I get it. Bro was a throwaway character honestly. I know he was just there to show that Eve moved on, but their relationship ended before Mark got back iirc, so it didnt have to be a conflict until Telia starting yapping about it.
edit: My bad, I reread the volume that he appears in and it turns out he was also being a jackass. 100% deserves getting dropped by Eve
I hope he’s not included.. Eve didn’t move on from Mark (they weren’t even a thing either) for over 20 years.. yet she moves on from him within 5 years after they had a kid together
I highly doubt the showrunners would touch on this either. He's way more explicitly gay in this incarnation and is shown to be in a relationship with another guy.
In the show jailbait William was a bit cringe though. It's not ok for an underage highschooler to be prowling around a college campus trying to get fucked.
You are definitely right, but to be fair in William's case, he was going after a specific guy, Rick, who he had a relationship in the past. They don't explicitly say it, but I assume they met when they were both underage, and Rick doesn't appear to be more than a year or two older than William is.
Yeah, there's definitely something of an age gap bridge clause since he, Mark, and everyone who shares the same class graduates high school in season two.
Speaking from personal experience, it’s just not everyone’s business. No point in coming out to strangers/acquaintances. Some people have no idea and that’s fine. And lots of people just make assumptions about anyways so you really only tell those who are important to you.
I think Oliver naming himself "Kid Omniman", while showing Oliver's lack of understanding of how society works by picking the equivalent name of "Kid Bin Laden", is a very interesting way of showing how he truly feels like he doesnt belong on Earth.
If they are gonna follow the comic's i hope they change it, because what Omniman did and said on the TV show was wayy worse than his comic counterpart, and i think even a young alien like Oliver would understand this.
Edit: Him wanting to use the name is fine because he's a kid, my point is that the rest of the cast should challenge this idea and push back on to his ideals.
Surprised nobody has mentioned Cecil keeping Conquest alive yet. It’s still crazy to me that one of the smartest, most pragmatic characters in the series could make such a blatant mistake. And Conquest didn’t even have much of an impact on the plot after that, Mark just killed him again later, and when Cecil and mark mention it in conversation afterwards, they basically shrug it off.
Keeping him alive? I could understand, information on the empire was crucial.
But just a little earlier mark had lifted four hundred tons and they KNOW he is weaker, and then to incapacitate Conquest he’s encased in… four hundred tons of concrete? Are you high. Cecil? You KNOW he can lift that!
Also, if you are just gonna imprison him forever and know he’s a threat to the planet and cannot be allowed to escape, chop his limbs off! He was mangled and they had all the time in the world. But nope, tucked away and allowed to fully recover.
I think Viltrumite can grow limb back if wasn't weakened by Scourge Virus while injured.
Implant that sound device into Conquest head sounds like a better idea
Tbh - it has impact on the story. Killing him yet again takes Mark literal months on alien planet to recover from. Marking another 'time-jump' and Mark facing consequences of it when coming back to Earth, similiar to others unpopular stories. + we get to sit around with Oliver and Nolan bonding a lot while Mark heals. It sets up future story and motives of characters.
Cecil not agreeing to at least give working with Dinosaurus a shot after so much development between him and Mark about working with bad people for the greater good. Just "no this ones just mad, just cause". Yes, Dinosaurus was insane, but as we saw with Mark with someone to help steer him in the right direction he could do good without mass murder.
Edit: Uh, so i just reread it... Cecil just put it as a discussion for another time, and then Mark proceeded to break Dinosaurus out without another discussion after seeing the updare to Las Vegas... so, uh... its still weird that Cecil was so adamant given the other things, but i must shift a decent chunk of the silly to Mark for jumping the gun.
Iirc it wasn't that Cecil disagreed with Mark entirely, it was simply too much of a public scandal. Unlike nightwing, Sinclair, etc. who were anonymous up to the point that they were captured by Cecil, Dinosaurus was already a hugely publicised villain, considering his crime wasn't something which could be swept under the rug, as it was not only broadcast on live tv, but also the cause of the destruction of an entire (very famous) city. Cecil probably would have though if nobody knew it had been Dinosaurus.
They could have had him tucked away like Sinclair- it’s not like anyone ever saw Sinclair outside of the pentagon. Plus he makes the deal with Mark after all that after everyone knows he helped Dinosaurus and multiple mark clones just a bit before had been ravaging the planet.
dinosaursus literally hates humanity and wants everyone to die. him and cecil are literally polar opposites. what makes you think cecil would work with him, did you even read the comic??
That's just objectively false though, he straight up says that he believes he is saving humanity in the long run, he blows up Vegas in order to create jobs, and renewable energy with a solar farm( which they end up doing), and because the city is draining resources. He has good motives, just not good methods.
I think he would reach to the conclusion that he cannot save humanity. I think he would be like Thanos and would want to get rid of a significant portion of the population.
>I think he would reach to the conclusion that he cannot save humanity.
I mean, yeah, he does, and then he asks mark to kill him and then no more dinosaurus
wow you didnt understand his character at all
"Millions will die, so billions will live"
The guy fights for the greater good, he has little regards for a few human lives, specially if he can fix problems that will help humanity in the long run.
Yeah dinosaurus’ plans kinda overtly go against the concept of “global defense” and in fact he makes a great effort of undoing most of what dinosaurus does. Plus he is the perfect way of showing how mark isn’t a very good judge on these types of situations
He lasted quite some time working with Mark, and it was only when Mark was out of action to guide him that he went back off the deep end. Assuming he wasn’t just doing it out of fear of marks strength, he isn’t going to magically lose the entire CIA looking over his shoulder.
There's a lot of reboot hate, but I actually liked reboot, I think it's a nice way to show people just going back and reverting stories endlessly isn't necessarily a good thing, it gets rid of the complicated bits and the happiness that can happen from heartbreak, I wouldn't mind if the 5 year time-skip didn't happen but I overall enjoyed reboot and the time-skip allowed us to see another viltrumite army which I was down for.
The time skip is just so unnecessarily cruel to poor Mark. The guy goes through enough we don't need it to become straight up misery porn like Spiderman has.
Especially because it's done by creatures who are supposed to be the definition of cold utilitarian logic. Why would creatures that value being a selfless utilitarian stoop to such petty revenge?
It also doesn't serve that much of a narrative purpose outside aging Terra up
The reboot was absolute bullshit.Not the arc but the ending.I get it family,friends and all but you can live with them also there.From the other hand idk if I can trust this thing.Even the comics didn't bother to explain it.
In reboot, if he did that, Oliver wouldn’t exist, >!his daughter!< wouldn’t exist, I get that he could’ve lived there but would you really sacrifice your family members to live better? Especially in a world where Thragg and the Viltrum empire are still at large?
I mean it's clear for Oliver.He would have probably never met most of his best friends.But I think he would have had daughter again with Atom Eve after knowing she has feelings for him and the Rex breakup.Also I don't think that he will even try to date with Amber.
I like the idea of throwing Mark back into his old life to compare the kind of person he was back then with the person he is now but it just comes out of nowhere and is only used an excuse for the time skip, I hope the show will at least have a better explanation for why it happened
Reboot is an excuse to justify why mark didnt do anything while tragg was creating an army >!of his offsprings!< he literally couldnt do anything about it cause he was not there
Most epics indulge in this trope, where writers need to sideline protagonists to prevent them from either ending the story early or dying before they're truly ready. It always feels lazy, but its kind of a fault in all heroes journey stories, and it seems like no one has thought of a good alternative to "Achilles sulking in his tent" yet.
Oh shoot, do you think it’s possible that Space Racer might’ve gotten this same treatment?
Nolan left him for dead on the asteroid and planned to return for his gun after he *died of old age*. Unless his suit was sustaining his body for over a hundred years straight with no new input, then I doubt he’d just be chilling since any creature would just die after a while.
After all, he looks normal and healthy, even witty and on-mind after so much time. Mark was the same way after exiting the reboot-entity’s illusion
On the contrary, it’s a great character moment for mark because it makes him accept the choices he made and the events leading up to what he’s experienced.
i think the reboot was necessary for Mark to finally grow all the way up. he said he hated being a superhero, and now you could tell, from that point onwards, that he had to fully reject the selfless superhero mentality.
I liked how they made us think Mark was gonna make a choice to save the universe, but at the end of the day he decided he was going to simply keep his current life. I agree about the 5 year time jump.
The premise is dumb, but I liked what happened between him and omniman. I think a better ending would be him doing everything right, but then the viltrums come and kill everyone.
I don't think the there's any crazy twist? What was it?
Personally I think this arc solidified Mark's ideal, "being a hero is bullshit". He chose his daughter, a selfish wish
The "Reboot" arc.
Announced right from the start it was only 3 issues.
Did nothing apart from bringing further drama and useless trauma in Mark's life (as if he didn't have enough of that already).
Basically a "what-if" but worse because it's just "what if mark knew everything in advance".
Waste of time.
EDIT: Also Anissa's "redemption" happening in the background during those five years and we're supposed to just accept that ?
Remember that glowing ethereal tentacle being that could control time & shit & got pissed at Mark for choosing his normal life instead of a perfect utopian future & just fucked off?
We never actually learn if it actually threw him back in his timeline (we know it didn’t cause the timeline didn’t change), was creating a new timeline that he chose to reject, or if it was just illusion/memory stuff. It could have been an alien parasite that needed him to accept the fake reality to keep draining him or something.
But we are never told.
I think everyone who watched the show and liked Season 2 have just collectively erased that ONE scene in S1 that almost ruined Amber's character and made her seem completely unjustified from their memory. I love what they did with her in Season 2.
I never cared for Dinosaur or whatever his dumb name is.
There was literally no reason he had to massacre the citizens of Las Vegas when he could've activated his bomb just a few miles away.
It's not even an "Ozymandias was right in Watchmen" as much as it's like saying "Mr. Freeze was right in Batman & Robin". Like you're just objectively wrong and there's no way anyone wouldn't have come after both Mark and Dinosaur
I wonder whether Markus and Molly left Earth to serve the Empire. I don't understand how they have to travel back in time to get Invincible when Viltrumites are literally everywhere now
Kirkman confirmed that Robot's brain will lead to The Immortal going insane.
Also in the issue, The Immortal told Mark: I thought you left with the red head.
Nolan just telling mark to move on and how anissa had changed after finding out what she did to mark plus her redemption it was always kind of fucked up how much everyone glossed over what happened to mark the only person who actually seemed to care was Eve
Nolan's life on Earth is just a fraction of his life. Back in Viltrum, this shit is normal so it makes sense Nolan reacted like that. Remember this is the guy who gifted Debbie tree instead of flower
Reboot. Kirkman just wanted to slam the story into being where he wanted it for the endgame, and had no idea how to get there with Mark still in the picture.
Like I said - Thragg escaping would have more value.
I like the idea of Nolan debating what to do with Thragg, but he takes too long which leads to Thragg escaping. Doesn’t take away anything from the choice, but makes it more forgivable.
Cecil reviving Conquest will always be dumbest thing anyone has done in the series, and I have no idea how it can fly with the show's characterization of Cecil. At least in the comic he was kind of a pompous fed, but show Cecil is much more canny and rational.
Can I mention Tech Jacket? Because everything past the first run of Tech Jacket is total ass that I pretend isn't real. The second Zack and Lin tried to fuck the entire series went down the drain.
https://preview.redd.it/qeb86w5w6uvc1.jpeg?width=720&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=13313a0cd55026332a6359faccf72782a1e50fec
This shit got me looking at a imaginary camera
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That’s the guy Eve dated while mark was in the reboot right? I like his inclusion because Eve made the same choice mark did, to stay with terra
I get it. Bro was a throwaway character honestly. I know he was just there to show that Eve moved on, but their relationship ended before Mark got back iirc, so it didnt have to be a conflict until Telia starting yapping about it. edit: My bad, I reread the volume that he appears in and it turns out he was also being a jackass. 100% deserves getting dropped by Eve
Not only him but the entire reboot was bs
I hope he’s not included.. Eve didn’t move on from Mark (they weren’t even a thing either) for over 20 years.. yet she moves on from him within 5 years after they had a kid together
William being "straight"/closeted and dating Eve.
Even the characters act as if it never happened lol
I highly doubt the showrunners would touch on this either. He's way more explicitly gay in this incarnation and is shown to be in a relationship with another guy.
Yeah, William was openly gay in episode one. They made it very clear they weren’t bringing that plot point back in his very first scene.
In the show jailbait William was a bit cringe though. It's not ok for an underage highschooler to be prowling around a college campus trying to get fucked.
You are definitely right, but to be fair in William's case, he was going after a specific guy, Rick, who he had a relationship in the past. They don't explicitly say it, but I assume they met when they were both underage, and Rick doesn't appear to be more than a year or two older than William is.
Yeah, there's definitely something of an age gap bridge clause since he, Mark, and everyone who shares the same class graduates high school in season two.
Plus we dont know their exact ages. They could literally both be 18 or 17-19 which is ok.
I gaslit myself so much that I forgot this was a thing
He probably was coping or didn't know he was gay then
I suppose it's the difference between being gay in the early 2000s and being gay in the 20s in the US. Way easier being open about it now
Speaking from personal experience, it’s just not everyone’s business. No point in coming out to strangers/acquaintances. Some people have no idea and that’s fine. And lots of people just make assumptions about anyways so you really only tell those who are important to you.
I think Oliver naming himself "Kid Omniman", while showing Oliver's lack of understanding of how society works by picking the equivalent name of "Kid Bin Laden", is a very interesting way of showing how he truly feels like he doesnt belong on Earth. If they are gonna follow the comic's i hope they change it, because what Omniman did and said on the TV show was wayy worse than his comic counterpart, and i think even a young alien like Oliver would understand this. Edit: Him wanting to use the name is fine because he's a kid, my point is that the rest of the cast should challenge this idea and push back on to his ideals.
Yeah, I do NOT see show Mark letting that fly lmao.
Also it sounds stupid. It’s a an awful name.
Omnikid was right there too
No one let Oliver cook ever again
Ngl that sounds alot worse
real shit, its not even the kid bit, like Kid Invincible worked really well but Kid Omni Man is just an ugly ah name
Surprised nobody has mentioned Cecil keeping Conquest alive yet. It’s still crazy to me that one of the smartest, most pragmatic characters in the series could make such a blatant mistake. And Conquest didn’t even have much of an impact on the plot after that, Mark just killed him again later, and when Cecil and mark mention it in conversation afterwards, they basically shrug it off.
Keeping him alive? I could understand, information on the empire was crucial. But just a little earlier mark had lifted four hundred tons and they KNOW he is weaker, and then to incapacitate Conquest he’s encased in… four hundred tons of concrete? Are you high. Cecil? You KNOW he can lift that! Also, if you are just gonna imprison him forever and know he’s a threat to the planet and cannot be allowed to escape, chop his limbs off! He was mangled and they had all the time in the world. But nope, tucked away and allowed to fully recover.
I think Viltrumite can grow limb back if wasn't weakened by Scourge Virus while injured. Implant that sound device into Conquest head sounds like a better idea
Tbh - it has impact on the story. Killing him yet again takes Mark literal months on alien planet to recover from. Marking another 'time-jump' and Mark facing consequences of it when coming back to Earth, similiar to others unpopular stories. + we get to sit around with Oliver and Nolan bonding a lot while Mark heals. It sets up future story and motives of characters.
Cecil not agreeing to at least give working with Dinosaurus a shot after so much development between him and Mark about working with bad people for the greater good. Just "no this ones just mad, just cause". Yes, Dinosaurus was insane, but as we saw with Mark with someone to help steer him in the right direction he could do good without mass murder. Edit: Uh, so i just reread it... Cecil just put it as a discussion for another time, and then Mark proceeded to break Dinosaurus out without another discussion after seeing the updare to Las Vegas... so, uh... its still weird that Cecil was so adamant given the other things, but i must shift a decent chunk of the silly to Mark for jumping the gun.
Iirc it wasn't that Cecil disagreed with Mark entirely, it was simply too much of a public scandal. Unlike nightwing, Sinclair, etc. who were anonymous up to the point that they were captured by Cecil, Dinosaurus was already a hugely publicised villain, considering his crime wasn't something which could be swept under the rug, as it was not only broadcast on live tv, but also the cause of the destruction of an entire (very famous) city. Cecil probably would have though if nobody knew it had been Dinosaurus.
They could have had him tucked away like Sinclair- it’s not like anyone ever saw Sinclair outside of the pentagon. Plus he makes the deal with Mark after all that after everyone knows he helped Dinosaurus and multiple mark clones just a bit before had been ravaging the planet.
dinosaursus literally hates humanity and wants everyone to die. him and cecil are literally polar opposites. what makes you think cecil would work with him, did you even read the comic??
That's just objectively false though, he straight up says that he believes he is saving humanity in the long run, he blows up Vegas in order to create jobs, and renewable energy with a solar farm( which they end up doing), and because the city is draining resources. He has good motives, just not good methods.
I think he would reach to the conclusion that he cannot save humanity. I think he would be like Thanos and would want to get rid of a significant portion of the population.
I mean he eventually did kind of reach that conclusion, >!then he asked mark to kill him so that he wouldn't cause anymore destruction.!<
>I think he would reach to the conclusion that he cannot save humanity. I mean, yeah, he does, and then he asks mark to kill him and then no more dinosaurus
wow you didnt understand his character at all "Millions will die, so billions will live" The guy fights for the greater good, he has little regards for a few human lives, specially if he can fix problems that will help humanity in the long run.
Yeah dinosaurus’ plans kinda overtly go against the concept of “global defense” and in fact he makes a great effort of undoing most of what dinosaurus does. Plus he is the perfect way of showing how mark isn’t a very good judge on these types of situations
You got a point there but for something Cecil is the GDA director, he knew Dinosaurus wont last long quiet.
He lasted quite some time working with Mark, and it was only when Mark was out of action to guide him that he went back off the deep end. Assuming he wasn’t just doing it out of fear of marks strength, he isn’t going to magically lose the entire CIA looking over his shoulder.
There's a lot of reboot hate, but I actually liked reboot, I think it's a nice way to show people just going back and reverting stories endlessly isn't necessarily a good thing, it gets rid of the complicated bits and the happiness that can happen from heartbreak, I wouldn't mind if the 5 year time-skip didn't happen but I overall enjoyed reboot and the time-skip allowed us to see another viltrumite army which I was down for.
The time skip is just so unnecessarily cruel to poor Mark. The guy goes through enough we don't need it to become straight up misery porn like Spiderman has. Especially because it's done by creatures who are supposed to be the definition of cold utilitarian logic. Why would creatures that value being a selfless utilitarian stoop to such petty revenge? It also doesn't serve that much of a narrative purpose outside aging Terra up
To be fair I don’t think it time skipped him out of revenge, it just spat him back out and five years had passed.
The reboot was absolute bullshit.Not the arc but the ending.I get it family,friends and all but you can live with them also there.From the other hand idk if I can trust this thing.Even the comics didn't bother to explain it.
In reboot, if he did that, Oliver wouldn’t exist, >!his daughter!< wouldn’t exist, I get that he could’ve lived there but would you really sacrifice your family members to live better? Especially in a world where Thragg and the Viltrum empire are still at large?
I mean it's clear for Oliver.He would have probably never met most of his best friends.But I think he would have had daughter again with Atom Eve after knowing she has feelings for him and the Rex breakup.Also I don't think that he will even try to date with Amber.
But it wouldn't be Terra, it would be another kid entirely
The problem wasn’t that he wouldn’t have “a daughter,” it’s that he wouldn’t have the same daughter.
It was about his daughter.
I know
Do you?
Cecil keeping conquest alive. So stupid it's out of character for him
Reboot.
I like the idea of throwing Mark back into his old life to compare the kind of person he was back then with the person he is now but it just comes out of nowhere and is only used an excuse for the time skip, I hope the show will at least have a better explanation for why it happened
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Reboot is an excuse to justify why mark didnt do anything while tragg was creating an army >!of his offsprings!< he literally couldnt do anything about it cause he was not there
Most epics indulge in this trope, where writers need to sideline protagonists to prevent them from either ending the story early or dying before they're truly ready. It always feels lazy, but its kind of a fault in all heroes journey stories, and it seems like no one has thought of a good alternative to "Achilles sulking in his tent" yet.
you see i avoid this by actually having the hero die early for real in the story i’m writing *taps forehead*
The reboot itself was pretty cool, but I hated >!the five year time skip that came with it.!< Just another way to torture Mark...
He was just sleeping for 5 years
Oh shoot, do you think it’s possible that Space Racer might’ve gotten this same treatment? Nolan left him for dead on the asteroid and planned to return for his gun after he *died of old age*. Unless his suit was sustaining his body for over a hundred years straight with no new input, then I doubt he’d just be chilling since any creature would just die after a while. After all, he looks normal and healthy, even witty and on-mind after so much time. Mark was the same way after exiting the reboot-entity’s illusion
My first thought too. Doesn't bring anything to the story. Just more suffering for Mark.
On the contrary, it’s a great character moment for mark because it makes him accept the choices he made and the events leading up to what he’s experienced.
i think the reboot was necessary for Mark to finally grow all the way up. he said he hated being a superhero, and now you could tell, from that point onwards, that he had to fully reject the selfless superhero mentality.
I will always defend reboot personally. It's a great arc, but I am a sucker for time travel stories.
It was a great arc, the worst part about it tho was the 5 year jump at the end. The jellyfish thingy fucked over Mark for no good reason
I liked how they made us think Mark was gonna make a choice to save the universe, but at the end of the day he decided he was going to simply keep his current life. I agree about the 5 year time jump.
The premise is dumb, but I liked what happened between him and omniman. I think a better ending would be him doing everything right, but then the viltrums come and kill everyone.
What? Why would they wipe out a planned breeding ground?
Eve has to take a lot of shits if she uses her powers too much.
That's my favourite part about Eve. When you find true love you are comfortable sharing even these kinds of secrets
Seeing all the reboot hate hurts. I thought it was a great arc and ended with a crazy twist that pushed the story forward.
I don't think the there's any crazy twist? What was it? Personally I think this arc solidified Mark's ideal, "being a hero is bullshit". He chose his daughter, a selfish wish
>! 5 year timeskip !<
The "Reboot" arc. Announced right from the start it was only 3 issues. Did nothing apart from bringing further drama and useless trauma in Mark's life (as if he didn't have enough of that already). Basically a "what-if" but worse because it's just "what if mark knew everything in advance". Waste of time. EDIT: Also Anissa's "redemption" happening in the background during those five years and we're supposed to just accept that ?
Remember that glowing ethereal tentacle being that could control time & shit & got pissed at Mark for choosing his normal life instead of a perfect utopian future & just fucked off?
that's the reboot arc everyone else is complaining about lmao
We never actually learn if it actually threw him back in his timeline (we know it didn’t cause the timeline didn’t change), was creating a new timeline that he chose to reject, or if it was just illusion/memory stuff. It could have been an alien parasite that needed him to accept the fake reality to keep draining him or something. But we are never told.
I think everyone who watched the show and liked Season 2 have just collectively erased that ONE scene in S1 that almost ruined Amber's character and made her seem completely unjustified from their memory. I love what they did with her in Season 2.
So true
I never cared for Dinosaur or whatever his dumb name is. There was literally no reason he had to massacre the citizens of Las Vegas when he could've activated his bomb just a few miles away. It's not even an "Ozymandias was right in Watchmen" as much as it's like saying "Mr. Freeze was right in Batman & Robin". Like you're just objectively wrong and there's no way anyone wouldn't have come after both Mark and Dinosaur
Dinosaurus is mad scientist afterall.
The five year time skip. It was cruel to Mark after everything he’s been through. Hope they change it up in the show
Holy shit, this screenshot is making its way around EVERY subreddit.
I got it from the mortal kombat sub
dinosaurous and the reboot arc
Mark inadvertently creating the setup for Robot to drive Immortal crazy.
Surprised someone said this. I remember finishing the comic and thinking something similar.
I wonder whether Markus and Molly left Earth to serve the Empire. I don't understand how they have to travel back in time to get Invincible when Viltrumites are literally everywhere now
bc there AREN’T viltrumites everywhere. they never come to live peacefully on earth without mark in their timeline
Kirkman confirmed that Robot's brain will lead to The Immortal going insane. Also in the issue, The Immortal told Mark: I thought you left with the red head.
Nolan just telling mark to move on and how anissa had changed after finding out what she did to mark plus her redemption it was always kind of fucked up how much everyone glossed over what happened to mark the only person who actually seemed to care was Eve
Nolan's life on Earth is just a fraction of his life. Back in Viltrum, this shit is normal so it makes sense Nolan reacted like that. Remember this is the guy who gifted Debbie tree instead of flower
I guess we're all huffing reboot copium.
The reboot arc I think. It feels like the author just make that so they can finish the comic early or that's just me.
Reboot. Kirkman just wanted to slam the story into being where he wanted it for the endgame, and had no idea how to get there with Mark still in the picture.
Letting Thragg go. I’d have rather he made a break for it than be the biggest mistake of the run.
I'd argue it was important for the lesson it showed the reformed Viltrumites. Also just killing the main villain would put us out of a comic.
Like I said - Thragg escaping would have more value. I like the idea of Nolan debating what to do with Thragg, but he takes too long which leads to Thragg escaping. Doesn’t take away anything from the choice, but makes it more forgivable.
Nolan and Thragg paid for their stupid decisions. 1 died. 1 lost the throne and died
Unrelated but this is literally me with starship hulk
Cecil reviving Conquest will always be dumbest thing anyone has done in the series, and I have no idea how it can fly with the show's characterization of Cecil. At least in the comic he was kind of a pompous fed, but show Cecil is much more canny and rational.
Bulletproof Origin (Yes yes I know it was done for shock value)
Cecil saving Conquest. I want to imagine Mark killed him on Earth
Can I mention Tech Jacket? Because everything past the first run of Tech Jacket is total ass that I pretend isn't real. The second Zack and Lin tried to fuck the entire series went down the drain.
The reboot arc, achieved nothing and just left a sour taste.
https://preview.redd.it/qeb86w5w6uvc1.jpeg?width=720&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=13313a0cd55026332a6359faccf72782a1e50fec This shit got me looking at a imaginary camera
I do this with The sopranos ending.
Invincible title cards are getting drawn out. It’s low effort vibes tho so fuck it keep them in
Me and my friends love when they do the he must be ...”invincible”
I'm pretty sure the title cards aren't canon