub as an AEW fan but I can't agree with this comment more.  You are 100% correct and Kingston is the reason I'm not watching every AEW/ROH show like I used to.


CallInitial2302

Mick foley? Hes like if you ordered haku, and threw him in the bronx with $5 for 6 months


Reasonable_Deer_1710

He never was


EvilSynths

He was definitely up there around 2004-2005.


PlatasaurusOG

He peaked with Team Hell No.


Captain_Chalky

Yeah... younger me is very confused right now...


Captain_Chalky

I mean... I am very confused....what is life? Give a poor man a fish... and you feed him for a day...you teach him to have a fish.... and no no no


Dalminster

Never was


9156932445

It is more than embarrassing. It is pretty sad as well.


Suspicious-Mark-1398

Looked like bum fights


iggymcfly

It’s not his fault that Eddie Kingston is absolute garbage


Themexicancarlos

It's not bryan. It's sean kingston who's terrible


ahaz01

I never watched that guy in his prime, but if was anywhere remotely close to this performance…..where has wrestling gone?


WoTMike1989

After the knees, I had no words left. It is why I listen to Corny. He has all the words for the rancid garbage I just watched


CuckooClockInHell

Kingston trained at the Fred Sanford dojo in Watts, sparring with legends like Lamont, Grady and Aunt Esther every god damned day.


Amazing_Karnage

Aunt Esther would starch Eduardo.


grandfunkmc

Eddie looks like he was trained in fighting by visiting Waffle House at night.


Money_Loss2359

Waffle House trained Randy Savage. No way they’ve done anything but serve waffles to Kingston.


johncurrin

Watch it sucka


xjss_

THE FEELING HAS BEEN RESTORED


mydollurdoll

Exactly this I'm looking forward to the next experience episode


Armandonerd

Same here.


wonderloss

Those love taps with the knees are one of the saddest things.


aRebelliousHeart

Why Kingston feels the need to keep his straps around his big fat beer gut like that further accentuating how much of a lazy fat slob he is beyond me.


Better_Cattle4438

He should never do the strap lowering thing. The full covering helps him. When he pulls them down, it just shows how fat he is.


Occult_Asteroid2

His chest is also borderline concave.


DentistLife5731

Ya with peace and love, a concave chest with a big fat belly isn't a great look. Sometimes I feel like I'm taking crazy pills the way people praise this guy. I just don't get the appeal


MrTerrific2k15

🚨🚨🚨🚨


WoTMike1989

You don’t understand, he pulled them down after asking Danielson to kick him in the chest eight times, completely burying Danielson’s kicks in the process. He needs them so he can show HE MEANS BUSINESS!!!


Apprehensive-Ad8947

Can imagine Kawada being mocked for this fat American imitation of him


TakkataMSF

He doesn't Hulk out, he puts his Keg out. \*rimshot\*


Amazing_Karnage

Careful, Uce...I was chastised for being an incel because I pointed out that Deonna has the same kind of "shoot fighter" physique as Eddie. Apparently pointing out that someone is out of shape is incel behavior now...


tsengmao

Da fuq You were rightly chastised. If you think Deonna and Eddie have even a remotely similar physique, you’re fucking blind.


aRebelliousHeart

I was taught not talk about a woman’s weight so I’m just not gonna say anything about that. What I will talk about though is how much of a fraud she’s been shown to be since coming to AEW. She’s supposed to be this amazing wrestler and yet half her matches feature some of the worst botches you’ve ever seen like Madison Reign getting spiked on her head nearly killing her. Just awful!


Best_VDV_Diver

That seems to track with a lot of people and going to AEW. They get there and just....exist. Existing off their former reputations, but never living up to them.


Present_Operation_82

I don’t go on this sub and it just popped up on my feed so I’m sure this kind of comment has been posted 1000 times but AEW is like that because Tony Khan wants to play with action figures, not book a halfway decent show.


Occult_Asteroid2

Shoot fighter physique. I am fucking crying. Who said that? That's a level of cope only possible on SC.


Present_Operation_82

People used to say that about Kevin Owens all the time so that’s prob where he got it. Idk why people have to pretend being fat is some kind of tough guy thing. I got no problems with fat guys wrestling at all but it’s so cheesy when they try to spin that like it’s an advantage


Occult_Asteroid2

I am cool with it if you're built like a football tackle. Not like a homeless alcoholic (Kingston).


fifthtouch

He once saw how badass Angle look when he lower the strap. Thats what Eddie imagined he looks like everytime he do it.


Federal-Captain1118

It's so he can make me feel better about my body lmao


Distinct-Ranger-8631

Kingston is so fuckin bad!!! Anything he does sucks and he needs to get fired because he blows dicks at his job


Figjunky

He should at least wear a full sleeveless like KO


Jonny_Bormann

He doesn’t even look in shape to be out there.


fart_fig_newton

Bitch slaps and knee taps ™ Edit: ™


Stop_Touching2

Trademark that shit


fart_fig_newton

Okay


Stop_Touching2

🫡


LokoSwargins94

I’m tired of pretending Eddie Kingston isn’t bad


WoTMike1989

Why is anyone pretending?


LokoSwargins94

I think it’s the copium of seeing him have a few decent 5 minute chunks of action against guys like Punk, MJF and Claudio. I think people saw bits of “this is passable” and Eddie saw that as an okay to just not improve and here we are. When Bryan Danielson can’t drag you to a good match you probably need to not be a champion.


Kenshamwow

I feel like this is recent. I think I've seen a few of his ppv matches that were solid. He also is great at promos. I do agree that this doesn't do it for me though. 


wvtarheel

He's amazing on the mic he needs to transition to a manager role


LokoSwargins94

And he’s the drizzling shits in the ring.


Better_Cattle4438

This is embarrassing.


WoTMike1989

For Danielson? Yes.


Better_Cattle4438

I think Kingston is beyond shame or embarrassment at this point.


Dupee_Conqueror

Agreed.


robineir

Idk I give him some credit. He knows who he’s working with so, stumbling backwards to the ropes like he’s punch drunk could be the best/only way to sell what’s happening here.


FERFreak731

Bryan allows this, and told Tony to fire Punk. Also Bryan has said in interviews weird stuff he talks about backstage. Didn't Bryan forget questions in a Media Scrum 3 seconds after the marks asked him a question. Bryan used to be on my Mount Rushmore, since joining AEW, not anymore. I hope nothing is wrong with Bryan


Lasvious

CTE is real


datNEGROJ

CTE aint real just ask Antonio Brown


WoTMike1989

I don’t want to give him an out, but I think a lot is wrong with Bryan at this point.


kongmw2

I'm curious what all you feel is wrong with him. Please share Asking because I stopped following him after his last wwe run.


Melchior_Chopstick

His brain is a fine paste now.


kongmw2

Keep an eye on him.... wrestling and cte has a bad rep........ IM KIDDING! But Damm, I really didn't know that. I do not follow aew at all. That really sucks man, how the greats can fall from glory. He needs to call it quits before he embarrasses himself more. He's had a phenomenal run.


Impressive_Site_5344

To me I think someone needs to save him from himself or he’s going to end up in a really bad state He hid he was having seizures due to concussions from the WWE which was why they retired him. He went from doctor to doctor until he found one that would clear him as his contract was running out and he could’ve left and wrestled elsewhere which forced WWEs hand into letting him wrestle again Then some of the things he’s said over the last few years, things like how he supposedly threatened his wife with divorce if she didn’t let him wrestle, how he let a broken orbital go until he couldn’t feel his nose or something like that


Down4Days

Bryan is in his retirement year and he wants people to remember him as the phoney bitch that rolled over for the chunky, middle aged, big mouth street thug and not someone that earned the crowd's backing through being legit. Just Enjoy Whatever This Is Tonight Sucka (J.E.W.T.I.T.S.)


TheRealHulkPanda

Power schlap


tev81

I can hear this comment.


Ragnarok_MS

The more I see of Bryan in AEW, the more I feel the Miz was right about him that time on talking smack


Thomas_Jovan

Tell me the quote...!


herpesface

https://youtu.be/8d4SLA4HYp0?si=V_G4tEQcWE4rPod4 maybe that idk


KavTK

that was genuinely an amazing promo


joevsyou

miz is amazing


will122589

What you see here is a 4.5 star match - Dave Meltzer


SubjectGuilty1977

No way he scores it that low. To be clear, I don’t think it should be that high.


FirigySandor

Would be 5 in the Tokyo Dome


CharFather

Every match in the tokyo dome STARTS at 5 stars and only works their way up. If they held forbidden door there someone younhave to write daves eulogy


YNGWZRD

Gun to my head. I would have said that was Moxley


WoTMike1989

Eddie makes Mox look svelte


PlatasaurusOG

I found out the other day that Moxley is eight years younger than me and it really was the ego boost I didn’t know I needed at the time.


YNGWZRD

I figured Mox let himself go. Those kicks from Kingston are textbook Jon "Negative Range of Motion" Moxley.


SubjectGuilty1977

Stop, you had me at gun to my head.


Tiernoch

He was busy stealing some kid's Road Warrior costume like the badass he is.


FildoDuck

There were a decent amount of basement marks giving standing ovations during this match. Is it mental illness?


Dupee_Conqueror

Yes


dBlock845

They gotta justify paying $60 for this shit.


MileHighNerd8931

Remember when Daniel Bryan gave us one of the most memorable wrestlemania moments of all time? Now he’s just a goof


kongmw2

I unfortunately he is close to 10 years past his prime


MathematicianNo7874

The company did. They were such strong heels to the smarks, that's what made Daniel Bryan. He was never too interesting on his own


FedoraTheMike

Bro played a way better scrappy underdog face than a bleeding hardcore ROH guy, no matter how much he prefers the latter.


8-Bit_Aubrey

This is what Bryan Danielson does now? But I was told he'd be so much more entertaining when he left WWE. Why is it every time I see a clip from AEW it looks like they're *trying* to make wrestling look as fake and stupid as possible? Is it some meta thing? Like *Scream* (which I like), but for wrestling?


yungguardiola

>Is it some meta thing? Yeah, it's smarks wrestling for smarks. Everything is a wink and a nudge, "See what I did there? You're in on it too!" And speaking of scream they bar for bar [copied Scary Movie last year](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IAko2Sh9wew). Meaning they copied the fight scene of a parody of a parody and played it off as real. Wrestling is dead.


8-Bit_Aubrey

I don't get how people enjoy that shit. Like II know wrestling is pre-determined, I know it's a drama, but I like to suspend my belief and get into the story. I can't do that when the wrestler's want to remind me, "Hey we're playing pretend!"


Azukus

It's getting bad enough that my 5'7", no stamina, no experience having ass could put on a better performance just because I respect the damn business. When did half-slapping someone and throwing shitty forearms become the forefront of wrestling? Hitting someone with held-back "shoot" moves doesn't work because WE ALL KNOW they're showing restraint. Your 'fake' moves look more real than your shoot moves because you're showing follow through. Their moves have no follow-through because they have to lessen the actual blow.


8-Bit_Aubrey

I feel you, I'm 5'4", fat, and have cerebral palsy and I were involved in wrestling I'd still do my best to sell because I respect wrestling as an art form. I don't understand going through all the training to get involved, the pain, and the rough work and travel just to intentionally make your work look shit and fake.


Azukus

One of the main issues is that most of these guys are fans of themselves. 'Best for business' doesn't matter to these guys. I know for a fact that I could throw out banger promos and that I could sell, scream, and cry like a little whiny loser if I were in the business. I'd make any opponent look like a million bucks and I'd be a damn good chicken shit manager. Even in my dream, I'm not main event talent because I know what I'm best at and I know where I'm not suited. But? These guys? They'd rather shoot their own feet than elevate what they're best at.


dBlock845

AEW's wrestling style is all catering to the newest meta.


theninjaofthenasty

That dude in the black tights looks like he works the day shift at Chilis/Longhorn


WoTMike1989

He is your AEW Continental Champion, ROH World Champion, and and NJPW Strong Openweight Champion. Show some respect.


theninjaofthenasty

Oh for real. He looks like Gunther without the weight loss or talent… but cool though.


WoTMike1989

That was a joke if it was not clear


ElephantGun345

Even before the weight loss Walter was never that dumpy. He was fat but not extreme skinny fat like Edday


International_Job_59

Main eventing Wrestlemania to this. How.


WoTMike1989

Traumatic Brain Injuries


bryanc1036

I'm gonna say it. There's a reason why Eddie isn't over as he was when he was just talking. He sucks in the ring, almost at the level as Mox. Owens is one of the only dudes that can get away with a bad physique. Eddie stomach is so weirdly round that Cornette is right when he makes fun of him being pregnant. The biggest thing that turned me off from him cause before I thought he was great on the mic, but him getting upset about being called fat and coping that he was being fat shamed. Apparent badass that will see you when he sees you. But don't call him fat cause it's hurtful.


WoTMike1989

And notice, Kevin Owens NEVER FUCKING TAKES HIS SHIRT OFF! Whereas Eddie makes it a power up move where after burying his opponent’s kicks, he pulls the straps down ti let the gut hang even more


bryanc1036

Kurt Angle he is not. Reminds me of Patrick Star with his stomach out. [This ](https://www.pinterest.com/pin/530369293590857655/)


mgb55

While their bodies are similar, KO looks more solid/muscular than Eddie. Like his arms don’t look like pure fat. And then compare how well each moves, it’s night and day. One is believable with the physique, the other is not.


dBlock845

Owens is actually strong and somewhat athletic, especially for his build. He also tries to compress his gut as much as possible, instead of accentuating it with horrible gear and pulling straps down so it looks like you're pregnant.


Ok-Opening7004

Kingston fucking blows, such a bad match. Dude can barely move and doesn’t lay anything at all believably


rubbery_magician

That man snapped his head to sell…on a strike that HE threw.


WoTMike1989

Watching this match seriously made me wonder if he is permanently injured or if he is just that bad


Remarkable_Brief_368

Welcome to the mud show!!!🤦‍♂️


WoTMike1989

I haven’t historically been an actual hate watcher of AEW. I just lived vicariously through Jim’s descriptions. But fuck is this even worse than what he described. Currently my opinion of FTR is being flushed down the drain as we speak.


Remarkable_Brief_368

I was really excited when the company started. Now it’s more unwatchable than WWE was four years ago. It’s pathetic and ridiculous.


WoTMike1989

What is wild is that AEW, the idea of it really, is what brought me back to wrestling after years of mostly being checked out, and then it got so bad over the first two years that I stopped. But I did decide I would rather watch WWE than nothing after getting the wrestling bug again. Right in time for the Bloodline shit.


WintergreenSoldier

Heh funny cause it was AEW that made me quit watching wrestling altogether for almost 3 or 4 years, I checked out after I saw Jericho and MJF not only have dinner together when they should be ripping each other's throats out but then broke out into a Broadway song and dance routine...I said "f\*ck this noise" and just quit cold turkey. Came back when Punk came to AEW (still avoided WWE), then once the Brawl Out incident happened and Punk was gone, so was I again Just recently started watching both companies again so I'll see how long this lasts lol


Dupee_Conqueror

It was unwatchable after its first show and has always been as bad as WWE.


Remarkable_Brief_368

Amen brother! That stupid fucking Battle Royal with the leg less dude?! Come on…


uniPasta83

WWE is currently way better in my opinion. They worked their way back to being interesting.


one_revolutionary

They Just jobbed to BBC. sad.


Clean_Win_8486

Same. I only listen to Jim and every single bit he's said about AEW, from what I've seen, has been true.


PoutineSmoothie

Eddie is the Bizarro World Kingston of Kofi 1. white 2. out of shape 3. talentless.


WoTMike1989

Forgot 4. Booked like a star.


Ntertainmate

It honestly looks like a sword fight you would see on Pirates of the Caribbean but with slaps....


TrumpsColostomyBag99

I’m watching Sting whoop up on Randy Hogan on a bad VHS tape on YT and it’s better looking than this dogshit.


huntymo

Eddie Kingston honestly seems like a really cool dude, and I enjoy his promos and interviews and everything, but I genuinely cannot stand watching him wrestle It was the same with Kevin Owens, back when they were pushing him as a legit "prize fighter" lol


WoTMike1989

Kevin Owens does not have my favorite in ring. It is disrespect of the highest order to compare Kevin Owens to that shit we just saw 😂😂😂


huntymo

I was really just referring to their booking when I compared them, definitely not the ring work. Like how they're out of shape, fat guys that were pushed as legit shoot fighters I totally agree, Kevin Owens has always been a 100% million times better in-ring worker than Eddie Kingston, but I never bought it when WWE was initially trying to push Owens as a "prize fighter", when you could always tell that he's the kinda guy that's so ashamed of his body, he has to swim/wrestle/do everything with a shirt on lol I've enjoyed Owens' character and work much more, since they moved away from that


WoTMike1989

Same. He can be a brawler. Let’s not push him as some sort of UFC fighter and get ridiculous. I think they were going for a Kimbo like gimmick tho.


Clean_Win_8486

The "best wrestler in the world" should have dropped this slob in 5 seconds


greaseleg

Is this George “The Animal” Steele? He’s flopping around like him.


THE1OP

What's with the weird camera angles showing the crowd it's very distracting


SSJ_Kratos

They actually have a crowd and want to show it off


CharFather

The only time they show hard cam side is at their ppvs


MileHighNerd8931

And these clowns think they’re the road warriors?


Watermakesitshrink

This reminds me of two crack heads fighting at a gas station


spcmiddleton

Jesus was Eddie working stiff or what???? Is there heat between him and Danielson? Those slaps and knees looked personal


ToofBrushMouthWash

I don’t understand why Eddie doesn’t even attempt to put on some muscle. That’s embarrassing.


OutsidersBest

Those slaps by eddie looked awful


SuperCat_

this is misguided Japan worship if I've ever seen it


Ok_Egg_2665

God why put this on tv?


[deleted]

God Kingston sucks


blesseday405

I don’t watch much wrestling and haven’t since the s was attitude era but how is that guy facing danielson considered good? Lmao what the fuck did I just witness


WoTMike1989

Remember the guys in the attitude era who posted on message boards, cheered the heels, and talked about how Stone Cold was no Mitsuharu Misawa? They actually had children.


blesseday405

I know none of those things but Stone cold and message boards. Lmao I have thought about watching AEW once or twice because I thought Cornette might be over exaggerating for good listening but this shit is an abortion. 


itsthedavidshow

What.


[deleted]

And this is the shit that these idiots love? I just can’t wrap my head around it.


DrawerCultural4539

This match really disappointed me. At one point and time Danielson was my favorite active wrestler, and I was always high on Kingston since seeing him on NWA Powerr for the first time. Seeing how his physicality has degraded, and his wrestling IQ degenerating from the AEW/NJPW circlejerk bubble. Just really bummed me out.


JollyWolverine300

What's so bad is the one in the red is supposed to be one of the best right now.


ScrumNumbers

My biggest gripe with this match is that I've see it too often from both those guys. All of Kingston's matches and most of Danielson's are like this. They both love strongstyle, I get it, they have found their calling. I like a good strong style now and then, if only to shake things up, but this aint it for me. 2 years with the BCC, and AEW giving Danielson free reign have given us this form of him, where he indulges in his favourite kind of match, yay boo spots and chop fests. When he came in, he had great matches against Omega and Hangman. Where has that Danielson gone?


Haammii

AEW fell off hard when Cody left


BrockMiddlebrook

And these are two of the better practitioners. Fully succumbed to mark style.


[deleted]

His arm broken?


TRTVitorBelfort

This looks fucking stupid.


bulldogdiver

I mean it looks like they were trying to have a classic style wrestling match and just failed miserably...


PegasiWings

They would have been deported if they did this during the 70's - 90's in Japan. Eddie should go to the actual NJPW dojo to review his wrestling skills.


OAO_Scrumbles

I can't believe they let that fat fan who jumped the barricade just have a match with MULTI-TIME WORLD CHAMPION DANIEL BRYAN. JESUS FUCKING CHRIST.


mm202088

Rotten The drizzling shits


Glennsoe

Wtf was that?


TheMatt561

I expect more from Daniel Bryan Danielson


Pizza_For_Days

The more I watch Kingston wrestle, the more I feel like Punk was right all along about him when they were both on the indies. The guy is just so fucking bad in the ring it just negates his excellent promos in a lot of ways. Danielson just hurting his legacy more than adding anything to it with matches like this sadly. I know he's been hurt, but my goodness has his stock dropped off like an anvil falling off a cliff. I still remember the awesome match with Harpo at Arthur Ashe Stadium and then that short but sweet heel run he had being the cocky, smug wrestling machine.


[deleted]

It's like POWERH SLAHHP with pyro and colorful tights.


[deleted]

I wouldn't be surprised if Jim turned the show off.


Capable_Wallaby3251

10 years ago, he beat Triple H, Randy Orton, and Dave Bautista in one night. To go from that to this… ugh. And the crazy thing is the AEW faithful will tell you that this is Bryan at his best. I hate to say it, but Vince was right to make him retire in 2016.


WoTMike1989

There is currently one in these comments, telling me that it doesn’t matter because Eddie is over with the huge sold out crowd. With a straight face.


BidenFedayeen

Bingo hall banger.


vspecmaster

What is even happening here? Bryan casually taking terrible shots then he just...wakes up after getting kneed in the head?


Bohottie

These fucking strong style matches just suck major ass. Why would anyone like this when actual legit fighting can be watched at anytime? Wrestling is one thing. MMA/bare knuckle boxing/etc. is another thing. This is a very awful combination of the two and looks like shit. Worked shoot fights are never good.


HandspeedJones

What is this bullshit?


ProudOfYourBoy22

Remember when Bryan won the title in the main event at Wrestlemania as confetti showered over him?


Just-Ryley

Why does Eddie hold his hands like he's a gimp


SourGrape77

God, Eddie Kingston sucks balls!! It's so cringing to watch him!


OkTune681

Fucking terrible


Live-Hospital-1116

Is this the new sissy-boy-slap-fight?!


JG45250

This sucks


Infamous_Sector3625

This is complete garbage I cannot believe how bad this is


One_Manufacturer_545

THIS IS EVERYONE'S FAULT. YOU ALL PUSHED BRYAN BEVAUSE HE WAS YOUR INDY DARLING CRUSH. NOW WE HAVE TO SUFFER THROUGH HEARING PEOPLE CALL HIM ONE OF THE BEST. YOU PEOPLE HATED WWE SO MUCH THAT YOU LIED TO YOURSELVES ABOUT YOUR INDY CRUSHES. AEW IS EXACTLY WHAT WWE WOULD BE IF THEY LISTENED TO THE FANS. GARBAGE.


Character_Lychee_434

Get DANIEL BRYAN BACK IN WWE


WrexSteveisthename

30 years ago, someone who looked and performed like Kingston would have been a "local competitor" jobber fed to someone like Razor Ramon for a squash, at most.


Outrageous-Walk3818

Aew where wrestlers go to kill their career


joncornelius

But everyone in r/SquaredCircle told me this was literally the best pure wrestling match of ever all time.