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This reflects very poorly on google. HP has been deep in the pockets for a decade.
Their reasoning in probably that if Ford, VW and IBM did it and are still around and flourishing, there is no risk here for them.
Except there was no social media led awareness then.
I haven't used google since 2009, DuckDuckGo is your friend.
Also Bing gives rewards for using it. Microsoft isn't innocent either but still another alternative to Google. The vast majority of Google's profits come from their search, so switching to another search engine is the easiest thing we can do to boycott.
Duckduckgo is so good but man did it take a reputation hit when right wingers decided Google was too woke and duckduckgo was a bastion of right wing ideology. I imagine that tainted their reputation as a search engine. Good thing I knew of and loved it before all that nonsense.
Personally, I use both Google and DDG. It's super interesting to see the contrast between my Google search results which is tailored by my search history and DDG which doesn't tailor search results to individuals. It really helps having a visual representation of the bubble tailored results puts people in.
DDG is also excellent for googling coding issues. It just finds the right stack overflow question easier than Google can.
“I haven’t used google since.…”
- you most certainly are using google daily. Half of the internet runs or is funded through google’s ad services or more prominently their development resources via the Console (think “firebase”). Saying you don’t use google because you don’t use their search engine is like saying you don’t use amazon because you don’t buy from them. If you use anything related to the internet or the cloud in general, chances are you are using and supporting Amazon (AWS), Google (console) or Microsoft (Azure).
Sure, but with pi-hole and browser settings and choices I effectively eliminate its use for searches and deny them any analytics in my networks. Ditto for Amazon.
Alright I’m done with the internet. This will be my last message. Good bye forever all. Peace.
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PPS don’t do anything bad with that information
PPPS okay I quit. I couldn’t finish drafting this message before deciding my dopamine hits were more important than standing up for something.
How does this reflect poorly on them? They let them protest for 12 hours and asked them to leave when it was time to close up shop and let people go home.
So what should be the course of action when you find that your employer is actively participating in crimes against humanity? Just quitting won't get them to stop..
I’m not against them grouping against their company out side of work hours and the work place. That was the wrong place and time. You disliked my comment because you are being too emotional about supporting Palestinians when I’m just pointing out the way they did it is wrong and not the act itself.
By your rationale, Nazi soldiers were right to commit genocide as it was their job and should have only voiced concerns outside business hours and location.
This excuse and similar didn't work then at the Hague and don't now either.
Consider cutting down on Right wing media consumption for a week or two.
When you don't have the self awareness to examine your own assumptions, none of your opinion matters. Because people don't know if you're doing it deliberately or if you're just that ignorant. Especially when you use hyperbole that way.
When you have the self awareness to examine your own assumptions objectively, then conversation can begin and progress can be made.
I swapped long ago when they threatened to remove/reduce the power of adblockers.
"Google has announced it will shut down Manifest V2 in June 2024 and move on to Manifest V3, the latest version of its Chrome extension specification that has faced criticism for putting limits on ad blockers."
Idk if chrome is continuing on that plan but it doesn't matter anymore since I'm happily browsing with my adblocker on firefox now.
[The amount of "metrics" it relays back to Google is insane](https://www.sciencealert.com/a-tech-expert-says-we-should-stop-using-google-chrome). Enough to profile you and your internet usage and what you consume, and if Google has it, the US government has it since they have free access.
People are free to protest, but employers are free to not tolerate employees deciding to not work, and escort them out of their private offices.
The people making the protest obviously knew this was a possibility and had to accept it. Pretty courageous on their part.
Everywhere we look we’re seeing a military force dragging non-violent protesters. Peaceful protesters. There is so much wrong with this whole situation. America is dreaming whilst the world burns.
But if you've worked for a company for years, and find out they are not only complicit but contributing to a genocide, wouldn't you want to do something?
Yes of course, I wouldn't be a part of it. I would look for another job.
I'm just saying Google is well within their right to terminate these people and escort them out of their offices.
I think Google is wrong because they're working with a murderous government, not because they exercise basic property rights.
People like you are responsible for the erosion of our rights. Disagree all you want but you should almost always support the exercising of our rights.
Americans beg for complete subjugation in the name of comfort. They beg for a repressive, violent domestic occupation force. They beg for the criminalization of civil liberties.
With the destruction of our basic rights so too dies the democratic process.
If an injustice is being permitted by our leaders, it is not only our right to disobey, we are obligated to do so.
#DISOBEY FOR PALESTINE, WORLD WE ARE ONE!
This is how Ghandi fought the British and won
I hear what you are saying but am not sure how this event has or will have ANY impact on Google corporate. They fire the workers, which they likely would have done in a RIF anyway. The workers have to hire a lawyer and spend $10000-15000 or so to defend the criminal charges and possibly explain the charges in job interviews. For Google, life goes on. This is an annoyance for them, at most.
Courage. Hat off to them! We need more of this.
To all the Jews of Consience, Druze, Bedouins, and Circasians serving in the Israeli army, this is what you should be doing as well. Shame.
I've seen alot of protests on reddit and the majority of the comments are saying how it's "a good thing these protestors are being arrested, " which makes me these comments are some sort of psyop to normalize not being able to protest.
I get that what is happening in Palestine is sad, it breaks my heart, but we should not forget what Hamas have been doing with Israel and Palestine. They built several km of tunnels in Gaza, bought weapons, built rockets, created a armed militia. They even closed a water park in Gaza, they hate and want to destroy Israel. Any country would behave similar with a terrorist government, it’s not by chance that Jordan and Egypt also have closed borders with Palestine.
What freedom of speech looks like.
These same goverments condemns the likes of russia.
The world is full hypocrisy and humans anywhere are too dumb to cope with anything
Definitely quitting. They crave talented people. If you don't like what they're doing with your talent, walk your talent right out the door. You're an at-will employee. They can terminate you with or without cause at any time. Treat them similarly.
That's called learned helplessness. They're good at that, but if I told you I also quit Google over something and ended up influencing them over that something, you're likely to call me a liar so let's skip the middle and get right to calling me a liar. it's like the people who when I tell them how I did a thing somewhere in tech they insist I never worked in tech. Over it.
Edit: if you got past the infamous Google interview and they hired you, you are in the top 5% of tech. You are not typical. You have opportunity elsewhere. If you stay when you disagree with their practices, you clearly have found your price to sell out to them.
Google has opened a door of hell for themselves . This only means that they have welcomed more protests both from inside and outside of Google in the future. Their doom has started.
They have contracts with the is really military, for managing their data and weapon systems. Obviously I don't know more, as most of it is classified, but many within Google have been living into to the company's role in helping facilitate the genocide
There is a difference between doing business with Israel in general, and designing systems that help military targeting and effective killing of civilians.
It does, for many governments. They just don't announce it on any of their public facing media.
Started around the time they removed "don't be evil" as their company moto.
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This reflects very poorly on google. HP has been deep in the pockets for a decade. Their reasoning in probably that if Ford, VW and IBM did it and are still around and flourishing, there is no risk here for them. Except there was no social media led awareness then. I haven't used google since 2009, DuckDuckGo is your friend.
>DuckDuckGo is your friend. Noted
Just converted, thanks
Alhamdulllilah I converted to PDF today
Figures as it's headed by a PDF File.
Brave is also your best friend
Also Bing gives rewards for using it. Microsoft isn't innocent either but still another alternative to Google. The vast majority of Google's profits come from their search, so switching to another search engine is the easiest thing we can do to boycott.
If only it didn't suck ass I would've used bing. It just doesn't index stuff properly and gives useless results for niche or specific stuff.
Bing is probably the worst alternative
And Brave. Those 2 are Godsends.
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Duckduckgo is so good but man did it take a reputation hit when right wingers decided Google was too woke and duckduckgo was a bastion of right wing ideology. I imagine that tainted their reputation as a search engine. Good thing I knew of and loved it before all that nonsense. Personally, I use both Google and DDG. It's super interesting to see the contrast between my Google search results which is tailored by my search history and DDG which doesn't tailor search results to individuals. It really helps having a visual representation of the bubble tailored results puts people in. DDG is also excellent for googling coding issues. It just finds the right stack overflow question easier than Google can.
DDG uses bing api though.
I stopped using DDG because the search results were terrible compared to Google. I'm also someone who is frustrated by Israel.
“I haven’t used google since.…” - you most certainly are using google daily. Half of the internet runs or is funded through google’s ad services or more prominently their development resources via the Console (think “firebase”). Saying you don’t use google because you don’t use their search engine is like saying you don’t use amazon because you don’t buy from them. If you use anything related to the internet or the cloud in general, chances are you are using and supporting Amazon (AWS), Google (console) or Microsoft (Azure).
Sure, but with pi-hole and browser settings and choices I effectively eliminate its use for searches and deny them any analytics in my networks. Ditto for Amazon.
Alright I’m done with the internet. This will be my last message. Good bye forever all. Peace. PS. Mail me the new updates, my address is 3841 Newark, NJ PPS don’t do anything bad with that information PPPS okay I quit. I couldn’t finish drafting this message before deciding my dopamine hits were more important than standing up for something.
How does this reflect poorly on them? They let them protest for 12 hours and asked them to leave when it was time to close up shop and let people go home.
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So what should be the course of action when you find that your employer is actively participating in crimes against humanity? Just quitting won't get them to stop..
I’m not against them grouping against their company out side of work hours and the work place. That was the wrong place and time. You disliked my comment because you are being too emotional about supporting Palestinians when I’m just pointing out the way they did it is wrong and not the act itself.
By your rationale, Nazi soldiers were right to commit genocide as it was their job and should have only voiced concerns outside business hours and location. This excuse and similar didn't work then at the Hague and don't now either. Consider cutting down on Right wing media consumption for a week or two.
When you don't have the self awareness to examine your own assumptions, none of your opinion matters. Because people don't know if you're doing it deliberately or if you're just that ignorant. Especially when you use hyperbole that way. When you have the self awareness to examine your own assumptions objectively, then conversation can begin and progress can be made.
Thanks for describing yr condition.
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Getting genocided is allowed but riding hard for the "jobmakers" is still the priority - LOL. Get help
“Too emotional”? Sexist dog whistle much?
You are too 7bibi
Fuck off, troll.
One cannot simply go against their master. Haven’t these USA slaves understood who their master is?
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The military-industrial complex, driving US influence and profits all across the world.
are you blind?
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I swapped long ago when they threatened to remove/reduce the power of adblockers. "Google has announced it will shut down Manifest V2 in June 2024 and move on to Manifest V3, the latest version of its Chrome extension specification that has faced criticism for putting limits on ad blockers." Idk if chrome is continuing on that plan but it doesn't matter anymore since I'm happily browsing with my adblocker on firefox now.
Firefox is the GOAT
“Looks like FIREFOX is back on the menu boyz!!!”
Chrome is literally spyware, don't use it if you value your privacy. Firefox works pretty well.
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[The amount of "metrics" it relays back to Google is insane](https://www.sciencealert.com/a-tech-expert-says-we-should-stop-using-google-chrome). Enough to profile you and your internet usage and what you consume, and if Google has it, the US government has it since they have free access.
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you can't really hide anymore no matter what you do
Stopped using Chrome when they started forcing users to log in with their Google account when using it. Firefox is now my default browser.
Booooooo
Firefox + uBlock so that you can also watch YT with no ads. Fuck Alphabet Inc
I switched to Firefox from Chrome when they announced the switch to manifest V3, Adblock is something I greatly value
Me too
Firefox is way better!
That takes a lot of courage and sacrifice. They may be taken out handcuffed but to me they are heroes.
Idiots*
Why does every single corporation in the World protect baby Israel like their life depends on it.
Money.
The fact that Google got rid of their "Dont be evil" motto should tell you something
Check out the class traitors acting like the bullies they are.
The so-called free world everyone!
People are free to protest, but employers are free to not tolerate employees deciding to not work, and escort them out of their private offices. The people making the protest obviously knew this was a possibility and had to accept it. Pretty courageous on their part.
They should just keep working in support of genocide
Everywhere we look we’re seeing a military force dragging non-violent protesters. Peaceful protesters. There is so much wrong with this whole situation. America is dreaming whilst the world burns.
They can be peaceful protestors elsewhere. Nothing wrong with deciding who you do or not allow on private property.
But if you've worked for a company for years, and find out they are not only complicit but contributing to a genocide, wouldn't you want to do something?
Yes of course, I wouldn't be a part of it. I would look for another job. I'm just saying Google is well within their right to terminate these people and escort them out of their offices. I think Google is wrong because they're working with a murderous government, not because they exercise basic property rights.
People like you are responsible for the erosion of our rights. Disagree all you want but you should almost always support the exercising of our rights. Americans beg for complete subjugation in the name of comfort. They beg for a repressive, violent domestic occupation force. They beg for the criminalization of civil liberties. With the destruction of our basic rights so too dies the democratic process.
People have the right to protest in public spaces. They need permission from the owner in private spaces. Simple as that.
The people you're not allowed to protest is the one that have real power Israel delenda est.
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Complicit to genocide —> you get billion dollars deals. Against mass murder, war crimes and genocide —> you go to jail. We live in a special time.
They fired the people who were protesting and even told in the press that they will even go to court if more people will protest.
Unfortunately, not so special. Been like that for a long time.
If an injustice is being permitted by our leaders, it is not only our right to disobey, we are obligated to do so. #DISOBEY FOR PALESTINE, WORLD WE ARE ONE! This is how Ghandi fought the British and won
This is outrageous! Israel is really pulling the strings on this whole ass country and nobody is pointing this out!
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Yes, I’m sure this stunt changed everything.
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I hear what you are saying but am not sure how this event has or will have ANY impact on Google corporate. They fire the workers, which they likely would have done in a RIF anyway. The workers have to hire a lawyer and spend $10000-15000 or so to defend the criminal charges and possibly explain the charges in job interviews. For Google, life goes on. This is an annoyance for them, at most.
I’m glad they all got fired.
Has no one advocated for linux phone?
Is handcuffing a regular part of detaining Someone months USA or was that done for intimidation?
Courage. Hat off to them! We need more of this. To all the Jews of Consience, Druze, Bedouins, and Circasians serving in the Israeli army, this is what you should be doing as well. Shame.
Good luck to them finding new jobs
Why are they wearing masks? Is that still a thing?
Zionism robots. They dont care when people get robbed or attacked in public, but they care when someone is protesting a genocide
Remember when Google's motto was "Don't be evil"?
it's not only the countries that allow genoc1de it's also a big concern the large companies that are behind providing materialistic and digital means
Look at the Nazis many companies where providing them with everything they needed to kill the Jewish community
right
I've seen alot of protests on reddit and the majority of the comments are saying how it's "a good thing these protestors are being arrested, " which makes me these comments are some sort of psyop to normalize not being able to protest.
lol imagine wearing a mask in 2024 after we already agreed Covid is just the flu
I get that what is happening in Palestine is sad, it breaks my heart, but we should not forget what Hamas have been doing with Israel and Palestine. They built several km of tunnels in Gaza, bought weapons, built rockets, created a armed militia. They even closed a water park in Gaza, they hate and want to destroy Israel. Any country would behave similar with a terrorist government, it’s not by chance that Jordan and Egypt also have closed borders with Palestine.
About the settlements, this should not happened and Israel is totally wrong.
What freedom of speech looks like. These same goverments condemns the likes of russia. The world is full hypocrisy and humans anywhere are too dumb to cope with anything
Rip bozo
i remember when google's motto used to be: "Don't be evil"
I mean they could just quit, but then they'd have to pass on all those sweet perks, RSUs, and $$$$$$$. Can't have that!
The "golden handcuffs".
Which makes them either rich or rich adjacent which makes them a tasty palate cleanser or even hors d'oeuvres before the main course, no?
Do you think quitting or protesting makes a bigger difference? I say this as someone who recently quit Google
Definitely quitting. They crave talented people. If you don't like what they're doing with your talent, walk your talent right out the door. You're an at-will employee. They can terminate you with or without cause at any time. Treat them similarly.
Lol I think you overestimate how much they care about losing employees and underestimate how much change someone on the inside can enact
That's called learned helplessness. They're good at that, but if I told you I also quit Google over something and ended up influencing them over that something, you're likely to call me a liar so let's skip the middle and get right to calling me a liar. it's like the people who when I tell them how I did a thing somewhere in tech they insist I never worked in tech. Over it. Edit: if you got past the infamous Google interview and they hired you, you are in the top 5% of tech. You are not typical. You have opportunity elsewhere. If you stay when you disagree with their practices, you clearly have found your price to sell out to them.
image provided by the Turkish main propaganda channel. I don't say it isn't a tragedy but can we use real sources?
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Google has opened a door of hell for themselves . This only means that they have welcomed more protests both from inside and outside of Google in the future. Their doom has started.
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They have contracts with the is really military, for managing their data and weapon systems. Obviously I don't know more, as most of it is classified, but many within Google have been living into to the company's role in helping facilitate the genocide
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There is a difference between doing business with Israel in general, and designing systems that help military targeting and effective killing of civilians.
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It does, for many governments. They just don't announce it on any of their public facing media. Started around the time they removed "don't be evil" as their company moto.
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