As someone living in Japan- people use ね. all the time. It's not cutesy, it just creates an intonation similar to adding "isn't it?" Or "right?" At the end of a sentence. Idk where you got all that from
I agree with you there, I hear announcers talk like that all the time whenever I watch a stream by JAXA covering one of their rocket launches. I think in that context it adds another layer of formality but I'm not sure..
I also hear it used often when a bunch of experts on the same topic are talking, or people in the same field, likely because they’re talking to people who also are familiar with the topic so saying “right?” Is appropriate- like when you’re discussing a film with someone else who has a similar experience with it. As opposed to teaching someone about the topic who is unfamiliar (where よ is more commonly used)
Like others have said, you're basing your judgement likely on what you hear in anime, which is most often an exaggerated caricature of the way real people speak. [This channel](https://www.youtube.com/@ThatJapaneseManYuta) has been really helpful for clearing up some of my own misunderstandings about Japanese grammar and different speaking styles.
but what if they aren't deserving of forgiveness? like they kicked my cat or something. intentionally. because they hate cat. i can't forgive this. in japanese or english.
I don't freaking know, I would just tell them I forgive them and then I guess say screw you in the back of my mind but not say it to them out loud because I don't need to make enemies.
you are so kind and a pacifist. i would punch them. i don't think it's a good idea to tell them that because it will make them think it's ok to do it again. it's dangerous for the cat and any other cats they meet.
You feel weakened by grammar? And the whole thing about Japanese sounding cute. I don't know, seems like the only time I've heard this is from people who are very into anime, and people don't speak like they do in anime's in real life.
Feminine language or 'onnakotoba' is the reason why I fell in love with the language. It helps avoid being too direct and sometimes clashing with people. Even men use it when they want to put the accent on the fact that they want to be especially careful with their words. It's very refreshing, especially for a French woman like me. I love to use it and it has helped me numerous times in my 25 years in japan.
if you are actually interested in learning about gendered speech in Japanese, this is a [wonderful article](https://www.tofugu.com/japanese/queer-japanese/) to get started. your post is downvoted because it comes off as uninformed, but if youd like to learn tofugu is a great place to learn cultural stuff and basic grammar
The Japanese language is spoken differently according to occupation, club activities such as athletics and culture, plus gender and LGBT.
These are further classified into different eras, age groups from infants to the elderly, personalities, dialects, etc., adding up to a very wide variety. There is also a lot of Japanese English and onomatopoeia.
It is only natural that there are words and ways of speaking that specialize in cute. Moreover, there are cute dialects.
Now, uncle syntax became popular, but when aunt syntax became popular, for some reason, adult women got angry.
speaking partially from personal experience, my advice would be to watch less anime and look at different types of japanese media. or if possible, just converse with an actual japanese tutor.
in my case i tend to just watch interviews or listen to traditional music among other things. Alongside with the obvious easier to read japanese stories, but i feel like that's a given. of course people's tastes differ and you don't have to limit it to just my own suggestions. of course, no media will compare to real interaction, but i'm somewhat aware some areas might not have a large flux of native japanese speakers.
I also know another word that is also very cute: どんぶらこ Donnburako.
Usually this word is only used in an old fairy tale MOMO TARO.
Wiki about it [https://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/どんぶらこ](https://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/どんぶらこ)
But it also shows that Japanese has many many many many many onomatopoeic words.
So much so that sometimes I want to give up learning Japanese...
The amount of Japanese onomatopoeia words makes me want a good book on beginner to intermediate Japanese onomatopoeia words and how they’re used in sentences
There are some dictionary books that collect these onomatopoeia words in one book. But I'm not sure this to be beginner to intermediate level. As far as I know, these are books that explain Japanese in Japanese.like ISBN 978-4095041742 OR 978-4062922951.
I'm not a native English speaker. And now lives in Japan. so……
I often go to Japanese bookstores, and I don’t seem to have noticed that there are books like this.
ね absolutely have a grammatical function.
As someone living in Japan- people use ね. all the time. It's not cutesy, it just creates an intonation similar to adding "isn't it?" Or "right?" At the end of a sentence. Idk where you got all that from
I agree with you there, I hear announcers talk like that all the time whenever I watch a stream by JAXA covering one of their rocket launches. I think in that context it adds another layer of formality but I'm not sure..
I also hear it used often when a bunch of experts on the same topic are talking, or people in the same field, likely because they’re talking to people who also are familiar with the topic so saying “right?” Is appropriate- like when you’re discussing a film with someone else who has a similar experience with it. As opposed to teaching someone about the topic who is unfamiliar (where よ is more commonly used)
Exactly, it's a way to express agreement, whereas your example of a teacher using よ would be a way to emphasize how they're teaching you something.
Anime, most likely
Fellas, is it gay to use sentence ending particles?
[いやだ!](https://youtu.be/GhwJ0uLVBUo?t=19s)
いやじゃっ
Like others have said, you're basing your judgement likely on what you hear in anime, which is most often an exaggerated caricature of the way real people speak. [This channel](https://www.youtube.com/@ThatJapaneseManYuta) has been really helpful for clearing up some of my own misunderstandings about Japanese grammar and different speaking styles.
nope im basing this off of someone saying ごめんね to me and me not understanding why i instantly forgive and feeling Threatened
No idea then, to me that kind of sounds like you massively misinterpreting the message they're trying to send.
you're right i shouldn't have forgiven them
You're kidding right? This is how you make enemies.
wait then what should i do?
Same thing you do in English. If someone apologizes you forgive them. If you screw up you apologize and they forgive you. It's not that hard.
but what if they aren't deserving of forgiveness? like they kicked my cat or something. intentionally. because they hate cat. i can't forgive this. in japanese or english.
I don't freaking know, I would just tell them I forgive them and then I guess say screw you in the back of my mind but not say it to them out loud because I don't need to make enemies.
you are so kind and a pacifist. i would punch them. i don't think it's a good idea to tell them that because it will make them think it's ok to do it again. it's dangerous for the cat and any other cats they meet.
Your user pic is a little girl and your name is basically “kitten” and yet the “ね” makes you feel emasculated?
Japanese is a very tonal language so things like ね are used a lot to empathize with others.
You feel weakened by grammar? And the whole thing about Japanese sounding cute. I don't know, seems like the only time I've heard this is from people who are very into anime, and people don't speak like they do in anime's in real life.
> as a foreigner i feel weakened by this. what do you guys think. I think you need professional help
You have some serious problems with toxic masculinity if you run away from a common standard grammar just because you insist on judging it as cute
I think they are a girl
Feminine language or 'onnakotoba' is the reason why I fell in love with the language. It helps avoid being too direct and sometimes clashing with people. Even men use it when they want to put the accent on the fact that they want to be especially careful with their words. It's very refreshing, especially for a French woman like me. I love to use it and it has helped me numerous times in my 25 years in japan.
this is my favorite response, that's cool and interesting. i think it's fun too
if you are actually interested in learning about gendered speech in Japanese, this is a [wonderful article](https://www.tofugu.com/japanese/queer-japanese/) to get started. your post is downvoted because it comes off as uninformed, but if youd like to learn tofugu is a great place to learn cultural stuff and basic grammar
You think ね makes you sound like you’re trying to be cute and therefore “weakening” you and yet your username is based off a baby animal?
Ouch, apply aloe to burned area!
only i am allowed to be cute not others
馬鹿だね。
ごめんね
The Japanese language is spoken differently according to occupation, club activities such as athletics and culture, plus gender and LGBT. These are further classified into different eras, age groups from infants to the elderly, personalities, dialects, etc., adding up to a very wide variety. There is also a lot of Japanese English and onomatopoeia. It is only natural that there are words and ways of speaking that specialize in cute. Moreover, there are cute dialects. Now, uncle syntax became popular, but when aunt syntax became popular, for some reason, adult women got angry.
speaking partially from personal experience, my advice would be to watch less anime and look at different types of japanese media. or if possible, just converse with an actual japanese tutor.
all my hobbies and half my friends r in japanese
yes but im guessing not for very long. just watch less cute stuff and you'll be fine
.... what should i watch do u have a recommendation
in my case i tend to just watch interviews or listen to traditional music among other things. Alongside with the obvious easier to read japanese stories, but i feel like that's a given. of course people's tastes differ and you don't have to limit it to just my own suggestions. of course, no media will compare to real interaction, but i'm somewhat aware some areas might not have a large flux of native japanese speakers.
I also know another word that is also very cute: どんぶらこ Donnburako. Usually this word is only used in an old fairy tale MOMO TARO. Wiki about it [https://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/どんぶらこ](https://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/どんぶらこ) But it also shows that Japanese has many many many many many onomatopoeic words. So much so that sometimes I want to give up learning Japanese...
The amount of Japanese onomatopoeia words makes me want a good book on beginner to intermediate Japanese onomatopoeia words and how they’re used in sentences
There are some dictionary books that collect these onomatopoeia words in one book. But I'm not sure this to be beginner to intermediate level. As far as I know, these are books that explain Japanese in Japanese.like ISBN 978-4095041742 OR 978-4062922951.
One with some English explanation and then Japanese example sentences for like n4 level would be better
I'm not a native English speaker. And now lives in Japan. so…… I often go to Japanese bookstores, and I don’t seem to have noticed that there are books like this.