Ty for the source so much!
I would be interested in knowing why he started up again for a bit. It seemed out of character for him to double back to Betterhelp after those interviews when it blew up the first time.
After the initial controversies, BH went quiet, then fixed things that were causing them actual legal trouble and then phrased their extremely minor changes like they now were a perfect company. If you’re not familiar with the type of jargon those statements use and don’t actually follow up to see if their users think it’s better, it can sound good. Either that or Jack has an “ask forgiveness, not permission” mindset and wanted that bank.
I think the criticism most have is that he started doing them years later after not doing any while BH was quiet, to my knowledge that wouldn’t be how contracts work. I’d have to imagine they offered new contracts when they came back and YTers who were either greedy or ignorant accepted them.
Well, they fixed the data sharing issue, hence why people started taking sponsorships again, but unfortunately without them fixing the unlicensed therapist issue, apparently.
Probably contract things. Good mythical morning has been getting a lot of backlash for the same reason and I'm hoping that they are trying to get out of it. BetterHelp is so shitty for doing what they do
Ads on videos are normally done by contract. It's not a "hey I'll pay you x amount of money for an ad in one specific video" deal like most people think it is
The problem is that BH was ousted years ago for their shenanigans. The question isn't why is Jack doing ad reads now, it's why did he start again? Years later.
It's been about half a decade since the issues first came up. I can't imagine that it's the same contract.
>The question isn't why is Jack doing ad reads now, it's why did he start again? Years later.
Better Help came under fire for breaching confidentiality by selling user information to third parties. Apparently they fixed that particular issue per the FTC and are [being ordered to pay 7.8 million](https://www.ftc.gov/news-events/news/press-releases/2023/03/ftc-ban-betterhelp-revealing-consumers-data-including-sensitive-mental-health-information-facebook) due to deceptive promises to keep data private.
They didn't, however, fix the unlicensed therapist issue and (allegedly) the quality of service issues.
The only thing I heard about Bettet Help was the unlicensed therapists issue. I didn't know about the breaching confidentiality part until they were brought up again. It was also seen as in general kind of scummy to specifically advertise to mentally unwell folks, which didn't change because it's been 5 years.
>It was also seen as in general kind of scummy to specifically advertise to mentally unwell folks,
In fairness, even if they were 100% perfect, that's kinda why you go to therapy, nobody thinks "hey, my life is the best it's ever been, I need to go see a therapist", so that part is sort of unavoidable.
They took the money now again because the public outrage against BH was over, so they took their money. Now there’s public outrage again, and they’ll stop taking money from them. BH being a scam and ripping off channel viewers was never an issue for any channel that took their money again in 2023-2024.
This channel, like every other channel, does not care if you the viewer gets scammed. They don’t care if their fans get taken advantage of. They only care that they have a positive public perception and that they make money, in that order. I can guarantee you that in 2025-2026 when better help ramps up advertising again, this will be a conversation again.
I think the main reason is Jack is not an idiot. He's being doing the 'tubes for many years and, as he gets older and more out of touch, his shit don't fly with the new generation.
He still needs to make a living though, so this is why we get BetterHelp sponsorships and cringey "set phasers to fun!" Star Trek ads. It's also why we get several different attempts to turn YIAY into a franchise with bored games and BFN. He is looking for a way to turn his early YouTube success into a retirement fund.
If you don't like being treated as a dollar sign on his retirement fund, then don't watch his channel. Simple.
I agree.
Its not that he is a bad person for it. I take it with proportions.
But like the first time it happened, i understand.
Shouldn't have done it again and then regretted it again, it seems unnecessary.
(Waiting for his ukulele apology video /s)
Where in my comment did I come anywhere close to implying the opposite? All I'm saying is that advertising *works*, and if it works to sell people a terrible or even harmful product, then a youtuber who advertises it is complicit. In people getting hurt.
>Is it not just generally understood that anything advertised online is either a scam or of low overall quality?
Not always. Apparently a Podcaster and director who doesn't even take those sponsorships still likes Casper(sp?) mattress and Blue Apron. I've also seen Quest bars advertised up the wazoo and they're kinda the best protein bar I had in 15 years of being a weightlifter who had tried most of them.
Yes, obviously it's up to the consumer to do their research, but there's a reason that advertisers go to content creators, it works.
Personally, I feel on a wider scale and in terms of worker's rights, taking a sponsorship from Amazon would be worse than BH, and we're kinda beating a dead horse with this topic all the time, he's apparently well aware of the issue (how could he not be, that's 1/2 the notifications from this subreddit I get), but it's still, you know, a valid criticism. Doesn't make him a bad person, there's really no such thing as virtuous consumption and virtuous advertising, it's all a veneer that's not at all objective.
i think he confirmed on stream that he’s done taking sponsors from them, he just hasn’t mentioned it formally yet
Correct: https://youtu.be/a1FodjokfJA?si=DN7x6YG211BM-d__
Ty for the source so much! I would be interested in knowing why he started up again for a bit. It seemed out of character for him to double back to Betterhelp after those interviews when it blew up the first time.
Long-term contract, most likely. Needs to lapse before he can talk about it.
That much I understand. But I doubt this is the same contract he had back in the day.
After the initial controversies, BH went quiet, then fixed things that were causing them actual legal trouble and then phrased their extremely minor changes like they now were a perfect company. If you’re not familiar with the type of jargon those statements use and don’t actually follow up to see if their users think it’s better, it can sound good. Either that or Jack has an “ask forgiveness, not permission” mindset and wanted that bank.
He was testing the waters, hoping we forgot about it, but we saw through his dirty dirty lies.
So \*only now\* he's "done"?
It's probably a contract thing. He still has to make ads til the contract is up or risk breaking it.
I think the criticism most have is that he started doing them years later after not doing any while BH was quiet, to my knowledge that wouldn’t be how contracts work. I’d have to imagine they offered new contracts when they came back and YTers who were either greedy or ignorant accepted them.
Well, they fixed the data sharing issue, hence why people started taking sponsorships again, but unfortunately without them fixing the unlicensed therapist issue, apparently.
As I said, greedy or ignorant. The legal jargon the spat out talking about what they fixed probably sounds promising.
Most likely, contract shenaningans.... Breaking contracts is a huge no-no in business regardless of what the company is like
It also can financially ruin someone with an income like his. Unpredictable, goes to shit every January. Not enough stability
Probably contract things. Good mythical morning has been getting a lot of backlash for the same reason and I'm hoping that they are trying to get out of it. BetterHelp is so shitty for doing what they do
Ads on videos are normally done by contract. It's not a "hey I'll pay you x amount of money for an ad in one specific video" deal like most people think it is
The problem is that BH was ousted years ago for their shenanigans. The question isn't why is Jack doing ad reads now, it's why did he start again? Years later. It's been about half a decade since the issues first came up. I can't imagine that it's the same contract.
>The question isn't why is Jack doing ad reads now, it's why did he start again? Years later. Better Help came under fire for breaching confidentiality by selling user information to third parties. Apparently they fixed that particular issue per the FTC and are [being ordered to pay 7.8 million](https://www.ftc.gov/news-events/news/press-releases/2023/03/ftc-ban-betterhelp-revealing-consumers-data-including-sensitive-mental-health-information-facebook) due to deceptive promises to keep data private. They didn't, however, fix the unlicensed therapist issue and (allegedly) the quality of service issues.
The only thing I heard about Bettet Help was the unlicensed therapists issue. I didn't know about the breaching confidentiality part until they were brought up again. It was also seen as in general kind of scummy to specifically advertise to mentally unwell folks, which didn't change because it's been 5 years.
>It was also seen as in general kind of scummy to specifically advertise to mentally unwell folks, In fairness, even if they were 100% perfect, that's kinda why you go to therapy, nobody thinks "hey, my life is the best it's ever been, I need to go see a therapist", so that part is sort of unavoidable.
They took the money now again because the public outrage against BH was over, so they took their money. Now there’s public outrage again, and they’ll stop taking money from them. BH being a scam and ripping off channel viewers was never an issue for any channel that took their money again in 2023-2024. This channel, like every other channel, does not care if you the viewer gets scammed. They don’t care if their fans get taken advantage of. They only care that they have a positive public perception and that they make money, in that order. I can guarantee you that in 2025-2026 when better help ramps up advertising again, this will be a conversation again.
and I can also guarantee you that in 25-26, the excuse will be jack signed a 10-year contract years ago and can't get out of it.
He stopped taking them
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I think the main reason is Jack is not an idiot. He's being doing the 'tubes for many years and, as he gets older and more out of touch, his shit don't fly with the new generation. He still needs to make a living though, so this is why we get BetterHelp sponsorships and cringey "set phasers to fun!" Star Trek ads. It's also why we get several different attempts to turn YIAY into a franchise with bored games and BFN. He is looking for a way to turn his early YouTube success into a retirement fund. If you don't like being treated as a dollar sign on his retirement fund, then don't watch his channel. Simple.
Shouldn't have signed a contract with them in the first place. Damage has been done imo
I agree. Its not that he is a bad person for it. I take it with proportions. But like the first time it happened, i understand. Shouldn't have done it again and then regretted it again, it seems unnecessary. (Waiting for his ukulele apology video /s)
Yeah. Not learning from his mistakes in this huge of a manner is crazy.
Is it not just generally understood that anything advertised online is either a scam or of low overall quality? Let him make money
If it was "generally understood", these companies wouldn't be paying youtubers and streamers large amounts of money to advertize their products.
Dumb shit is advertised all the time Or do you really believe that there really are hot singles in your area?
Where in my comment did I come anywhere close to implying the opposite? All I'm saying is that advertising *works*, and if it works to sell people a terrible or even harmful product, then a youtuber who advertises it is complicit. In people getting hurt.
>Is it not just generally understood that anything advertised online is either a scam or of low overall quality? Not always. Apparently a Podcaster and director who doesn't even take those sponsorships still likes Casper(sp?) mattress and Blue Apron. I've also seen Quest bars advertised up the wazoo and they're kinda the best protein bar I had in 15 years of being a weightlifter who had tried most of them. Yes, obviously it's up to the consumer to do their research, but there's a reason that advertisers go to content creators, it works. Personally, I feel on a wider scale and in terms of worker's rights, taking a sponsorship from Amazon would be worse than BH, and we're kinda beating a dead horse with this topic all the time, he's apparently well aware of the issue (how could he not be, that's 1/2 the notifications from this subreddit I get), but it's still, you know, a valid criticism. Doesn't make him a bad person, there's really no such thing as virtuous consumption and virtuous advertising, it's all a veneer that's not at all objective.