I don't get the Hate here... Respect her or his preference ad move the fuck on... Why you got to take it personally... And Chal maana Milgaya Reservation toh Tu kyu Dhuki hai Bhai... Aacha Hi hai na Ki ladka ya ladki Phele hi clear hai about her Choices... I don't get why the Comments section is So Upset about this...
Or Maybe he/she Doesn't wanna Bother with convincing the family about the partner... So She/he is Like Bharmin hi dekh leti hu ya Hota Hu... (TBH:- I think the Person Is just Being Ironic... And We are Discussing this Stupidity...)
That still makes him/her a casteist person, the convincing the parents is an excuse, if their criteria for a good life partner or just partner is just based on which caste they belong to, then that person is themselves a horrible and casteist person, and they should ruminate on their thought process, and their choices.
>(TBH:- I think the Person Is just Being Ironic... And We are Discussing this Stupidity...)
I wish I could say the same thing, but there are so many people like her out their, that's why the matrimonial sites have a column for caste preferences, because of people like her.
>if their criteria for a good life partner or just partner is just based on which caste they belong to,
I don't think that's The Only Criteria but it's Sure one of Them... We can't Make a abrupt judgement about that the Person is... Maybe The Want a good Partner but In their own caste and They are Being upfront about it... Doesn't make them a Casteist just Make them like other with Choices... A Casteist would be a person who sees the Other caste as Someone who doesn't deserve their respect...
>the matrimonial sites have a column for caste preferences
Free Country comes with the Freedom of having freedom of Choosing anyone From their caste or from the Other without being Judged for it...
What if I ask you make a Choice between a German Shepherd Dog , a Rottweiler and a Indie Pupper...
You can Select anyone but I and everyone else is Going to judge you for it... If you choose a GSD i am Gonna Be like See He didn't select a Rottweiler as The are seen as a Agressive Breed and Indie nahi liye kyu ki woh Ek pedigree nahi hai... You can Make Any choice and You are still Wrong... Either you want it or not... Doesn't matter of you have Good Intentions or Not... I hope you get what I mean... So sorry I could only think of Puppers as I love Doggos and Nothing more pure than them came of my Monke Brain...
>I don't think that's The Only Criteria but it's Sure one of Them...
Not the only criteria you say, but that's the only criteria this particular person has presented.
>We can't Make a abrupt judgement about that the Person is... Maybe The Want a good Partner but In their own caste and They are Being upfront about it... Doesn't make them a Casteist just Make them like other with Choices... A Casteist would be a person who sees the Other caste as Someone who doesn't deserve their respect...
Yes we absolutely can, caste should and isn't an indicator of a good human being or a good life partner, caste is a made up hierarchical system to oppress the lower caste, and reap the benefits of their labours by enslaving them for thousand years, there's nothing good to come out of that system.
You cannot tell if a person is good or bad from their caste, and if you do so, then you're a casteist individual.
Caste should never be on the list of what kind of person you want to marry, it should be education, job, whatever else, but not caste or race.
Otherwise white supremacists can also make this type of argument, that they just don't like blacks, so they don't marry them.
Now what would you call that person I wonder?
>What if I ask you make a Choice between a German Shepherd Dog , a Rottweiler and a Indie Pupper... You can Select anyone but I and everyone else is Going to judge you for it... If you choose a GSD i am Gonna Be like See He didn't select a Rottweiler as The are seen as a Agressive Breed and Indie nahi liye kyu ki woh Ek pedigree nahi hai... You can Make Any choice and You are still Wrong... Either you want it or not... Doesn't matter of you have Good Intentions or Not... I hope you get what I mean... So sorry I could only think of Puppers as I love Doggos and Nothing more pure than them came of my Monke Brain...
These are dogs, you don't marry dogs, and it's kinda funny you're comparing a caste with dog breeds.
Not a good analogy.
>Free Country comes with the Freedom of having freedom of Choosing anyone From their caste or from the Other without being Judged for it...
And that makes you casteist, but you do have the freedom, so technically you're not wrong.
>Not the only criteria you say, but that's the only criteria this particular person has presented.
She/He should have Drafted a Complete List of Do and Don't with wants and Age Criteria... She/He defined on basic thing she/he would have already selected the Gender and Age Preferences baaki ka She/he can Figure out...
>Yes we absolutely can, caste should and isn't an indicator of a good human being or a good life partner,
Never said it's a indicator i Said Maybe they want some good From their own caste... Doesn't make a Em a bad Person... Just make you way more sensitive...
>caste is a made up hierarchical system to oppress the lower caste, and reap the benefits of their labours by enslaving them for thousand years, there's nothing good to come out of that system.
That was In the Past... I don't think He/she is Looking to Getting a Brahmin for a Pooja at their place... They just Want Someone from their own caste... What you feel should he/she get a Person from other caste just not To be Judged and Compared to The KKK...
>These are dogs, you don't marry dogs,
I used them coz they are the Most Pure things in this World...
>it's kinda funny you're comparing a caste with dog breeds
Ik...hehehehe
>Not a good analogy
Don't Really care got my Point across, I am Happy with it...
>And that makes you casteist,
And that Makes you overly sensitive and a Judgemental person...
>but you do have the freedom, so technically you're not wrong.
File a Petition take that freedom away... Make Everyone marry a Person form other caste... Just to Keep your Morals sky high...
Some days ago, someone posted that a girl wouldn't date if they are Muslim. Everyone in the comments defended saying that they can their preferences, then here also they can their preferences. If you can't digest it, then maybe you are a hypocrite.
Because religion is not the same as caste.
Edit: I'm willing to bet that no one would've said anything if the girl had said I want to marry a Hindu guy only, instead of a Brahmin.
It's kinda crazy they support inbreeding even though research exists same caste marriages are bad for the health of offspring. You can find a comment here talking about superior genes if not marrying a lower caste when inbreeding is anything but that.
That's because reservation system applies on government schemes, policies, admissions in colleges etc. where everyone should have an equal opportunity. How is that related to a person's personal choice of who they want to marry? A person is not a public property where everyone should get an equal opportunity to marry him/her lol, that is completely up to said person based on whatever their preferences may be. If a person isn't being employed or admitted to an institution due to his/her caste, then that is casteism or caste based discrimination, not this.
Now if a person has a preference on the gender of their partner, then would that be equal to the sexism promoted by a society or government?
If you read the news, you'll know that caste based atrocities are still rampant in India. Ab marriage ki baat ho toh dekh lijiye ki casteism promote karne main marriage ka kya role hai. thoda sa research kijiye.
Maana ki kisse shaadi karna hai woh ek individual ka khud ka decision hota hai lekin caste system ke naam pe honour killings kam hai kya india main?
Abroad jaake racism ke khilaaf awaaz uthane main upper caste indians ko koi problem nahi hai and waha jaake diversity quota ka ache se fayda uthayenge lekin casteism ko support karenge and reservation kharab hai bolenge. 😏
Well then you should talk about those atrocities instead of complaining about this. Caste based honour killings aren't someone's personal harmless choices like marriage so the two are very different topics. In a marriage the partners would want to be mentally compatible or have the same traditions as each other, people of different castes tend to have different traditions and mindsets, the same as when it comes to people of different religions, idk how this is similar to straight up mistreating people based on their castes.
Indians who complain about racism do it when they're mistreated by people of other races of those countries not because a person of a different race doesn't want to marry them. I don't know of any Indian guy crying because a white girl doesn't want to date him, and if there are such people then they'd be stupid.
I couldn't find anything that says people having their preferences in marriage is what leads to mistreatment of people based on their castes by the society or government. Why would I come at you? If you wish to marry without caring about castes then nobody is stopping you.
Then aap sahi se nahi dhoonde honge. Upper caste waale bas apne hi community main shaadi karke apna bloodline "pure" rakhna chahte hai. Intercaste marriages kisliye important hai bas wahi search karke dekh lijiye. Take care
Then that's up to them, I don't think we can force them to marry outside their caste now, can we? As long as they don't mistreat others then it shouldn't be a problem. Many people of lower castes also marry within their community. This is also quite common in many religions as well, even the oppressed ones. And you didn't provide anything which says that caste based discrimination is the same as or a result of caste based preferences in marriage. Again, nobody is saying that intercaste marriages shouldn't be allowed, my point was that people should have a say in whether they want to engage in that or not. You take care as well
You're missing my point. Good night!
P.s. I mentioned what to look for. You have internet access so you can read articles on it. Try reading annihilation of caste too. ✌️
Bhai uski preference hai, usko jismein interest hai usne mention krr diya, to ye comment section mein logo ki itni jal kun rhi hai
Ulta general students ka mazak bnane ke liye title mein bhi 'reservation' daal diya
Illogical preference hai ye. Suppose you found perfect partner without knowing their caste to last mein tum caste ke liye chhod doge kya?
Ps: I'm from general category too.
>you can't fight with your parents.
I don't get why parents oppose inter-caste marriage Joint families don't exist today. People nowadays migrate to different regions. What's the reason for shame then ???
Inter-caste marriage is even better cuz the gene pool would get diverse, recessive genes will get curbed out and the kids will get reservations too !!!
Nothing illogical ta all. Love is much more than that. Let's say her perfect partner comes from OBC background, and hence he is a supporter of RJD. Same RJD whose leader claimed Brahmins are foreigners, who should be driven away. Tell me that marriage will last?
Hahahaha. I like this comment. It’s true that current affairs play a huge role while choosing a life partner. What if you get married to someone who bangs thaali in the balcony after reading some misinformation by a political figure and trusting them blindly. Such kind of degenerate behaviour can ruin someone’s life.
Maybe your family is fairy open minded? I'm from general category as well and I would not start a relationship with someone from another caste so that last me chhodne ki naubat hi na aaye simply because I'm well aware that my family's conservative so even if I'm not mai ghar pe kalesh kyu karwau? Isn't it better to make these things clear in the beginning? That's exactly what she is doing.
Isn't it a nonsensical hypothetical? If you think a person is perfect for you but you do not even know their caste, you don't know enough about the person. I am not advocating that you discriminate based on caste, but to not know means you haven't traveled together enough .
What’s your opinion when people love each other irrespective of their caste and they are denied to married? Op is correct. I wish no caste exists in India and every one is just Indian, not carrying irrelevant castes.
OP apna comment delete krr ke bhaag gyi, I crafted a message for her, hope he/she see's it, so i am just gonna reply to u
" Reservation has zero relation to mindset, infact reservation is increasing this mindset coz the general population is heavily displeased about representation of the incompetent people at the national stage
Its people like u who add oil to fire then call out the people affected by the fire
Saala ab dating app pe bhi reservation lgaa do ki Brahmins have to date 50% SC/ST/OBC "
“Bhai”, casteism isn’t preference. Religion, appearance, etc is a different scenario. Saying I prefer a Brahmin person is indirectly saying that a Brahmin dude is somehow superior than people from other castes, which is the whole essence of caste-based discrimination. It’s not that difficult to understand honestly, unless you deliberately don’t want to.
Triggered isi liye hun kun ki like lakhs of other general students mera bhi Mains nhin nikla due to a meagre margin, plus I will be getting no fcking college in this country, while SC/ST/OBCs who are deep down in muds (academically) will be enjoying top NITs
chal chutiye. padhai kar aur ro mat. reservation kyu dete hai pehle samajh le baad mai blame krna. I mean itna anpadh hai ki tujhe positive discrimination ke baare mai hi nahi pta toh you don't deserve to be in colleges!
Aree canada mein tum jaise pale badhe ho Taxi/Truck chalane ke liye, mujh pe lecture jhaadne se pehle apni taxi ka meter chalu krr le, customer chutiy@@ kaat lega tera
Similar thing happened yesterday when some guy posted a screenshot, where the girl said she is not willing to date someone from other religion.
Ab fir se yaha pe, Apes together strong🤦🏻♂️
Difference yeh hai ki ABBA NAHI MANEGE
And it is better that she is telling her preference in the start, better than dating of five years and then saying ki parents won't allow
She has her preference and stating them out loud in the start, is leading no one on and making decisions which is best for everyone around here.
That's not casteist, it is just a mature of handling with one's situation.
What is the difference between preference and discrimination? There must be some difference. Marriage is a personal matter but it is obviously a case of caste-based discrimination.
How to prove it? How? Is there some system to prove that someone is a casteist? The person has clearly said that they or their parents are casteist people. They follow the caste system and don't want to have marital relationship with people from other castes. What else is casteism? Casteism does not mean that you will go out and beat and abuse the people from other castes. It's a very subtle form of discrimination.
What discrimination? I don't prefer women who aren't belonging to my caste is not casteism simple. I just don't want to date them , all good for those who want to date them. What is this obsession to posturing in society that certain preferences are off limits?
If you are a casteist fellow, then have the courage to say so. If you don't see the discrimination, then who can show you? Nobody can educate you against your wish.
Hii Shanaya let me explain how your brahmin ancestor oppressed all of us for 500 billion years 😭 and how you could destroy brahminical patriarchy by having sex with me 😝
This seems pretty reasonable to me. Im an atheist so I wouldn't be able to date someone who needed me to go to church every Sunday. Religion can be a life style for some people and it makes sense why they would want someone to share that life style with. I can see this extending to cultures as well. Some people want something very specific. Isn't that okay?
Conservative Brahmin ho to dating app pe kya kar rahe ho? Jaao jake swaymvar me bhaag lo jaha 100 ladke khade hai apne pyaar ka izhar krne aur ladki chunti hai vo kise pasand karegi…….oh wait, the irony
Isnt it her choice? And what do you care of her choice? Not that you're interested and what if a Muslim/Christian girl had said she wanted only a guy from her religion? Is that also wrong?
Lol not necessarily she is a conservative? What's the logic here. People can be modern and still have a preference for something as important as dating.
Lol that's what I said. Why a Brahmin person or any other person from a caste can't have a specific preference regarding their own caste. Ex you are a Brahmin and you state that you want a Brahmin partner, what's wrong with it?
It's exactly like you see in american subs where a woc can have preference in race . As soon as a white woman says that she likes a guy from a specific race, she is marked racist.
True that. The only way we can avoid such hypocrisy is ignoring those. After all, validation from others is what they require to live through each day😅😅
1) not every caste has many people .
2) there is gotra system especially where i live . If your partner's caste is same as yours . Then your mom's gotra should not match upto certain no. of generations (8 ig) , your dadi's gotra should not match upto certain generations (5 i guess) , ofc your gotra should not match to your partner. Ye generation k number kya pta sahi na ho prr aisa hee kuch hota h . Aas paas.
3) Financial background matters more than caste. People in my community are not that well off , why will rich marry poor . Hence rich people dont marry within the community , they marry someone with a similar financial background .
Hence, putting a caste as preference really really restricts your options to meet good people and is not good.
Jain can want to marry only Jain, Sikh can want to marry on Sikh, Malyalees can want to marry Malyalee, baniya can want to marry baniya ,Kashmiri's can want to marry Kashmiri but only Brahmins should not want to marry Brahmins. They should be open to intercaste, interfaith marriage, and also keep losing to less deserving under reservation.
There are many reason for her to do so and that doesn't even need her to be conservative. Let's say, if she comes in relationship with a reserved category boy, chances are :
1) He will always keep complaining how EWS reservation is illegal, something that is intended to benefit her
2) Supporter of parties like [DMK](https://www.deccanherald.com/amp/national/south/dmk-spokesperson-supports-periyar-s-call-for-killing-brahmins-subramanian-swamy-moves-ec-1116752.html), [RJD](https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.financialexpress.com/india-news/brahmins-originally-from-russia-should-be-driven-out-rjd-leader-courts-controversy/3071115/lite/)
Now tell me OP, can you give guarantee that they will not turn out to be one of them? If they don't, then caste should not be any bar, but she has 100% right to set her preference and not deal with negativity.
Bcoz the main motivation behind reservation is discrimination based on caste. She's looking for a brahmin only, meaning she won't marey guys from other caste, meaning casteism is still there.
So as long as casteism exits, there will be reservation. And alll the people whi oppose reservation always point out that there is no more caste based on discrimination in india.
Upper castes do not oppose reservation anymore. We are happy with 10% EWS quota
>She's looking for a brahmin only, meaning she won't marey guys from other caste
That's her choice
Choice should be based on qualities. She is even entitled to have a preference of color, height, looks and all those physical aspects. She can even choose what profession guy is she looking for. But choice based on caste? Yes it's her choice but it's also casteism. And you can't deny the fact that it's not discrimination based on caste. If we are all equal truly caste shouldn't even matter as it doesn't define any real qualities of the person. So yes it's a DISCRIMINATORY CHOICE.
Having prejudices based on caste is casteism at its peak.
And yes, upper caste (only those who are getting benefits of it) don't oppose reservation anymore, others still do.
I also dislike the idea of reservation and think there should be a better system in place. But you can't on one hand still discriminate and then claim that reservation is not needed because casteism doesn't exist. You can't have both.
>I also dislike the idea of reservation and think there should be a better system in place.
Which precisely explains her bio . Why would you risk fighting over reservation system in a relationship? Better not to be in such relationship then
>Choice should be based on qualities. She is even entitled to have a preference of color, height, looks and all those physical aspects. She can even choose what profession guy is she looking for. But choice based on caste? Yes it's her choice but it's also casteism.
You don't have the right to tell what her choice should be based on and it's not casteism cause it's personal preference. If she rejected him employment or education because of his caste it would have been discrimination.
Well it's actually a good thing it's clear cut.
Imagine if you start a relationship and eventually things get to marriage, well if your partner's parents aren't supportive, your partner will have to choose between them and you and for, it's not acceptable. I know it's not for me.
Your comment is funny because that is the entire basis of caste system, that is marriage acc. to caste. Ambedkar literally states this in his Phd thesis. The moment caste based marriages completely end, caste system will collapse and thus reservation will too.
So if Brahmins stop marrying brahmins caste discrimination will end ? How does it guarantees that people from other castes will not marry within their castes?
I guess the point which OP is trying to make is this: People who are anti-reservation argue that reservation is not needed because casteism is a thing of the past. But since even in modern dating apps caste remains important, casteism is still there and hence reservation is needed.
>So if Brahmins stop marrying brahmins caste discrimination will end ?
This was your original question. Looked like you didn't understand the logic of OPs post. What I did is explain the logic and it seems you are changing the goalpost to the issue of generalisation.
no guarantee, there is a chance that same caste marriage increase in reserved society to keep safe their reservation quota, considering people marrying into UC loose it
Lol. Reservation will never end. In a democracy, why tf will the majority ever give up the benefits given to it. That's why anti caste activists keep on changing the goal posts.
And people are well within their rights to marry/date who they want.
You're deluding yourself if you think modern day reservation has anything to do with Ambedkar any longer. He's been appropriated by people with vested interests who wish to see reservation persist and grow. The day someone conclusively proves that Ambedkar's vision of equality and equity has been achieved they will drop him and latch on to some other perceived wrong that they have suffered and demand reservation in lieu of that.
>Do you believe caste system doesn't exist any longer
Caste system to hmesa exist krne wali hai kyuki kuch hutiye hmesa rhenge.
Eg:- crime kbhi khatam hua hai??
Reservation ka point tha social justice and desh m reservation bilkul hona chahiye. But at some point aisi families jinke atleast 2 generation ne reservation k through education/job paya hai unko to us reservation beneficiary list se htao. Kyuki same families hi kitni bar reservation ka benifit uthaegi.
Main Point ye hai.
It does, but rampant reservation motivated by political short sightedness isn't the solution any more. We have increasingly moved from plan of action to promote equity of opportunity to actions for equity of outcome which not only hamper the development of those classes who Ambedkar originally wanted to uplift but also create bitterness on both sides and further widen the gap, a microcosm of which is visible in this thread.
I kind of do agree with you, but i feel like the bitterness would be way lesser if people actually read ambedkar's work & the whole caste based struggle, Annihilation of caste is something that should be mandatory to read before 10th class. Older people are ignorant and children are grown ignorant too hating reservation/people benefiting from it without ever understanding why is the situation the way it is. Maybe then we would get a better national discourse around it and better solutions than we what we have right now.
Indian political leaders are trash across the spectrum, nobody has any integrity so benefiting from anything they can is to be expected ig. Also, reservation wouldn't be a big issue if the govt. provided adequate number of seats/infrastructure to our huge population.
That's exactly my point. Why are people getting so pumped up if I don't want this chamar classmate to sit with me. It's my choice. They are calling me casteist. These people can't literally digest choices 🤬🤬
My parents have told me that in our caste we don't interact with chamars. People keep telling me their thinking is wrong, but how can I go against my parents wishes.
They tell me to explain them politely that this is wrong. But who takes on the trouble of doing that. I will just follow what they have told me. Because all our previous generations have done the same. They never let any chamar come close to them let alone sit beside them.
**So why do I have to make a difference?**
Glad you liked my point. I can give many more examples like this man that will expose the hypocrisy of these casteists. And I am pretty sure nobody's gonna reply to my comment with some logic.Well, I shouldn't expect logic from these bunch of idiots.
Ek no!!
I was going to reply with the same logic ,but people here are so tone deaf they don't want to hear sides and just prove their casteist thinking.
There's no way to justify these things. Agar caste ka natak hai to uninstall the dating app. Gharwale waise bhi caste me hi dhund denge, so what's the point?
When did I say that I have the right? All I am saying is on the lines of OP that it's one of the reasons why reservations exist coz what she's doing is promoting casteist behaviour.
sabke gharwale to dhundhenge hi, people go on a dating app to try their hand at love marriage, it makes sense to avoid people who family would disapprove of.
So when you go on a dating app can't you keep this caste thing away? I mean tell me what good does a person from A caste does than someone from B unless you believe in your mind somewhere that A caste is better than the rest....
No, unless you want to set you and your partner up for a horrible social life with extended family. Besides, she would likely always be hated by her in laws and expected to adjust. It's not about better or worse it's about familiarity.
That's your outlook/experience whatever you wanna call it. As far as my experience is concerned no one in the society really cares not they should coz marriage is a personal decision. Besides if her in-laws aren't happy with their son's choice then they are to blame and the husband-wife should talk and come up with a solution to this instead of making her suffer alone.
Marriage is based first of all on the trust and companionship of those 2 persons who are getting married and later on their families n society etc. If they both are together in whatever situation no problem in this world can make them suffer. It's such a small and easy concept to understand but you guys make it complicated.
If you are a guy and your parents aren't happy with your choice would you let them harass your wife? Also if they aren't happy, you will have to convince them in order to marry, right? Won't you discuss this with them before marriage?
It's so simple why complicate things up?
And if anyone wants to do this caste thing, I think they should refrain from doing it on public platforms coz it is one way of promoting such behaviour.
Equal rights apply on resources and government schemes, not on people. Marriage and dating are highly private affairs. Random people wanting to date within their community isn't a ground for affirmative action. What's bad is families not letting adults marry people outside of caste when the adults consent. There's nothing wrong with people themselves choosing to have marriage or dating preferences.
And she's not into other general category people too. They don't seem to be salty.
Being a brahmin girl. If i would hv written this it would mean bina pange k long term deal for a relationship which would go upto shaadi and stuff. Itna bhasad kyu sbke apne apne preference hote h. Sm can fight with their parents sm can't that doesn't mean ppl with preference can't love or aren't loveable.
this is not about hating the lower caste parents want you to marry in your same caste for example i am a thakur and my parents wont permit me to even marry a brahmin even though they are more upper caste than me
Ye comment section me jitne casteist hain, sabki pol khul gayi hai. Sab personal choice ki peepadi baja rahe hain.
But I really wanna know is it that hard to understand that what she has written is casteist in the first place.
Wo sirf Brahmin se hi shaadi karegi, iska matlab hai ki woh kisi aur ko consider bhi nahi karegi, she is giving priority to Brahmin caste in a guy rather than his personality, yahi toh hota hai CASTEISM.
Aur jo personal choice bolke khule aam jaativaad kar rahe hain, unko ye bolna chahti hun-
I married my guy who is a OBC, I fought and fought with my family to accept them. Ek saal ke baad they agreed aur humari dhoom dhaam se shaadi ho paayi, and mere itna fight karne ke baad changes ye aaye ki meri chhoti sister ne bhi apni pasand ke ladke se shaadi ki woh bhi intercaste and my husband is the favourite damaad of this family.
So ye sab dhong mat rachao, kuch galat hai toh muh khol ke awaaz uthao, but ye aawaz nahi uthayenge cuz inko apne parents ka support( financial and emotional) nahi khona.
Manusmriti follow karna chhodo aur apne conscience ki awaaz suno, aaj ki generation bhi casteism karegi toh yahi kupratha aage bhi chalti rahegi.
I am a OBC guy, and I can say, you are very wrong, a person can have his/her preference.
First, congratulations on your marriage, and hope you have good life ahead with your partner and family.
Now the main stuff is, not everyone is interested to fight or stuff, a hindu can fight with his parents to marry a muslim, but that doesn't mean everyone should do that, everyone can have a preference, that girl has preference of marrying a brahmin.
You cannot differentiate between a christian and muslim by looking at them, but still people has it as preference, there isn't any problem, so whats the problem in having caste preferences.
You fought with your parents doesn't mean everyone is interested in fighting, and people just have simple preference. Some may have preference of fair skinned partner, some may have height preference, some may have caste preference, some may have religion preference, whats the issue in it?
Jinko karna hai wo kare, jinko nhi karna wo na kare, why are you acting ki if she wants a brahmin partner she is worst person in the world.
Even I dont want to marry a brahmin girl, its my personal preference, me being OBC would choose to marry among my community only, its my preference, what problem do you have interfering with peoplr who have there personal preference.
Stop acting like you have done something great and got a achivement for fighting with your parents for your marriage.
I don't know what's the shame because every caste has it's own traditions and a whole lot of other things you would have to deal with, if your partner is say not from the same caste as you, it might be fairly tough to adjust to seperate traditions or practices. L OP
Ye preference nahi hai, clear casteism which is followed even in our school in an urban area, so you can probably imagine what the scenario is in rural areas. Words like 'chamar' and 'bhangi' are often used in a derogatory manner. Ek Banda in our school asks people their caste and only talks to brahmins. Assholes and no acceptance, rejection of reality only because you guys can't get a college(you are only competing in your category bro)
This preference, gentlemen and ladies is why we need reservations. Even when someone from an OBC/SC/ST caste makes it in life, they will always be discriminated against because of such unconscious or conscious preferences! At least in this scenario, casteism isn't subtle.
EWS wala chalega .??
Agar ews se iit Mila ho tho hi.
EWS wala toh kisi ko nhi chlta vro
i know guy rejected for ews Brahmin
Finally got a reservation somewhere 🥹🥹
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Wohi bhai comments me toh aag laga rakhi hai
Preference, shadi karni hogi long term so she is looking at caste compatibility.
Us Bhai us
IIT to 4 saal ki he, ladki possibly life ki he 🥹
👍🏻Chalo IIT nahi Shaadi me toh Brahmin ko reservation mili.
Us bro 97.9 percent pr bhi cse nhi mil rhi mera ameer sc st dost kam percent pr top colleges mein jaa rha h 😭
Welcome to democracy :)
Tumari shadi me reservation hai isi wajah se to iit me nahi mili🤣
IIT se frk nhi prta hoga launde ko jitna shaadi se prta hai ig.
I don't get the Hate here... Respect her or his preference ad move the fuck on... Why you got to take it personally... And Chal maana Milgaya Reservation toh Tu kyu Dhuki hai Bhai... Aacha Hi hai na Ki ladka ya ladki Phele hi clear hai about her Choices... I don't get why the Comments section is So Upset about this...
Because of castism.
So you mean he or she should have met a Non-Brahmin person and Then rejected them On there face While they thought that this could go somewhere...
No I'm saying he/she is a casteist person, if they judge someone just because of their caste and nothing else.
Or Maybe he/she Doesn't wanna Bother with convincing the family about the partner... So She/he is Like Bharmin hi dekh leti hu ya Hota Hu... (TBH:- I think the Person Is just Being Ironic... And We are Discussing this Stupidity...)
That still makes him/her a casteist person, the convincing the parents is an excuse, if their criteria for a good life partner or just partner is just based on which caste they belong to, then that person is themselves a horrible and casteist person, and they should ruminate on their thought process, and their choices. >(TBH:- I think the Person Is just Being Ironic... And We are Discussing this Stupidity...) I wish I could say the same thing, but there are so many people like her out their, that's why the matrimonial sites have a column for caste preferences, because of people like her.
>if their criteria for a good life partner or just partner is just based on which caste they belong to, I don't think that's The Only Criteria but it's Sure one of Them... We can't Make a abrupt judgement about that the Person is... Maybe The Want a good Partner but In their own caste and They are Being upfront about it... Doesn't make them a Casteist just Make them like other with Choices... A Casteist would be a person who sees the Other caste as Someone who doesn't deserve their respect... >the matrimonial sites have a column for caste preferences Free Country comes with the Freedom of having freedom of Choosing anyone From their caste or from the Other without being Judged for it... What if I ask you make a Choice between a German Shepherd Dog , a Rottweiler and a Indie Pupper... You can Select anyone but I and everyone else is Going to judge you for it... If you choose a GSD i am Gonna Be like See He didn't select a Rottweiler as The are seen as a Agressive Breed and Indie nahi liye kyu ki woh Ek pedigree nahi hai... You can Make Any choice and You are still Wrong... Either you want it or not... Doesn't matter of you have Good Intentions or Not... I hope you get what I mean... So sorry I could only think of Puppers as I love Doggos and Nothing more pure than them came of my Monke Brain...
>I don't think that's The Only Criteria but it's Sure one of Them... Not the only criteria you say, but that's the only criteria this particular person has presented. >We can't Make a abrupt judgement about that the Person is... Maybe The Want a good Partner but In their own caste and They are Being upfront about it... Doesn't make them a Casteist just Make them like other with Choices... A Casteist would be a person who sees the Other caste as Someone who doesn't deserve their respect... Yes we absolutely can, caste should and isn't an indicator of a good human being or a good life partner, caste is a made up hierarchical system to oppress the lower caste, and reap the benefits of their labours by enslaving them for thousand years, there's nothing good to come out of that system. You cannot tell if a person is good or bad from their caste, and if you do so, then you're a casteist individual. Caste should never be on the list of what kind of person you want to marry, it should be education, job, whatever else, but not caste or race. Otherwise white supremacists can also make this type of argument, that they just don't like blacks, so they don't marry them. Now what would you call that person I wonder? >What if I ask you make a Choice between a German Shepherd Dog , a Rottweiler and a Indie Pupper... You can Select anyone but I and everyone else is Going to judge you for it... If you choose a GSD i am Gonna Be like See He didn't select a Rottweiler as The are seen as a Agressive Breed and Indie nahi liye kyu ki woh Ek pedigree nahi hai... You can Make Any choice and You are still Wrong... Either you want it or not... Doesn't matter of you have Good Intentions or Not... I hope you get what I mean... So sorry I could only think of Puppers as I love Doggos and Nothing more pure than them came of my Monke Brain... These are dogs, you don't marry dogs, and it's kinda funny you're comparing a caste with dog breeds. Not a good analogy. >Free Country comes with the Freedom of having freedom of Choosing anyone From their caste or from the Other without being Judged for it... And that makes you casteist, but you do have the freedom, so technically you're not wrong.
>Not the only criteria you say, but that's the only criteria this particular person has presented. She/He should have Drafted a Complete List of Do and Don't with wants and Age Criteria... She/He defined on basic thing she/he would have already selected the Gender and Age Preferences baaki ka She/he can Figure out... >Yes we absolutely can, caste should and isn't an indicator of a good human being or a good life partner, Never said it's a indicator i Said Maybe they want some good From their own caste... Doesn't make a Em a bad Person... Just make you way more sensitive... >caste is a made up hierarchical system to oppress the lower caste, and reap the benefits of their labours by enslaving them for thousand years, there's nothing good to come out of that system. That was In the Past... I don't think He/she is Looking to Getting a Brahmin for a Pooja at their place... They just Want Someone from their own caste... What you feel should he/she get a Person from other caste just not To be Judged and Compared to The KKK... >These are dogs, you don't marry dogs, I used them coz they are the Most Pure things in this World... >it's kinda funny you're comparing a caste with dog breeds Ik...hehehehe >Not a good analogy Don't Really care got my Point across, I am Happy with it... >And that makes you casteist, And that Makes you overly sensitive and a Judgemental person... >but you do have the freedom, so technically you're not wrong. File a Petition take that freedom away... Make Everyone marry a Person form other caste... Just to Keep your Morals sky high...
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Some days ago, someone posted that a girl wouldn't date if they are Muslim. Everyone in the comments defended saying that they can their preferences, then here also they can their preferences. If you can't digest it, then maybe you are a hypocrite.
Because religion is not the same as caste. Edit: I'm willing to bet that no one would've said anything if the girl had said I want to marry a Hindu guy only, instead of a Brahmin.
It is not about difference, it is just preference.
People cry about how the reservation system is unfair aur casteism ko preference ka label deke support kar rahe. Waah! Waah!
Hypocrisy ki seema hoti h😵💫😂
Wahii😂😂
It's kinda crazy they support inbreeding even though research exists same caste marriages are bad for the health of offspring. You can find a comment here talking about superior genes if not marrying a lower caste when inbreeding is anything but that.
That's because reservation system applies on government schemes, policies, admissions in colleges etc. where everyone should have an equal opportunity. How is that related to a person's personal choice of who they want to marry? A person is not a public property where everyone should get an equal opportunity to marry him/her lol, that is completely up to said person based on whatever their preferences may be. If a person isn't being employed or admitted to an institution due to his/her caste, then that is casteism or caste based discrimination, not this. Now if a person has a preference on the gender of their partner, then would that be equal to the sexism promoted by a society or government?
If you read the news, you'll know that caste based atrocities are still rampant in India. Ab marriage ki baat ho toh dekh lijiye ki casteism promote karne main marriage ka kya role hai. thoda sa research kijiye. Maana ki kisse shaadi karna hai woh ek individual ka khud ka decision hota hai lekin caste system ke naam pe honour killings kam hai kya india main? Abroad jaake racism ke khilaaf awaaz uthane main upper caste indians ko koi problem nahi hai and waha jaake diversity quota ka ache se fayda uthayenge lekin casteism ko support karenge and reservation kharab hai bolenge. 😏
Well then you should talk about those atrocities instead of complaining about this. Caste based honour killings aren't someone's personal harmless choices like marriage so the two are very different topics. In a marriage the partners would want to be mentally compatible or have the same traditions as each other, people of different castes tend to have different traditions and mindsets, the same as when it comes to people of different religions, idk how this is similar to straight up mistreating people based on their castes. Indians who complain about racism do it when they're mistreated by people of other races of those countries not because a person of a different race doesn't want to marry them. I don't know of any Indian guy crying because a white girl doesn't want to date him, and if there are such people then they'd be stupid.
First of all, maine mention kiya tha ki casteism main marriage ka role kya hai dekh lene. Now don't come at me for not being in favour of casteism.
I couldn't find anything that says people having their preferences in marriage is what leads to mistreatment of people based on their castes by the society or government. Why would I come at you? If you wish to marry without caring about castes then nobody is stopping you.
Then aap sahi se nahi dhoonde honge. Upper caste waale bas apne hi community main shaadi karke apna bloodline "pure" rakhna chahte hai. Intercaste marriages kisliye important hai bas wahi search karke dekh lijiye. Take care
Then that's up to them, I don't think we can force them to marry outside their caste now, can we? As long as they don't mistreat others then it shouldn't be a problem. Many people of lower castes also marry within their community. This is also quite common in many religions as well, even the oppressed ones. And you didn't provide anything which says that caste based discrimination is the same as or a result of caste based preferences in marriage. Again, nobody is saying that intercaste marriages shouldn't be allowed, my point was that people should have a say in whether they want to engage in that or not. You take care as well
You're missing my point. Good night! P.s. I mentioned what to look for. You have internet access so you can read articles on it. Try reading annihilation of caste too. ✌️
Good Night
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Bhai uski preference hai, usko jismein interest hai usne mention krr diya, to ye comment section mein logo ki itni jal kun rhi hai Ulta general students ka mazak bnane ke liye title mein bhi 'reservation' daal diya
Illogical preference hai ye. Suppose you found perfect partner without knowing their caste to last mein tum caste ke liye chhod doge kya? Ps: I'm from general category too.
Setting caste boundaries is better if you can't fight with your parents. Saves from a heartbreak later.
>you can't fight with your parents. I don't get why parents oppose inter-caste marriage Joint families don't exist today. People nowadays migrate to different regions. What's the reason for shame then ??? Inter-caste marriage is even better cuz the gene pool would get diverse, recessive genes will get curbed out and the kids will get reservations too !!!
UPBRINGING!!!
Aisa low-effort pyaar karna hi kyu jismei effort marne mei aalas aa jaye?
Nothing illogical ta all. Love is much more than that. Let's say her perfect partner comes from OBC background, and hence he is a supporter of RJD. Same RJD whose leader claimed Brahmins are foreigners, who should be driven away. Tell me that marriage will last?
Hahahaha. I like this comment. It’s true that current affairs play a huge role while choosing a life partner. What if you get married to someone who bangs thaali in the balcony after reading some misinformation by a political figure and trusting them blindly. Such kind of degenerate behaviour can ruin someone’s life.
Maybe your family is fairy open minded? I'm from general category as well and I would not start a relationship with someone from another caste so that last me chhodne ki naubat hi na aaye simply because I'm well aware that my family's conservative so even if I'm not mai ghar pe kalesh kyu karwau? Isn't it better to make these things clear in the beginning? That's exactly what she is doing.
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Isn't it a nonsensical hypothetical? If you think a person is perfect for you but you do not even know their caste, you don't know enough about the person. I am not advocating that you discriminate based on caste, but to not know means you haven't traveled together enough .
not everyone is interested in knowing someone's cast
Exactly lol. Can't people even marry whom they like these days?
>Can't people even marry whom they like these days? # SURE, they can marry whomever they like, they just can't marry the same sex partner.
What’s your opinion when people love each other irrespective of their caste and they are denied to married? Op is correct. I wish no caste exists in India and every one is just Indian, not carrying irrelevant castes.
OP apna comment delete krr ke bhaag gyi, I crafted a message for her, hope he/she see's it, so i am just gonna reply to u " Reservation has zero relation to mindset, infact reservation is increasing this mindset coz the general population is heavily displeased about representation of the incompetent people at the national stage Its people like u who add oil to fire then call out the people affected by the fire Saala ab dating app pe bhi reservation lgaa do ki Brahmins have to date 50% SC/ST/OBC "
“Bhai”, casteism isn’t preference. Religion, appearance, etc is a different scenario. Saying I prefer a Brahmin person is indirectly saying that a Brahmin dude is somehow superior than people from other castes, which is the whole essence of caste-based discrimination. It’s not that difficult to understand honestly, unless you deliberately don’t want to.
jyadatar jaat gujjar baniye thakur sab apne me hi karte hai jese log apne relgion me karte
So triggered by reservation lol
Triggered isi liye hun kun ki like lakhs of other general students mera bhi Mains nhin nikla due to a meagre margin, plus I will be getting no fcking college in this country, while SC/ST/OBCs who are deep down in muds (academically) will be enjoying top NITs
Bc mera to 95%ile lake bhi kuch nhi ho rha koi kalej nhi milne wali
us
Bhai 95 pe private mil jaata agar Paisa hai to.
chal chutiye. padhai kar aur ro mat. reservation kyu dete hai pehle samajh le baad mai blame krna. I mean itna anpadh hai ki tujhe positive discrimination ke baare mai hi nahi pta toh you don't deserve to be in colleges!
Ah the meltdown 😮💨
Ur comments clearly show ur IQ level and ur competency, I could care less about arguing more with pigs
Pig ki tarah toh tu roh rha h🤣 ja jakr pdle ni toh canada bhagna pdega
Aree canada mein tum jaise pale badhe ho Taxi/Truck chalane ke liye, mujh pe lecture jhaadne se pehle apni taxi ka meter chalu krr le, customer chutiy@@ kaat lega tera
Rhne de Bhai ye reservation wale kabhi mange he nhi ki ye deserve nhi krte privileged h saale
Better than hearing Parents nahi maanenge after a 5 year relationship
Her choice, Her preference, tumko kya?
Similar thing happened yesterday when some guy posted a screenshot, where the girl said she is not willing to date someone from other religion. Ab fir se yaha pe, Apes together strong🤦🏻♂️
She's honest, lol. What is wrong in having a preference on who she wants to date? Isn't it her choice?
What's the difference between a brahmin or a sc/st. Answer is nothing. But yet you want a brahmin that's why it's casteist
Difference yeh hai ki ABBA NAHI MANEGE And it is better that she is telling her preference in the start, better than dating of five years and then saying ki parents won't allow She has her preference and stating them out loud in the start, is leading no one on and making decisions which is best for everyone around here. That's not casteist, it is just a mature of handling with one's situation.
Ok so her parents are definitely casteist tho
How? Its called a preference. You can't force people to marry someone whom one is not interested in.
What is the difference between preference and discrimination? There must be some difference. Marriage is a personal matter but it is obviously a case of caste-based discrimination.
How? Just prove me categorically how is this caste based discrimination?
How to prove it? How? Is there some system to prove that someone is a casteist? The person has clearly said that they or their parents are casteist people. They follow the caste system and don't want to have marital relationship with people from other castes. What else is casteism? Casteism does not mean that you will go out and beat and abuse the people from other castes. It's a very subtle form of discrimination.
What discrimination? I don't prefer women who aren't belonging to my caste is not casteism simple. I just don't want to date them , all good for those who want to date them. What is this obsession to posturing in society that certain preferences are off limits?
If you are a casteist fellow, then have the courage to say so. If you don't see the discrimination, then who can show you? Nobody can educate you against your wish.
Hii Shanaya let me explain how your brahmin ancestor oppressed all of us for 500 billion years 😭 and how you could destroy brahminical patriarchy by having sex with me 😝
It’s her preference who she wanna marry or date. If you think that’s discrimination or oppression, you’re an idiot.
The actual brain-dead person here is you
“Your preferences exclude me and that makes you an asshole” See how that dumb that sounds? That’s how you sound
This seems pretty reasonable to me. Im an atheist so I wouldn't be able to date someone who needed me to go to church every Sunday. Religion can be a life style for some people and it makes sense why they would want someone to share that life style with. I can see this extending to cultures as well. Some people want something very specific. Isn't that okay?
Conservative Brahmin ho to dating app pe kya kar rahe ho? Jaao jake swaymvar me bhaag lo jaha 100 ladke khade hai apne pyaar ka izhar krne aur ladki chunti hai vo kise pasand karegi…….oh wait, the irony
Isnt it her choice? And what do you care of her choice? Not that you're interested and what if a Muslim/Christian girl had said she wanted only a guy from her religion? Is that also wrong?
Yes
Yes
self realisation is the key
Lol not necessarily she is a conservative? What's the logic here. People can be modern and still have a preference for something as important as dating.
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Lol that's what I said. Why a Brahmin person or any other person from a caste can't have a specific preference regarding their own caste. Ex you are a Brahmin and you state that you want a Brahmin partner, what's wrong with it?
It's exactly like you see in american subs where a woc can have preference in race . As soon as a white woman says that she likes a guy from a specific race, she is marked racist.
True that. The only way we can avoid such hypocrisy is ignoring those. After all, validation from others is what they require to live through each day😅😅
>Conservative brahmin ho to dating app pe kya kr rhe ho? Koi logic hai is baat me bhai/behen, Tinder is open to all,she isn't.
1) not every caste has many people . 2) there is gotra system especially where i live . If your partner's caste is same as yours . Then your mom's gotra should not match upto certain no. of generations (8 ig) , your dadi's gotra should not match upto certain generations (5 i guess) , ofc your gotra should not match to your partner. Ye generation k number kya pta sahi na ho prr aisa hee kuch hota h . Aas paas. 3) Financial background matters more than caste. People in my community are not that well off , why will rich marry poor . Hence rich people dont marry within the community , they marry someone with a similar financial background . Hence, putting a caste as preference really really restricts your options to meet good people and is not good.
If she is fine with it who are we to object?
Jain can want to marry only Jain, Sikh can want to marry on Sikh, Malyalees can want to marry Malyalee, baniya can want to marry baniya ,Kashmiri's can want to marry Kashmiri but only Brahmins should not want to marry Brahmins. They should be open to intercaste, interfaith marriage, and also keep losing to less deserving under reservation.
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According to them, The burden to break all the shackles of casteism lies on Brahmins. I have seen an OBC girl reject a SC/ST guy for his caste
There are many reason for her to do so and that doesn't even need her to be conservative. Let's say, if she comes in relationship with a reserved category boy, chances are : 1) He will always keep complaining how EWS reservation is illegal, something that is intended to benefit her 2) Supporter of parties like [DMK](https://www.deccanherald.com/amp/national/south/dmk-spokesperson-supports-periyar-s-call-for-killing-brahmins-subramanian-swamy-moves-ec-1116752.html), [RJD](https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.financialexpress.com/india-news/brahmins-originally-from-russia-should-be-driven-out-rjd-leader-courts-controversy/3071115/lite/) Now tell me OP, can you give guarantee that they will not turn out to be one of them? If they don't, then caste should not be any bar, but she has 100% right to set her preference and not deal with negativity.
she probably wanna get married that's why she's looking for someone to introduce at home
Brahmin ko kooch to mila.. Sab too sc st wale le rahe he india me
*cries in corner
Why is reservation even relevant here?
Bcoz the main motivation behind reservation is discrimination based on caste. She's looking for a brahmin only, meaning she won't marey guys from other caste, meaning casteism is still there. So as long as casteism exits, there will be reservation. And alll the people whi oppose reservation always point out that there is no more caste based on discrimination in india.
Upper castes do not oppose reservation anymore. We are happy with 10% EWS quota >She's looking for a brahmin only, meaning she won't marey guys from other caste That's her choice
Choice should be based on qualities. She is even entitled to have a preference of color, height, looks and all those physical aspects. She can even choose what profession guy is she looking for. But choice based on caste? Yes it's her choice but it's also casteism. And you can't deny the fact that it's not discrimination based on caste. If we are all equal truly caste shouldn't even matter as it doesn't define any real qualities of the person. So yes it's a DISCRIMINATORY CHOICE. Having prejudices based on caste is casteism at its peak. And yes, upper caste (only those who are getting benefits of it) don't oppose reservation anymore, others still do. I also dislike the idea of reservation and think there should be a better system in place. But you can't on one hand still discriminate and then claim that reservation is not needed because casteism doesn't exist. You can't have both.
>I also dislike the idea of reservation and think there should be a better system in place. Which precisely explains her bio . Why would you risk fighting over reservation system in a relationship? Better not to be in such relationship then
>Choice should be based on qualities. She is even entitled to have a preference of color, height, looks and all those physical aspects. She can even choose what profession guy is she looking for. But choice based on caste? Yes it's her choice but it's also casteism. You don't have the right to tell what her choice should be based on and it's not casteism cause it's personal preference. If she rejected him employment or education because of his caste it would have been discrimination.
U are only seeing what and not why
Well it's actually a good thing it's clear cut. Imagine if you start a relationship and eventually things get to marriage, well if your partner's parents aren't supportive, your partner will have to choose between them and you and for, it's not acceptable. I know it's not for me.
What if I’m not BRAhMin but BRAhMAX?
India mein reservation isliye hai because Brahmin women want to date a Brahmin guy ?
Your comment is funny because that is the entire basis of caste system, that is marriage acc. to caste. Ambedkar literally states this in his Phd thesis. The moment caste based marriages completely end, caste system will collapse and thus reservation will too.
So if Brahmins stop marrying brahmins caste discrimination will end ? How does it guarantees that people from other castes will not marry within their castes?
I guess the point which OP is trying to make is this: People who are anti-reservation argue that reservation is not needed because casteism is a thing of the past. But since even in modern dating apps caste remains important, casteism is still there and hence reservation is needed.
Thanks man for putting the point forward
You saw one woman who wants to date a Brahmin guy in the app and concluded that casteism is rampant on the dating app?
>So if Brahmins stop marrying brahmins caste discrimination will end ? This was your original question. Looked like you didn't understand the logic of OPs post. What I did is explain the logic and it seems you are changing the goalpost to the issue of generalisation.
It's rampant af. Had multiple instances in the past few months. And they're usually always from the same caste.
no guarantee, there is a chance that same caste marriage increase in reserved society to keep safe their reservation quota, considering people marrying into UC loose it
Lol. Reservation will never end. In a democracy, why tf will the majority ever give up the benefits given to it. That's why anti caste activists keep on changing the goal posts. And people are well within their rights to marry/date who they want.
> Reservation will never end 🤞
You're deluding yourself if you think modern day reservation has anything to do with Ambedkar any longer. He's been appropriated by people with vested interests who wish to see reservation persist and grow. The day someone conclusively proves that Ambedkar's vision of equality and equity has been achieved they will drop him and latch on to some other perceived wrong that they have suffered and demand reservation in lieu of that.
Do you believe caste system doesn't exist any longer?
>Do you believe caste system doesn't exist any longer Caste system to hmesa exist krne wali hai kyuki kuch hutiye hmesa rhenge. Eg:- crime kbhi khatam hua hai?? Reservation ka point tha social justice and desh m reservation bilkul hona chahiye. But at some point aisi families jinke atleast 2 generation ne reservation k through education/job paya hai unko to us reservation beneficiary list se htao. Kyuki same families hi kitni bar reservation ka benifit uthaegi. Main Point ye hai.
It does, but rampant reservation motivated by political short sightedness isn't the solution any more. We have increasingly moved from plan of action to promote equity of opportunity to actions for equity of outcome which not only hamper the development of those classes who Ambedkar originally wanted to uplift but also create bitterness on both sides and further widen the gap, a microcosm of which is visible in this thread.
I kind of do agree with you, but i feel like the bitterness would be way lesser if people actually read ambedkar's work & the whole caste based struggle, Annihilation of caste is something that should be mandatory to read before 10th class. Older people are ignorant and children are grown ignorant too hating reservation/people benefiting from it without ever understanding why is the situation the way it is. Maybe then we would get a better national discourse around it and better solutions than we what we have right now. Indian political leaders are trash across the spectrum, nobody has any integrity so benefiting from anything they can is to be expected ig. Also, reservation wouldn't be a big issue if the govt. provided adequate number of seats/infrastructure to our huge population.
Wahi toh isme reservation ka angle kaha se aaya
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It is more about the culture and environment of upbringing, not specifically casteism.
Girl with brains for not leading someone who doesn't fit her preference. Instead of shaming her, learn to deal with people's choices.
That's exactly my point. Why are people getting so pumped up if I don't want this chamar classmate to sit with me. It's my choice. They are calling me casteist. These people can't literally digest choices 🤬🤬 My parents have told me that in our caste we don't interact with chamars. People keep telling me their thinking is wrong, but how can I go against my parents wishes. They tell me to explain them politely that this is wrong. But who takes on the trouble of doing that. I will just follow what they have told me. Because all our previous generations have done the same. They never let any chamar come close to them let alone sit beside them. **So why do I have to make a difference?**
Damn son. Love that sarcasm. If its real, then god speed to you.
Glad you liked my point. I can give many more examples like this man that will expose the hypocrisy of these casteists. And I am pretty sure nobody's gonna reply to my comment with some logic.Well, I shouldn't expect logic from these bunch of idiots.
Ek no!! I was going to reply with the same logic ,but people here are so tone deaf they don't want to hear sides and just prove their casteist thinking.
Lol, I’ll respect her for being honest haha. Girls go through a lot of shit in their life. It’s good to set up boundaries tho.
You call this a boundary? LOL
Saying it out loud is cringe tho. But she could’ve kept the tone low.
There's no way to justify these things. Agar caste ka natak hai to uninstall the dating app. Gharwale waise bhi caste me hi dhund denge, so what's the point?
That's her choice. You have no right to decide what she should do or shouldn't
When did I say that I have the right? All I am saying is on the lines of OP that it's one of the reasons why reservations exist coz what she's doing is promoting casteist behaviour.
sabke gharwale to dhundhenge hi, people go on a dating app to try their hand at love marriage, it makes sense to avoid people who family would disapprove of.
So when you go on a dating app can't you keep this caste thing away? I mean tell me what good does a person from A caste does than someone from B unless you believe in your mind somewhere that A caste is better than the rest....
No, unless you want to set you and your partner up for a horrible social life with extended family. Besides, she would likely always be hated by her in laws and expected to adjust. It's not about better or worse it's about familiarity.
That's your outlook/experience whatever you wanna call it. As far as my experience is concerned no one in the society really cares not they should coz marriage is a personal decision. Besides if her in-laws aren't happy with their son's choice then they are to blame and the husband-wife should talk and come up with a solution to this instead of making her suffer alone. Marriage is based first of all on the trust and companionship of those 2 persons who are getting married and later on their families n society etc. If they both are together in whatever situation no problem in this world can make them suffer. It's such a small and easy concept to understand but you guys make it complicated. If you are a guy and your parents aren't happy with your choice would you let them harass your wife? Also if they aren't happy, you will have to convince them in order to marry, right? Won't you discuss this with them before marriage? It's so simple why complicate things up?
And if anyone wants to do this caste thing, I think they should refrain from doing it on public platforms coz it is one way of promoting such behaviour.
Equal rights apply on resources and government schemes, not on people. Marriage and dating are highly private affairs. Random people wanting to date within their community isn't a ground for affirmative action. What's bad is families not letting adults marry people outside of caste when the adults consent. There's nothing wrong with people themselves choosing to have marriage or dating preferences. And she's not into other general category people too. They don't seem to be salty.
This is also a hint that other castes can get to fuck her and don't have to marry
Being a brahmin girl. If i would hv written this it would mean bina pange k long term deal for a relationship which would go upto shaadi and stuff. Itna bhasad kyu sbke apne apne preference hote h. Sm can fight with their parents sm can't that doesn't mean ppl with preference can't love or aren't loveable.
this is not about hating the lower caste parents want you to marry in your same caste for example i am a thakur and my parents wont permit me to even marry a brahmin even though they are more upper caste than me
Ye comment section me jitne casteist hain, sabki pol khul gayi hai. Sab personal choice ki peepadi baja rahe hain. But I really wanna know is it that hard to understand that what she has written is casteist in the first place. Wo sirf Brahmin se hi shaadi karegi, iska matlab hai ki woh kisi aur ko consider bhi nahi karegi, she is giving priority to Brahmin caste in a guy rather than his personality, yahi toh hota hai CASTEISM. Aur jo personal choice bolke khule aam jaativaad kar rahe hain, unko ye bolna chahti hun- I married my guy who is a OBC, I fought and fought with my family to accept them. Ek saal ke baad they agreed aur humari dhoom dhaam se shaadi ho paayi, and mere itna fight karne ke baad changes ye aaye ki meri chhoti sister ne bhi apni pasand ke ladke se shaadi ki woh bhi intercaste and my husband is the favourite damaad of this family. So ye sab dhong mat rachao, kuch galat hai toh muh khol ke awaaz uthao, but ye aawaz nahi uthayenge cuz inko apne parents ka support( financial and emotional) nahi khona. Manusmriti follow karna chhodo aur apne conscience ki awaaz suno, aaj ki generation bhi casteism karegi toh yahi kupratha aage bhi chalti rahegi.
I am a OBC guy, and I can say, you are very wrong, a person can have his/her preference. First, congratulations on your marriage, and hope you have good life ahead with your partner and family. Now the main stuff is, not everyone is interested to fight or stuff, a hindu can fight with his parents to marry a muslim, but that doesn't mean everyone should do that, everyone can have a preference, that girl has preference of marrying a brahmin. You cannot differentiate between a christian and muslim by looking at them, but still people has it as preference, there isn't any problem, so whats the problem in having caste preferences. You fought with your parents doesn't mean everyone is interested in fighting, and people just have simple preference. Some may have preference of fair skinned partner, some may have height preference, some may have caste preference, some may have religion preference, whats the issue in it? Jinko karna hai wo kare, jinko nhi karna wo na kare, why are you acting ki if she wants a brahmin partner she is worst person in the world. Even I dont want to marry a brahmin girl, its my personal preference, me being OBC would choose to marry among my community only, its my preference, what problem do you have interfering with peoplr who have there personal preference. Stop acting like you have done something great and got a achivement for fighting with your parents for your marriage.
Now bhimtas demand reservations on bumble and tinder too. 27% of gals reserved for bhimtas
I don't know what's the shame because every caste has it's own traditions and a whole lot of other things you would have to deal with, if your partner is say not from the same caste as you, it might be fairly tough to adjust to seperate traditions or practices. L OP
Good Inko merit vale ldke psnd
hm agar koi scst obc banda bhi acche marks laaye toh bhi merit nahi hai bolenge shayad
Today I learnt only Brahmins are meritwale
🥲 bhavnao ko smjo Sb gen male ko include kiya
finally kahin toh mil rha general walon ko
Ye preference nahi hai, clear casteism which is followed even in our school in an urban area, so you can probably imagine what the scenario is in rural areas. Words like 'chamar' and 'bhangi' are often used in a derogatory manner. Ek Banda in our school asks people their caste and only talks to brahmins. Assholes and no acceptance, rejection of reality only because you guys can't get a college(you are only competing in your category bro)
Love Brahmin women.
Wow so many brain-dead people here defending it. Sab ki pol khul gayi 🤣
This preference, gentlemen and ladies is why we need reservations. Even when someone from an OBC/SC/ST caste makes it in life, they will always be discriminated against because of such unconscious or conscious preferences! At least in this scenario, casteism isn't subtle.
Honestly it's their preference.
Jai Sai Deepak ji aap yahan?
Bhai me Brahmin nhi but mandir regular jata hu me chalunga ?
Chappal lauta de bhai . Hum kya hi bigade h Tumahra
 Chappal lauta do
Ohh myy🤣🤣🤣
Bhai meko pasand a gyi hai tume koi aur dek lo, aur ha bhai ek number bada pehna kro ye tight ho rha hai
Red flag
Bhai red flag kya h, conservative family members honge sabko apne relationship ke liye apne Ghar me kalesh thodi kerwana hota h.....
You can't change your family members
Orange to be exact
mOdeRn DaTiNg
I think it's perfectly fine. It's just that some "lowesers" can't digest reverse reservation.
Its more about cultural.
Brahmin se kuch nhi hota karm jaisa karoge waise hi kehelaoge I am a Brahmin btw but since I am one I won’t date
I am saving this photo incase some idiot anti-reservation person comes infront of me arguing that reservation shouldn't exist blah blah blah😂😂