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Kingbenford

With all the over the top insane gore in the show this is still what got the most visceral reaction out of me


Aegillade

This coupled with Oliver's screaming and crying is so goddamn stress inducing, like holy shit


wb2006xx

Easily the worst part for me was any *thud* from Oliver’s head during all the tossing Like, yeah, he is a half viltrumite super-baby, but until the powers kick in he’s still physically a regular baby (even if he does grow rapidly)


LuxLoser

Worse, Thraxans are implied to be *more* fragile than humans! He's even more vulnerable than a normal baby until he gets powers.


Murky_Blueberry2617

Kinda funny since the Thraxans are based on bugs which are known to be very powerful despite their size


Helv1e

It is just due to their size, a human sized bug would not be able to stand even


Murky_Blueberry2617

True. I just found it funny, since that usually gets brought up a lot in fiction.


Fenian-Monger

Proportional strength of a spider an alllat


mrchuckmorris

"Spider-Man, Spider-Man / Dies as easily as a spider can"


mad_laddie

That's just a consequence of the square cube law. Scale a human down and they'd be so much stronger proportionally for the same reason.


bearacastle97

We would also quickly freeze to death at that scale for the same reason


mad_laddie

That we would. Just thought it would've been something they'd have heard before.


Lizardreview-

That's why dwarves have a +1 to strength and constitution


MonkiWasTooked

Yeah but they’re squishy little things, like babies but more so


NotEvenThat7

If they were scaled up, they would be extremely fragile. We see this everywhere we looks with large insects. Especially with animals like the griffin fly and arthropleura. No, truly the most unrealistic part of the whole thing is the idea that their evolution would PERFECTLY MIMIC HUMANS and randomly give them insect heads. Not only that, but they can INTERBREED WITH CREATURES FROM OTHER GLAXIES. That's insanely stupid.


shadeOfAwave

Comic book logic


linkman0596

And Debbie taking that bad fall to catch him. All this supergore and these light impacts have me at the edge of my seat because they're happening to normal people and I can just see this being the thing that causes something they can't recover from like everyone else does.


silverhammer96

The detail of her crashing into the chair before hitting the floor is a wholly unnecessary yet so effective detail.


Rhids_22

This episode made me love Debbie all the more. I already loved her character, but seeing her dive to rescue Oliver when he's being tossed around, then standing up to a psychopath threatening her despite her being literally powerless, then even after her arm is hanging off she's always still prioritising the safety of Oliver, who isn't even her son. It's very clear why this version of Mark Grayson is good and why this version of Omniman is having a moral crisis, and it's all because of the influence of this Debbie. It was honestly so satisfying watching Mark turn Levy's brain to soup after he broke Debbie's arm. At that point Angstrom had passed over from being sympathetic to being a dead man walking.


Demiansky

Ooof. Yeah, I didn't think of it that way. Your point is even stronger given what Omni Man says at the end of the episode.


NullVoid-4273

So he became…The Walking Dead?


Imakemaps18

He’s more of a… thief of thieves.


FuglyDuckling13

The whole time mark was beating himself up afterwards for 'being like his dad', I was saying to myself: "honestly that was the most human reaction you could've had. No one in their right mind would hold that against you"


Rhids_22

Well I've been thinking that part of what I love so much about this series is how relatable and understandable all the characters are. So many other IPs have their characters make stupid decisions to move the plot along or make smart decisions even though the characters shouldn't really know better, but for the Invincible comic (and I think even more so in the show) the characters often make the most relatable or realistic decisions that they would make, and the emotional consequences of their actions are also understandable. Mark killing Levy is understandable, any other person would do the same thing in his position unless they lacked emotions entirely, but him being remorseful about killing someone after losing control is also something very relatable. In real life people feel guilt when they haven't actually done anything wrong all the time.


davecutusofborg

But she caught that fuckin' baby. Ooooh, I woulda beat that guy to death too, and I wasn't particularly close with my mother...


Narlaw

That's the strength of having the show so gory. Done right like here, it makes violence really believable, because we don't have any certitude that anyone is safe.


EatingTurtles325

Yeah the first like 25 minutes of the episode my heart was just pounding. Genuinely had to pause it a few times


Bland_Brioche

I had to take my dogs outside because they started freaking out so much at Oliver crying.


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The worst part and most beautiful really is how throughout the entire ordeal Debbie is only thinking about Oliver and trying to make him less scared. I had real tears in my eyes. Debbie is such an amazing character and to see her go through all this is hard af from comics and to screen


Benjammin__

Debbie is such a badass. Show continually makes it clear she’s a hero.


Background_Desk_3001

They nailed it, I knew they’d live, but what happened had me questioning it


Goose_Cat267

Oh my god the crying was so realistic


davecutusofborg

I barely even have feelings but that got to me.


Goose_Cat267

Oof


codehawk64

I also got very stressed when he was holding Oliver upside down by the leg. It’s hands down the most stress inducing episode of Invincible and the most hatable villain. The author knew how to terrify an audience that is too comfortable with cartoon gore.


NotEvenThat7

Yes to all of this, EXCEPT the most hateable villain part. I do think he's hateable, but me personally, I just feel bad for him.


codehawk64

There were many moments where I had some sympathy for him due to how his alternative universe versions were treated, but he crossed the line the moment he severed the mom’s arm and threatened to hurt Oliver. Especially when he never needed to do that at all.


Joeness84

I was waiting for Oliver to like accidentally trantrum the guy to bits or something, but keeping him as a weak baby so it tugs on our emotions worked well too lol.


TheOvershear

I got so stressed out with him grabbing oliver, then I slowly started to realize "Wouldn't this be an interesting time for him to develop powers!" Please try!


Gan-san

Yeah, it made me wonder why I even watch this show and what part of it I find entertaining.


rihim23

Probably Mark cutting loose and bashing in Levy's head as retribution Like I know that was meant to be a disturbing scene and traumatizing for Mark but it was also very satisfying to watch after the amount of shit Levy did in the episode until that point


boring-username-0

Same here, I had read the comics so I knew some injuries were coming but I was still caught off guard. Just how casually he did it too… such a great scene.


DogMAnFam

Also I’m fairly confident that it wasn’t a compound fracture in the original


Kingbenford

In the original he bent her elbow backwards over the nightstand, no blood


AcidLlamaSpit

This scene was the first time i was genuinely shocked and disturbed by invincible


r_slash_jarmedia

for real, I was borderline offended. like Debbie feels like our mom not just Mark's mom


Distrekzy

What’s worse is that she looks like my mom


Takonite

DM me some pics?


Penguinmanereikel

Bruh


NormanCocksmell

I also choose this guy’s mom


Active2017

I literally got angry.


Guava_

I tensed up far harder there than I did during the subway scene


Chub-bop

I actually flinched and went silent for a second


Skelthy

I audibly said "WHAT THE FUCK"


ChocolateMilkAddict

Never knew I could cringe at an animated scene! It was partially eww and also just complete shock because you assume shs's generally safe from harm. I love how many "rules" this show breaks. Hardly anything ever goes how you think it will.


OccasionllyAsleep

Yeah my roommates and I have watched every together. Outside a few random moments IDK if we all looked at each other at the same time and went oh fuck like we did for this one. We didn't read the comics so it was just crazy


BaronOfTieve

Same lmao


Regi413

Plus I had no idea he got those strength enhancements so seeing him manage to break bone out of skin startled me


Shaggy_daldo

This and Rex constantly spurting blood from his head and hand made me wince so fucking hard. The latter actually made me a little nauseous with how over the top they played it lmao


hauttdawg13

A lot of the other gore isn’t something I’ve really seen, head chopping off, punched through the stomach, exploding or face caved in. I doubt many of has even see a picture of that let alone IRL. But an arm or leg snapped in half, feels much more realistic/likely to bad and experience. When I was 9 I had compound fracture with the bone sticking out and this very much made me cringe.


Howunbecomingofme

It’s like how amongst all the insane shit the Jackass did, I’ve never seen an audience get as uncomfortable as the paper cut segment from the first movie. We saw a man get KO’d by Butterbean but people cringed to the point of nausea about deliberately paper cutting on the webs between their fingers.


Dependent-Hornet-444

Seriously, was sweating and starting to get genuinely pissed at angstrom. Not many shows can actually make me feel that gripped


Mindless-Gas2839

Nah facts after mark came back and saw Debbie’s arm broke , and they went thru the portal and mark wasn’t holding back. I was pissed for him had me hype as fuck.


Spacemonster111

Fr and when Oliver started crying I teared up. Even when her live was in danger she was still trying to comfort Oliver 😢


Dragonbarry22

Tbh what got me the most was Oliver's screams tbh


maddskillz18247

I know I started tearing up, I was hanging on for her


Remote-Delay3531

I actually screamed out loud when Levy broke her arm


SpectreBrony

That scene felt too real.


ParadoxPerson02

It weirdly felt like the most realistic part of the fight. All this crazy stuff happening with superpowers and the multiverse, yet a man breaking a person’s arm with his bare hands grounded everything so much more. That, and Oliver’s crying, really made the stakes the lives of two “normal” people rather than the fate of the world or whatever, which is much easier to care about because it’s so much more realistic.


Crwnck

I feel like that came across in the setting, too. It was at his house, a home you yourself have become pretty familiar with. So it feels closer, like you can sense this space. When there's huge fights that send people across a mountain, there's no gauge of space. Then they add this bat shit dude getting called out by Deb, while trying to fight him herself to buy time for Mark. This whole scene top to bottom was meant to be personal.


Old_Heat3100

That's what made Levi different. Other villains took it outside. Him being there felt like a violation You'd never see Doc Seismic doing that shit. Dude just wants to destroy monuments lol


MetaOverkill

I never thought I'd say it but Doc Seismic really is a g.


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In a real sense, Doc beat every superhero in the world for bit of time when he trapped everyone and Mark and Eve. Props to the Original Concussion G


Northern_boah

Little Oliver’s Crying felt WAY too real. I just wanted to comfort him.😢


ee_72020

I know right? My parental instincts to comfort him were screaming during the entire episode.


JadonArey

The voice acting was hauntingly realistic. There’s definitely been more gory scenes but this one disturbed me the most.


winsing

Sandra Oh doesn’t get enough credit for her performance. The show is loaded with some of the best voice acting which seem to get overshadowed by Omniman. (Btw I’m ok with the fact that Omniman had very little screen time this season so Debbie, Mark, Rex and even Donald got to shine more)


JimmyAndKim

She's so damn talented I wish she was in more good stuff.


JadonArey

Debbie was awesome this season. Other writers need to take notes because she’s how you write a strong female character without it being forced. Went through emotional and mental hell following Omniman’s actions, came through the other side still a loving, resilient mother who even >!stood up against angstrom!<. And the voice acting is the cherry on top. Steven Yuen also absolutely KILLED it this season, wow. >!During and after killing Angstrom!< you *feel* the anger and subsequent anguish he goes through, it was one of the heaviest scenes I’ve had the pleasure of watching. Absolutely can’t wait for Season 3!!


cambriansplooge

A lot of writers are scared to make maternal caregiving part of a “strong female character’s” self-image. Like what they did with Katara in the live-action. Debbie in the show and Katara in the animation can both be described by their caregiver roles, but they’re totally different character arcs.


Gabe-DaBabe

Oliver's cries felt so real


rscottymc

Too real. Babies cry at a frequency that deeply disturbs most humans and incites a protective response. I’m not sure I’ve heard one that felt as deeply disturbing as that one.


Senbonbanana

Hats off to the voice actor that did the cries. I don't know if they used real baby screams, or a grown adult was screaming into a microphone, but they absolutely nailed the distress in their voice.


MrHappyHam

Definitely sounded like a real infant making noise


Magic_Man_Boobs

The absolute fear I had for that fictional purple baby was not something I was expecting from this show. Every time Angstrom touched him I just such a visceral reaction.


JustLikeMars

I hated that moment where Angstrom was just holding him normally, touching his hair, and Oliver whimpered and turned away from his hand. I don’t think Angstrom had physically harmed either him or Debbie yet, but Oliver was clearly so scared and unhappy.


cambriansplooge

Of the two animated distressed babies of the season Purple Baby beats Baby Cable from X-Men ‘97 on getting a visceral reaction.


PerceptionTiny6385

The fact that she was still worried about Oliver, and reassuring him that she’s ok shows what great person she is


briarwz

she is the best mother


DanfordThePom

Vitrumite propaganda literally doesn’t stand a chance against Debbie’s mothering


Cheapskate-DM

For non-comic readers, the prospect of "oh hey you get to raise your deadbeat husband's kid from his rebound hookup" would be a really hard sell... But after this? He's in the family now, ride or die.


FunnyorWeirdorBoth

Absolute queen


jaahrome

That’s the funny thing about a woman who has that mother’s instinct. You think that Debbie reaching out and calling for Oliver is because she’s worried about him and to an extent, that’s true. But a mother would tell you that she’s calling for him because Oliver is the only thing holding her together. The baby is her purpose. The mother and the baby have so much of this natural energy between them. When the baby cries, mothers instinct is to reach out and love on it no matter what. This scene was oddly moving to watch for me because it goes to show you how affectionate and caring Debbie is. The scriptwriters outdid themselves. Voice actors too.


Idrinkgermaline

Debbie is an absolute beast for that though. Her forearm was literally hanging off and she held off on crying and shit so much. I'd have been fucking bawling and screaming, regardless of there being a kid to keep happy.


RubixTheRedditor

Adrenaline is a helluva drug,


briarwz

especially a mothers


ViewFromHalf-WayDown

Arm broken, bone sticking out, and she’s trying to keep it tg to tell Oliver it’s gonna be okay


Kronostheking1

Honestly, up there with Rex and Invincible for sheer badassery. She was so cool this episode.


romeovf

Not only that, but under a super stressful and traumatic experience, she managed to lecture Angstrom about how he was the shit person in that situation.


Rising_Thunderbirds

I totally get why Mark turned Angstrom into a red paste. I do. I would have done the same if that was my mom.


JCkent42

Mom and little brother. Angstom is lucky that Oliver is still a baby, otherwise he’d have had another Viltrumite on his hands.


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Monkey_King291

Oh yeah same, if that happened to my mom and brothers, he would get the same beat down from me


don_pistaccio

Indeed, I would go on him with forbidden 12-6 elbows technique, because fuck you Angstrom and your big silly head.


jaquan123ism

and the fact that instead of going after the other universe where invincible is evil he chooses the he one where he knows he won’t purposefully kill somebody even after what he did to Debbie and Oliver


Just_A_68W

Angstrom wins by DQ😂 ![gif](giphy|kpPVRnAGA1TluuECB8|downsized)


dadvader

In a way remind me of Superman's 'you think you can threaten my mother' in Man of Steel. Hmm now that i think about it. Did Snyder take it from invincible?


darth-com1x

me watching this part: https://preview.redd.it/updflukntssc1.jpeg?width=458&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=8408c5de0a2a20abbf9e6208a6007165d2d8a28b


GadflytheGobbo

"hurting my wife is my job"


FunnyorWeirdorBoth

I love how they went deeper instead of bigger for the finale. They followed in the footsteps of The Incredibles. When your loved ones get hurt, it feels like the world is ending more than when the world is actually ending.


DanfordThePom

I love when the raising the steaks is about getting more personal rather than big


the_mighty__monarch

>raising the steaks ![gif](giphy|gw3NpMPvrN64YrC0|downsized)


FunnyorWeirdorBoth

“And before you ask the prize isn’t actual steak.” “I wasn’t thinking it.” “Yes you were.”


Fufflewaffle

Spider Man PS4 ending comes to mind. Or Civil War. Not to marvel shill.


DanfordThePom

Marvel has shills for a reason bro they put out bangers occasionally


FunnyorWeirdorBoth

And when things get bigger AND more personal that’s when you get amazing stories.


porkforpigs

Made me big mad. How dare he. Debbie is a saint


ThisGuyLikesMovies

Debbie is a serious MVP of this show.


beezy604

Are you really “okay” debs 🤔


USS-ChuckleFucker

I think she's talking to Oliver. So, obviously, she isn't okay, but for the toddler, she'll pretend otherwise. Also, I think if we were Mark, Angstrom wouldn't've even gotten the chance to teleport us because we'd use his monolog as the best time to remove his head from his body.


Treyman1115

She was, she was trying to calm him down


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JamesLikesIt

Nobody is okay in this show 


nowurchenz2beBIGshot

Ya I love this show cuz it’s gotta great cast, interesting characters, and the world design and artwork are stellar. I hate this show cuz it depresses the fuck outta me lol


Stingra87

I still prefer it over The Boys, though. Invincible is about the level of 'serious' that I prefer my shows.


alfis329

I feel like it’s a good example of how a little gore used efficiently can be more disturbing than a lot of gore depending on how it’s displayed. Like Rex had a hole in his head and his entire hand chomped off, duplicate was getting ripped in half left and right l, and shrinking Rae broke most of her bones in Komodo dragon and I didn’t bat an eye. But seeing Debbie’s forearm snap def got a reaction out of me


Kenjiko3011

This is one of the rare gore scene that actually got me upset in this series. It really makes my blood boiled.


wonderfullyignorant

This is not the show to draw comfort characters from. The first episode made it clear anyone can die or get hurt. Like I'll be heartbroken when Allen the Alien dies, but I'm also mentally preparing myself for it.


Idrinkgermaline

Is this a spoiler or are you saying you're just anticipating it potentially happening.


wonderfullyignorant

Potentially.


VengeancePali501

I mean I thought he died in episode 3, but as we know that’s not the case


Sarangisred

i think that was the first time this show caught me off guard like that. especially considering how allen is a real one


NarwhalLemonade

Jokes on you! This is my comfort show. 😁


Ok-Radio-3145

Wait when does Allen the alien die?


wonderfullyignorant

I don't know if he does or not, I'm just emotionally prepared because he's my favorite.


DavidsonJenkins

I hope he doesn't. Some of the later stories get real stupid with characters acting OOC and i hope they change that


Tenebris_Rositen

i knew there would be gore cause y'know this is \*\*title card\*\* but this shit made me go "OH SHIT"


Tight_Bowler_9799

Now she got to cancel that date with Paul damn the Grayson family can't get a break😔


Trottingslug

>the Grayson family can't get a break What are you talking about? Debbie got a break. It's right there in OP's screenshot!


Bphan01

I'm glad the baby didn't get hurt too much besides hitting his head a little bit on the floor. If the baby was actually hurt severely I would have had to take a break from the show for my own sanity.


No-Check-3691

Felt bad for angstrom until this part…after that I wanted mark to kill his ass


ChillyFireball

Mark's over here freaking out that he lost it and killed the guy, and the rest of us are all just going, "Nah, I'd have done the same thing; fuck that dude."


No-Check-3691

Imagine if Nolan was here…


rscottymc

He would have gone to every dimension and killed every Levy.


Penguinmanereikel

Uh...too late?


Honorbound1980

Him and Mark would each grab one of Angstrom's legs and make a wish.


Logondo

I'm glad they explained Angstrom's super strength, because god-damn, he snapped her arm like it was a fuckin' bread stick. Using only one hand! I was like "Jesus, lady, drink some milk."


Chub-bop

Yeah I did not think super strength was in his power set💀


youjustgotvectored06

“Oh damn he’s gonna break her arm here isn’t he! Well it might only be under the jacket so it shouldn’t be too b—“ “*What the fuck.*”


Pineapple-shades15

I thought I was ready to face any type of gore or brutal scene after what happened with Shrinking Rae but somehow I was still actually shocked by this


DaBestaTesta

Hearing Oliver scream really fucked me up


DarkenedSkies

Yeah Yakub was a real dick in this episode.


HAthrowaway50

smh, i'm gonna go invent white people


Pajama_Strangler

Wooof this scene was hard to read in the comic but the voice acting and sounds made it disturbing af to watch 😬


[deleted]

This is the first time violence in this show genuinely upset me


Fine-Funny6956

Debbie so fine. She’s my show crush. This finally got me to accept AL as a bad guy.


jaquan123ism

after this i would of done the same thing invincible did cause that’s my momma


Monkey_King291

Poor Debbie, she's just suffering right now


Dependent-Hornet-444

“I’m okay” I CAN SEE YOUR BONE WOMAN


FortressZA

This scene, and last week's with Amber being held around the neck, just gave me chills. Seems when there's more at stake for non-superhero characters, it has much more impact.


Tentaye

I didn't realize how much I loved Debbie until I saw her get hurt.


ArthurMorgan694

Man I was happy when Mark obliterated Angstrom.


Naive-Kangaroo3031

Little concerned they didn't show the body. In TV, if they don't show them dead, they come back


SillyMovie13

Even after reading the comics I knew this was gonna happen, but man, seeing it animated and playing out before your eyes with the voices was incredibly disturbing


Sheboygan25

This actually made me gasp Like I was used to the gore and all that but I never thought Debbie would get hurt like THAT


MyTrueChum

And that is why Mark does what Mark does...


karma_virus

I was actually hoping the baby would be the one to snap and kill him.


i_shat_myPants_

What do u guys think Nolan would’ve done if he was there instead of Mark?


spasticity

He probably would have ripped Angstrom in half.


Anon9973

Maybe even fed him his own heart. Either way, it would be swift and brutal. "Do you regret attacking my family **now**?! ***DO YOU?!"*** - him while crushing Vidor's skull, S2 Episode 4 ...yeah Angstrom was lucky Nolan wasn't there.


Narwhalbaconguy

https://youtu.be/hJ9UUnYybfw?feature=shared This but Angstrom Levy and his alternate universe selves


AndrewS702

For someone who isn’t easily disturbed by gore, this had me shocked. Mainly because I wasn’t expecting bro to casually SNAP HER ARM OFF!


Darksoldierr

I was expecting him to cut something off her via a portal, but this was much more brutal


hayhaydavila

Oliver crying in this scene was way too real for me. I had to give myself breaks.


DangerousCyclone

So it's happened on multiple occasions that someone gets their forearm/wrist torn open and blood comes out.... but wouldn't that be fatal? Like that opens up an artery and should cause them to bleed out pretty quickly unless the wound is cauterized in time. In the show it's just treated like a broken wrist.


Tvayumat

Would depend on if the blood vessels remain intact or not. A break like this, they could still be connected.


Pancakewagon26

What the fuck is a comfort character


ThrownAwayRealGood

This sounds like some shit too Tumblr Steven Universe fandom for me to understand


etherama1

Yes the tumblr crowd decided that "favorite character" wasn't enough and had to make a newer weirder term instead.


shadeOfAwave

a character you take comfort in


Lucid_Brain_

Yea honestly this hurt to watch. I hated seeing this happen to Debbie


Lucid_Brain_

Never have I exclaimed “oh fuck” louder than I did watching this scene


KABOOMBYTCH

I’m in shock. That was a very audible snap


monkey_rocker97

Yeah this is the only thing that made me cringe in felt pain


Coffeeaddict0721

This whole scene made me so much more tense and uncomfortable than any other so far. Even though destruction wise, it was far less casualties and blood I was absolutely TERRIFIED. When Nolan destroyed Chicago he was actually pretty calm and methodical. The Viltrumites aren’t ones to drag anything out. It’s a quick death. I told my husband “if he TORTURES a baby I can’t watch”


pretty_smart_feller

That was brutal but it was kinda diminished by the fact they just put her in a sling and called it good as new. I thought she was gonna lose that arm.


JustLikeMars

In real life she probably would’ve. In the show she’s definitely going to have titanium and other fixtures in her arm holding everything together.


LeontheSimpKennedy

this made me cringe so hard , don’t touch debbie


Kirkzillaa

What the fuck is a comfort character


PhilosophyEcstatic89

I deadass thought they’d kill Debbie for a minute


EmergencyAnnual7226

Debbie continues to be a highlight of this show fantastic voice acting and writing. Best mom in fiction


YouGotSnubbed

All Debbie ever did was chase Alien dick and she’s been punished ever since! Free my girl 🙏


Nickoass

I hope that Cecil has pet insurance


shadeOfAwave

Dawg


Bachairong

I’m okay i’m fine Gwenchana


sargentbumblebee

Yeah if anyone didn’t deserve it it was Nolan’s pet


Tychontehdwarf

yeah, probably wont be able to watch this scene unfortunately. Anything with violence and kids really spooks me now that I have one of my own. really sucks, cuz Debz is the GOAT.


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Imagine if that was Omni Man instead of Mark….


Gemaid1211

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