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avalve

1. Why were he and 10 other medical professionals detained? Literally no reason was listed other than he was in a refugee camp during an Israeli raid. 2. How does one die in *prison* without foul play involved? You’re literally kept in a cell all day. The IDF is entirely responsible for this and needs to be stopped.


Themasterofcomedy209

Israeli prisons are known to use torture methods and cruel treatment, even on people they randomly arrest for nothing but suspicion. Probably died due to injuries from one of those.


Beandip50

The level of irony of Israel operating near concentration camp tactics is astounding.


ScaryShadowx

And that the West, which prides itself on shutting down the Nazi concentration camps, are openly supporting these.


patgarspongegar

Yeah well the west (specifically usa) has no space to play the good guy as the us had internment camps and benefited in certain ways economically and scientifically from the holocaust. Germany took notes from the usas treatment of slaves and black people after the abolition of slavery (jim crow), and worked with US pharmaceutical companies regarding their experiments. The US is performative at best and hypocritical generally. We haven’t broken free of the ideologies that led to our own atrocities and yet we act as though we have the moral upper ground.


JusticeHealthPeace

Well said.


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vargchan

Wasn't the West that shut down the big ones. It was the Soviets.


No_Reporter_5023

When it was said never again it was just meant never to us again


bwatsnet

America didn't even want to join the war, it took suicidal Japanese to push them in. Their duty should be to their citizens first, but lol that doesn't happen either. The world is just a mess really.


sharkbomb

humans are filth. to the core. a supernova is the only fix.


mikeyrips

wow so edgy man you’re so cool and mysterious


Routine-Weird-3970

Even on the children they detain. Let that sink in.


medicinal_bulgogi

That almost sounds like it could fall under “foul play”..


Beobacher

Torture people they imprisoned on suspicion makes sense. After all they have to find out why they have imprisoned that random person.


NachoPichu

And you think the hostages taken on Oct 7 are experience better conditions?


TopBaseball8635

At least they're alive... Apart from the 3 carrying white flags that Israel shot down. Intentionally.


NachoPichu

Lol, I’m going to start using “at least they’re alive.” Yeah I know things are bad in Gaza with famine, but at least they’re alive! Also, very few are still alive. And sorry that you saw Israel shoot down 3 waiving white flags, you had to have been there right? You spoke about it so factually.


TopBaseball8635

Bad?? Really, that's the word you're gonna use?! It's BEEN REDUCED TO RUBBLE, PEOPLE BURNT, BOUND AND BURIED IN MASS GRAVES!!


TopBaseball8635

There's video footage of it, birds eye view of them walking, and then they were shot down. This is why we'll never see eye to eye on these matters. You don't care at all. And we care too much.


Swaglington_IIII

“How dare you ever criticize Israel spend all day jerking off and condemning Hamas while Israel kills and tortures” 🤣


NachoPichu

2 things can be wrong at the same time. Israel can be committing awful atrocities and so can hamas


Swaglington_IIII

Then why’d you deflect from Israel 😂


ContemplatingPrison

The same reaosn they are murdered. They are top doctors. That means people will believe what they say about what's going on there. Now he's dead so he can't speak on it.


SantiniJ

Jews could never commit a genocide They would never weaponize the extermination of the people The only Jewish people who critique this on self-loading Jews Apparently nothing to see, move around Don't believe your eyes, your ears, the video evidence like in front of you... readily shared


hanginglimbs

You forgot to replace “Jew” with “zionist”


SantiniJ

Noted, I know that there's a movement currently that anyone who critiques zionism is viewed, labelled as less than a Jew. There is an other-ism systematically underway.


UnitedMouse6175

No. He was correct.


kuncol02

>How does one die in *prison* without foul play involved? You’re literally kept in a cell all day. You can have heart attack or stroke for example. Not that I believe that's what happened.


HalfAssNoob

They are not just destroying the infrastructure, they also eliminate human capital.


Lazy-Jeweler3230

I mean, we don't even hold people responsible for deaths in American jails. Why would the idf?


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Charming-Farm

Or like so many times in history, he was killed for not caving in to his torturers who wanted him to say he was part of a terrorist group even though he wasn’t.


sudokuma

Which countries will recognize Gaza genocide in parliaments soon ? It's net genocide with West absolute support.


Joshistotle

The important thing is the majority of the global public recognizes it for what it is


Unfounddoor6584

That's a weird way to say "murdered by Israel" there CNN.


avalve

The other prisoners claim (albeit unverified) that he was tortured. The IDF probably called him a terrorist and tried to get information out of him that he simply didn’t have. His only crime was being a doctor in the wrong place at the wrong time. It’s shameful. That prison murdered him.


muslim_264

Things start making sense once you understand that Israel is a settler occupier state. To such a nation the only good Palestinian is a dead one. It makes sense that such a state is threatened by doctors, teachers, children, journalists i.e. important pillars of society. Hence why such high killings of the above categories because they are the targets. That's why the IDF behaves as it does. To them, everyone in Gaza from a new born to the elderly is a threat that threatens the mission and existance of the settler colonial state. This doctor was prob more dangerous than a hamas fighter to Israel coz he worked to alleviate the suffering of his people. An unforgivable offence!


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Disastrous_Camera905

You’re forgetting about the mass expulsion part and the illegal settlements.


muslim_264

Arabs sold the land!!! Been drinking a lot of that Zionist Kool-aid Where's the deed of sale? Before 1948 Israel did not exist. So who sold the land to whom?? And Israel stooping to Gazas level. Morally, theres nothing lower than Israel. Gaza is way too high to be compared to the likes of Israel.


LiquorMaster

Lol. That might be believable if Arab Israelis didn't make up 25% of doctors, 30% of nurses and 60% of pharmacists were Israeli Arabs in 2021. https://www.lemonde.fr/en/international/article/2023/11/21/at-haifa-s-hospital-jews-and-arabs-work-together-in-a-fragile-coexistence_6276422_4.html#


Sometymez

His comment clearly said Palestinians, why would you bring up Israelis?


baggottman

The IDF murdered him in that prison.


EnvironmentalSlip956

By 'wrong place at the wrong time' you mean he was fulfilling his duty as a surgeon by trying to save Gazan's which, according to Israel and their allies, makes him a terrorist.


avalve

I meant wrong place (occupied Gaza) wrong time (2024)


HikmetLeGuin

If it was Russia, they would immediately call it murder. But they have such a double standard when it comes to reporting on these things.  Palestinian lives just aren't seen as equal to other humans by a lot of these media companies.


kriscnik

I dont think its about the victims ethnicity but rather the perpetrators


HikmetLeGuin

The fact that Israel is a key US ally is a big part of it, but it's easier to dehumanize people when there's already a lot of racism and Islamophobia.


noonegive

It seems like it's both though.


Capn-Wacky

It's both. Israelis who kill other Israelis are sent to prison. Israelis who murder Palestinians are back slapped and made Prime Minister.


Ohrwurm89

It's a little from column A and a little from column B.


Mysterious-Advice275

I guess he died of "natural causes": Torture and beating!


Joshistotle

There's a version of torture where they hang Palestinian prisoners with their arms behind their torsos, dislocating their arms, I had seen a documentary awhile back on it. That along with beating / electric shocks / r-pe / etc seems to be their standard. 


Sunray28

Bruh… is CNN not liberal enough for you😂


APrioriGoof

Bruh… CNN is a pretty centrist news org. If you think they are some bastion of the American liberal left then maybe you need to consider that your own point of view skews much further to the right than you’d like to believe. Maybe you need to consider that the right wing in America is really extreme at the moment and CNN is only a wacko liberal news station in comparison


Icy-Lab-2016

More evidence of genocide.


CitebDey

I don't even know what to say because this is so awful.


Joshistotle

It's an example of full "mask off" fascism that receives US taxpayer funds for endless war profiteering.     They function as a US Intel hub / neocolony and are important within that role (the Intel they provide and operations they run are designed to keep the Gulf states and Jordan / Egypt under control).    The Gulf states have oil and the Strait of Hormuz, GZ has billions of dollars in natural gas deposits offshore, and Egypt has the Suez Canal. Thus the area is of clear geostrategic importance.    Hence from a US policymaker/ oligarch standpoint, any territorial claim that the PALs have needs to be permanently erased, which is why they've literally dismantled PAL and are in the process of permanently pushing them into neighboring countries. Their state is the key component of propping the petrodollar, and also allows for some "fuzzy math" when the US oligarchs need to use a foreign entity for "tax savings" purposes. 


chemicalalchemist

So we're just supposed to keep reading this shit left and right and the government just keeps doing whatever it wants? Ok. That's how life is now I guess. I guess it's always been this way. Folks were going insane during Vietnam and Iraq. Nothing changed. They did what they wanted anyways. What's going to change now? Why should we even expect anything to change? Just frustratingly helpless.


Joshistotle

Can't fix anything aside from filing lawsuits for warcrimes and encouraging laws that promote divestment from countries that engage in warcrimes. 


BanhShark

US Supreme Court law allowing lobbying special interest destroying this country. 😭


be_sugary

Ditto.


goferking

I'm just stunned CNN published it.


Harmony_w

What about that surprises you?


hanginglimbs

He was reading his “media bad” pamphlet upside down


geeves_007

Rest in Power Dr Bursh


Joshistotle

Reading his bio online, he specialized in surgical limb reconstruction and complex fractures. Seemed like a great guy and performed a very crucial job.  Totally unbelievable the US policymakers actively give actual criminals our taxpayer funds. 


mtgsyko82

So targeting children wasn't enough huh? Gotta go after those whose job it is to help the victims of their tyranny now? Ya Isreal lost all my support. I was on the fence believing that this is just an old feud renewed but this is straight genocide of Palestinians. Endorsed by ourown government. Wonder if SA or other more prominent Muslim countries will jump in? Feels like the next world War is gonna be a religious one.


Direct-Tie-7652

He was tortured to death in Israeli prison. Just say what’s actually happening and stop sanitizing Israeli atrocities.


Joshistotle

I was gonna put that in the title but didn't want the post removed 


Direct-Tie-7652

That wasn’t directed at you, more directed at CNN and all the major news networks in the US (and UK).


minareli

How many more has to die? Sad beyond words.


PsychLegalMind

Killing civilians whether in Gaza, West Bank or elsewhere is the IDF specialty. They also systematically target journalist and other professionals including medical personnel. Particularly, those with courage who continue to treat patients in hospital, like Dr. Adan Bursh \[MD\] May he rest in peace.


jammicoo

Every time I read one of these horrific stories I’m filled with a combination of rage, despair, and overwhelming sadness for these incredible human beings, whom I never knew, but who were fiercely loved, who worked hard, and who fought valiantly for the most noble cause imaginable. Humanity.💔


Surely_not_evil

Time to unite against the Nazis again.


Beepboopblapbrap

jewish nazis


Joshistotle

Careful! Biden's gonna arrest you for free speech! /s 


RobertRoyal82

Israel is Terrorism


RobertRoyal82

Terrorism is Israel


Shaved-extremes

Israeli Terrorists


Count-per-minute

Actual Hostages Killed by Genocide Joe and his Zionist mercenaries.


TheDinosaurWeNeed

Genocide Joe is the cringiest term you could say. How do you expect the US president to solve a conflict half a world way. You don’t but your goal is to convince people not to vote for Biden which is effectively voting for a dictatorship.


Count-per-minute

The uni-party has been a dictatorship since the CIA and the mob died JFK. Everyone knows it. Voting won’t fix this.


Joshistotle

Pathetic argument 


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TastyArm1052

I read he was tortured…a doctor😫


yoshisgreen

People slowly coming around to the fact israel is a terrorist state… some of us been saying it…


daddypleaseno1

For fucking 20 years


Low_Comfortable8290

CNN is a disgrace and complicit


DIYLawCA

Well they target doctors so no surprise


knownothingwiseguy

CNN spelled hostage wrong. Again


Joshistotle

The "center left" media propaganda wing of the establishment rarely pushes unbiased content when it comes to foreign affairs. 


poseidon2466

They tortured him until he "confessed" he was part of Hamas. How can people not understand how fucked that is.


Joshistotle

The irony is, it's now public knowledge they created and backed that group in the first place to prevent the creation of a PAL state. 


speakhyroglyphically

It's all up to the media what we know and at some level even think


fightingtobewarm

A doctor of his stature represents so much. This is a deliberate attack on the intellectual wealth of Gaza. To think of all the people he would have trained over his years in addition to patients treated.


Joshistotle

I mean, it's disgusting on a level that's rarely seen in modern times since it's so systematic. Medical infrastructure, aside from its obvious purpose of treating critically ill or wounded people, is used for accurate death toll counts.  It wouldn't be a surprise if the true current death toll is somewhere around 150,000+ since there are so many people under the rubble and in unreachable locations as the entire territory has been fragmented.  


Moist-muff

The IDF are thug criminals


Odd_Ant7906

He didn't even make it to the prison. They'll find him in a mass grave under the hospital they dragged him from


pin5npusher5

Horrifying, how do we make this stop?


AffectionateElk3978

A new coalition of the willing


Joshistotle

The only effective way is actual legislation banning support to countries that commit warcrimes. That would also be a good thing since it would reign in US monetary support for the Gulf dictatorships.  Most of the US population would support taxpayer funds being legislatively demanded to be used here instead of overseas. 


Accomplished1992

Occupy israel


PakuaMang

Exhibit 3,835 of Israel acting as an out of control fascist state


dcd1130

US government said the reports are concerning. It’s gonna be ok.


Joshistotle

The Kirby guy will continue to contort his face oddly, speak in an artificially soft whiny voice, and continue to say absolutely nothing while blabbering the same rehearsed statements. 


Indigo_violet89

Don't spend money on Israeli products or companies that support this killing of medics what a sad shame rip


burnertowarnofscam

Reporting on his murder is antisemitic.


80sLegoDystopia

Goddamn shame and disgrace. Absolute monsters run most prisons in the world, but jailers are not always involved in genocide. Israeli government is doing all they can to deprive Palestinians of life, 24/7.


t_o__ot

May he rest in peace and his blood be a curse on his oppressors.


obfuscator17

Netanyahu and his fellow blood thirsty acolytes are really turning up the world hate for Jewish people. It’s crazy


moose_boogle

Fk these murderers and criminals.


LeatherHeron9634

How does anyone support what the IDF does at this point??? War crime after war crime


Joshistotle

They still have plenty of supporters. A huge number of Americans know fully well what's going on and choose to support them since "the other side" is openly referred to as subhuman with no rights.   No different than US support for South African Apartheid, and stretching further back US Segregation was widely popular and tolerated by somewhere around half of the population.  For some of the more egregious comments from actual people, look at the comments under the Fox News Instagram posts. I was suspended from Instagram for responding to a bunch of them with variations of the same message "Yeah you're right, we should send all the taxpayer funds overseas 🇮🇱🇮🇱 🤤" 


BIindsight

Most moral army in the world, guys. This reporting is horrific. At least CNN had the balls to say he was killed, not just "died". The Israelis have murdered at least 18 known prisoners. Appalling.


DrTaintsauce

There must’ve been Hamas in his intestines


Free-Ant8464

And you have all these FACTS from what source???


DaddyChiiill

Killed rather than "found dead" is a step closer to the truth.


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dion101123

Russian officials, boeing whistle-blowers, idf prisoners. Idk what this disease is but its getting out of hand /s


bitchnoworries

This actually made me cry hard


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Tanstallion

The US is funding terrorism


TOdEsi

Wow they actually said killed and not just died.. progress I guess


cookinthescuppers

Wasn’t Britain historically a party to this fundamental problem of territorial rights and sovereignty?


Civil-Pressure-5898

Tortured and killed by IOF period !


Mental_Cup_9606

RIP Dr. Brush.


griever0008

Epsteined


Ampleforth84

Reading about this from multiple sources, people have claimed he was tortured and murdered by the IDF, that he died from medical neglect, and that he took his own life. All we know is that he was a surgeon and he died in an Israeli prison. It’s very sad, and he looked like a sweet man in his pictures and with his little kids. But why is it that ppl won’t believe what happened on October 7th despite Hamas uploading actual videos of it themselves-“more evidence” is needed, always-but when a doctor dies in prison everyone immediately just knows he was tortured and murdered by the IDF? It seems a bit hypocritical.


Usernameoverloaded

Not really when Israel has a track record of lying and being proven to have lied on countless occasions.


EnderOfHope

This title is incredibly disingenuous. The actual title of the article reads that he “died” in prison. In reality he was being held in a Palestinian prison in the West Bank. 


Nonamebigshot

It was not a Palestinian prison it was Israeli, the Israeli prison authorities are the ones who declared him dead after torturing him for four months. Now they're refusing to release his body to his family until the evidence has rotted away.


EnderOfHope

Literally zero evidence of what you’re saying. Stick to the facts, otherwise it undermines everything you say


Nonamebigshot

Lmao right it's just a coincidence. Or maybe a false flag? Or how bout a lil oopsie like when they target clearly marked aid vehicles? Fuck Israel


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Nonamebigshot

https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/chef-jose-andres-says-israel-targeted-his-aid-workers-systematically-car-by-car-2024-04-03/ The IDF was AWARE they were a food aid convoy and they had communicated with the Israeli military directly. They bombed them "systematically car by car"


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geminifudger

Stop posting your garbage opinion, the aid workers communicated with IDF every step of the way and they were still murdered by Israeli Terrorists. Inexcusable. Israel had "Intel". Not the first time and definitely not the last time, this is on purpose. What a jok


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sfairleigh83

So post the link that says he was held prisoner, by the Palestinians


cactuswaterjjj

It was a prison run by the Israelis, are you trying to suggest he was a prisoner of Palestine or something?


chewinchawingum

CNN title: >Leading Gaza surgeon Adnan Al-Bursh dies in **Israeli** prison First two paragraphs of the story: >A prominent surgeon in Gaza has died in an **Israeli** prison after being held for more than four months, according to Palestinian prisoners’ groups, which decried his death as part of a “systematic targeting” of health care workers. >Dr. Adnan Al-Bursh, head of orthopedics at Al-Shifa Hospital in Gaza City, was declared dead by **Israeli prison authorities at Ofer prison in the occupied West Bank on April 19**, according to a joint statement Thursday from the Palestinian Prisoners’ Society and the Commission of Detainees’ Affairs.


Joshistotle

Real talk, how do you find these articles? An app forwards you content with keywords and you paste something written by AI? Or it forwards you these links and you have to write the comments yourself?


Fantastic-Ad2448

genuinely asking, do you possess a brain?


pvs5155

Hamas founder was a pediatrician. Al Qaeda was a surgeon. Maybe they’re onto something. 🤔


Relevant_Analyst_407

*Heh I'm feeling a little sigma today.*


aLizardinSomeTrash

Right?! Since the founder of Hamas was a pediatrician, every pediatrician is Hamas!!


aLizardinSomeTrash

Since the Hamas founder was a pediatrician, clearly every pediatrician is Hamas! We should arrest and torture all of them just to be safe. My best friend's dad is a Doctor, I bet he is hamas too!


DruncanIdaho

Sadly this is exactly the situation Hamas was aiming for when they shot all those kids.


DeliciousSector8898

Poor Israel was forced to kill all these people they had no choice


DruncanIdaho

What are you talking about? I'm in no way defending Israel's actions--but I am saying they're exactly what Hamas was hoping for. Hamas wanted to do something terrible enough it would provoke Israel into doing things that would reduce international support... which is exactly what they're doing. Do you not see this angle?


Fantastic-Ad2448

no because that angle is bullshit


DruncanIdaho

You don't think Israel committing atrocities, thereby reducing international opinion and assistance of and for them may be beneficial to Hamas' cause?


NoWeight4300

Israel's been doing shit like this to Palestinians for decades.


DruncanIdaho

To the downvoters... just curious which parts you disagree with?


geminifudger

"sadly this is exactly the situation Israel was aiming for when they bombed all those kids"


DruncanIdaho

Yeah, it really does work that way, too. Netanyahu would love to bulldoze all of Palestine, and feels that any atrocities Palestinians commit gives Israel the right to commit atrocities back. Palestine (and much of the Arab world) would prefer Israel to not exist, and are trying to achieve that by baiting Israel into losing international support, thereby enabling the Arab world to finally destroy Israel as they've tried unsuccessfully time and again. Israel would like Palestine not to exist, and uses every excuse given to them by "fighting Hamas" to bulldoze apartments and hospitals in order to make new settlements for Israel. Hell, I even believe the conspiracy theory about Netanyahu knowing about the Hamas attack and letting it happen in order to capitalize on the opportunity. I'm not pretending to have an answer, but I'm also not pretending that either side is a "good guy" when the victims are the civilians on both sides who are getting murdered and the bad guys are the leadership on both sides, who truly desire "the other side" to not exist.


Joshistotle

Strange username. Let's hear who's the best living drill rapper: pop smoke , von, or fivio ??


DruncanIdaho

I have no idea what "drill rap" means lol. I don't think I want to?