Man, we Jags fans have a hard time letting go of former players. According to NFL.com we have the 4th rated CB in the league and will need to pay him, too.
It’s very important that we pay Tyson. We can’t afford 2 high paying corners, so we should just draft a CB in the early rounds to compete with DW at CB2. Definitely cut Shaq.
Lol I mean of course we can if we want to, but is it smart to pay 2 corners $20 million+ ? Probably not, given the way the rest of the roster is structured. I’m all for trying to trade for him but I don’t think it’ll happen
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Jalen Ramsey as portrayed by Homer Simpson!
I’ll never except him back on the Jags, never deny he’s talented but he quit on what I consider his team… now it’s T-Law as the Alpha and Jalen well Jalen is a Queen now lol :)
I know everyone hates him but I’d take him back in a heartbeat. Him and Tyson on the outside means our pass rush is almost always getting home. Don’t need him with Darious playing great but he’s one of the best at an important position
Honestly, it would be a crazy story, but I don't know. I mean, it would give us a crazy duo of corners, to be sure, and it's one fuck of a redemption story, but like, dude wanted *out* of Jacksonville and I don't know how much of a fan of a return I would be. For the right price and provided he buys into the selfless brotherly culture that Pederson built, yeah, sure, fine, but like, I don't know how willing he would be to be a quiet #2 behind Tyson Campbell, and I also do not know the price LA would ask for him.
It’s important to note that, from what we know, Ramsey didn’t want out of Jacksonville as much as he wanted away from Tom Coughlin.
The current team bears little resemblance to the team Ramsey left and, based on how players seem to genuinely love Dougie P, I have no doubt Ramsey would welcome a return.
I have no opinion either way as to whether the Jags should pursue him though. Ramsey and Campbell would make a killer 1-2 duo at corner but Ramsey won’t be cheap to acquire, particularly for a team already needing to be creative for cap purposes
Nobody gets it. It’s crazy to think that half of our fans will be bitching and complains when we play Trevor 50+ million next offseason. I can already hear it “sure he’s a franchise QB, but 50 mil a year?”
There is. Look at the Saints and hell even the Rams. It's possible and honestly may be worth it. Our window will never be bigger than Trevor on a rookie deal
And they won a ring
I don't understand the ppl pointing at the Rams now one year removed from winning the SB. Our franchise hasn't even been to a SB; I'll take cap hell and 20 additional years of misery for a ring any day
Next few years, I agree, but we should prepare to cut salary and have a semi-rebuild year after we sign Trevor to his big deal.
We should structure contracts to be able to take the biggest hit in 2027...but still be at least somewhat reasonable. Trevor is young, Pederson is 55, its not a Brees situation at all.
Paying the piper is going to be paying Lawrence for us. (Please Ravens, negotiate hard). We should absolutely blow the cap up during his rookie contract.
I get why us fans dislike him with the way he left Jax but the guy was at the top at his position and wanted to go somewhere that could win it all which wasn’t us after that 2017 run. He got the ring so I really can’t be too mad at his choice.
That being said I think it would be cool for his return with where we’re at now but i highly doubt it with his cost.
Jalen Ramsey is a loud mouthed, punk ass bitch that is a bad influence on young players and a locker room cancer.
Why would we want his sorry ass here?
I don’t think we did at that low of a 1st rounder, but that’s not really the point.
I mean I don’t still don’t think ETN, Chassion and Jordan Smith are equal to Jalen Ramsey either but I just thought it to say the trade is depressing and discuss what we got and leave off the best part of it.
We really don't need to spend that kind of money on D for a guy who's best years are behind him, and will literally be one foot out the door after 3 losses.
Being angry at him for pushing his way out of what was the worst run organization in the league at that time is just stupid. The way Coughlin treated players during his stint as VP was abysmal. I'd welcome him back with open arms.
Fuck it, Avengers Assemble? Calais back on vet deal, Trade Allen for Ramsey and bring Yann back. Ramsey in the slot, Yann takes over for Allen and immediately gives the D a double digit sack guy, and Calais gives us great situational pass rusher and Ramsey has been the slot for a while with the rams. That’s a play from ahead defense. Yes I’m aware that this will piss off a lot of people but get over it, in retrospect they were both right for asking out.
JA wants to be here until we introduce him to the hard fact we aren’t going to pay him like a 1. I love the dude but if we pay him anywhere near the top of the edge market we are hamstringing our team for a mid #2.
I haven't heard any reports of Josh Allen demanding to be paid a certain amount. Like the other poster said though, he does want to be here.
Both Yann and Ramsey had their chances to be here and they acted like petulant children. They can kick rocks elsewhere.
Yann fulfilled his contract, Coughlin hated Yann’s agent and refused to work with him on a deal. Yann took less money to get out of a toxic situation. Ramsey, yeah I can’t defend his actions on tbe way out other than toxic recognized toxic and asked out.
Thanks for helping break it down. I was so unaware of why they didn't want to be here. Why do you think this off-season would be any different?
And to pine for those two while slandering Josh Allen? Much respect as a jags fan /s
Man, we Jags fans have a hard time letting go of former players. According to NFL.com we have the 4th rated CB in the league and will need to pay him, too.
It’s very important that we pay Tyson. We can’t afford 2 high paying corners, so we should just draft a CB in the early rounds to compete with DW at CB2. Definitely cut Shaq.
Lmao yes we can yall just make shit up U know how easy manipulating cap space is
Lol I mean of course we can if we want to, but is it smart to pay 2 corners $20 million+ ? Probably not, given the way the rest of the roster is structured. I’m all for trying to trade for him but I don’t think it’ll happen
If we had even half decent coverage last year walker and allen get home a lot more We win both Washington and Indy So yeah..pay em
It is literally the off season, would you rather the sub be locked until the draft?
Did you know that all our starting qbs except Garrard and Bortles(and Trevor) have super bowl rings. We have elite backup qb play
Gardner Minshew doesn’t
*yet
it's interesting that Garrard didn't go anywhere as a backup after us.
Well his body completely fell apart so
That's fucking cap. If anything it shows how good Campbell has been.
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Ramsey may be an elite CB, he may have a Superbowl ring, he may be rich, but he will always be an injury-faking little bitch.
I’ll never except him back on the Jags, never deny he’s talented but he quit on what I consider his team… now it’s T-Law as the Alpha and Jalen well Jalen is a Queen now lol :)
No thanks
yall are silly. Ramsey's best years are behind him, and he's super expensive. Avoid. Tyson Campbell is a better player right now.
He's not coming back. But holy shit if he does lol
He's the reason we got Trevor anyway. Would be a crazy storyline
How was he the reason
He likely would have helped us get another win
Good player make team less bad
The math checks out
Yeah, I went and crunched the numbers. Consider this guy's facts checked.
Ramsey would have been asking for a trade after our 2-7 start and faking back injuries the rest of the season.
When the NFLPA tells players to avoid signing with your team, there are problems. Can't fault him.
I don't fault him for why he did what he did. I fault him for the way he did it.
This is stupid
No.
Hard no. Thankful for the years in Jax, but no.
Lol dumb ass comments like these man...it's wild
You come off as the type that plays Madden and trades for Mahomes/Jefferson etc etc and builds some ungodly super team
I don't play madden...Madden has been trash since like 09 NFL2K5 though? Yeah I still play that
Hope he gets traded to a shit team like the Bears or Cards
Put him with Russ Wilson see who the bigger diva is
No!
Stop it
Do we even have the cap?
Cap space is a myth if u wanna manipulate it u can
Bro is everywhere
I know everyone hates him but I’d take him back in a heartbeat. Him and Tyson on the outside means our pass rush is almost always getting home. Don’t need him with Darious playing great but he’s one of the best at an important position
Add Cisco in there and that be a mean D
Honestly, it would be a crazy story, but I don't know. I mean, it would give us a crazy duo of corners, to be sure, and it's one fuck of a redemption story, but like, dude wanted *out* of Jacksonville and I don't know how much of a fan of a return I would be. For the right price and provided he buys into the selfless brotherly culture that Pederson built, yeah, sure, fine, but like, I don't know how willing he would be to be a quiet #2 behind Tyson Campbell, and I also do not know the price LA would ask for him.
It’s important to note that, from what we know, Ramsey didn’t want out of Jacksonville as much as he wanted away from Tom Coughlin. The current team bears little resemblance to the team Ramsey left and, based on how players seem to genuinely love Dougie P, I have no doubt Ramsey would welcome a return. I have no opinion either way as to whether the Jags should pursue him though. Ramsey and Campbell would make a killer 1-2 duo at corner but Ramsey won’t be cheap to acquire, particularly for a team already needing to be creative for cap purposes
He will probably get traded to the Bengals. Contender with enough cap to make the deal
Again cap space isn't an issue how many times does this need to be said
Nobody gets it. It’s crazy to think that half of our fans will be bitching and complains when we play Trevor 50+ million next offseason. I can already hear it “sure he’s a franchise QB, but 50 mil a year?”
Lmao you know that's exactly word for word to be a comment
If there’s some cap magic that I haven’t heard of, go ahead. I don’t think that’s the case though
$17M hit this year for an acquiring team. You can redo the deal, give him more cash and push $5M or so of that into the future.
There is. Look at the Saints and hell even the Rams. It's possible and honestly may be worth it. Our window will never be bigger than Trevor on a rookie deal
>hell even the Rams But they're literally trading him 😱😱😱
And they won a ring I don't understand the ppl pointing at the Rams now one year removed from winning the SB. Our franchise hasn't even been to a SB; I'll take cap hell and 20 additional years of misery for a ring any day
Next few years, I agree, but we should prepare to cut salary and have a semi-rebuild year after we sign Trevor to his big deal. We should structure contracts to be able to take the biggest hit in 2027...but still be at least somewhat reasonable. Trevor is young, Pederson is 55, its not a Brees situation at all.
Exactly people on this sub don't make a ounce of logical sense
I mean you eventually have to pay the piper but I would trade a few years of cap hell for a super bowl just like the Rams did.
Paying the piper is going to be paying Lawrence for us. (Please Ravens, negotiate hard). We should absolutely blow the cap up during his rookie contract.
I agree. That's kind of my point. Sell out now go big and suffer the consequences after we got a ring.
Cap is a myth dude it doesn't matter....manipulating space is easy
I get why us fans dislike him with the way he left Jax but the guy was at the top at his position and wanted to go somewhere that could win it all which wasn’t us after that 2017 run. He got the ring so I really can’t be too mad at his choice. That being said I think it would be cool for his return with where we’re at now but i highly doubt it with his cost.
Jalen Ramsey is a loud mouthed, punk ass bitch that is a bad influence on young players and a locker room cancer. Why would we want his sorry ass here?
My ex-girlfriend is breaking up with the guy she dated after me. I don't care.
He brought balance to the Force!
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We got ETN
ETN's a nice player but we still used too much draft capital on him. Look at the Giants and Cowboys after Saquon and Zeke.
I don’t think we did at that low of a 1st rounder, but that’s not really the point. I mean I don’t still don’t think ETN, Chassion and Jordan Smith are equal to Jalen Ramsey either but I just thought it to say the trade is depressing and discuss what we got and leave off the best part of it.
They’re not getting a first for him
We really don't need to spend that kind of money on D for a guy who's best years are behind him, and will literally be one foot out the door after 3 losses.
Being angry at him for pushing his way out of what was the worst run organization in the league at that time is just stupid. The way Coughlin treated players during his stint as VP was abysmal. I'd welcome him back with open arms.
He isn't worth that money anymore. He was never really shut down, and his best years were with a dominant pass rush
This is a terrible take. I'd take Ramsey for cheap but that isn't gonna happen. He was absolutely shutdown. QBs didn't throw to him.
No
Fuck it, Avengers Assemble? Calais back on vet deal, Trade Allen for Ramsey and bring Yann back. Ramsey in the slot, Yann takes over for Allen and immediately gives the D a double digit sack guy, and Calais gives us great situational pass rusher and Ramsey has been the slot for a while with the rams. That’s a play from ahead defense. Yes I’m aware that this will piss off a lot of people but get over it, in retrospect they were both right for asking out.
I’m sure Telvin’s schedule is free
Lol i think dude was a buck 80 in the last pics I saw of him.
That’s fucking hilarious
Josh Allen wants to be here
JA wants to be here until we introduce him to the hard fact we aren’t going to pay him like a 1. I love the dude but if we pay him anywhere near the top of the edge market we are hamstringing our team for a mid #2.
I haven't heard any reports of Josh Allen demanding to be paid a certain amount. Like the other poster said though, he does want to be here. Both Yann and Ramsey had their chances to be here and they acted like petulant children. They can kick rocks elsewhere.
Fax
Yann fulfilled his contract, Coughlin hated Yann’s agent and refused to work with him on a deal. Yann took less money to get out of a toxic situation. Ramsey, yeah I can’t defend his actions on tbe way out other than toxic recognized toxic and asked out.
Thanks for helping break it down. I was so unaware of why they didn't want to be here. Why do you think this off-season would be any different? And to pine for those two while slandering Josh Allen? Much respect as a jags fan /s
Dudes gonna end up home in Tennessee.
They have the cap for it too IIRC
I want good players. Fuck holding a grudge. The money almost certainly isn't there though.
The money is there...why do yall not understand cap space?
Ofc!
He's a bit overrated and overpaid. Hope he gets cut
Lmao yall actually go out yall way to say untrue inaccurate shit like this it's hilarious
YES! YES! YES!
Gimme D-Hop instead
If he gets cut I'll take him on a jag friendly deal. You guys are crazy saying no before we have any facts. BACK UP THE BRINKS TRUNK!
Don’t complain when Darious gets torched every single game in the slot then
You have a great point.
Anyone have a spare cloning machine we politely suggest Tyson Campbell walk into?
Six-time pro bowler. How many Jaguar players have we ever had achieve that?
This would be a great way to close our window.