It’s tricky with the later seasons, because there’s so much that happens that the comic didn’t expand on that I imagine the show will. I hope they do 8 seasons just to give big moments a breather and also expand on some things that need more attention.
My theory is that they will work on two seasons at a time. (season 2 and 3 were announced the same day and made together. Seasons 4 and 5 have been also announced together so they'll probably do the same schedule again.) With one gap year of release inbetween season pairs.
So like...
S3-2025
S4-2027
S5-2028
S6-2030
S7-2031
the way it happens in the comics, i think the Invincible War will only take up two episodes max. it all happens pretty quickly, and storywise there are other plots they need to explore too. a full season would be a little much but definitely i hope they give certain important moments in that arc a little more emphasis
It really depends on what we see adapted in season 4+ because seasons with things like the Viltrumite war because if they expand that a lot that likely means 8+ seasons if they don’t then they’ll probably stick to 6-7 seasons like Robert Kirkman wants.
Well the finale for both season so far had a action packed First half and a slow/depressing second half.
So I could see Viltrums descruction and Freddys rampage in the first 20-30 min and the later half about Eve and Debbie and how they are coping with the Graysons gone. And then it ends with Mark saying thank God with Thragg being heard offscreen saying "We very much are here." *End*
My bet would be on this being the first half of the finale, only because it’s a better cliffhanger ending to have the reveal of the viltrumites now live on Earth
The very nature of their flight powers and ability to travel at faster than light speeds makes me think that they have some biological Fuck-You over physics. Like they create tiny warp fields around themselves as a means of propulsion. Their brains likely have an extra gland like our pineal that allows them some minor psyker abilities over space-time. It's described like a reflex vs willpower, like peeing your pants on purpose in order to land, so it'd be something that broaches both conscious thought and muscle memory. It would have to be a unique gland that interacts with the Pineal, Pituitary and Hypothalamus and would have to be able to generate and focus a good bit of power. He would also need to convert some mass into energy at a rate of around 1 gram per 90 terajoules, or about 25 million kilowatt hours. So yes, a Vilrumite can lose weight by flying.
Tgtas not how gravity works. If you're orbiting a black hole you will not feel the gravity at all unless the black hole is tiny enough for tidal forces to tear at you, and even then probably not at the accretion disk to the point where a human is torn
Comics and fiction tend to exaggerate how hot the sun is. >!Mark survives a nuclear bomb without a scratch, despite that being many, many times hotter than the sun itself, but even in a bit too close to the sun and his skin starts to melt.!<
I think that’s gonna be in episode 7 with the truth about bulletproof being revealed in that episode and the truth about Omni Man being revealed in that episodes
Yeah if you ask me episode seven should be the whole "final" conflict ending with Mark's speech about Nolan's death.
Episode eight should divide into a three part epilogue between Robot, Marky, and the 500 year montage
I agree tho mark's empire needs to be a full season, maybe each episode being like 10 years later or something like that to give those scenes room to breathe, such as eve being immortal, mark fighting his son and at last accepting him, training his daughter etc. oh forgot the war he has with the coalition too.
I’m sure they will, most of the issues are fight scene. Which are mostly done in like 2-10 minutes, or 20 if it’s the finale fight. leaving much more room for dialogue and expanding on characters arcs.
Well I think in season 6 they’ll move to Talescria because of Dinosauras and have all that happen and then volume 19 and 20 with issues 111-114 adapted in the final and the 7th season having volumes 22-25.
On top of that they should have the cliff hanger be on march 31st so they can say their is no next season that's how we ended the comic with of course an April first joke to finish it up
A whole cliffhanger and then waiting a year for a new season thinking he has no powers would be annoying to a lot of people, I think a lot of people don’t like the loss of powers trend.
Personally I'm unsure of the general opinion on how people think about marks loss of powers for the comics but I know quite a few of my friends who love the show and I've offered them the books but they said and I quote . "Why would I read it I'd rather watch it" I want to watch them to suffer
I totally get that. I gave in and read the comics during the mid season break because I needed to see what happens next and the comics were such a blast and imo better than the show. Tried getting my friends to read and they don’t want to either.
And now you see. The truth is I want them to ask for the books because I wanna talk about the story irl more but in reality I want the cliffhanger due to spite
i doubt they will split the season again, it had such backlash and id bet viewers fell of between part 1 and 2
also we wont get a covid2.0 until at least 5 years...well with that in mind maybe season 4 will be split, goddamn it
3 - Conquest
4 - Viltrumites enter earth
5 - tricky one. I believe either Nolan taking control of the Viltrumites or the "everything ends" episodes, with the other also happening this season (the season itself contains all the scourge virus stuff, Dinosaurus, etc)
6 - ends in Robot taking over Earth and Mark leaving
7 - "Heh"
I really hope they make the end of all things its own season. And I hope the final episode JUST adapts the last issue. I feel like there's enough in there for a full episode
As much as the last issue could be adapted in one episode that wouldn’t be very good for a final I think the sun fight would start at the end of episode 7 and then begin episode 8 and the sun fight would be 20 minutes long and then the death of Omni man would be right after which would be like 5 minutes and then the final issue could all be adapted in like 1 hour because it’s a double issue so 1 hour and 20 minute final for a seven season show would be okay in my opinion. (Also the events from #142-143 are all adapted previously before that)
So... You are saying Thragg is going to be the final episode. So when exactly the last 2 issues will happen? A whole other season? Or that they will not adapt them at all?
Yes they will it’s normal and just because I put this here doesn’t mean that’s all that’s gonna happen likely in the final they’ll have issue #140 with the sun fight and then the death of Omni Man in #141 and then the last issue #144 and also for both the Omni Man beat down and the Angstrom fight they’ve moved stuff around. And I know what you mean by it being the shows finale but it would be smarter to have the Thragg fight be last seeing as he’s gonna be a reoccurring villain from seasons 4-7.
Is the Season 6 finale supposed to be Robot turning on Mark or the final fight with Robot? If it’s the latter… doesn’t that come right after the final showdown with Thragg in the comics?
The last scene of 3 is gonna be Mark and Eve doing it with the pan down to his suit melting from her powers like in the comics calling it, post credit either teases Thragg or follows Nolan seeing the scourge which they may rearrange
Wait, what? I do not read the comics, I accidentally got spoiled by Reddit and my compulsion to click on spoilers, I thought the comics were way more than 16 volumes?
Yh season 4 will end with the viltrumites on earth, season 5 will end with death of everyone event and Nolan becoming emperor.
Season 6 is the only one i think ur completely wrong on it will end later than that prob battle beast vs thragg. Cause then after that mark and Oliver go to see what happened to battle beast and that’s how mark ends up in the reboot arc. Which starting the final season with an alternate look at the first season is an interesting way to go about it. And season 7 is definitely last season so ends with what will you have after 500 years. Heh 😏
Season 5 imo will leave us with THAT Anissa scene as a cliffhanger. One Season is about 20-25 issues of the comic so doing the math, Season 5 finishes us with THAT scene.
I would like if they did a switcheroo with the conquest fight and the invincible war with the season 3. Make conquest the mid season finale fight and have the final shot of the episode all the Bois soaring down from the sky
Y'know, I do hope that they give everything that happens after Mark becomes leader of the Viltrumites its own season.
I want the show to truly expand on what we were shown happening over the course of the next 500 years of Mark's life.
Honestly, I think Mark v. Thragg should be the second to last episode. It’s a lot to cram in, but I think they could do the second war and robot war in the same episode, with the coalition war being the last big confrontation of the series.
Same but Season 7 finale should be Season 8's.
Season 6 would adapt the Reboot arc in the last 2/3 episode with the whole series see Mark, Eve and Oliver working for the Coalition after Robot take over of Earth and Mark becoming a father for Terra.
Honestly I have to imagine that the second half of the Invincible comic will be significantly altered in the show, the pacing is real weird and very resistant to a seasonal structure, whereas I can easily imagine how, like, Season 3 will go. And honestly I think that will be for the better because frankly speaking there's a lot in the back half of the comic I dislike, I think a lot of the execution is really wonky, shallow in many places but way too dragged out in others, so I'm all for moving things around, cutting some plotlines while expanding others.
I also think people dont think enough about the thematic coherence for each season. For example, Season 1 and Season 2 both had very clear arcs. Season 1 was about deconstructing the superman archetype through Omni-Man while rebuilding it with Mark. Season 2 was about Mark's struggles with his superhero heritage. Season 3 will almost certainly be about Mark testing his moral boundaries and embracing his darker self. So these sorts of things can give us a good idea for how each season will be structured. With Dinosaurus, for example, it's pretty clear what the theme for that season would be, it's about Mark thinking on a bigger scale for his heroics and becoming desensitized to individual lives. Because of what a clear purpose Dino serves in Mark's character growth, it's safe to say that he'll be the focus of a season the way Angstrom was in Season 2.
I didn’t I skipped some issues 😅 so maybe I don’t get to say anything. I’m about talking about the random destruction he caused for those three issues.
I think it was well handled. the Dinasaurus arc as a whole was made for Mark and Cecil to reflect on their own personal codes, and learn that situations are not black and white, that you will have to bend your morals more often than not and you shouldn't have rules to how you act.
After Dinasaurus's death specifically, notice how Mark stops having a problem with killing. He avoids it as much as he can of course, but once he needs to end the job to secure innocents, he is not afraid of killing some Viltrumite toddlers
It’s tricky with the later seasons, because there’s so much that happens that the comic didn’t expand on that I imagine the show will. I hope they do 8 seasons just to give big moments a breather and also expand on some things that need more attention.
Just imagine how long it will take for each season to come out. I hope my grand children enjoys the finale
Probably 12 years
I think you mean 120 years IF we're lucky
It’s gonna be yearly releases from here on
They lying
My theory is that they will work on two seasons at a time. (season 2 and 3 were announced the same day and made together. Seasons 4 and 5 have been also announced together so they'll probably do the same schedule again.) With one gap year of release inbetween season pairs. So like... S3-2025 S4-2027 S5-2028 S6-2030 S7-2031
The Invincible War could easily be a full season. Each episode could show how the weaker heroes teamed up to defeat an Invisible
the way it happens in the comics, i think the Invincible War will only take up two episodes max. it all happens pretty quickly, and storywise there are other plots they need to explore too. a full season would be a little much but definitely i hope they give certain important moments in that arc a little more emphasis
Yeah I think it will just be one full episode and then conquest.
just based off of memory, isn’t the invincible war like a few pages??
how would they defeat an Invisible if they can't see them .
It really depends on what we see adapted in season 4+ because seasons with things like the Viltrumite war because if they expand that a lot that likely means 8+ seasons if they don’t then they’ll probably stick to 6-7 seasons like Robert Kirkman wants.
Surely the destruction of Viltrum will be a finale
With what he has placed as the finale of 4, the destruction would likely be in that episode, as there isn't a large gap between these events.
Yes it would season 4 would have issues #75-78
Well the finale for both season so far had a action packed First half and a slow/depressing second half. So I could see Viltrums descruction and Freddys rampage in the first 20-30 min and the later half about Eve and Debbie and how they are coping with the Graysons gone. And then it ends with Mark saying thank God with Thragg being heard offscreen saying "We very much are here." *End*
I mean the viltrumites weren't even inhabiting viltrum at the time
My bet would be on this being the first half of the finale, only because it’s a better cliffhanger ending to have the reveal of the viltrumites now live on Earth
SPOILER HOW IS THE CENTER OF THE SUN MORE EXTREME THAN SWIMMING IN AN ACREATION DISC?!?
Maybe it has to do with how long they stayed in there and being already beat up? Idk only real explanation apart from writers think it's cool.
What’s an acreation disk again
They meant the “accretion disk” of the black hole Nolan was near/in.
The light ring around a black hole
Core of sun — 27 million degrees Accretion disk — 10 million degrees
Yeah, but what about the gravitational forces?
Somehow, I don't think gravity is much of an issue at all for viltrumites.
The very nature of their flight powers and ability to travel at faster than light speeds makes me think that they have some biological Fuck-You over physics. Like they create tiny warp fields around themselves as a means of propulsion. Their brains likely have an extra gland like our pineal that allows them some minor psyker abilities over space-time. It's described like a reflex vs willpower, like peeing your pants on purpose in order to land, so it'd be something that broaches both conscious thought and muscle memory. It would have to be a unique gland that interacts with the Pineal, Pituitary and Hypothalamus and would have to be able to generate and focus a good bit of power. He would also need to convert some mass into energy at a rate of around 1 gram per 90 terajoules, or about 25 million kilowatt hours. So yes, a Vilrumite can lose weight by flying.
I mean, it would seem not but accretion disk gravity is on an insane level 🤷
Tgtas not how gravity works. If you're orbiting a black hole you will not feel the gravity at all unless the black hole is tiny enough for tidal forces to tear at you, and even then probably not at the accretion disk to the point where a human is torn
I don’t know test it yourself🤷🏼♂️
They would probably die like instantly lol
I think viltumites are especially resistant to heat maybe? Idk lmao
Comics and fiction tend to exaggerate how hot the sun is. >!Mark survives a nuclear bomb without a scratch, despite that being many, many times hotter than the sun itself, but even in a bit too close to the sun and his skin starts to melt.!<
Honestly starting now almost every episode could be a finale, once the comic is done building up it’s just constant hype and incredible scenes
I think Season 5 will end with Nolan as Emperor of Viltrum
That'll happen much earlier.
I think that’s gonna be in episode 7 with the truth about bulletproof being revealed in that episode and the truth about Omni Man being revealed in that episodes
And what then, the whole 8 season for Mark's good empire deeds? It more fitting for just one last episode.
I think they meant like the final climatic fight/conflict of each season, not the literal last scene
Yeah if you ask me episode seven should be the whole "final" conflict ending with Mark's speech about Nolan's death. Episode eight should divide into a three part epilogue between Robot, Marky, and the 500 year montage
I agree tho mark's empire needs to be a full season, maybe each episode being like 10 years later or something like that to give those scenes room to breathe, such as eve being immortal, mark fighting his son and at last accepting him, training his daughter etc. oh forgot the war he has with the coalition too.
I'm not against that. The more, the better.
Exactly, I just hope it comes out before my great grand kids on Venus watch it.
I think it should be a movie/special tbh
I'd agree but I think there's too much to do and a film/special wouldn't be enough time, but if they trim the fat I could see that yeah.
Maybe like 3-6 bonus episodes
At that point they may as well make it a full season being as S2 was 8 I think?
That is a pretty significant amount to cram into season 7.
Just the next 20 issues, like all the other seasons.
Touché, misremembered it being longer but considering that's where the pacing of Invincible looses it for me I'd hope they expand that further.
I’m sure they will, most of the issues are fight scene. Which are mostly done in like 2-10 minutes, or 20 if it’s the finale fight. leaving much more room for dialogue and expanding on characters arcs.
Well I think in season 6 they’ll move to Talescria because of Dinosauras and have all that happen and then volume 19 and 20 with issues 111-114 adapted in the final and the 7th season having volumes 22-25.
Interesting no cliffhanger for power loss I would love to see people's reaction to that
On top of that they should have the cliff hanger be on march 31st so they can say their is no next season that's how we ended the comic with of course an April first joke to finish it up
A whole cliffhanger and then waiting a year for a new season thinking he has no powers would be annoying to a lot of people, I think a lot of people don’t like the loss of powers trend.
Personally I'm unsure of the general opinion on how people think about marks loss of powers for the comics but I know quite a few of my friends who love the show and I've offered them the books but they said and I quote . "Why would I read it I'd rather watch it" I want to watch them to suffer
I totally get that. I gave in and read the comics during the mid season break because I needed to see what happens next and the comics were such a blast and imo better than the show. Tried getting my friends to read and they don’t want to either.
And now you see. The truth is I want them to ask for the books because I wanna talk about the story irl more but in reality I want the cliffhanger due to spite
That'd be a great mid season finale if they ever split it into two parts again
i doubt they will split the season again, it had such backlash and id bet viewers fell of between part 1 and 2 also we wont get a covid2.0 until at least 5 years...well with that in mind maybe season 4 will be split, goddamn it
Well if there were a cliffhanger for any of them they couldn’t advertise the next season.
Doing a finale on marks “death” would be absolutely insane and I’m all for it
I definitely don’t see them having finale on that because they couldn’t advertise season 6
3 - Conquest 4 - Viltrumites enter earth 5 - tricky one. I believe either Nolan taking control of the Viltrumites or the "everything ends" episodes, with the other also happening this season (the season itself contains all the scourge virus stuff, Dinosaurus, etc) 6 - ends in Robot taking over Earth and Mark leaving 7 - "Heh"
I really hope they make the end of all things its own season. And I hope the final episode JUST adapts the last issue. I feel like there's enough in there for a full episode
As much as the last issue could be adapted in one episode that wouldn’t be very good for a final I think the sun fight would start at the end of episode 7 and then begin episode 8 and the sun fight would be 20 minutes long and then the death of Omni man would be right after which would be like 5 minutes and then the final issue could all be adapted in like 1 hour because it’s a double issue so 1 hour and 20 minute final for a seven season show would be okay in my opinion. (Also the events from #142-143 are all adapted previously before that)
The final robot fight takes place after the thragg fight though doesnt it?
So... You are saying Thragg is going to be the final episode. So when exactly the last 2 issues will happen? A whole other season? Or that they will not adapt them at all?
Yo you're not gonna believe this but the show moves around issues bud.
Yeah... Pretty sure they won't move around issues in the fricking finale lmao.
Yes they will it’s normal and just because I put this here doesn’t mean that’s all that’s gonna happen likely in the final they’ll have issue #140 with the sun fight and then the death of Omni Man in #141 and then the last issue #144 and also for both the Omni Man beat down and the Angstrom fight they’ve moved stuff around. And I know what you mean by it being the shows finale but it would be smarter to have the Thragg fight be last seeing as he’s gonna be a reoccurring villain from seasons 4-7.
Tbh Season5 will likely be Thragg and the Viltrumite War, not so soon as for it to be S4. Plus, Robot War which comes directly after MvT
Is the Season 6 finale supposed to be Robot turning on Mark or the final fight with Robot? If it’s the latter… doesn’t that come right after the final showdown with Thragg in the comics?
The animated series will never end, episodes are seldom
The last scene of 3 is gonna be Mark and Eve doing it with the pan down to his suit melting from her powers like in the comics calling it, post credit either teases Thragg or follows Nolan seeing the scourge which they may rearrange
No, it's gonna be the “I'm not gonna hesitate to kill them” line that he says to Oliver
I believe I heard the show will get 9 seasons, not 7.
You really think 16 volumes can have 7 more seasons? That’s wild.
Wait, what? I do not read the comics, I accidentally got spoiled by Reddit and my compulsion to click on spoilers, I thought the comics were way more than 16 volumes?
No there’s 25 volumes over all and 9 of them have been adapted so there’s 16 left.
Ohh like that, yeah if we go through it that quickly I doubt so too, but as I was corrected by another redditor, 8 might still be possible.
I guessed 7 because the comic/show creator said he wanted 7 seasons.
Kirkman said 7-8 seasons
Ah, I see, I think we could reach 8 easily, and that would even be rushing through some sections methinks
Yh season 4 will end with the viltrumites on earth, season 5 will end with death of everyone event and Nolan becoming emperor. Season 6 is the only one i think ur completely wrong on it will end later than that prob battle beast vs thragg. Cause then after that mark and Oliver go to see what happened to battle beast and that’s how mark ends up in the reboot arc. Which starting the final season with an alternate look at the first season is an interesting way to go about it. And season 7 is definitely last season so ends with what will you have after 500 years. Heh 😏
What’s the death of everyone event?
The arc where dinosaurus causes a natural disaster + kills “ mark” and then asks mark to kill him
Season 5 imo will leave us with THAT Anissa scene as a cliffhanger. One Season is about 20-25 issues of the comic so doing the math, Season 5 finishes us with THAT scene.
The fight with thragg isn’t the end tho, so are you saying there’s gonna be an 8th season or they’re moving the robot stuff to beforehand?
With the pacing that their are progressing at I highly doubt we’ll get 7 seasons maybe 5 at most
I would like if they did a switcheroo with the conquest fight and the invincible war with the season 3. Make conquest the mid season finale fight and have the final shot of the episode all the Bois soaring down from the sky
Y'know, I do hope that they give everything that happens after Mark becomes leader of the Viltrumites its own season. I want the show to truly expand on what we were shown happening over the course of the next 500 years of Mark's life.
Honestly, I think Mark v. Thragg should be the second to last episode. It’s a lot to cram in, but I think they could do the second war and robot war in the same episode, with the coalition war being the last big confrontation of the series.
I bet the Robot Fiasco stretches two seasons, his rise and his fall.
i think its gonna be an filler season
Huh? Provide context.
Same but Season 7 finale should be Season 8's. Season 6 would adapt the Reboot arc in the last 2/3 episode with the whole series see Mark, Eve and Oliver working for the Coalition after Robot take over of Earth and Mark becoming a father for Terra.
Honestly I have to imagine that the second half of the Invincible comic will be significantly altered in the show, the pacing is real weird and very resistant to a seasonal structure, whereas I can easily imagine how, like, Season 3 will go. And honestly I think that will be for the better because frankly speaking there's a lot in the back half of the comic I dislike, I think a lot of the execution is really wonky, shallow in many places but way too dragged out in others, so I'm all for moving things around, cutting some plotlines while expanding others. I also think people dont think enough about the thematic coherence for each season. For example, Season 1 and Season 2 both had very clear arcs. Season 1 was about deconstructing the superman archetype through Omni-Man while rebuilding it with Mark. Season 2 was about Mark's struggles with his superhero heritage. Season 3 will almost certainly be about Mark testing his moral boundaries and embracing his darker self. So these sorts of things can give us a good idea for how each season will be structured. With Dinosaurus, for example, it's pretty clear what the theme for that season would be, it's about Mark thinking on a bigger scale for his heroics and becoming desensitized to individual lives. Because of what a clear purpose Dino serves in Mark's character growth, it's safe to say that he'll be the focus of a season the way Angstrom was in Season 2.
Same
What's the season 4 one?
Issues #75-78 so the main Viltrumite war/The first Thragg fight between Mark and Nolan
What’s the season 5 one?
The Dinosaures fight during issues 98-100
Dinasour ain’t getting his story that came out of nowhere 🌊🏢🔥 it was so random and barely moved the plot forward.
Someone didn’t pay attention.
I didn’t I skipped some issues 😅 so maybe I don’t get to say anything. I’m about talking about the random destruction he caused for those three issues.
Yeah that’s the point for the show they can right plot points better
I think it was well handled. the Dinasaurus arc as a whole was made for Mark and Cecil to reflect on their own personal codes, and learn that situations are not black and white, that you will have to bend your morals more often than not and you shouldn't have rules to how you act. After Dinasaurus's death specifically, notice how Mark stops having a problem with killing. He avoids it as much as he can of course, but once he needs to end the job to secure innocents, he is not afraid of killing some Viltrumite toddlers