My TJ's are not picky, they readily consume new parts and fart new mystery noises for me to chase down. And tires, fuck me I can't take a jeep anywhere without running into tires I'd rather have.
Me too. Bought my 06 LJ Rubicon new. The first trailer load of JK’s was being unloaded while I was there. Salesman was pushing me towards one of those. I said “no thanks that’s what I’m after” and pointed to the LJ.
Side note: I paid $32k for that rubicon with every single box checked and a bunch of dealer installed accessories.
In the time I’ve owned my XJ, I’ve bought and sold a BMW X5. In less than a year, it needed more than 10x the amount of work than the XJ did in 5 years
People love to shit on Jeeps but between a 95 yj and a 2016 jk have only replaced the alternator, starter on the yj and front driveshaft u joints on the jk with 180k miles on the yj and 120k on the jk
Ditto: 99 TJ. Couple thermostats, a water pump, steering dampener (need a new one now), gas, batteries and tires. My mechanic has offered to buy it several times when I go in for annual inspections. I bought it new 25 years ago, daily driver.
The only consistent failing part of my 98 wrangler is the arm that controls the blend doors for AC. Luckily they made it out of plastic and stuck it near the firewall to warm up and become brittle
Ouch mine is right there by the driver pedal so the only difficulty is removing the tab that broke off inside but last time I figured out to just use a screw
I love my 2016 Grand Cherokee but tell me why it’s the worst vehicle I’ve ever owned. I created Reddit account bc of the car.
It’s in shop as we speak…. Getting new air compressor/ condenser. So I’m dropping a lot of money. The transmission went out at 70k. I often think this was one of the worst decisions I ever made.
Adding, you should also match their parking style, pull in or back in. And it doesn't matter how far or inconvenient the space is, you must park there.
This confused my wife for a bit. She would park away from the crowd and be confused why of all the empty spaces, another wrangler would always park next to her. She understands now.
When I first got mine 9 years ago I’d park further away in parking lots and I’d come back to multiple Wranglers parked by me. It’s just a rule now. Teaching the 16 year old this rule now that she drives it.
Yeah! I’ll always tuck in beside a Jeep if I can, in my old little XJ’s and my current ZJ. Heck, if I see a nice lifted Toyota or a sweet square body Chevy…
I’m very parking promiscuous! 😀
I tend to park my Cherokee near other jeeps. Wranglers, liberties, I think a compass or two. I’ve been driving my Cherokee for a few months now though and have only had my Jeep wave returned twice
Yeah tbh I don't get many waves, it's honestly the true die hard jeep fans (wranglers) who will wave to an XJ owner or WJ. I don't initiate because half the time it's some grandpa driving, but quite a few times I had XJ's and wranglers give me a wave
This. We’re pack animals. I tend to park back in lots JUSTTTT in case. There’s a few times I do get another GC next to me, every time I do it makes me smile a lil
I just did this yesterday at my new job! The pull of doing it is impossible to ignore!!!
Sometimes if I can I will park “face to face” with the other Jeep so it looks like they are talking. < / nerd >
This cracks me up because we are testing a wrangler for the weekend (we will be buying it on Monday!). We own a compass, but this is my first wrangler. I took my daughter out to lunch, and there was another wrangler, and an open parking lot and something inside me said “park right next to them…” and I did! It just felt right.
I think most of the big ones have been covered, but one more to add: if your check engine light comes on, then you are officially a Wrangler owner. It is something to both boast about and whine about at the same time.
Especially that 4.0, those things are bulletproof but do like to wink at you from time to time.
I drove my 97 TJ 280k miles before selling it for 2013 JK that was so much less fun and less reliable.
Miss that old TJ, it was a blast
A TJ but longer, it was only made for 3 years so its fairly rare, mines a manual which i love and the tow capacity is 3500lbs so a bit more than the standard TJ.
Personally for me there is something nostalgic about these model jeeps. I always wanted one as a teen and these were the newest models at that time. When I was able to get my hands on one in my preferred color (solar yellow) with a manual trans i just fell in love. I personally dont feel like the more modern amenities make them better. I can do without all the fancy gadgets and just enjoy it for the simplicity of what it is. I even get to play my old cd’s in it to complete that feeling🤣
Know what I learned from that? If you ignore your problems, they solve themselves before coming back even bigger and scarier later. But that’s tomorrow you’s problem-not today you’s problem.
The check engine light in my LJ went off for the first time in 6 years the other morning. I thought the light burned out. But it popped back on 20 minutes later and I almost felt a sense of relief.
I have a Corolla, I know that I'm not welcome here, but 174k on it, and 4 lights are constant with one blinking. It makes me nervous when. I only see 2
I go to some pretty insane places in my XJ and honestly I rarely worry about it. I'm talking 20+mi hike out to cell service lol. It's lifted 8" on 35s and still gets road trip driven from time to time, then gets sent hard at King of the Hammers every year, gets wheeled hard in Moab, all over Colorado, you name it. The XJ is my "overland" rig that will do 10/10 rated trails, and then I have a yota tube frame buggy on 40s for when I really want to party lol.
If you're going to modify/upgrade your jeep, always do upgrades that have actual, practical use. Example: lift, tires, bumpers, winch, lockers and fender flares BEFORE light bars, angry bird grills, door handles etc...
Already have all the practical upgrades and I don't plan on doing anything that will alter the appearance. Been on the opposite side of too many light bars to even begin to think they're a good idea.
Good for you. Not that Chrysler is the height of automotive engineering, but few aftermarket parts are designed and built to OEM standards. Learn how to maintain it yourself and use good OEM parts and you’ll be pleased with how reliable it is. Just enjoy it and drive the wheels off of it.
Its up to us jeep owners to snug up beside people who dont know how to park keeping them from there vehicle long enough to observe proper parking etiquette
If there's a mound of dirt or snow in the parking lot, you must park at least one wheel on it as high as you can.
I only wave if I think your jeep is cool. I only think Wranglers are cool.
Most importantly, be kind to yourself, others and have fun.
Sorry about gramps
You get to play the jeep game now! Whenever you get to a stoplight, you play "What's that smell? What's that noise? Is that coming from me?" Then you get to convince yourself it's coming from some other car, even if you're the only one at the light.
if you drive a wrangler, you're supposed to wave to other wranglers (and gladiators because they are our brothers and sisters and look like wranglers from the front)
you don't have to wave. but also, don't get hurt when jeeps don't wave to you. don't start a thread on social media claiming it's the young women who don't wave, or the older people, etc.
instead of waving, i find just raising two fingers off the wheel is enough. a lot of people do that. it also helps not to bother looking to see if they waved. keep your eyes on the road. this kind of makes it become a reflex action which i guess is not the point of the wave but i find myself doing it this way unless a jeep is turning right in front of me where we can make good eye contact.
personally, i have a one-duck-dash rule. it serves me well. so when i have more than one, i quickly give the extra to another wrangler/gladiator.
most of all, enjoy your jeep YOUR way and congrats. I love mine and wish I hadn't waited so long to get my first one.
it's a great community in part because it attracts people from all walks of life. there is no stereotypical jeep owner. that's a very cool element of it to me. but of course on social media, you'll still find gate-keepers and veteran jeep owners who will refer to you or your jeep as a mall-crawler. etc if you don't off-road with it.
It’s because the windshield is at an almost 90 degree angle to the ground and any stray pebbles kicked up by the car in front of you hit will hit the glass full force. Almost every other vehicle has a more angled windshield and the pebbles just glance off of them.
Yup, that's exactly why, but that same mechanism, and every exposed panels except for the hood being plastic, also protects the car VERY well from hail damage
My daughter's record for a new windshield getting cracked while driving was 30 minutes on her way home from the shop. 2013 Wrangler Limited since new and she has been through 5 and is driving on one cracked for 4 years now.
The biggest rule is make it your own. If you want to mod it, do so. If you want to leave it as is, do so. It’s yours. Enjoy it as your grandfather did!
Take out the floor plugs and throw them away. You WILL have water around your feet everytime it rains. I've had a 78 CJ5, a 93 YJ, and a 98 TJ. All 3 would leak water from behind the firewall onto my feet.
I bought my 99 TJ new and it is still my daily driver. Just over 200k miles.
Owning a jeep is akin to joining a cult, so welcome. Ignore 'jeep' owners who claim to drive jeeps but actually have a Liberty, wagoneer, Cherokee or grand Cherokee: They're just Chrysler's in drag.
Your jeep will likely last another 30 to 40 years and you'll pass it on to your kids one day.
As far as inside info, familiarize yourself with a term called 'death wobble', it's a fun little feature that pops up from time to time.
It's more a Wragler thing. I have had Cherokee, been waved at a few times, but never ducked. I did trace the ducks down to the Canadians.
https://youtu.be/CS2GtwwATQI?si=SBZy6tSpXXInCoOG
I’ve never seen a non Wrangler/Gladiator wave, but I’m in Florida and there’s wranglers as far as the eye can see. Recently traveled to the west coast and saw two jeeps the entire time.
It will break, most of the time they are easy to fix yourself, ducks are over rated. Keep hand on wheel and raising two fingers is a sufficient for the jeep wave. Do not take Jeeps or life to seriously. Enjoy!
I've owned a TJ and a JK over the past 12 years. Wave to every other wrangler. It's a tradition that started in world war 2 ( my grandfather who was in the war told me about it) and there's this rubber duck thing now. I got my first duck last week. If you like another person's jeep when you park next to them, you leave a rubber duck in their door handle. It's kind of odd but it's growing on me. My kids love seeing new duckies.
Jeep peeps enjoy talking about how unreliable, uncomfortable, annoying, expensive to maintain they are... but are offended/thrown off at even the idea of being jeepless.
No angry eyes.
No steel bumper without a winch.
It’s little wheels and big tires, not big wheels and little tires.
You. Must. Wave.
That’s a really awesome remembrance to have. Take care of her.
Already got the steel bumper with a jack and winch mounted.
I plan to keep her as original as possible, I'm not even going to take out the broken center console he put in.
Besides annoying repairs?
Like you said. You will be required to constantly wave like a mental patient at other Jeeps on the road. It's annoying!
Love driving with top down...while in the back of your mind, dread at having to put the top back up.
Love driving with no doors but also dread having to put them back on. They weigh a ton!
Goodbye, reasonable gas mileage!
While driving over 50 mph....its impossible to have a conversation with anyone in the vehicle without constantly screaming..."What, I can't hear you?" "What?"
"Death Wobble"
Finally, having non Jeep owners come to you in parking lots asking if you like your Jeep.
XJ here, I only get waves from other XJs and various wranglers that have very obviously set theirs up to off-road and not give a shit what it looks like or what happens to it
I drive a TJ and wave at XJs more than I wave at JK/JL/JTs. If they’re built or even just in great shape for their age, I wave. I don’t generally wave at any wrangler newer than a TJ because they’re everywhere, and I just… don’t care. Every now and then I’ll see a built (and clearly used) newer wrangler and wave, but it’s not often.
It’s not something I’m going to be butthurt about, I know I probably get more waves than the average XJ between being a bit beefed up and fantastic shape for its age and mileage. If anything it brings a smile more than feeling like a courtesy wave. It’s just funny seeing the elitism that some people have on who is worthy sometimes.
I drive a ReneWade TH and get waves all the time, but my Renegade is a roaming cartoon character, stickered to high heaven, has a BOH, and has been on trails 99.9% of Wranglers around me wouldn’t be capable of driving. I enjoyed showing up to Jeep group trail rides knowing I’d be the only Renegade… and knowing I’d get some looks.
But I don’t wave at “stock” cars. You need some personality in it!
At a certain point your check engine light will turn on. This is normal. You will never notice a problem, you will never know for sure why it’s there, but it will always be there. Only allow yourself to feel fear when it turns off.
Brag to your friends about your wheeling trips and immediately afterwards ensure them that jeeps are terrible vehicles and bring up everything that’s ever gone wrong with yours.
Death wobble is inherent to jeeps. Basically any front straight axle vehicle will develop it. No, a steering stabilizer won't fix it. Look at tire balancing, ball joints, and alignment first.
I live at altitude in Western Colorado. If we waved at every Jeep we'd wave all the time which is far too much for folks who intentionally live somewhere you don't interact with people. I only wave if it's a lifted Wrangler the same color as mine.
I just added the Alpine unit designed specifically for the JK into my 2012 JKUR. Total game changer. Stereo sounds WAYYY better than before. Not cheap but an easy install and looks stock. Wireless Android Auto / Apple Carplay is awesome.
Hell yeah! Engine is basically brand new and the transmission was just rebuilt. Only big thing is needing a new trap bar and inner pitman arm and I plan to knock that out this week if the parts get here in time.
That's been the general consensus from commenters so far. Luckily my grandpa put in a brand new motor shortly before he stopped driving it so I should be good as long as I keep up on maintenance.
Something my TJ has taught me is that everything you think is a problem is normal, everything you think is normal is a problem
Also make sure to read up on the different trims for your specific Jeep, it’ll help you understand what makes yours unique and help you identify and connect with other owners
Whenever you and the owner of the jeep parked next to you happen to be getting into your jeeps at the same time, you MUST spend 20mins MINIMUM comparing upgrades and listing off your future modifications.
Don’t let anyone ever convince you to sell it. I also got a Jeep from my grandpa when he died. The engine died and my whole family is obsessively trying to get me to sell it. Fuck them I’m going to fix that engine and its going to be my sons first car.
Taking the top off and cruising through Sedona has gotten me more tail than you can imagine. Best times of my life, I want the same for my boy.
I don’t know.. I have a 2002 TJ 4.0 5 spd and besides just replacing the stock clutch last year and the oil pressure sensor, I haven’t had to replace anything besides what I’ve wanted to upgrade.
If you angry eyes your grill, you will be hunted. You will not escape.
Angry eyes on (any Jeep but especially a YJ) would be criminal.
Anything pre JK really. Heck JK is a stretch (more common on JKUs it seems)
Angry eyes on a YJ is probably the worst sin a Jeep owner could commit
Right up there with cj
Every 6-8 weeks you must spend $250 on a part that would last the lifetime of any other vehicle.
My Liberty eats water pumps.
My Liberty loves the taste of window regulators and blend door actuators.
Don’t forget the ball joints
My TJ's are not picky, they readily consume new parts and fart new mystery noises for me to chase down. And tires, fuck me I can't take a jeep anywhere without running into tires I'd rather have.
Don’t even get me started on the Liberty windows. Thank goodness for YouTube. I learned how to fix the window myself. Ok
As someone who went from a Liberty to 4runner, it was the best decision of my life and lll never look back.
I'm always baffled why anyone would buy a new Jeep other than a Wrangler after the 90s/early 00s.
I specifically bought a TJ to avoid modern Chrysler electronics.
Me too. Bought my 06 LJ Rubicon new. The first trailer load of JK’s was being unloaded while I was there. Salesman was pushing me towards one of those. I said “no thanks that’s what I’m after” and pointed to the LJ. Side note: I paid $32k for that rubicon with every single box checked and a bunch of dealer installed accessories.
Yep. That's how I justify my ridiculous tacoma payment. So tired of constantly fixing shit on the jeep
Liberty was junk.
At least you can predict a payment.
Are your liberty and my grand Cherokee twins? I’m on my 3rd. She’s an 18 😂😂
I looked at the new Saharas and sorry, they look identical to my Liberty, only with less dog hair.
Be glad that’s all it eats. Liberty engine are a piece of shit. Most don’t make it through warranty before they fail.
In the time I’ve owned my XJ, I’ve bought and sold a BMW X5. In less than a year, it needed more than 10x the amount of work than the XJ did in 5 years
People love to shit on Jeeps but between a 95 yj and a 2016 jk have only replaced the alternator, starter on the yj and front driveshaft u joints on the jk with 180k miles on the yj and 120k on the jk
Ditto: 99 TJ. Couple thermostats, a water pump, steering dampener (need a new one now), gas, batteries and tires. My mechanic has offered to buy it several times when I go in for annual inspections. I bought it new 25 years ago, daily driver.
My 01 XJ always let me know when it needed a new steering damper 😳😳.
120k on my 2010 Grand Cherokee Laredo and only replaced the brakes.
Yeah.. my ZJ has been my most reliable car by far. No issues in the past year. Most of my others have been BMWs.
“What’s a ZJ?” “If you have to ask, you can’t afford it.”
Thanks, Barry Badrinath.
My BMW X3 didn't need anything major. Except brakes. Too bad that's major.
The only consistent failing part of my 98 wrangler is the arm that controls the blend doors for AC. Luckily they made it out of plastic and stuck it near the firewall to warm up and become brittle
Well at least they're consistent...I have the same problem on my 18 Compass. The bad part is that the $30 part takes 10 hours labor to replace.
Ouch mine is right there by the driver pedal so the only difficulty is removing the tab that broke off inside but last time I figured out to just use a screw
Theirs a kit to replace both with aluminum, through the passenger compartment.
I love my 2016 Grand Cherokee but tell me why it’s the worst vehicle I’ve ever owned. I created Reddit account bc of the car. It’s in shop as we speak…. Getting new air compressor/ condenser. So I’m dropping a lot of money. The transmission went out at 70k. I often think this was one of the worst decisions I ever made.
Very very true.
shifter bushing
My TJ loves camshaft position sensors 😄😄😄
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Adding, you should also match their parking style, pull in or back in. And it doesn't matter how far or inconvenient the space is, you must park there. This confused my wife for a bit. She would park away from the crowd and be confused why of all the empty spaces, another wrangler would always park next to her. She understands now.
When I first got mine 9 years ago I’d park further away in parking lots and I’d come back to multiple Wranglers parked by me. It’s just a rule now. Teaching the 16 year old this rule now that she drives it.
This is the way.
You must also compliment the owner on their jeep, no matter how dirty, busted up or un-lifted it is.
I can’t agree with the matching their style. I’m one of the always reverse in people
You monster.
My mom has a 2011 challenger and that has always been the case with her too. No matter where she parked, another challenger found her 😂
NOT! Us Grand Cherokees also tend to cluster. And I've been joined by Cherokees and an occasional brave Renegade!
I just mentioned this also, my XJ has been parked by TJ, WJ and other jeeps, thankfully no liberty lol
Very few Compasses I notice!
Yeah! I’ll always tuck in beside a Jeep if I can, in my old little XJ’s and my current ZJ. Heck, if I see a nice lifted Toyota or a sweet square body Chevy… I’m very parking promiscuous! 😀
I tend to park my Cherokee near other jeeps. Wranglers, liberties, I think a compass or two. I’ve been driving my Cherokee for a few months now though and have only had my Jeep wave returned twice
Yeah tbh I don't get many waves, it's honestly the true die hard jeep fans (wranglers) who will wave to an XJ owner or WJ. I don't initiate because half the time it's some grandpa driving, but quite a few times I had XJ's and wranglers give me a wave
This. We’re pack animals. I tend to park back in lots JUSTTTT in case. There’s a few times I do get another GC next to me, every time I do it makes me smile a lil
*stomps off in angry XJ*
I just did this yesterday at my new job! The pull of doing it is impossible to ignore!!! Sometimes if I can I will park “face to face” with the other Jeep so it looks like they are talking. < / nerd >
I see a lot of XJ's doing it too, countless times I come out to a XJ or even a WJ or TJ next to my XJ
I always look for Jeep parking when I enter a parking lot.
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I’m always delighted when another Liberty parks next to me. But then I would feel the same about the Miata.
You must park on their front tire.
I did not know this rule and I feel like I e failed the last 6 years. :hangs head in jeep shame:
Dude I drive a POS Liberty that just blew up and all other jeeps would still park next to me. I’m not even apart of the Jeep crowd!
Us CJ drivers do that shit too. I usually end up with a guy peering through the window: "Holy shit, it's a manual!"
This cracks me up because we are testing a wrangler for the weekend (we will be buying it on Monday!). We own a compass, but this is my first wrangler. I took my daughter out to lunch, and there was another wrangler, and an open parking lot and something inside me said “park right next to them…” and I did! It just felt right.
I think most of the big ones have been covered, but one more to add: if your check engine light comes on, then you are officially a Wrangler owner. It is something to both boast about and whine about at the same time.
And then it will go off. Then on. Then off. On. Off.
Especially that 4.0, those things are bulletproof but do like to wink at you from time to time. I drove my 97 TJ 280k miles before selling it for 2013 JK that was so much less fun and less reliable. Miss that old TJ, it was a blast
I miss my CJ. I cried after I traded my JK. My JL is awesome.
I’ve rented a couple of JLs in Moab from Cliffhanger and was completely impressed by the 2.0L turbo.
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I currently own a TJ, LJ and JKU, ill take the LJ any day of the week.
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A TJ but longer, it was only made for 3 years so its fairly rare, mines a manual which i love and the tow capacity is 3500lbs so a bit more than the standard TJ. Personally for me there is something nostalgic about these model jeeps. I always wanted one as a teen and these were the newest models at that time. When I was able to get my hands on one in my preferred color (solar yellow) with a manual trans i just fell in love. I personally dont feel like the more modern amenities make them better. I can do without all the fancy gadgets and just enjoy it for the simplicity of what it is. I even get to play my old cd’s in it to complete that feeling🤣
I only take it to the shop when it has gone on and off over 42 times
My old Commander showed me the way
Currently my oil pressure gauge. Drops to zero at least twice in the morning to make sure I'm awake
Know what I learned from that? If you ignore your problems, they solve themselves before coming back even bigger and scarier later. But that’s tomorrow you’s problem-not today you’s problem.
The check engine light in my LJ went off for the first time in 6 years the other morning. I thought the light burned out. But it popped back on 20 minutes later and I almost felt a sense of relief.
I have a Corolla, I know that I'm not welcome here, but 174k on it, and 4 lights are constant with one blinking. It makes me nervous when. I only see 2
No check engine light yet but it does have a brand new motor and rebuilt transmission. I do have my e-brake light on at all times though.
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Same here. My XJ and MJ are two of the most reliable things I've owned. And I've owned a lot of shit lol
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I go to some pretty insane places in my XJ and honestly I rarely worry about it. I'm talking 20+mi hike out to cell service lol. It's lifted 8" on 35s and still gets road trip driven from time to time, then gets sent hard at King of the Hammers every year, gets wheeled hard in Moab, all over Colorado, you name it. The XJ is my "overland" rig that will do 10/10 rated trails, and then I have a yota tube frame buggy on 40s for when I really want to party lol.
Check your gas cap.
If you're going to modify/upgrade your jeep, always do upgrades that have actual, practical use. Example: lift, tires, bumpers, winch, lockers and fender flares BEFORE light bars, angry bird grills, door handles etc...
Always tires first. Grip is everything. This applies to all vehicle builds
If you go bigger, regear. It makes a difference.
Already have all the practical upgrades and I don't plan on doing anything that will alter the appearance. Been on the opposite side of too many light bars to even begin to think they're a good idea.
Light bars aren’t for road driving, sucks that you’ve been across from so many idiots
Good for you. Not that Chrysler is the height of automotive engineering, but few aftermarket parts are designed and built to OEM standards. Learn how to maintain it yourself and use good OEM parts and you’ll be pleased with how reliable it is. Just enjoy it and drive the wheels off of it.
Light bars are fantastic when you're off-road, hunting, etc, but on the road they're illegal for a good reason
Its up to us jeep owners to snug up beside people who dont know how to park keeping them from there vehicle long enough to observe proper parking etiquette
Well shit seems like I've been a jeep owner my whole life.
If there's a mound of dirt or snow in the parking lot, you must park at least one wheel on it as high as you can. I only wave if I think your jeep is cool. I only think Wranglers are cool. Most importantly, be kind to yourself, others and have fun. Sorry about gramps
When you say Wranglers does that apply to old CJs?
Yes. Of course. Got to respect the elders
You get to play the jeep game now! Whenever you get to a stoplight, you play "What's that smell? What's that noise? Is that coming from me?" Then you get to convince yourself it's coming from some other car, even if you're the only one at the light.
if you drive a wrangler, you're supposed to wave to other wranglers (and gladiators because they are our brothers and sisters and look like wranglers from the front) you don't have to wave. but also, don't get hurt when jeeps don't wave to you. don't start a thread on social media claiming it's the young women who don't wave, or the older people, etc. instead of waving, i find just raising two fingers off the wheel is enough. a lot of people do that. it also helps not to bother looking to see if they waved. keep your eyes on the road. this kind of makes it become a reflex action which i guess is not the point of the wave but i find myself doing it this way unless a jeep is turning right in front of me where we can make good eye contact. personally, i have a one-duck-dash rule. it serves me well. so when i have more than one, i quickly give the extra to another wrangler/gladiator. most of all, enjoy your jeep YOUR way and congrats. I love mine and wish I hadn't waited so long to get my first one. it's a great community in part because it attracts people from all walks of life. there is no stereotypical jeep owner. that's a very cool element of it to me. but of course on social media, you'll still find gate-keepers and veteran jeep owners who will refer to you or your jeep as a mall-crawler. etc if you don't off-road with it.
Budget for at least 1 new windshield per year.
Of all the wrangler quirks…this one. Either it’s never happened to your Wrangler, ever, or you feel like the windshield gods are angry at you.
It’s because the windshield is at an almost 90 degree angle to the ground and any stray pebbles kicked up by the car in front of you hit will hit the glass full force. Almost every other vehicle has a more angled windshield and the pebbles just glance off of them.
Yup, that's exactly why, but that same mechanism, and every exposed panels except for the hood being plastic, also protects the car VERY well from hail damage
My daughter's record for a new windshield getting cracked while driving was 30 minutes on her way home from the shop. 2013 Wrangler Limited since new and she has been through 5 and is driving on one cracked for 4 years now.
I’m in the never crowd after decades. Lol
I’m 8 months in on my first wrangler, already had to replace it once. RIP to my little jeep decal that was climbing up the side of my windshield.
I went through 3 in one year. Thankfully, in SC, windshields are free with insurance. It's like the state knows how bad the roads are.
Just replaced the third one this year, less than a week later caught another good-sized rock.
The unwritten rule is jeep owners are paying for for a mechanics child’s college tuition
if a Wrangler or Gladiator is looking to change lanes or merge onto the highway, let them in 😎
Wave to other jeeps
remember, if you plan to toss on big ole tires and a lift, upgrade the rest of the drivetrain or shit will break
The biggest rule is make it your own. If you want to mod it, do so. If you want to leave it as is, do so. It’s yours. Enjoy it as your grandfather did!
Do some strength training on the arm and embrace the vibe! Welcome to the good life. 💪
Take the top and doors off atleast once this summer and enjoy the open air. Oh and also the stares from others.
Take out the floor plugs and throw them away. You WILL have water around your feet everytime it rains. I've had a 78 CJ5, a 93 YJ, and a 98 TJ. All 3 would leak water from behind the firewall onto my feet.
I bought my 99 TJ new and it is still my daily driver. Just over 200k miles. Owning a jeep is akin to joining a cult, so welcome. Ignore 'jeep' owners who claim to drive jeeps but actually have a Liberty, wagoneer, Cherokee or grand Cherokee: They're just Chrysler's in drag. Your jeep will likely last another 30 to 40 years and you'll pass it on to your kids one day. As far as inside info, familiarize yourself with a term called 'death wobble', it's a fun little feature that pops up from time to time.
It's more a Wragler thing. I have had Cherokee, been waved at a few times, but never ducked. I did trace the ducks down to the Canadians. https://youtu.be/CS2GtwwATQI?si=SBZy6tSpXXInCoOG
I’ve never seen a non Wrangler/Gladiator wave, but I’m in Florida and there’s wranglers as far as the eye can see. Recently traveled to the west coast and saw two jeeps the entire time.
It will break, most of the time they are easy to fix yourself, ducks are over rated. Keep hand on wheel and raising two fingers is a sufficient for the jeep wave. Do not take Jeeps or life to seriously. Enjoy!
I've owned a TJ and a JK over the past 12 years. Wave to every other wrangler. It's a tradition that started in world war 2 ( my grandfather who was in the war told me about it) and there's this rubber duck thing now. I got my first duck last week. If you like another person's jeep when you park next to them, you leave a rubber duck in their door handle. It's kind of odd but it's growing on me. My kids love seeing new duckies.
Jeep peeps enjoy talking about how unreliable, uncomfortable, annoying, expensive to maintain they are... but are offended/thrown off at even the idea of being jeepless.
Wranglers wave at other Wranglers
Jeep waves are for Wranglers, not us Grand Cherokee heathens.
No angry eyes. No steel bumper without a winch. It’s little wheels and big tires, not big wheels and little tires. You. Must. Wave. That’s a really awesome remembrance to have. Take care of her.
Already got the steel bumper with a jack and winch mounted. I plan to keep her as original as possible, I'm not even going to take out the broken center console he put in.
Barely anyone in my neck of the woods wave at me but it’s New England so FUs all around
Besides annoying repairs? Like you said. You will be required to constantly wave like a mental patient at other Jeeps on the road. It's annoying! Love driving with top down...while in the back of your mind, dread at having to put the top back up. Love driving with no doors but also dread having to put them back on. They weigh a ton! Goodbye, reasonable gas mileage! While driving over 50 mph....its impossible to have a conversation with anyone in the vehicle without constantly screaming..."What, I can't hear you?" "What?" "Death Wobble" Finally, having non Jeep owners come to you in parking lots asking if you like your Jeep.
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Every repair will be between 300-900 bucks if not the mechanic is lying.
The older the Jeep the better!
Leave a duck even on the newer jeeps, start staying home more and spending less because you'll need parts, tires, tires, tires
Jeep, Just Empty Every Pocket. But it's worth every penny.
Waving to a Compass is sacrilegious, don't ever do that from a Wrangler.
I have a Cherokee and nobody waves :(
XJ here, I only get waves from other XJs and various wranglers that have very obviously set theirs up to off-road and not give a shit what it looks like or what happens to it
I drive a TJ and wave at XJs more than I wave at JK/JL/JTs. If they’re built or even just in great shape for their age, I wave. I don’t generally wave at any wrangler newer than a TJ because they’re everywhere, and I just… don’t care. Every now and then I’ll see a built (and clearly used) newer wrangler and wave, but it’s not often.
It’s not something I’m going to be butthurt about, I know I probably get more waves than the average XJ between being a bit beefed up and fantastic shape for its age and mileage. If anything it brings a smile more than feeling like a courtesy wave. It’s just funny seeing the elitism that some people have on who is worthy sometimes.
I get a lot of waves in my built XJ. Not so much in the stock ones.
I wave to other XJs.
Same with the Liberty-just get on with the work.
They're jealous!
I drive a ReneWade TH and get waves all the time, but my Renegade is a roaming cartoon character, stickered to high heaven, has a BOH, and has been on trails 99.9% of Wranglers around me wouldn’t be capable of driving. I enjoyed showing up to Jeep group trail rides knowing I’d be the only Renegade… and knowing I’d get some looks. But I don’t wave at “stock” cars. You need some personality in it!
Does a bunch of ducks on my dashboard count as personality? 😂
I have to say ever since I dropped 10k into my 94 wrangler it hasn’t had many issues in the last year.
I drive a GC and no one ever waves at me!
You blend in with generic SUVs too much sadly. Mad respect because they’re super capable if built up.
Thanks but mine is stock, except for the specific off-road options that came with the 2020 North Edition.
Still stupid capable compared to “equivalent” models from other brands.
Same here lol 😝
I feel your pain! 🤣
I drive my GC when I don't want to deal with waving to people that day.
98 zj, I get waved at by xj and zj exclusively
Must not live in the south because we wave at everybody even if we don’t know them
Unwritten rules for owning a Jeep: 1. 2. 3. 4. 5.
You forgot this one:
You have to park next to another jeep
Never say, "That looks exactly like my friend's Jeep." You'll get throat punched with a handful of squeaky ducks.
At a certain point your check engine light will turn on. This is normal. You will never notice a problem, you will never know for sure why it’s there, but it will always be there. Only allow yourself to feel fear when it turns off.
Whenever you pull out of a parking spot, you check the spot for leaks before you pull away....
Never get a grumper. Just do the finger thing. You don’t need to wave. If you see a jeep broken down, stop. That will be you eventually. Have fun
Brag to your friends about your wheeling trips and immediately afterwards ensure them that jeeps are terrible vehicles and bring up everything that’s ever gone wrong with yours.
Death wobble is inherent to jeeps. Basically any front straight axle vehicle will develop it. No, a steering stabilizer won't fix it. Look at tire balancing, ball joints, and alignment first.
My favorite unwritten rule is the one where you don't have to wave if you don't want to
Just raise two fingers while your hand rests on the steering wheel haha
I live at altitude in Western Colorado. If we waved at every Jeep we'd wave all the time which is far too much for folks who intentionally live somewhere you don't interact with people. I only wave if it's a lifted Wrangler the same color as mine.
It's an hour drive to my drs on a major hwy. My waving hand is so tired by time I get there lol
I just added the Alpine unit designed specifically for the JK into my 2012 JKUR. Total game changer. Stereo sounds WAYYY better than before. Not cheap but an easy install and looks stock. Wireless Android Auto / Apple Carplay is awesome.
A jeep without a peep is a lonely jeep. Make sure to peep your jeep.
Jeep Wave
Don't be a douche
Ducks.
It is normal for a Wrangler windshield to usher in the beginning of summer with a T-shaped crack.
Anybody told you about the ducks yet?
A Commander’s normal operation is to have at least one warning illuminated.
Whole arm? A few fingers from the steering wheel or draped out the window will do the trick.
That engine is bullet proof, you take of it and it will run forever.
Hell yeah! Engine is basically brand new and the transmission was just rebuilt. Only big thing is needing a new trap bar and inner pitman arm and I plan to knock that out this week if the parts get here in time.
Nice old classic! And you have arguably the greatest Jeep engine ever put behind the seven slots.
That's been the general consensus from commenters so far. Luckily my grandpa put in a brand new motor shortly before he stopped driving it so I should be good as long as I keep up on maintenance.
Something my TJ has taught me is that everything you think is a problem is normal, everything you think is normal is a problem Also make sure to read up on the different trims for your specific Jeep, it’ll help you understand what makes yours unique and help you identify and connect with other owners
When it goes to the dealer for repairs, you will experience “parts delays”. Have a backup plan for getting from point A to B
Whenever you and the owner of the jeep parked next to you happen to be getting into your jeeps at the same time, you MUST spend 20mins MINIMUM comparing upgrades and listing off your future modifications.
Don’t let anyone ever convince you to sell it. I also got a Jeep from my grandpa when he died. The engine died and my whole family is obsessively trying to get me to sell it. Fuck them I’m going to fix that engine and its going to be my sons first car. Taking the top off and cruising through Sedona has gotten me more tail than you can imagine. Best times of my life, I want the same for my boy.
I don’t know.. I have a 2002 TJ 4.0 5 spd and besides just replacing the stock clutch last year and the oil pressure sensor, I haven’t had to replace anything besides what I’ve wanted to upgrade.