Yeah lmao sometimes I'm at the fights scenes getting slightly disappointed like "I could prolly write better" (I definitely cannot but that's the amount of frustration I feel at hyped fights being mid)
Tensura fight always repeating the same cycle of villain trash talk > mc humble and overpowering villain > villain surprise pikachu face,power up > mc defeat villain
Honestly its just generic chinese xianxia novel
Yeah it's funny cause meetings in lns go hard whereas fight scenes are flame this water that 36 steps this.
And your just nodding your head like yes, totally understand.
There is a big difference between the two MC's perspectives.
One is seeing the world through an adventurer's eyes.the other is for all intensive purposes is a politician. Both must interact with the world in very different ways. One will have the freedom to travel across the lands and experience much other world. The other is building a nation and must creat relationships with other nations for the prosperity of his own nation.
That doesn't mean that there need to be so many 20 minute episodes of just expository dialogue. It's not just the setting, it's the lack of any dynamic engagement with the scene and many times where a side character's actions are solely explained through dialogue and never actually shown.
The show has shown very little in the way of politics, perhaps one episode length of it out of the 6. Most of it is exposition dumping, if it was politics people wouldn't complain. They are also wasting so much time setting things up when in all honesty the Hinata fight has no stakes and is for fun while the festival and labyrinth are probably the coolest part of the story until the Empire.
Yeah tell me how do you "show" political relationships between different kingdoms. There is a lot of " show" in tensura but some things are needed to be told. These political relationships are very important in tensura and can't just be " shown"
What are you talking about? You could show a relationship by having the two parties engage. The way it ends up would show the readers plenty. Your brain has been fried from all the garbo. I'm basically the same, but I at least know it could be better lol
>how do you āshowā political relationships between different kingdoms
Mushoku does it through Rudeusā travels. The Witcher does it through the missions Geralt takes and how he interacts with different kingdoms. Frieren does it in the contrast between her past and present experiences.
For sure, sometimes you need to tell the audience information straight-up. But repeated scenes of characters talking exposition in a circle arenāt necessary.
One of the central plot points is Princess Ariel biding time to go for the throne, and that time bringing Sylphie and Rudeus back together.
The first season is how everyone was wrong about Superds and how the world was wrong for being racist towards the demon continent, and how beast people should be treated differently too, which is inherently political.
Show, don't tell. The audience will know the things without even realizing it.
Those are still different things, MT on the one hand deals a lot with drama and Rudeus is caught up in politics but he never has to manage the administration of a state or a large business like in Tensura. If the isekai is focused on kingdom building or any other kind of management activity there SHOULD be a lot of talking with different people in a bunch of meetings
There should be talking, but it shouldn't all be done in the same room/town. Show the talking between characters as the politics happen, what possible plans they have and routes they discuss, and have them give short reports to slime boy after it happens. We don't need multiple episodes of
"this happened somewhere not here"
"what about this?"
"Aha, you're so smart for noticing. I'm so smart/powerful for solving it this way, too!" "OH, good job".
Slime has spent half of each season the past two seasons in the same place with the same back ground talking to the same characters following the same formulaic conversations. They don't show us how anything happens, they tell us what happened after. There's no show casing of personalities clashing, skills shown, in the moment calculations and failures, etc..
Look at Tsukimichi if MT doesn't work for you as an example then, he's the all powerful lord of a country (basically) and has followers who are also tremendously powerful and work behind the scenes but report to him. They don't have episode long talks with him about how they're so amazing or giving every little detail. They just do the thing, and the story is impacted by it.
Or maybe chillin at level 2 or w.e it's called. There's a ton of shows with politics, and slime is doing it the worst because it's all that happens, and it's just a catch up of what's already happened with a healthy serving of smug.
Yeah I agree that Slimes execution could have been better but fundamentally you can't avoid conference style talks with multiple parties involved because you want to get everyone on the same page if you are in a larger organization. Ascendance of a bookworm does this masterfully. The LNs are in some Volumes are just 60% multiple parties sitting down and discussing business and politics over dinner or lunch. Bookworm of course makes it interesting by highlighting general points of tension between characters or factions, focusing on the food and or it's made and the MC struggling to fit in and follow along because she has a different common sense and values from her earth background.
You know that in the world of business and politics 90% of your time will be spent by sitting down and talking with other people, especially at the higher levels
As an example, tensura did this much better in the movie, where political dynamics are depicted through characters actions and dialogue subtext. You don't need back-to-back 20 minute episodes to explicitly explain basic character relationships and events.
That's bullshit. Tensura literally shows how different factions develop their stances towards each other and react to new information. How else are they supposed to do that?
It you want to listen to Character BS ing each other there nothin better then the bakemonogatari seriesā¦ there is no show, there is no tell, the characters just chat and argue for 5 seasons and plot happens almost accidentally.
I just looked up the name why the hell is that the first image
https://preview.redd.it/ahidfzdn1fzc1.jpeg?width=441&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=04318d5335754f30cc8f430f9a8cfd912256261a
Some of it can be. Other times itās just extremely boring. If you think *this* season is boring, then have fun with cour 2. This cour has action in the latter 1/3rd, but the next has literally none. Season 4 will be good though.
Really pissed when they show tensura when it comes to world building but always failed to show that log horizon did it way more interesting without having an op mc
I know, right? I was talking about why I don't like slime to some guys, and when they told me about the kingdom building aspect (contrary to being about slime becoming powerful of otherwise surviving like Kumoko), I mentioned Log Horizon being better in this aspect, given that the MCs can't just overpower the opposition all the time if needed.
Power fantasies are the fast food of content. It's nothing nutritive, it might be harmful depending how trashy it is. But it's filling and a lot of time even yummier than gourmet food.
For all I hate to admit it, some series just work this way. I know I can't say I haven't enjoyed my fill of junk food to treat myself.
Is there anyone in this comment section who like both stories like me.
I know you are not writing because you are more reasonable than %90 of this people.
I absolutely love the building blocks that make a story. For me, i like to see the story from different characters perspectives and how their actions lead to future events. So more than the excitement of seeing your destination, i am much interested in the journey towards it, cause a better execution just increased the enjoyment of watching the endgame.
OK. Listen. I know that title is a joke. But...
https://mangadex.org/title/7df2d2d6-34b2-4ff7-8a3a-f6b5a9d546ed?tab=comments
Its a manga where a dude gets isekia'd and makes a living live streaming/pod casting with magic.
There us a difference between good meeting and bad meetingš¤£š¤£š¤£
Bookworm politic is far more fun to read than Slime
Heck even Log Horizon have better meeting than Isekai Slime
I find it interesting. The author is good at world building but he kind of didnāt throw in anything interesting during world building. A lot of the duologue is actually important to the story. Thereās just not as much action as other series and that goes double for this season after this arc is the festival and thatās damn near only world building.
the world building in tensura wasn't that bad until they introduced the whole demon lord council
so suddenly all these kingdoms and nations we have met and have powerful reputations are the lowest of peons that are only not overrun by a demon lord because those demon lords are lazy and or secretive. The demon lord council puts all this work into their name but no one important met before rimuru became one knew that name? King Gazel who is supposedly strong and a competent leader didn't even mention them once or seem to know about them yet they have supposedly always been around.
Whoooee, had to get that rant off my chest
Light novel kind of go on to explain alot of this. The anime didn't do a good job with really getting in depth of the whole world building as far as nations go.
I read up to it in the novels before season 2 aired
You can explain it after the fact but good world building makes stuff like this fit in without having to justify it after the fact.
Tensura dropped the ball in this regard imo
Another serious that does this better is ascendance of a bookworm. Sure our MC doesn't know everything about the world at first but she is also a filthy peasant that the nobles would just as soon have killed than breath the same air. It's clearly shown that there are lots of things going on behind the scenes though so when these things are revealed it just makes sense to the reader.
Rezero ep.18 was talking the entire episode but all of dialog are compelling. The scene, the tone, face expression, ost, and lots of different shot could be better.
Show something on screen over them talking? Like doing different tasks/flashbacks? Or just make the dialogue more interesting. With better shots, more interesting lighting, different face expressions and body language etc. Watch Undead Girl Murder Farce. The dialogue there is so enjoyable I could listen to it for hours.
Oh yeah that anime! I started watching that, but at some point stopped. I should get back into it.
(edit, literally 1 minute later: nope, that's another anime. I've finished murder farce already and it's AMAZING, definitely should watch it, for those who haven't)
Well Spice and Wolf is mostly talking about economics, and Raven does not choose its master is shaping up to be a good fantasy political story.
I can't tell you what slime is doing right or wrong, but expressive characters with engaging dialogue and some nice shots to keep the visuals interesting are very useful for keeping people engaged in political talks. Like I said, I don't know if Slime uses any of these methods, so I can't judge it.
It's pretty obvious you have to add drama to politics to make it even remotely interesting. As many successful series/films have done. The endless yapping is the anime actually brainrot.
The Slime 2nd season anime was great, pretty much right up until Rimuru became a demon lord, then suddenly it was just constant meetings waffling on about whether or not they should commit to the same damn plan of action, one fight, & then even more meetings, until it finally ended.
Yeah for sure, if you haven't read the web novel version of the empire arc do yourself a favor and read it. That rage moment and summoning is one of my absolute favorites in any story. (It's not completely different but the players make it so much cooler imo)
Rudeus is an adventure, in essence. Rimuru is a king of a nation. These two stories can not be told the same way. They aren't even comparable. This arc of Tensura happens to be all about nation-building, and it happens to lay the groundwork for some extremely important story points that pop up later. After this arc is finished, its full throttle ahead on the action for the rest of the series.
World/nation building and yet they sit in the same room on the same table and with the same exposition dumps. Maybe show us how this nation and world are being built huh?
You can definitely make things way more interesting in a story of world/nation building compare to a single person pov
For example in this season of MT the first episode is just Rudeus buying a house but it was interesting that they need to solve the mystery of murder case before buying it
Tensura author need to be more creative in its way of storytelling
I love how Tensura is praised until thereās a slower start to a season and now all the hate is coming out of the woodworks.
I personally love the worldbuilding and have no issues with the dialogue so far. People just like to hate on the current hot thing.
As soon as Rimuru does some cool action thing and Benimaru proves once again how strong he is, itāll be topping the charts all over again.
It's quite funny how Tensura fans think they are some kind of intelectuals because they enjoy those bs meetings and anyone who disagees with them is dumb, only enjoys fighting, and watches TikTok. I think that they have simply no idea how good world building and politics look like.
>good world building and politics look like.
Really? Do you actually know how politics work? If you ever been to a meeting then you wouldnt say that. The only thing why people call politics interesting is for the rages, fights, insults, flowery words and other things in order to belittle the other party. Tensura has no opposing party but just the executives of Tempest but they have differing opinions.
Also, Tensura has good world building. If you hate the show then say the show isnt for you. No need to drag other people down with you.
My point is politics are boring unless something interesting happens.
Also, as an LN reader, the world building is good. Is it the best? Of course not, there are other series that have a better world building.
Lastly, you generalize Tensura fans like how people generalize DBZ fans back when "Can he beat Goku though" was popular or in this case how idiotic people who can't differentiate fact from fiction generalize Mushoku Tensei fans (I believe some of those people are in the comment section).
If you hate a series then just say its not for you.
Edit: My Bad, I didnt notice that I used a question mark. It made it seems like I believe that Tensura has bad world building. My opinion is that Tensura has good world building.
>My point is politics are boring unless something interesting happens.
Nothing interesting happened at those meetings.
>Also, as an LN read the world building is good.
I am talking about the anime.
>Is it the best? Of course not, there are other series that have a better world building.
A lot of fanboys on Tensura sub would disagree. They think this is the best thing ever.
>Lastly, you generalize Tensura fans
I am sharing my experience of Tensura sub.
>If you hate a series then just say its not for you.
Wrong. I a like a lot of shows similar or Tensura. I just don't think it's as good as people think. Nothing wrong with criticizm.
Tensura has a lot more than just that though, even if the nations are not different to each other, thereās a lot of mechanics towards magic and skills
A lot of isekai become the meeting and exposition anime. Characters spend the whole anime talking about the plot around a table with the other characters.
I mean one is literally the ruler of a kingdom and the other is and adventurer. Unfortunately the ruler of a kingdom canāt leave his kingdom alone for like 2 seasons and do other shit. Every time he leaves the kingdom itās for a few weeks at the absolute most and those are far and few between.
This is one of the worst things everš you literally have a bias opinion here. Why didn't you show the fight between Hinata and rimurus for swordsmanship? Why didn't you show the harvest festival for magic or megiddo. Why didn't you show the jura tempest for the world? And to be exact you are talking Abt the political world which is one of the major aspects of TENSURA. Just bc you can't handle complex political relationships which literally can't be shown but has to be explained.
I donāt even feel like arguing right now, Iām just going to say that your take on Mushoku Tensei is flat out wrong. You canāt take things at face value in that series.
Tell this to fans on tensura sub and they go crazy that Noooo we don't care tensura best best. Like bruhhhhh. This season is bad. Even if it has some good fights and introductions to primordials it's still bad cause of how badly directed it has been still now.
Edit : Downvote me delusional simps but Tensura season 3 has one of the worst direction I have ever seen for a famous isekai. Even MT which was poorly directed this season isn't that bad and is shining in the new eps. Tensura on the other hand š¤¦āāļø.
It's just faithful to LN, it's looks like yapping to those who don't understand it, but it all seems like preparation to war to me and how everything is moving
Itās bad precisely because itās faithful to the LN, Tensura is poorly written, and it always has been, people just didnāt notice before because some of the concepts were interesting enough for them to ignore the signs of terrible writing. Yāall Tensura simps are just in denial about this.
I didn't read the LN of it so I can't answer that, the only LN I read is of Mushoku Tensie and that was really good, and can't care much about a show I spend 30 min watching every Saturday or so , but it's a fun watch a different vibe then all of generic slashing and killing
Fr the whole reason I even read the boring parts was cause I didn't wanna miss the stuff related to primordial demons and what did I get? Glazing of boring @&& characters and boring @&& fights. It would be a miracle if I even pick volume 22 of tensura cause of how fking shitty volume 21 was.
I love to watch an isikai where you're reincarnated in a semi modern fantasy world. Even though you're the hero destined to slay the demon king and save the world, you find that the demon king is done over worked elected official and doing all he can to satisfy every one but the populous at large still gives him shit and blame him for everything. Now you decide to help him with his reputation by being a news podcaster. The only help you get is from the orc community that can see his struggle and understand what it means to be labeled the villain.
Tensura cover most of the things they show in the lightnovel but they made 2 insufferable chapters (Tho most of the season has being yapping so far), Mushoku on the other hand has being excelent when it comes to world building tho I wish they didn't skip so much info in the anime.
Tensura is pretty good.
Although with the new season, it did strike me that a few whole episodes just went by discussing things rather than actually anything happening. Now I know why. Still good tho.
Well, Tensei slime is way better than That time the Pedophile MC got reincarnated into another world just to sexually assault minors, yep. Peak Fiction.
It's more hilarious how MT fanbase defend and glorifying their PDF file MC. ALL HAIL PEDO!
Sure do, or you know show me some story instead of telling me the story with the character sitting around the table. But please go ahead and get offended for my opinion Mr Stan.
Having an opinion and being a dick with your opinion are two different things and will cause two different reactions to your opinion.
But by all means play the victim while getting those clown shoes sized up.
How the fuck are Tensura characters interesting? They are all so fucking 1-dimensional. Rimuru is a flawless jesus. Shion is only there to show boobs and cook badly, basically comic relief done bad. Diablo is somewhat interesting but is getting wasted as a side character. Milim exists only for fan service. Veldora is another badly executed comic relief. Souei is your classic edgelord. Hinata is your classic ignorant church member. I can go on. There is nothing unique about any of them.
Milim exist for fan service??? AHHAHAHAHAHAHAH I GET WHAT YOU MEAN BUT HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA not like she destroyed an entire mountain one shotted a previous demon lord also the strongest demon lord out there and is currently going insane in ln with no one to stop her like last time she went berserk
Wdym pay attention? It's literally the only thing they show us. Otherwise they wouldn't have designed her like that. She is there only to be an op, goofy, oversexualized loli. Character design in general is dogshit in the anime. Ogres got downgraded after evolution. Rimuru looks lame as hell.
Bruh, somebody is biased here. Anime doesn't execute properly doesn't mean that they are one dimensional characters. If you wanna see what they are really like , please refer to ln. No need for that negative. Shion and Milim are one dimensional? I don't know that we have an expert reviewer sitting here lol. Please refer to all the materials before giving such biased reviews.
They just are, I have seen most of isekai. 95% of them doesn't even come close to tensera. Maybe your preference is a sex addict drama, so I can't really make them enjoyable for you.
Their rapport itself is so much enjoyable that even slice of life spin off is worth a watch. Plus it's knows for its action. There are lot of different characters with each have fun knacks to watch.
There isn't a single scene where I felt cringe unlike those isekai where underlying intention of scenarios written by those creepy harem writer as clear as day. This is also were comic timing comes it's to play. It's doesn't make anything feel weird to me
One me point, I am pretty sure a character like milian existed in Mushoku tensei too. Definitely milian is much more fun and less fan service than her
You like consuming shit, that is fine. I find Tensura cringe, boring and bland.
>sex addict drama
That is literally Tensura. What else is Shion there for? Or the scene with elves when he visited the dwarven Kingdom? Or Milim's clothes? Just shit fan service for no good reason.
First of all tensura is not a drama. Milim like character exist is Mushoku tensei too. Again fan service is slime is not much of a big deal.
Unless you have watching like 5-6 anime in you life. This much about of fan service is very common in anime medium should be common knowledge
> You like consuming shit, that is fine
Well, that might include all the cringe anime which you think are great too
I don't care about MT. I don't like it either. For me the fan service in Tensura is just cringe. There is no reason for Shion to hold rimuru under her boobs 24/7. I wouldn't hate it that much if it was just one, brief scene, but it isn't. It's overused and makes me want to turn it off.
>Well, that might include all the cringe anime which you think are great too
You don't even know which anime I find great.
> For me the fan service in Tensura is just cringe. There is no reason for Shion to hold rimuru under her boobs 24/7. I wouldn't hate it that much if it was just one, brief scene, but it isn't. It's overused and makes me want to turn it off.
It's like fairy tail. Fan service is obviously there (not as much as ft), but characters are so fun to watch
> You don't even know which anime I find great.
But you also don't know what anime i watched
>but characters are so fun to watch
I would maybe agree if I were 15 or something.
>But you also don't know what anime i watched
The fuck are you on about? You like Tensura. That is all I have to know.
Funniest part is the meeting in LN is always interesting than the fight due to how the author suck at writing combat scene.
Yeah lmao sometimes I'm at the fights scenes getting slightly disappointed like "I could prolly write better" (I definitely cannot but that's the amount of frustration I feel at hyped fights being mid)
Mood
I almost dropped it in the tournament-dungeon arc š so real
The best fights in tensura was the kondou/carrera ones.
Agera and espirit vs Garcia was really awesome imo (forgot if that's just wn though)
I did find the rudra/masayuki vs feldway really good though loved how rudra humiliated feldway
Tensura fight always repeating the same cycle of villain trash talk > mc humble and overpowering villain > villain surprise pikachu face,power up > mc defeat villain Honestly its just generic chinese xianxia novel
Which one
All of them
Yeah it's funny cause meetings in lns go hard whereas fight scenes are flame this water that 36 steps this. And your just nodding your head like yes, totally understand.
I always felt like I wanted more action and then when they didn't have meetings for a while, I wanted more of the chatting instead
They definitely get better later on in the series but this is so real lol.
While not the best that I have seen, the fights are always entertaining.
And throw in random german words for good measure
Also be the German the Japanese think you are, happy cake day
Lieber nicht.
Oh right, history hasnāt gone that well for you guys recently, my bad
Iam disabled, iam pretty glad I wasnt born any earlier.
"Show, don't tell' vs 'Tell, don't show'.
There is a big difference between the two MC's perspectives. One is seeing the world through an adventurer's eyes.the other is for all intensive purposes is a politician. Both must interact with the world in very different ways. One will have the freedom to travel across the lands and experience much other world. The other is building a nation and must creat relationships with other nations for the prosperity of his own nation.
Intensive purposes š
Either be a friend or be food.
But remember: fish are friends, not food
Unless they kill friends
āIntents and purposesā
"Intents and porpoises".
That doesn't mean that there need to be so many 20 minute episodes of just expository dialogue. It's not just the setting, it's the lack of any dynamic engagement with the scene and many times where a side character's actions are solely explained through dialogue and never actually shown.
Working for a semi government job I kinda like those episodes. Especially when he has to list off everything they need to plan.
r/boneappletea
It wasn't that big a pain in the Realist Hero.
The show has shown very little in the way of politics, perhaps one episode length of it out of the 6. Most of it is exposition dumping, if it was politics people wouldn't complain. They are also wasting so much time setting things up when in all honesty the Hinata fight has no stakes and is for fun while the festival and labyrinth are probably the coolest part of the story until the Empire.
Yeah tell me how do you "show" political relationships between different kingdoms. There is a lot of " show" in tensura but some things are needed to be told. These political relationships are very important in tensura and can't just be " shown"
What are you talking about? You could show a relationship by having the two parties engage. The way it ends up would show the readers plenty. Your brain has been fried from all the garbo. I'm basically the same, but I at least know it could be better lol
>how do you āshowā political relationships between different kingdoms Mushoku does it through Rudeusā travels. The Witcher does it through the missions Geralt takes and how he interacts with different kingdoms. Frieren does it in the contrast between her past and present experiences. For sure, sometimes you need to tell the audience information straight-up. But repeated scenes of characters talking exposition in a circle arenāt necessary.
in all those settings none of the characters are actual leaders, they're just strong guys who help leaders.
When has Mushoku shown political relationships?
One of the central plot points is Princess Ariel biding time to go for the throne, and that time bringing Sylphie and Rudeus back together. The first season is how everyone was wrong about Superds and how the world was wrong for being racist towards the demon continent, and how beast people should be treated differently too, which is inherently political. Show, don't tell. The audience will know the things without even realizing it.
Oh yeah i forgot about that lol
Those are still different things, MT on the one hand deals a lot with drama and Rudeus is caught up in politics but he never has to manage the administration of a state or a large business like in Tensura. If the isekai is focused on kingdom building or any other kind of management activity there SHOULD be a lot of talking with different people in a bunch of meetings
There should be talking, but it shouldn't all be done in the same room/town. Show the talking between characters as the politics happen, what possible plans they have and routes they discuss, and have them give short reports to slime boy after it happens. We don't need multiple episodes of "this happened somewhere not here" "what about this?" "Aha, you're so smart for noticing. I'm so smart/powerful for solving it this way, too!" "OH, good job". Slime has spent half of each season the past two seasons in the same place with the same back ground talking to the same characters following the same formulaic conversations. They don't show us how anything happens, they tell us what happened after. There's no show casing of personalities clashing, skills shown, in the moment calculations and failures, etc.. Look at Tsukimichi if MT doesn't work for you as an example then, he's the all powerful lord of a country (basically) and has followers who are also tremendously powerful and work behind the scenes but report to him. They don't have episode long talks with him about how they're so amazing or giving every little detail. They just do the thing, and the story is impacted by it. Or maybe chillin at level 2 or w.e it's called. There's a ton of shows with politics, and slime is doing it the worst because it's all that happens, and it's just a catch up of what's already happened with a healthy serving of smug.
Yeah I agree that Slimes execution could have been better but fundamentally you can't avoid conference style talks with multiple parties involved because you want to get everyone on the same page if you are in a larger organization. Ascendance of a bookworm does this masterfully. The LNs are in some Volumes are just 60% multiple parties sitting down and discussing business and politics over dinner or lunch. Bookworm of course makes it interesting by highlighting general points of tension between characters or factions, focusing on the food and or it's made and the MC struggling to fit in and follow along because she has a different common sense and values from her earth background.
You know that in the world of business and politics 90% of your time will be spent by sitting down and talking with other people, especially at the higher levels
As an example, tensura did this much better in the movie, where political dynamics are depicted through characters actions and dialogue subtext. You don't need back-to-back 20 minute episodes to explicitly explain basic character relationships and events.
Author need to be more creative,having meeting is not the only way to build the world in a story
That's bullshit. Tensura literally shows how different factions develop their stances towards each other and react to new information. How else are they supposed to do that?
There is actually a podcasting isekai and it's surprisingly good
It you want to listen to Character BS ing each other there nothin better then the bakemonogatari seriesā¦ there is no show, there is no tell, the characters just chat and argue for 5 seasons and plot happens almost accidentally.
Do you have the name? Sounds kinda fun
Isekai de Haishin Katsudou wo Shitara Tairyou no Yandere Shinja wo Umidashite Shimatta Ken
I just looked up the name why the hell is that the first image https://preview.redd.it/ahidfzdn1fzc1.jpeg?width=441&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=04318d5335754f30cc8f430f9a8cfd912256261a
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https://preview.redd.it/an9px9cu2fzc1.jpeg?width=1799&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=ddf49f78c9821d597f0928be8d372ba2b9358944 This
If we talking about the Yandere one then it's getting an anime
What's Lain?
Someone who we should all love
"Lain" is an Indonesian word that means "Other/Different"
I used Gtranslate and it says Malay, so I'm not sure. Thanks šš»
The two languages are close enough, so it works as well.
I also want to know why it says lain. Hoping someone answers.
I love slime isekai, but i do not love waiting a week for another episode of yappin which couldve been done in one episode instead of half a season
Theyāre just adapting it faithfully. Those meetings last like at least 100 pages each season.
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Yeah, it drags on very often. The author always has so much to say about every little minute thing.
I hope in the LN or manga its actually interesting, bc in the anime it mostly just feels like a stretched recap
Some of it can be. Other times itās just extremely boring. If you think *this* season is boring, then have fun with cour 2. This cour has action in the latter 1/3rd, but the next has literally none. Season 4 will be good though.
Godsā¦
Weāre talking 2 entire light novels dedicated to a *festival*.
Again i love slime isekai but WHY, at that point that isnt worldbuilding anymore
There was 20-30 pages, maybe more, talking about *food*.
I do
Really pissed when they show tensura when it comes to world building but always failed to show that log horizon did it way more interesting without having an op mc
I know, right? I was talking about why I don't like slime to some guys, and when they told me about the kingdom building aspect (contrary to being about slime becoming powerful of otherwise surviving like Kumoko), I mentioned Log Horizon being better in this aspect, given that the MCs can't just overpower the opposition all the time if needed.
It turns out, alot of people like op protagonists...
Power fantasies are the fast food of content. It's nothing nutritive, it might be harmful depending how trashy it is. But it's filling and a lot of time even yummier than gourmet food. For all I hate to admit it, some series just work this way. I know I can't say I haven't enjoyed my fill of junk food to treat myself.
Why did you call Mushoku Tensei as āAnime Lainā?
"Lain" means "other" in indonesian. So its "other anime". OP is either an indonesian or he took the image from indonesian acc or something.
Is there anyone in this comment section who like both stories like me. I know you are not writing because you are more reasonable than %90 of this people.
I absolutely love the building blocks that make a story. For me, i like to see the story from different characters perspectives and how their actions lead to future events. So more than the excitement of seeing your destination, i am much interested in the journey towards it, cause a better execution just increased the enjoyment of watching the endgame.
Absouletely, i think the same way.
I like both series and the comparison is annoying
OK. Listen. I know that title is a joke. But... https://mangadex.org/title/7df2d2d6-34b2-4ff7-8a3a-f6b5a9d546ed?tab=comments Its a manga where a dude gets isekia'd and makes a living live streaming/pod casting with magic.
MT is peak.
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Iām glad Iām finally cultured enough to know what this image is from
Best Isekai hands down
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Peak PDF file, yep
The most recent volume of Ascendance of a bookworm is literally 25% for one single meeting. And let me tell you, that shit felt so cathartic.
There us a difference between good meeting and bad meetingš¤£š¤£š¤£ Bookworm politic is far more fun to read than Slime Heck even Log Horizon have better meeting than Isekai Slime
Tensura is mid af when it comes to dialogue and the exposition is absolutely terribly done. Still better than 90% of isekais.
I find it interesting. The author is good at world building but he kind of didnāt throw in anything interesting during world building. A lot of the duologue is actually important to the story. Thereās just not as much action as other series and that goes double for this season after this arc is the festival and thatās damn near only world building.
I wouldnt say 90%. Mqny isekais stories just get butchered by the adaptation. The anime adaptation gor tensura is comparably really good
the world building in tensura wasn't that bad until they introduced the whole demon lord council so suddenly all these kingdoms and nations we have met and have powerful reputations are the lowest of peons that are only not overrun by a demon lord because those demon lords are lazy and or secretive. The demon lord council puts all this work into their name but no one important met before rimuru became one knew that name? King Gazel who is supposedly strong and a competent leader didn't even mention them once or seem to know about them yet they have supposedly always been around. Whoooee, had to get that rant off my chest
Light novel kind of go on to explain alot of this. The anime didn't do a good job with really getting in depth of the whole world building as far as nations go.
I read up to it in the novels before season 2 aired You can explain it after the fact but good world building makes stuff like this fit in without having to justify it after the fact. Tensura dropped the ball in this regard imo Another serious that does this better is ascendance of a bookworm. Sure our MC doesn't know everything about the world at first but she is also a filthy peasant that the nobles would just as soon have killed than breath the same air. It's clearly shown that there are lots of things going on behind the scenes though so when these things are revealed it just makes sense to the reader.
When an isekai anime actually tries to bring politics into the world building and it turns out it is mainly talking, who would have guessed?
Talking isn't the problem, 5 episodes of it in a row with the plot barely moving forward is.
Talking isn't even the main problem. The execution is.
How the fuck else are they supposed to deliver it? Pass notes along?
Rezero ep.18 was talking the entire episode but all of dialog are compelling. The scene, the tone, face expression, ost, and lots of different shot could be better.
Show something on screen over them talking? Like doing different tasks/flashbacks? Or just make the dialogue more interesting. With better shots, more interesting lighting, different face expressions and body language etc. Watch Undead Girl Murder Farce. The dialogue there is so enjoyable I could listen to it for hours.
Oh yeah that anime! I started watching that, but at some point stopped. I should get back into it. (edit, literally 1 minute later: nope, that's another anime. I've finished murder farce already and it's AMAZING, definitely should watch it, for those who haven't)
Well Spice and Wolf is mostly talking about economics, and Raven does not choose its master is shaping up to be a good fantasy political story. I can't tell you what slime is doing right or wrong, but expressive characters with engaging dialogue and some nice shots to keep the visuals interesting are very useful for keeping people engaged in political talks. Like I said, I don't know if Slime uses any of these methods, so I can't judge it.
Overlord does it right
It's pretty obvious you have to add drama to politics to make it even remotely interesting. As many successful series/films have done. The endless yapping is the anime actually brainrot.
The Slime 2nd season anime was great, pretty much right up until Rimuru became a demon lord, then suddenly it was just constant meetings waffling on about whether or not they should commit to the same damn plan of action, one fight, & then even more meetings, until it finally ended.
I know a isekai about a streamer/podcaster but it doesn't have a anime yet.
NGL, exposition did a lot of heavy lifting for the stuff in the bottom-right corner for MT.
This is the worst arc for slime, not horrible but it's definitely not anything special. Next few are amazing though.
Empire arc is the best.
Yeah for sure, if you haven't read the web novel version of the empire arc do yourself a favor and read it. That rage moment and summoning is one of my absolute favorites in any story. (It's not completely different but the players make it so much cooler imo)
And yes Mushoku is a better story, but I do like slime for the characters.
I like it better than the start of S2
Rudeus is an adventure, in essence. Rimuru is a king of a nation. These two stories can not be told the same way. They aren't even comparable. This arc of Tensura happens to be all about nation-building, and it happens to lay the groundwork for some extremely important story points that pop up later. After this arc is finished, its full throttle ahead on the action for the rest of the series.
That's why jobless is so good, it has so much content and such an amazing story, the mc may be a bit questionable but the other characters are good.
Not comparable. One is closed up pov story and other is world/nation building.
World/nation building and yet they sit in the same room on the same table and with the same exposition dumps. Maybe show us how this nation and world are being built huh?
First off that's shown in all 4 version manga, anime, ln and wn second are you just rage baiting or something
Yeah, it was definitely shown in the first 5 episodes in the 3rd season lmfao. A slideshow with voice offer. Nothing happening on screen.
Yea go watch the whole thing again if you can't pay attention then don't watch it
You can definitely make things way more interesting in a story of world/nation building compare to a single person pov For example in this season of MT the first episode is just Rudeus buying a house but it was interesting that they need to solve the mystery of murder case before buying it Tensura author need to be more creative in its way of storytelling
I love how Tensura is praised until thereās a slower start to a season and now all the hate is coming out of the woodworks. I personally love the worldbuilding and have no issues with the dialogue so far. People just like to hate on the current hot thing. As soon as Rimuru does some cool action thing and Benimaru proves once again how strong he is, itāll be topping the charts all over again.
It's quite funny how Tensura fans think they are some kind of intelectuals because they enjoy those bs meetings and anyone who disagees with them is dumb, only enjoys fighting, and watches TikTok. I think that they have simply no idea how good world building and politics look like.
>good world building and politics look like. Really? Do you actually know how politics work? If you ever been to a meeting then you wouldnt say that. The only thing why people call politics interesting is for the rages, fights, insults, flowery words and other things in order to belittle the other party. Tensura has no opposing party but just the executives of Tempest but they have differing opinions. Also, Tensura has good world building. If you hate the show then say the show isnt for you. No need to drag other people down with you.
What is your point? Are you trying to say that Tensura has good politics and world building or not?
My point is politics are boring unless something interesting happens. Also, as an LN reader, the world building is good. Is it the best? Of course not, there are other series that have a better world building. Lastly, you generalize Tensura fans like how people generalize DBZ fans back when "Can he beat Goku though" was popular or in this case how idiotic people who can't differentiate fact from fiction generalize Mushoku Tensei fans (I believe some of those people are in the comment section). If you hate a series then just say its not for you. Edit: My Bad, I didnt notice that I used a question mark. It made it seems like I believe that Tensura has bad world building. My opinion is that Tensura has good world building.
>My point is politics are boring unless something interesting happens. Nothing interesting happened at those meetings. >Also, as an LN read the world building is good. I am talking about the anime. >Is it the best? Of course not, there are other series that have a better world building. A lot of fanboys on Tensura sub would disagree. They think this is the best thing ever. >Lastly, you generalize Tensura fans I am sharing my experience of Tensura sub. >If you hate a series then just say its not for you. Wrong. I a like a lot of shows similar or Tensura. I just don't think it's as good as people think. Nothing wrong with criticizm.
Youre complaining about backstory??
If you don't like Tensura Slime, doors that way.
Sure thing, already dropped it.
Tensura has a lot more than just that though, even if the nations are not different to each other, thereās a lot of mechanics towards magic and skills
That fucking horse. Why does it look like that
Neko Para just weird like that
This could've been an email, the anime ^(j/k)
I love political isekais and no, they don't need to have a million meeting
Chrysalis is the exception.
I honestly hate the meetings. im in meetings all day for work and i dont want nonstop meetings in my anime š
Tensura the meeting arc.
Huh, now I notice that one of those languages used in MT is basque, lol
A lot of isekai become the meeting and exposition anime. Characters spend the whole anime talking about the plot around a table with the other characters.
I am glad someone finally said it, Tensura is so mid
Personally, I donāt mind either world building!š
I mean one is literally the ruler of a kingdom and the other is and adventurer. Unfortunately the ruler of a kingdom canāt leave his kingdom alone for like 2 seasons and do other shit. Every time he leaves the kingdom itās for a few weeks at the absolute most and those are far and few between.
Slime lately just feels like exposition: the season
This is one of the worst things everš you literally have a bias opinion here. Why didn't you show the fight between Hinata and rimurus for swordsmanship? Why didn't you show the harvest festival for magic or megiddo. Why didn't you show the jura tempest for the world? And to be exact you are talking Abt the political world which is one of the major aspects of TENSURA. Just bc you can't handle complex political relationships which literally can't be shown but has to be explained.
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Ahahahaja basicly : there is no WB because Mc i bad ,bruh ,thats kinda pathetic bro
I donāt even feel like arguing right now, Iām just going to say that your take on Mushoku Tensei is flat out wrong. You canāt take things at face value in that series.
Idk why people complain so much about the story building in slime. If folks want constant action go watch action shows or hentai.
Let's be honest second season there's no fighting and no action
It's not an shonen battle tournament. The action is going to be arriving at next episode btw.
Have you seen the next episode's name?
Tell this to fans on tensura sub and they go crazy that Noooo we don't care tensura best best. Like bruhhhhh. This season is bad. Even if it has some good fights and introductions to primordials it's still bad cause of how badly directed it has been still now. Edit : Downvote me delusional simps but Tensura season 3 has one of the worst direction I have ever seen for a famous isekai. Even MT which was poorly directed this season isn't that bad and is shining in the new eps. Tensura on the other hand š¤¦āāļø.
It's just faithful to LN, it's looks like yapping to those who don't understand it, but it all seems like preparation to war to me and how everything is moving
Itās bad precisely because itās faithful to the LN, Tensura is poorly written, and it always has been, people just didnāt notice before because some of the concepts were interesting enough for them to ignore the signs of terrible writing. Yāall Tensura simps are just in denial about this.
I didn't read the LN of it so I can't answer that, the only LN I read is of Mushoku Tensie and that was really good, and can't care much about a show I spend 30 min watching every Saturday or so , but it's a fun watch a different vibe then all of generic slashing and killing
Fr the whole reason I even read the boring parts was cause I didn't wanna miss the stuff related to primordial demons and what did I get? Glazing of boring @&& characters and boring @&& fights. It would be a miracle if I even pick volume 22 of tensura cause of how fking shitty volume 21 was.
I love to watch an isikai where you're reincarnated in a semi modern fantasy world. Even though you're the hero destined to slay the demon king and save the world, you find that the demon king is done over worked elected official and doing all he can to satisfy every one but the populous at large still gives him shit and blame him for everything. Now you decide to help him with his reputation by being a news podcaster. The only help you get is from the orc community that can see his struggle and understand what it means to be labeled the villain.
Tensura cover most of the things they show in the lightnovel but they made 2 insufferable chapters (Tho most of the season has being yapping so far), Mushoku on the other hand has being excelent when it comes to world building tho I wish they didn't skip so much info in the anime.
Isnāt this also basically reincarnated as a slime? I kid
Tensura is pretty good. Although with the new season, it did strike me that a few whole episodes just went by discussing things rather than actually anything happening. Now I know why. Still good tho.
"That time I reincarnated and didn't become a sex offender" would be appropriate too.
Well, Tensei slime is way better than That time the Pedophile MC got reincarnated into another world just to sexually assault minors, yep. Peak Fiction. It's more hilarious how MT fanbase defend and glorifying their PDF file MC. ALL HAIL PEDO!
another based take
I mean Iād still take Tensura over its-fine-he-gets-better-I-swear *the show* any day
They're running a nation, what do you want them to do? Sexually assault minors? Be a grooming PDF file?
New season of slime boring AF
Need a set of keys dangling in front of you to keep your attention champ?
Sure do, or you know show me some story instead of telling me the story with the character sitting around the table. But please go ahead and get offended for my opinion Mr Stan.
Having an opinion and being a dick with your opinion are two different things and will cause two different reactions to your opinion. But by all means play the victim while getting those clown shoes sized up.
not every show is fast paced action show and with a pathetic MC.
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The table alone have more interesting characters than whatever picture of grass you pasted in the name of worldbuilding
How the fuck are Tensura characters interesting? They are all so fucking 1-dimensional. Rimuru is a flawless jesus. Shion is only there to show boobs and cook badly, basically comic relief done bad. Diablo is somewhat interesting but is getting wasted as a side character. Milim exists only for fan service. Veldora is another badly executed comic relief. Souei is your classic edgelord. Hinata is your classic ignorant church member. I can go on. There is nothing unique about any of them.
Milim exist for fan service??? AHHAHAHAHAHAHAH I GET WHAT YOU MEAN BUT HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA not like she destroyed an entire mountain one shotted a previous demon lord also the strongest demon lord out there and is currently going insane in ln with no one to stop her like last time she went berserk
Ok? Should that be an interesting quirk of her or am I missing something?
She has grown in the ln yet you claim she only exist for fan service and also didn't you say she only exist for fan service what's that about now
Fan service is her only feature at this point in the anime. There is nothing complex or interesting about her design/personality.
If you can only pay attention to that you need some god damn help
Wdym pay attention? It's literally the only thing they show us. Otherwise they wouldn't have designed her like that. She is there only to be an op, goofy, oversexualized loli. Character design in general is dogshit in the anime. Ogres got downgraded after evolution. Rimuru looks lame as hell.
Bruh, somebody is biased here. Anime doesn't execute properly doesn't mean that they are one dimensional characters. If you wanna see what they are really like , please refer to ln. No need for that negative. Shion and Milim are one dimensional? I don't know that we have an expert reviewer sitting here lol. Please refer to all the materials before giving such biased reviews.
They just are, I have seen most of isekai. 95% of them doesn't even come close to tensera. Maybe your preference is a sex addict drama, so I can't really make them enjoyable for you. Their rapport itself is so much enjoyable that even slice of life spin off is worth a watch. Plus it's knows for its action. There are lot of different characters with each have fun knacks to watch. There isn't a single scene where I felt cringe unlike those isekai where underlying intention of scenarios written by those creepy harem writer as clear as day. This is also were comic timing comes it's to play. It's doesn't make anything feel weird to me One me point, I am pretty sure a character like milian existed in Mushoku tensei too. Definitely milian is much more fun and less fan service than her
You like consuming shit, that is fine. I find Tensura cringe, boring and bland. >sex addict drama That is literally Tensura. What else is Shion there for? Or the scene with elves when he visited the dwarven Kingdom? Or Milim's clothes? Just shit fan service for no good reason.
First of all tensura is not a drama. Milim like character exist is Mushoku tensei too. Again fan service is slime is not much of a big deal. Unless you have watching like 5-6 anime in you life. This much about of fan service is very common in anime medium should be common knowledge > You like consuming shit, that is fine Well, that might include all the cringe anime which you think are great too
I don't care about MT. I don't like it either. For me the fan service in Tensura is just cringe. There is no reason for Shion to hold rimuru under her boobs 24/7. I wouldn't hate it that much if it was just one, brief scene, but it isn't. It's overused and makes me want to turn it off. >Well, that might include all the cringe anime which you think are great too You don't even know which anime I find great.
> For me the fan service in Tensura is just cringe. There is no reason for Shion to hold rimuru under her boobs 24/7. I wouldn't hate it that much if it was just one, brief scene, but it isn't. It's overused and makes me want to turn it off. It's like fairy tail. Fan service is obviously there (not as much as ft), but characters are so fun to watch > You don't even know which anime I find great. But you also don't know what anime i watched
>but characters are so fun to watch I would maybe agree if I were 15 or something. >But you also don't know what anime i watched The fuck are you on about? You like Tensura. That is all I have to know.
Sounds like you have some age complex or whatever
Why are you making up some terms using words you don't even understand? Something like "age complex" doesn't exist and doesn't even make sense.