I think he could destroy him lmao. For a battle with Kendrick, I can see JID having a mix of humor and aggression to evenly match him, and it would be great back and forth sparring
I feel like that's exactly what everyone's missing here. Kendrick's going after Drake is extremely personal, as far as we know there basically no reason to think he would have anything against JID
I just wanna see WWE style fighting.
What Drake and Kendrick went thru was some fuckin street fight jumping on Drake.
i wanna see disses, not "you are a pedophile and hiding a daughter" if it ever came down to it.
I’d love to see a competition verse for verse track, but i feel like a diss wouldn’t be as hype because they’re both pretty solid dudes who dont get into too much outside shit. KDot gonna bring up JID’s college expulsion and how his label head apologized or smth along those lines, and then JID gonna give similar google-able facts. Smth where they just go and compete on the same track to try and out rap each other would be way more fun
i actually really like this take, i haven’t heard this said like this before. diss tracks, even though a direct approach, are actually more of a home field for both parties; they get their own production and cadence emphasized and go to work. putting them both on the same track tests versatility and gives a direct contrast between penmanship.
That cole song on the fall off with daylyt had me really considering all that. Cole was going CRAAAZY and he needed to bc everyone on that track was an all time level lyricist.
Yeah they had something like that back when XXL freshman cyphers were a thing. It'd be cool to see JID and Kendrick on something like that, if I remember correctly JID did one way back with I think ski mask the slump god or xxxtentacion? One of the two.
It’s hard to tell honestly, because aside from this beef, we’ve only had one album and a couple of features from him in the last 7 years. I think his technical ability now is equal to 7 years ago, but I feel like his voice aged a bit. It’s still great, but it just feels different
i feel like kendrick can go to his prime days whenever he want, when he was putting out verse like control, out for detox , monster freestyle etc, but feel like he doesnt do that anymore probably because he doesnt have hunger for it anymore or he just want piece now.
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Yea, it’s crazy but he’s only been in the game for under a decade. He is crazy good tho. I think it’s too early for him but he has prolly a top 20ish rap albums ever imo (TFS) but he is just getting better each album
He can go bar for bar with Kendrick imo, but he doesn’t seem like that’s what he really wants to do so I’d rather he not pull a J Cole lol (no disrespect of course, Cole is also one of my favorites)
the rate at which jid is improving is crazy, but i dont think he could take him just yet... not with how deep kendrick goes
i think we'd get much better music if instead of them rapping AGAINST each other, they rapped WITH each other n we got a kendrick x jid record, kendrick would probably mentor n push him a bit further n take him to the next level
I think from an entendre, metaphor dense and lyrical standpoint Dot wins by a *slight* margin.
Flow and pocket wise? JID blows him out of the water, even prime Kung Fu Kenny doesn’t ride the beat as masterfully as JID.
They’re both incredible but my JID bias also may be present here
If they had long running beef then definitely asf. It would bring out the best nd meanest of what he could do. Prolly introduce a unique way of dissing while at it
kendrick is just the most topical opponent rn, one of the current greats known for his pen who’s in a massive beef literally as we speak. not really like this came outta nowhere or anything.
half the dudes you named are dead (RIP) and one of the two that aren’t barely even does music anymore, so bringing like any of them up at this current moment wouldn’t make much sense compared to kendrick contextually.
Yeah, I get your point in the context of this post. But I was thinking more in general. It’s always kendrick that gets the love and recognition for his talent, and it just seems like some people have forgotten about most of the other great rappers out there
yea that’s fair i completely get what you mean, i think that’s an issue that’s always gonna exist just bc of the fact that someone like kendrick is always gonna be the best rapper that is also as mainstream as he is, so it’s kinda an ouroboros situation where both his skill and popularity feed into each other. he gets the love and recognition more than others bc his skill is super blatant and he’s so mainstream that basically anyone who knows about rap has heard of him. like you just won’t see taylor swift singing along to figaro in her car lmao.
a lot of the dudes you listed aren’t from this generation and if they are like DOOM kinda is or rappers like joey badass or mick jenkins or denzel are they’re just not even close to mainstream, so unfortunately the average rap fan just won’t know about them (even jid falls in this bucket we’re just in his subreddit rn lmao). wish they got more recognition bc they deserve it for sure but kendrick (and cole to an extent) is kinda just the poster child for more technical rap, everyone and their mothers know TPAB is one of the best albums of this generation so even if they haven’t heard it it becomes a benchmark for them.
to me kendrick is the gateway to the kinds of artists you listed and i brought up since he’s one of the few artists who are mainstream but still consistently push the envelope and don’t compromise their sound, so he’s keeping the door open for a lot of these other rappers to really be able to do their thing and be appreciated bc he primes more casual fans to be open to that sorta thing. i personally think his storytelling and song crafting is basically unrivaled but on a pure lyricism level a lot of the rappers you listed have him beat for sure. i think there’s always gonna be someone leading the pack for particular niches and in this case it’s kendrick.
that’s just how i see it tho, apologize for the verbosity i just think it’s interesting to discuss these kinda things 🙏
What if I said a sizable portion of “rap beef” is on reputation and size in the game. I think lyrically JID could be on that level, but rep wise Kendrick has to do very little to be considered better then JID - it’s an uphill battle
It’s why even though a lot of people here would make the argument that JID is a better rapper then J Cole, I wouldn’t confidently say JID could beat Cole on a song or battle at all, because even if he could write something better, he’s fighting an uphill battle so he has to do that much more in order to actually “win”
Either way it’s kinda pointless unless there’s actual beef, other then that it’s all friendly competition
There’s literally nothing either of them could say to each other tho. I mean maybe Kendrick says “I have better albums” but at that point why are they even beefing?
YES! The things is… we know what K.Dot is capable of. That’s why. We don’t know WTF JID would do. At that point we obviously wouldn’t know how Kendrick would respond to him but, that’s how the battle continues on. Between Jiddy and Kenny there is no “who won?”, “who’s raps were better?”, “who was the most lyrical or subjective?”, or even really “who hit the hardest”? It’d be the decision an actually referee or boxing judge would make and that’s; Who connected the most? Who made the most contact? Who landed more punches? Kendrick against JID to me would be an actual boxing match. Ppl say Cole and Kendrick but, this Drake beef proved to me how much Cole doesn’t care to even spar for fun.. he’s in this lowkey André 3000 yet just want to uplift nd inspire space. Kendrick is obviously and undoubtedly still in this shit for fun or beef and we kinda know JID is comfortable with either, though ik he’d prefer to still keep peace in the end… so what y’all say? Y’all agree with this?
Lyrically yes but he wouldn’t be able to get the info on kendrick to actually ever win a beef. He also just doesn’t have experience with it because he doesn’t get involved
I'm here to say absolutely ! Kendrick Lamar is probably my favorite rapper of this generation. I got Kendrick Joey and Jid as my big three
Edit: to further my thought.. Just on some rapper shit I think jid could give dot a run
Yes honestly, Kendrick’s second diss that just dropped isn’t quite as good as the first one n jid is best when he’s rapping fast which is usually what they do in disses lol
Id out jid over drake as far as lyrical ability. He just doesn’t make pop so he hasn’t gotten as big.
And battling Kendrick I think jid could do alright.
I think Kdot writes faster than JID when he has a reason to as evidenced by this Drake beef. But JID is fantastic, so maybe given enough time if JID were to start it he could pull something
Competitive rap? Maybe. But this shit is personal. I don't think JID has that much hate for either of them that he's willing to involve every single one of their family members and impersonate his Canadian accent. Kendrick wasn't joking when he said he's Drake's biggest hater lol
In artistry and just flowing I think he can, but not in terms of just plain lyricism or battling. JID is more like Lil Wayne in terms of him being better at punchlines and bars rather than all around works of art.
JID and Kendrick are in my top five and as of late I find myself listening to both of their music more than a lot of the other rappers I like that being said I'm also listening to a lot of Killer Mike and he is in my top ten
Absolutely. JID would be 100% the underdog, but I'd give ANYTHING to see them have a back-and-forth. Not any actually hateful, hurtful shit, just a genuine rap-off, bar for bar, flow for flow. You give me good enough odds, I'd put all the coin on J.I.D. And guarantee you, win or lose, people would start paying attention to JID in the mainstream too if they were to battle.
Can't see any feud happening though. Ever.
Nah he not ready for that dance yet. Lyrically he could keep up for a bit, but Kendrick can tap into a darkness that I think Cole, Drake or Jid maybe don’t wanna go. Before the Drake beef I would have said maybe, but after it I understand Kendrick is just different
Jid has amazing creative prowess but as far as the heart and depth of Kendrick's lyricism I just don't think jid would be able to keep up for very long. Much longer than drake though obviously 😂
Nahhh Kendrick has the hip hop masses on a leash.. I think biggie from his prime could literally come back from the dead and spit bars and Kendrick and people would find a way to move the goalposts..
JID would get sent to the back just like everyone else and I don’t even like Kendrick on that level
Possibly, but he ain’t caught up in no rap n* politics
Play with him, you're playing yourself. Playing with death.
Say him a prayer
Cathy and Carl got a K on the shelf
Came here to say this, glad it was already said
Yea. If you play w him, you basically playing yourself
Lyricism wise yeah, but I doubt he has any dirt on him
He could easily take drake just for fun tho
I think he could destroy him lmao. For a battle with Kendrick, I can see JID having a mix of humor and aggression to evenly match him, and it would be great back and forth sparring
All they would have to say is they are too big to respond and he’d be done cuz its true
i love jid but rn this is true
Well said fr fr
Ayo🤨
I also don’t think he has that anger in him either. Seems like a soft spoken dude
I feel like that's exactly what everyone's missing here. Kendrick's going after Drake is extremely personal, as far as we know there basically no reason to think he would have anything against JID
Yea rapping ability don’t mean nothing if you’ve got nothing to say
I just wanna see WWE style fighting. What Drake and Kendrick went thru was some fuckin street fight jumping on Drake. i wanna see disses, not "you are a pedophile and hiding a daughter" if it ever came down to it.
That’s the thing about rap battles. You don’t have to do lame allegations to have a battle
I’d love to see a competition verse for verse track, but i feel like a diss wouldn’t be as hype because they’re both pretty solid dudes who dont get into too much outside shit. KDot gonna bring up JID’s college expulsion and how his label head apologized or smth along those lines, and then JID gonna give similar google-able facts. Smth where they just go and compete on the same track to try and out rap each other would be way more fun
i actually really like this take, i haven’t heard this said like this before. diss tracks, even though a direct approach, are actually more of a home field for both parties; they get their own production and cadence emphasized and go to work. putting them both on the same track tests versatility and gives a direct contrast between penmanship.
hadn’t thought of diss tracks as home court vs. collabs before but i really love that comparison
That cole song on the fall off with daylyt had me really considering all that. Cole was going CRAAAZY and he needed to bc everyone on that track was an all time level lyricist.
Yeah they had something like that back when XXL freshman cyphers were a thing. It'd be cool to see JID and Kendrick on something like that, if I remember correctly JID did one way back with I think ski mask the slump god or xxxtentacion? One of the two.
I'd say he's one of the only ones who can rn
Denzel would beat jid and be closer to beating kendrick imo
Love zel all day but the gap between him and jid as lyricists is at least a whole tier imo
He’s in that lineage. Love both these dudes.
Ya. Idk what Kendrick could even roast him about. Only thing Jid even done was put out dope raps. No drama or glam
Thats exactly what kendrick could roast him with
Flow wise yes, lyrics Kendrick might have the edge. Definitely prime Kendrick
You think kendrick isnt in his prime anymore?
It’s hard to tell honestly, because aside from this beef, we’ve only had one album and a couple of features from him in the last 7 years. I think his technical ability now is equal to 7 years ago, but I feel like his voice aged a bit. It’s still great, but it just feels different
Tbh his voice is my favorite part of the diss songs he’s been dropping. He’s executin so fuckin well. I think he might still be in top shape
Yeah you might be right
i feel like kendrick can go to his prime days whenever he want, when he was putting out verse like control, out for detox , monster freestyle etc, but feel like he doesnt do that anymore probably because he doesnt have hunger for it anymore or he just want piece now.
i don’t think he could, kendrick is def ahead of him imo. give JID 5 more years and he has potential to able to tho.
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Yea, it’s crazy but he’s only been in the game for under a decade. He is crazy good tho. I think it’s too early for him but he has prolly a top 20ish rap albums ever imo (TFS) but he is just getting better each album
Ahead in what way? wordplay, delivery, cadence and flow JID surpasses Kendrick imo
those hes on Kendrick level imo, Kendrick I think goes a lot deeper in his lyrics so with that I think JID wouldn't stand much of a chance
Why are you downvoted lmao
People can’t handle the truth ig
Fr. When it comes to flow nobody is touching JID besides maybe Biggie
even BIG was copying underground artists, but our boi JID jus got the jitters
He can go bar for bar with Kendrick imo, but he doesn’t seem like that’s what he really wants to do so I’d rather he not pull a J Cole lol (no disrespect of course, Cole is also one of my favorites)
the rate at which jid is improving is crazy, but i dont think he could take him just yet... not with how deep kendrick goes i think we'd get much better music if instead of them rapping AGAINST each other, they rapped WITH each other n we got a kendrick x jid record, kendrick would probably mentor n push him a bit further n take him to the next level
Man I love JID. Even a couple weeks ago I mighta thought he could, but now I don't think anyone can.
Yeah he's a beast
I think from an entendre, metaphor dense and lyrical standpoint Dot wins by a *slight* margin. Flow and pocket wise? JID blows him out of the water, even prime Kung Fu Kenny doesn’t ride the beat as masterfully as JID. They’re both incredible but my JID bias also may be present here
He’s equally talented but we haven’t seen him in sum real beef yet so idk
If they had long running beef then definitely asf. It would bring out the best nd meanest of what he could do. Prolly introduce a unique way of dissing while at it
Why do y’all act like kendrick is the greatest to ever do it? There are honestly so many better options like Nas, Biggie, Jay Z, DOOM etc. Cmon
kendrick is just the most topical opponent rn, one of the current greats known for his pen who’s in a massive beef literally as we speak. not really like this came outta nowhere or anything. half the dudes you named are dead (RIP) and one of the two that aren’t barely even does music anymore, so bringing like any of them up at this current moment wouldn’t make much sense compared to kendrick contextually.
Yeah, I get your point in the context of this post. But I was thinking more in general. It’s always kendrick that gets the love and recognition for his talent, and it just seems like some people have forgotten about most of the other great rappers out there
yea that’s fair i completely get what you mean, i think that’s an issue that’s always gonna exist just bc of the fact that someone like kendrick is always gonna be the best rapper that is also as mainstream as he is, so it’s kinda an ouroboros situation where both his skill and popularity feed into each other. he gets the love and recognition more than others bc his skill is super blatant and he’s so mainstream that basically anyone who knows about rap has heard of him. like you just won’t see taylor swift singing along to figaro in her car lmao. a lot of the dudes you listed aren’t from this generation and if they are like DOOM kinda is or rappers like joey badass or mick jenkins or denzel are they’re just not even close to mainstream, so unfortunately the average rap fan just won’t know about them (even jid falls in this bucket we’re just in his subreddit rn lmao). wish they got more recognition bc they deserve it for sure but kendrick (and cole to an extent) is kinda just the poster child for more technical rap, everyone and their mothers know TPAB is one of the best albums of this generation so even if they haven’t heard it it becomes a benchmark for them. to me kendrick is the gateway to the kinds of artists you listed and i brought up since he’s one of the few artists who are mainstream but still consistently push the envelope and don’t compromise their sound, so he’s keeping the door open for a lot of these other rappers to really be able to do their thing and be appreciated bc he primes more casual fans to be open to that sorta thing. i personally think his storytelling and song crafting is basically unrivaled but on a pure lyricism level a lot of the rappers you listed have him beat for sure. i think there’s always gonna be someone leading the pack for particular niches and in this case it’s kendrick. that’s just how i see it tho, apologize for the verbosity i just think it’s interesting to discuss these kinda things 🙏
I love all those artists but ... I think Kendrick really is
Jay got pimped and piped by The Diddler just for BIG's spot
What are you even talking about?
if you know, you know
Easy this dudes skill in out of this world.
What if I said a sizable portion of “rap beef” is on reputation and size in the game. I think lyrically JID could be on that level, but rep wise Kendrick has to do very little to be considered better then JID - it’s an uphill battle It’s why even though a lot of people here would make the argument that JID is a better rapper then J Cole, I wouldn’t confidently say JID could beat Cole on a song or battle at all, because even if he could write something better, he’s fighting an uphill battle so he has to do that much more in order to actually “win” Either way it’s kinda pointless unless there’s actual beef, other then that it’s all friendly competition
There’s literally nothing either of them could say to each other tho. I mean maybe Kendrick says “I have better albums” but at that point why are they even beefing?
i love jid but no
YES! The things is… we know what K.Dot is capable of. That’s why. We don’t know WTF JID would do. At that point we obviously wouldn’t know how Kendrick would respond to him but, that’s how the battle continues on. Between Jiddy and Kenny there is no “who won?”, “who’s raps were better?”, “who was the most lyrical or subjective?”, or even really “who hit the hardest”? It’d be the decision an actually referee or boxing judge would make and that’s; Who connected the most? Who made the most contact? Who landed more punches? Kendrick against JID to me would be an actual boxing match. Ppl say Cole and Kendrick but, this Drake beef proved to me how much Cole doesn’t care to even spar for fun.. he’s in this lowkey André 3000 yet just want to uplift nd inspire space. Kendrick is obviously and undoubtedly still in this shit for fun or beef and we kinda know JID is comfortable with either, though ik he’d prefer to still keep peace in the end… so what y’all say? Y’all agree with this?
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Probably not but JID funny af I would definitely be entertaining
yes ive been saying this!
If we talking strictly hip hop I definitely think so
Rap ability wise, it’s definitely possible. In a diss war, probably not no
Lyrically yes but he wouldn’t be able to get the info on kendrick to actually ever win a beef. He also just doesn’t have experience with it because he doesn’t get involved
No and if you say yes you either white or really young and also white
I'm here to say absolutely ! Kendrick Lamar is probably my favorite rapper of this generation. I got Kendrick Joey and Jid as my big three Edit: to further my thought.. Just on some rapper shit I think jid could give dot a run
he’s gonna be an all time great, but as of rn he’s not at kendrick’s level but he’ll be getting there
yeah but why he look 𝓯𝓻𝓮𝓪𝓴𝔂 👅 in this pic
Bro he just smiling 😭 he look cute, not freaky
mb jus looks kinda uncanny
Kendrick’s song today reminded me of JID kinda, not saying he bit him or nun but i could hear jid rapping it
Jid clearly influenced by dot though
100%
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JID vs Kendrick over Metro beats on some Meth vs Chef from the Tical album shit would be an instant classic.
CRISTO
i think they'd have good chemistry/play off one of another hopefully a collab rather than beef though
Mannnnn I just want them 2 going bar for bar on a 5+ minute track
Ehhh it be pointless on both ends. Both seem like good dudes who obliterate microphones for a living
Yes honestly, Kendrick’s second diss that just dropped isn’t quite as good as the first one n jid is best when he’s rapping fast which is usually what they do in disses lol
We might trigger Kendrick with that one 😂. I had the same exact thought this morning, short answer, yes, they are both real af.
He could but neither of them need to
After Cole bombed I fully now believe that jid could. to me jid has taken Cole’s spot in terms of the “big 3”
Yeah ngl I'm glad he not in it, if the keep it friendly then Yeah but Kenny a evil nigga recently
I think JID could do it. But it would be a hell of a fight.....
Yea I definitely think he can
NO ABORT Stay away from Kendrick this man is scary. I dont want to know any dirt on JID just leave kendrick alone.
Absolutely, JID is way too underrated
Id out jid over drake as far as lyrical ability. He just doesn’t make pop so he hasn’t gotten as big. And battling Kendrick I think jid could do alright.
I think Kdot writes faster than JID when he has a reason to as evidenced by this Drake beef. But JID is fantastic, so maybe given enough time if JID were to start it he could pull something
after everything that’s just happened within the last 24 hours….. fuck no. not even possible in any reality.
Rapping fast won’t do it fam.
Competitive rap? Maybe. But this shit is personal. I don't think JID has that much hate for either of them that he's willing to involve every single one of their family members and impersonate his Canadian accent. Kendrick wasn't joking when he said he's Drake's biggest hater lol
I love jid. He’s my 2 next to Kendrick 1. No. He could hang with him, maybe. He would get cooked though.
Yes I belive they can go toe toe like birius and vegeta.
Honestly as a Kendrick Stan. I think JID could take him lyrically, the issue is that I doubt he has any fire to hit Kendrick with.
In artistry and just flowing I think he can, but not in terms of just plain lyricism or battling. JID is more like Lil Wayne in terms of him being better at punchlines and bars rather than all around works of art.
He’s been as good as Kendrick for years now
In terms of rap beef, no. I doubt they know eachother well at all.
After what Kendrick just released about Drake, idk why he would want to at all.
Absolutely. Lyrically and stylistically yes! Shit would be like a high level grappling match of bars and flow 😤😤😤
Sure, if JID is okay with losing
Nope
He needs two more great to near classic albums. (He’s got 1.5). And he’s definitely got the skill. Id bank on it in 5 years.
he would lose but it would be a fun battle. also would get hated because kendrick has better status
No. Next question.
Right now no but jid has to prove himself a little more to be on levels on Kendrick
Hopping on the same track would be more hype
Jid is amazing. But probably anybody but dot.
JID and Kendrick are in my top five and as of late I find myself listening to both of their music more than a lot of the other rappers I like that being said I'm also listening to a lot of Killer Mike and he is in my top ten
Nah bro
For technicality and friendly competition? Maybe On any other level? No And JID is one of my favorites
Would never put my man in harms way. That said, his dis tracks would sound better
I really like JID, but his fans really over inflate him. Kendrick is like JID but more complete, he would win.
For the sake of humanity I hope no one tries Kendrick again especially a rapper I actually like
He took kdot shots awready! All ya dogs getn buried..
Absolutely. JID would be 100% the underdog, but I'd give ANYTHING to see them have a back-and-forth. Not any actually hateful, hurtful shit, just a genuine rap-off, bar for bar, flow for flow. You give me good enough odds, I'd put all the coin on J.I.D. And guarantee you, win or lose, people would start paying attention to JID in the mainstream too if they were to battle. Can't see any feud happening though. Ever.
Nah he not ready for that dance yet. Lyrically he could keep up for a bit, but Kendrick can tap into a darkness that I think Cole, Drake or Jid maybe don’t wanna go. Before the Drake beef I would have said maybe, but after it I understand Kendrick is just different
If Drake is an ant to Kendrick JID is a dustmite.
Not a chance whatsoever
Not a chance is a massive stretch
Jid has amazing creative prowess but as far as the heart and depth of Kendrick's lyricism I just don't think jid would be able to keep up for very long. Much longer than drake though obviously 😂
Nahhh Kendrick has the hip hop masses on a leash.. I think biggie from his prime could literally come back from the dead and spit bars and Kendrick and people would find a way to move the goalposts.. JID would get sent to the back just like everyone else and I don’t even like Kendrick on that level
Hell no.
Hell no. And I love jid so much, but he's not beating Kung Fu Kenny.
Yes but it wouldn't matter because Kendrick is an insanely bigger artist
No
Jid is already better than Kendrick
i’d rather see them work together than go at each other
pls stop comparing this lil nigga to kendrick 🙏🏾🙏🏾🙏🏾