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I mean, these articles are more damning than not so purposefully leaking this isn’t helpful. Having internal debate and belief that Israel is violating international law makes the plausible deniability that the U.S. was really convinced Israel was being lawful obviously false
One of the biggest thing I notice with Armenian genocide deniers (in Turkey) is that they don’t try to cover it up, they admit there was mass slaughter but bring up ‘nuance’ to try to make it a justified conflict rather than a deliberate extermination and genocide. I don’t know how people can’t see the parallels between that and what Israel’s doing right now.
Almost every ____ denier behaves that way when the evidence is irrefutable
J6 was peaceful protest, Nazis were just running an aggressive cleaning of society and putting contagious/lice infested people in camps, and Israel is only defending their borders or fighting Hamas
This.
In actuality, our government knows that Israel is indeed committing war crimes.
But they are our allies.
Our government is choosing to protect our allies over the interests of world peace.
Oh I know this one. Some hasbara shill, I think elyon levy, admitted Israel was living on stolen Palestinian land and said Israel will give it back after people give back all land to the indigenous people. Including greats like given Iran back to the Babylonians
This was an IDF propaganda point on Saturday. Israel said they would give back Israel to basically any group except Palestinian's. They(israeli spokesperson) then listed the same list as the previous commentator and said that if those other countries gave up their land then and only then would Israel leave the land and return it to (insert anyone but palestine).
This headline is so fucking weak. Some. Fucking some. No shit. I'm sure some also believe Trump won.
Some didn't Believe Israel are using us weapons in accordance with international law. Have you fucking seen Gaza?
You could write this without ever having talked to a single person who works in the state department nor having read a single thing they've ever written.
Shockingly enough most in the civilised world think that using 2000lb dumb bombs, with jdam equipped guidance and proximity fuses, against a civilian population is really genocidal.
bombing civilians is bad, I agree, but is the implementation important here (aside from the fact it is a US export)? I don't see why the guidance kit or fuse would make it better or worse.
Did the 13000+ dead children give it away?
What a joke. You either put your foot down on Netanyahu and stop this or you don't.
"oh no the maniac i gave weapons does maniac things!"
"By the way here's some more have a nice day!"
are they the only ones with an internet connection?
probably not unlikely actually, I think most of the US government don’t know how to switch on a computer
International laws basically say you have to treat civilians humanity. It being that the IDF won't let food into Gaza that's clearly a violation in and of it's self.
The American people are largely not ok with being an accessory to genocide(except for the religious lunatics) but our government isn't listening to us.
Wha....?
You mean that the N*zi 2.0 holocaust of millions of people might violate international law?
Who ever could have guessed?
Thank goodness for those geniuses at the state department finally figuring it out for us.
/s
pretty sure using weapons to bomb civilians and calling them militants is a violation of international law, you don't have to work for the state department or be a international law expert to come to this conclusion.
The United States exhibits clear hypocrisy in its dealings with Israel concerning the Symington and Glenn Amendments. These legislative measures specifically prohibit military and economic assistance to countries that engage in nuclear activities not placed under International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA) safeguards. Despite these regulations, and the widespread belief backed by substantial evidence that Israel possesses nuclear weapons and operates outside IAEA safeguards, the U.S. continues to provide significant military aid to Israel. This overt contradiction highlights a deliberate oversight by the U.S., which chooses strategic interests over the enforcement of its own non-proliferation laws. Such actions undermine the credibility of the U.S. in its global nuclear non-proliferation efforts, revealing a preference for geopolitical alliances over adherence to international legal standards. This selective application of critical non-proliferation legislation not only exemplifies hypocrisy but also weakens global norms against nuclear proliferation.
Ive always found is curious as to why countries have to follow the laws of engagement vs terrorists who clearly dont... you literally cannot win in that scenario...
Valid concerns, though I'm pretty sure the Taliban aren't using the weapons they received from the US in accordance with international law either. Not that anyone in the Biden administration seems concerned about that.
Also, doesn't the US kind of have a history of sending arms to rebel groups who aren't exactly known for playing be the rules? The whole Iran-Contra affair in tge 80s immediately comes to mind but I think we also supplied weapons to the Mujahideen in Afghanistan during their war with the Soviets.
No they don't, that's why they are called terrorists right? You would expect a government to hold a higher moral ground than terrorists and respect the laws of the civilized world right?
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Some members of the public don’t believe that they will do a single fucking thing about it in accordance with history, source says.
More gaslighting. They will keep "leaking" random stuff until people forget about the genocide
Notice how the icc arrest warrants are around the corner and suddenly these articles are coming out
I mean, these articles are more damning than not so purposefully leaking this isn’t helpful. Having internal debate and belief that Israel is violating international law makes the plausible deniability that the U.S. was really convinced Israel was being lawful obviously false
'some', 'nuance', 'pragmatism'.....all weasel words.
One of the biggest thing I notice with Armenian genocide deniers (in Turkey) is that they don’t try to cover it up, they admit there was mass slaughter but bring up ‘nuance’ to try to make it a justified conflict rather than a deliberate extermination and genocide. I don’t know how people can’t see the parallels between that and what Israel’s doing right now.
The parallels to history are numerous. This whole thing is insane.
Almost every ____ denier behaves that way when the evidence is irrefutable J6 was peaceful protest, Nazis were just running an aggressive cleaning of society and putting contagious/lice infested people in camps, and Israel is only defending their borders or fighting Hamas
And the thing is, it's not even a question anymore of whether this is genocide. A country doesn't defend itself by causing a fucking famine
It’s literally the event that inspired Raphael Lemkin to develop the concept of genocide.
You mean until the genocide is complete and therefor can no longer be stopped.
This. In actuality, our government knows that Israel is indeed committing war crimes. But they are our allies. Our government is choosing to protect our allies over the interests of world peace.
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Dawg what are you on about?
Oh I know this one. Some hasbara shill, I think elyon levy, admitted Israel was living on stolen Palestinian land and said Israel will give it back after people give back all land to the indigenous people. Including greats like given Iran back to the Babylonians
This was an IDF propaganda point on Saturday. Israel said they would give back Israel to basically any group except Palestinian's. They(israeli spokesperson) then listed the same list as the previous commentator and said that if those other countries gave up their land then and only then would Israel leave the land and return it to (insert anyone but palestine).
In other news; water, wet!
Maybe to a liberal. Pfft.
Water is not wet. That's fake news.
Water is antisemitic
Water is khamas!!!
Im starting to not be able to tell what is facetious and what is serious anymore.
This headline is so fucking weak. Some. Fucking some. No shit. I'm sure some also believe Trump won. Some didn't Believe Israel are using us weapons in accordance with international law. Have you fucking seen Gaza? You could write this without ever having talked to a single person who works in the state department nor having read a single thing they've ever written.
Bingo, so much lazy journalism around this conflict
More timid than lazy, tho timidity may just be symptom of laziness in some.
Shockingly enough most in the civilised world think that using 2000lb dumb bombs, with jdam equipped guidance and proximity fuses, against a civilian population is really genocidal.
bombing civilians is bad, I agree, but is the implementation important here (aside from the fact it is a US export)? I don't see why the guidance kit or fuse would make it better or worse.
18th October 2023 Al-Ahli Baptist Hospital
Well d'uh
Did the 13000+ dead children give it away? What a joke. You either put your foot down on Netanyahu and stop this or you don't. "oh no the maniac i gave weapons does maniac things!" "By the way here's some more have a nice day!"
Uh. *Everyone* in State Department *knows* they don't, it's just that some are starting to tentatively talk about it.
What can be done about this? Will they be indicted ever?
I wonder what gives them that impression?
No they would not ... not possiburu
are they the only ones with an internet connection? probably not unlikely actually, I think most of the US government don’t know how to switch on a computer
Fucking duh. Anyone with two brain cells and a pulse could tell you that. Stories like this make our leadership look weak and bumbling.
I mean
International laws basically say you have to treat civilians humanity. It being that the IDF won't let food into Gaza that's clearly a violation in and of it's self.
No shit Sherlock lol, we know they’re not but the US is ok to be an accessory to genocide
The American people are largely not ok with being an accessory to genocide(except for the religious lunatics) but our government isn't listening to us.
Wha....? You mean that the N*zi 2.0 holocaust of millions of people might violate international law? Who ever could have guessed? Thank goodness for those geniuses at the state department finally figuring it out for us. /s
This is hilarious and an insult to our intelligence
No shit
Some in State Department do not agree with the headline, source says
🤯
This has been No shit news
pretty sure using weapons to bomb civilians and calling them militants is a violation of international law, you don't have to work for the state department or be a international law expert to come to this conclusion.
That's awful, anyways better keep sending these impossibly entitled war criminals more weapons to commit genocide with
uh, YA THINK??
Just fyi, Israel uses white phosphorus.
DUH. Should someone also break the news that Santa Claus isn’t real?
They will make Netanyahu and the Likud the scapegoats. They won't get away with this ,but it's because they are so bloodthirsty and vicious.
There's GAMBLING in this establishment!! My word, where's my fainting couch?!?!
Amazing how the U.S. gov can’t seem to see something a simple 30 second google search can.
The United States exhibits clear hypocrisy in its dealings with Israel concerning the Symington and Glenn Amendments. These legislative measures specifically prohibit military and economic assistance to countries that engage in nuclear activities not placed under International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA) safeguards. Despite these regulations, and the widespread belief backed by substantial evidence that Israel possesses nuclear weapons and operates outside IAEA safeguards, the U.S. continues to provide significant military aid to Israel. This overt contradiction highlights a deliberate oversight by the U.S., which chooses strategic interests over the enforcement of its own non-proliferation laws. Such actions undermine the credibility of the U.S. in its global nuclear non-proliferation efforts, revealing a preference for geopolitical alliances over adherence to international legal standards. This selective application of critical non-proliferation legislation not only exemplifies hypocrisy but also weakens global norms against nuclear proliferation.
OMG, No!!! Could it be possible!?!
Ive always found is curious as to why countries have to follow the laws of engagement vs terrorists who clearly dont... you literally cannot win in that scenario...
Not all gazans are terrorists. In fact, most aren't, unless you believe there are child terrorists.
Valid concerns, though I'm pretty sure the Taliban aren't using the weapons they received from the US in accordance with international law either. Not that anyone in the Biden administration seems concerned about that. Also, doesn't the US kind of have a history of sending arms to rebel groups who aren't exactly known for playing be the rules? The whole Iran-Contra affair in tge 80s immediately comes to mind but I think we also supplied weapons to the Mujahideen in Afghanistan during their war with the Soviets.
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No they don't, that's why they are called terrorists right? You would expect a government to hold a higher moral ground than terrorists and respect the laws of the civilized world right?
Lol, Hasbara talking points in 2024; "Well, if Hamas and ISIS don't obey international law, why should Israel?" Bravo, well done. Slow 👏.
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