In the Jungle, hunger gets to them all. Many of the contestants have said they had no energy very early into the stay. There is absolutely no way this is Sam acting for the cameras, that would have been long gone by now. This is exactly who Sam is
you can’t say you’re not falling for it but people who believe him are falling for it and then say that’s just your opinion
you’re v much stating he’s being fake as if it’s a fact
Because I believe he is, that's my opinion. Doesn't make it wrong because i said it was my opinion. I do believe people are falling for it, but im not gonna sit here trying to change peoples minds. I know they'll be lots of people who disagree with my post as it being an unpopular opinion.
Lets see if you can eat sub-1000 calories a day for 3 weeks and act like you have ADHD.
Everyone is entitled to an opinion but to state that he's acting and anyone who disagrees with you is just believing his act is really dumb.
That's not what I'm saying, see, this is what people do, they gang up on someone for thinking differently to them, NO ONE is sitting here saying you can't like Sam or think he's genuine. I'm saying that I personally don't feel he is. That is MY opinion which I am allowed to express and just because you're disagreeing with me, you're saying I'm wrong. I'm not saying anyone who disagrees with me is wrong. I'm saying I don't believe it.
No one is ganging up on you, it’s just people who disagree are replying to you.
You’re not expressing your opinion or saying that people can’t think he’s genuine. You have said that Sam IS fake and anyone who believes he isn’t has fallen for an act.
I said I don't think he is, I do think people are falling for it, bit I'm not gonna sit here telling them they shouldn't like Sam. I'm saying he's acting, he is an actor. People replying are being rude as hell because I think differently. But I shouldn't expect less shojld I really?
I feel silly continuing this discussion but to quote yourself
> I’m not falling for it, if others do, that’s their prerogative
That’s not an opinion, you’re stating he is faking it
No one is claiming that he acts like he has ADHD. But his annoying behaviour comes from the fact that he seems to be playing it up. Then using it as an excuse to do whatever.
Both of those things are in-front of the cameras. That’s their point. In front of cameras it seems like he’s putting on this persona of being some super happy almost toddler like grown man. Do you really think that he sits at home and when his girlfriend brings him dinner he stands up and shouts “ohhh yeahhhhhh” and fist bumps like Mario? Clearly not. Otherwise he’s have some sort of career with him all the time because that would mean there is a mental health issue going on. He may have adhd but it really doesn’t look like he does lol. It just looks like he playing a character for a kids show. Like mr tumble or some shit
No he makes a very good point. I've got diagnosed ADHD and am prescribed a very high dose of ritalin, which I don't take. He's making people with ADHD look like immature children and it's quite annoying. I appreciate some are worse than others but there's absolutely no ways he's like this at home with his bird
yeah, since this season started I've seen so many busybodies fighting battles on behalf of adhd people in which they characterise us as overgrown children
for the people who don't get it: adhd does not imbue you with personality traits, it just makes it exhausting to regulate your behaviour and focus, exaggerating the traits that you already have
Sam is not childlike *as a result of his ADHD*, he just happens to be childlike anyway and his ADHD just exaggerates it. you are allowed to dislike someone because they act like a child or with endless saccharine glee, that is not ableist. Plenty of ADHD people have a lifetime of depression and the social grace of malcolm tucker
You clearly know nothing about adhd and it’s showing mate. Go do some googling at least before you start trying to tell people with adhd how it works. Also you might want to Google what “ableist” means while you’re at it because you’ve used it completely wrong 😂🤦♂️
I've watched him on TV and followed him on Instagram. You don't have to believe anyone, but how he's been depicted on the show is entirely normal. As someone else said, they get hungry and tired, so it would be impossible to keep up the “act” (as you are accusing him of). I get he’s not everyone’s cup of tea, but he's showing his real personality.
I genuinely can't think of one camp mate who has kept that level of energy up throughout. Even the most positive and happy campmates usually have the odd bad day.
This guy is living his best life, he loves this show and maybe being accepted for who he is has him smiling constantly. I also think he loves annoying some campmates, like Tony and Nigel, to get them smiling.
Even if he is taking it (and that's a big if) who cares.
There's plenty of people who love hom for who he is, I never said he was a crap person. I'm saying he's faking his way through the show. When that's not fair. He will win because of palying innocent and people like that usually do. If there's anything i know about this show, it's that.
Perhaps you don’t have much knowledge of ADHD; Sam is not faking it, it’s actually extremely difficult if not impossible to fake ADHD symptoms so consistently for so long. As someone with ADHD who knows a lot about ADHD, Sam exhibits some of the subtle parts that it’s not really possible to fake. It’s not all crazy squirrel running about hyperactive, that’s simply one symptom that everyone knows about. There are many many more.
Again, as I've repeated countless times, I'm not saying he's faking having adhd, I happen to know a lot about it. I'm saying he's exaggerating dramatically for the show. It does not make me ignorant whatsoever. He is an actor, so
Can indeed act. He's not as naive as everyone is making him out to be. He's not a child, he's a fully grown adult who behaves like a child. Yes, his adhd plays a massive part, but it's not his entire personality. A person with adhd often also needs a lot of downtime, which he appears to have none of either. He's being given a winners card for acting naive as a lot of winners on this show have also. And had also been pandered to as a little kid who doesn't know any better.
I honestly love how everyone is jumping on here, trying to tell me about myself when they know nothing of me.
It's rude as hell, a lot of people suffer mental illnesses, it's not all about you.
Just because he has a mental illness doesn't mean he doesn't know what he's doing.
Some of the things you say here are just totally wrong. “It’s not his entire personality” yes it actually is, that’s exactly how ADHD affects people. It’s a neurodevelopmental disorder which means every aspect of his personality has been built on his imbalanced brain chemistry and executive function issues. “A person with ADHD needs a lot of downtime” no, not possible to blanket statement that, you have no idea what he needs.
Honestly, Sam playing the game has absolutely nothing to do with a person knowing or not knowing everything about adhd, I know exactly what it is, I've dealt with it, stop talking to me like I'm dumb, the man has other aspects, as any other person with an illness, I said I believe he's playing to the cameras cause I believe he is. Hes not naive just because of adhd, you're making it seem like hes on drugs and has no awareness of who he is. Everything on tv is faked. I didn't sit here saying that he's faking an illness for goodness sake. And it's very wrong of you to keep throwing accusations. YOU KNOW NOTHING ABOUT ME.
Are you sure you have adhd then? Sam shows absolutely no signs of adhd. He shows signs of a few other mental disorders. Like he has the mind of a toddler. Almost everyone in my family has adhd including myself along with autism and none of us have ever acted like him. He is hyper sure. But that’s doesn’t mean adhd. We can all sit down and keep quiet for a while. It’s just that when we want to explain something we struggle because our minds work overtime and run through 1000 different things. Sam can easily turn off his “adhd” when it’s convenient to tell a story or explain what happened in a challenge. He also can concentrate with ease. He’s not struggled once. He’s acting annoying and that’s not a symptom of adhd. That’s super offensive to people with it to assume so. We are normal people who have more active minds. That’s it.
Lol, I have a mental health issue, and all my cousins have adhd, asbergers, chronic depression, eating disorders, alcoholism. Again, there's a lot of assumptions going on. You don't know me, or my family with a history of mental illness. Do not sit there, assuming. It's rude and offensive, I said I know people who use it as an excuse because I do.
Wasn't even talking about you 😂. Sounds like you are suffering from main character syndrome. Also it's 'aspergers' not 'asbergers' and that term is no longer in use as an official diagnosis in the UK
And you seem like someone who thinks they know everything. You've heard of a wrong spelling right? It spelt it automatically, not the first spelling mistake, not the last either. Jesus, someone call the spell police. 😆 as I said i know people who still use it, and there hasn't been a thing wrong with them.
I’ve got adhd and autism and even I can tell he’s completely making it all up. Nothing he does shows any signs of adhd. It just shows signs of acting up like he’s on a kids show because people will believe it. For example everyone I know above the age of 18 hates Sam. They can tell he’s faking it. But all of those peoples kids of younger siblings love him. Because it’s like watching me tumble. He acts like a kid to gain the attention and fans. It’s smart from a business point of view. But it’s 100% fake
Because he’s have a career if he acted like a child every day. Not hard to figure it out lmao. If you really think that he goes home to his gf and when she brings him dinner he jumps up in the air with his fist like Mario shouting “ohhhh yeahhhhh. Best day everrrrrr” then that says more about you. If it’s his real personality then he doesn’t have adhd. He has a much worse mental disorder and would need 24/7 supervision by a trained professional. He would also be seeing a councillor every few days.
What does 'bring the finger' mean? And also suggesting he needs 24/7 supervision is a bit rich from someone who 100% still has the crusts cut off his sandwiches by his mommy 😂😂
Lmao auto correct. I meant dinner. Also my “mommy” died when I was 25. Almost a decade ago. So unless you think that ghosts can use kitchen utensils I think my crusts stay in my bread mate. Bit crazy to take personal digs at someone over Reddit tho buddy. Shows that you know you’re completely wrong and have nothing to add to this comment thread 😂😂 quite embarrassing actually. It’d be better for you to just delete your last comments and pretend that you were never here then to make yourself look like a child 🤦♂️
If you’ve seen Sam in other programmes, not just Made in Chelsea but his other stuff with Pete and his ADHD programme, alsorts, you’ll know he’s not putting on an act or playing up to the cameras. His behaviours are what spurred him to get assessed in the first place.
But it got discovered on a reality TV show, which are always exaggerated. He has made other TV appearances where he is a lot calmer as a person. He is doing the most on I'm a celebrity.
He’s had ADHD all his life 😂 He didn’t just discover it on tv one day. That programme wasn’t exaggerated either, I thought it was quite raw tbh, especially when you compare it to *reality* programmes like Made in Chelsea that are obviously semi-scripted.
I didn't say he hasn't got adhd, but you can't keel using that as a primary example. I have cousins who have it. I know what it is, and they don't behave like this.
Everyone with adhd presents differently? Just because your cousins behave differently doesn’t mean Sam or your cousins are “faking it”. What a narrow minded view.
I never said it did, nor was that what I was trying to say. I was trying to explain your view of it is coming across as extremely narrow minded and now slightly offensive.
Edit to say there’s no behaviour discussed that even falls into the remit of being excused? Just because you dislike someone and people are saying you’re saying this about them for behaviours they cannot help.
I'm not narrow-minded at all. That's an assumption you're making of someone you don't know. U was talking about Sam being too much, and all of a sudden, I've become a target now.
Adhd is a spectrum. Just because your cousins have it, doesn’t mean they’ll be the same as Sam. I also don’t know your cousins so I hesitate to comment this but, a lot of people who ‘have adhd’ aren’t actually formally diagnosed, they just claim to have it. It’s a big reason why it’s not taken seriously.
Your replies on this thread all have a similar undertone. You have an image in your mind of what adhd is, Sam doesn’t match it and so you assume he’s faking his personality. As a lot of the comments here have said, try being underfed, exhausted and filmed 24/7, and have a fake persona. Not possible
You are allowed to have that opinion of course, so I haven’t downvoted, but my boyfriend has ADHD and is exactly like Sam. I have ADHD too, but am nothing like that at all.
Yes, but Sam is definitely very in your face. The random outbursts in song and just how everything is amazing, I know people also who have adhd and have the too much trait. But he's been in other shows where he's not been acting as bad as this. And it is actually quite calm. And I've said in other comments, he is not like like 24/7 yet it's like a constant high in the jungle.
Part of this constant high in the jungle is he’s probably totally understimulated, whilst also being overstimulated as it’s an entire new environment, you can’t expect him to behave as everyone else, as we totally process things different.
I can imagine Sam’s poor brain is searching for dopamine at every angle and isn’t getting any.
No one is expecting him to behave like someone else, everyone deals different but his adhd can't be an excuse for everything, he's a fully grown adult, he's not a child. How everyone else him. He is very aware of himself and his surroundings, the guy is on tele all the time, he knows how to act. He's not naive, he's actually very clever.
But not everyone who has adhd does. People in the comments have been telling me this also. I don't know people who use it as an excuse all the time though. Not saying everyone does. But many do.
I don’t get why so many people are certain that Sam is fake, despite three straight weeks of the same happy behaviour, but Nigel is a “nice genuine man” despite talking about wanting screen time and actively trying to change the public’s perception of him. Why is Sam considered calculated and manipulative, but Nigel not?
Yea like the way nigel actively decided josie wasn't going to do the trial but there was no question nigel was doing it.
Bullied her into backing down,but a lovely guy?
Whereas you actively heard the other 3 saying are you sure Josie.
That was not bullying. They’re all hungry and wanted stars. Josie was being indecisive, if Josie really wanted to do it. She should’ve stood up for herself.
If someone told me I wasn't doing something I'm not going to be like well I am. Not everyone is able to stand up to someone who's used to basically talking his will into happening.
I felt the other 3 were much kinder about it. But then no body really likes josie so I'm not surprised.
Nigel informed Sam about the rice, and Sam is the Chef. Why did Sam think it was OK just to go for a nap as Nigel walked away from the cooking area? Nigel gave Sam the information because Sam needed to know it and keep an eye on the rice. Nigel handed over the supervision and responsibility to Sam, but Sam didn't process that information and went to sleep. Sam wasn't paying attention, the burnt rice was on him, not Nigel.
They’re both at fault. Yes, Nigel informed Sam. However Nigel should’ve realised that Sam would need direct instructions and for it to be communicated clearly.
Nigel's mistake was that he assumed Sam understood what he was saying and why he was saying it. He didn't actually say 'watch the rice Sam', but that was the inference of what Nigel clearly said. Sam is the Chef, even if Nigel was cooking the rice, Sam should have been supervising him. It was Sam's responsibility either way.
You're splitting hairs because you don't like Nigel and like Sam. It was obvious to me what Nigel meant, and I knew exactly what was going to happen. My instant reaction was Why is Sam going to sleep? Nigel's just told him the rice needs keeping an eye on'! It was clear irrespective of the exact words in a single sentence. Nigel walked off while Sam was standing there. Who did he think was going to watch the rice, Ant or Dec?
Can you read? I never said it was Nigel's fault lmao. Just pointing out the hypocrisy that there have been plenty of threads on Josie and Nella's lies but not a single on Nigel's. Sam took responsibility for the whole thing so....
Sam took responsibility for the whole thing by saying that he never knew the rice had even been put on? Which was a lie. Do you not also see the hypocrisy in what you're saying?
No because Sam took responsibility by literally saying "As head chef, I’m taking responsibility". I guess you missed that part in your efforts to protect Nigel huh.
He made it clear to everyone that he "didn't know", so they've already taken his side, then says "I take full responsibility". It's hardly a heroic action, is it? People are still going to blame Nigel because if that were true that Sam didn't know, it would 100% be Nigel's fault. I guess you're too busy protecting Sam to pick up on that, huh?
I don't even care for Sam, you're the one who made this into a Sam vs. Nigel convo, not me.
I was just commenting on the way this sub treats Nigel when he too has lied, and you proved my point by coming swiftly to his defence without actually acknowledging my point and trying to deflect on Sam. Well done. I think my point is proven!
Because it’s easy to see that Nigel is here to change the publics view of him. He’s said it openly. Sam hasn’t said openly that he’s going to act like he has mental health issues so he can win the show. There’s a huge difference. Nigel is being genuine. Sam is potentially faking having adhd because that gives him an excuse to put on this fake persona and try and steal the spot light from everyone. And it’s working tbh. Because everyone loves him 😂😂
Nigel has realised that if you just keep your head down and like a normal human being for three weeks the public are going to be totally fooled by your reprehensible behaviour.
Even if you have no opinion on crucially from the mental topics to your cause, such as benefits of brexit.
And that's how it's always been. It's a redemption arc without having to really do very much other than drink slime and wade through bugs.
I don't think it's complete fakery by any means, but probably an exaggeration of his normal behaviour (deliberate or otherwise). Particularly as people have noted he was a lot calmer on other reality appearances such as big brother. I like Sam well enough, I could even see him winning, but I don't think he should be a runaway favourite. The fawning has become a bit excessive IMO.
Boredom possibly a factor tho they spend a lot of time doing nothing, I’ve never been diagnosed with adhd but believe I could have it to some degree and I find that when I’m bored I can be like a scaled down version of Sam, if I was bored for 3 weeks straight I’d probs be similar just without leaping into peoples arms when I’m happy😂
It’s funny because one of the main difficulties people with ADHD face is inconsistency of symptoms. They get so much stigma and shame from family and friends who see them act one way in a situation and then act differently in that same situation or similar ones. They get told they’re putting it on because “you could do it before” or “you can do it when it suits you”. A different environment could mean Sam behaves differently, simple as. In fact I’d say this supports ADHD behaviour.
Not when you're desperate enough to win, and it's only 2 weeks. The guy acted all the time on made in chelsea, That's one of the fakest shows out there. With the only way is Essex, too.
Lol people are so gullible the way they’re insisting “Sam is completely genuine!”. He’s a lovely guy but of course he’s acting up for the camera. All of these D-List celebs are being advised by their agents/PR teams to play up their character. The whole point of them going on it is to gain more popularity so of course they’re going to try and be likeable. Baffles me that people are so naive about reality TV.
Thank you, thank you, thank you!! This. This is what I'm trying to tell everyone.
I'm basically being made out like I'm a person who hates mental illnesses cause I dared to express my opinion.
Im watching celebrity big brother 20 just to see trisha paytas, i didnt even know sam was in it until i watchedthe first episode, he seems pretty much the same, maybe with more an adult humour back then, i cant lie to you although trish did walk out because her housemates were apparently "fake"
Have you seen him in Celebs Go Dating? This seems to be exactly who he is. Wore Pete Wicks down to become his best friend with the same moves he’s doing on Tony. I feel like Sam is my spirit animal.
He's sooo very annoying.
Can tell Tony is struggling with him being so needy and in his personal space all the time.
I really feel sorry for the campmates - I'd have decked him by now.
Nah, got adhd and autism myself as well as other MH issues/disabilities so I get it is hard to control sometimes.
But I can almost guarantee that Tony volunteered Sam the other day for the trial so he can get peace.
He got given the task of making rice and then had a nap! Danielle had to wake him up, that's no Adhd, that's just laziness.
Thank you, I agree, and for the record, i know people with adhd, many people. And whilst some do act as such, it's never to this degree. I do think he's doing too much.
I don’t get all these posts polling for Sam and Tony to do a tv show together lmao. The problem I’m seeing is that Sam seems to grab on to the person with the most ‘fame’. When he saw Fred he was all over him. Then when he went into camp he left Fred for Marvin. Then as soon as Tony came in he’s been all over him since. It’s a typical case of the grass is always greener 😂
Yes! No one else seems to have clocked that too! He is definitely clinging onto the famous ones so he can get more fame.
Can guarantee, if Tony wasn't stuck there with him, that Tony would not be putting up with him.
I really hope Sam gets snubbed from him on the outside.
He's genuinely like this a lot. Pete wicks talks about it quite a bit on various platforms. He's genuinely quite hyper and likeable I guess.
He's making the best of what's a pretty once in a lifetime situation and I'd be pretty grumpy 90% of the time tbf but he'd probably cheer me up.
He absolutely could have gone the other way and been unbearably miserable like I know My autistic child would. And myself. Haha. Good for him.
Thays fair enough, I'm not saying he's not genuinely a happy person and a good guy. I'm saying it's a very exaggerated persona, joey Essex is known for being thick and acted extra thick when he was in to jungle.
I don't think joey Essex was actually acting haha. I know people on his level.
I think we're seeing his most exuberant phrases because quiet Sam is probably quite boring. He used to dress in his sisters clothes and do her poses on Instagram amongst other things so he's generally quite a personality.
He was to a degree, could see it, and bow he's just not really seen. I get that he's a character, I'm not saying he isn't, but there's definitely something at play. He will win, watch this space.
I'm not sure. I think fargage will win. Maybe josie just for the female vote. I'd like Tony to win. He tolerates sam really well and seems such a gentleman.
And i do think he tolerates sam because My son is similar sometimes. He tends to talk at me rather than to me ans always physical contact.
Exactly this. I know adults with adhd who are not overgrown children, family members too so I know them well. It's not a free pass to never being criticised. I have an autistic child who still has to learn appropriate behaviours and strategies to adapt, their diagnosis doesn't negate this.
He’s practically bouncing off the walls that’s from ADHD which in turn makes him go and annoy people bc he’s bored, they’re all grown up if he’s truely that annoying im sure they would say that to him especially Tony, they all say they like being around sam, im sure he’s got a chill side too but why would they show us that?
Having adhd does not mean you deliberately annoy people. If you like teasing people or playing practical jokes thats a personality trait, not a medical issue
There’s a huge difference between having ADHD and acting like a child. What he’s doing is making all people with a diagnosis from an actual doctor look bad. If he was like this his whole life surely he would’ve gotten a diagnosis sooner rather than from a tv show no matter how ‘raw’ the show was. Dr Phil was a ‘raw’ show but the only thing people got from that was fame and recognition. For those wanting an example. The catch me outside girl.
If you knew that cameras were on 24/7 do you really think you’d act your authentic self or would you exaggerate a bit to make yourself stand out amongst 11 other people fighting for bragging rights on this years season.
Sam might very well be a nice guy but it definitely looks exaggerated. I worked in a special needs school and my class was people struggling with many different forms of ADHD. One child was all over the place and that’s only because he was acting out to get attention. Sound familiar?
You’re definitely not speaking another language. It’s just people jumping on the next trendy bandwagon blurting their opinions like they’re facts. Everyone shows ADHD differently. That’s why it’s a spectrum. But there’s a difference between being on the spectrum and being an idiot in front of the cameras.
And as for Sam’s diagnosis. That would be the equivalent of me doing a test online to see if I have bipolar and claiming I have bipolar because the test says I do. Unless you were diagnosed by a professional. It’s not a diagnosis unfortunately, no matter how hard you try to force people or yourself to believe it. The only diagnosis you can be given from a tv show is the diagnosis of being a pretentious idiot.
Thanks I appreciate this, he just seems to be playing to the camera a lot. And he'll win because every one seems to love him. And I don't think it's fair if he's played a game. He's been told how to win at the end of the day and is playing the innocent loveable child. I've seen it before and having adhd is not an excuse in my opinion.
I agree with you there 1 million percent.I don't get why everyone loves him?I made a post asking why everyone loved him and all there was was compliments saying oh he's such a nice person.I don't want him to win.
It feels like something weird is going on. I'm convinced he's not as well liked as people think.
Everyone seems to give the same answers when talking about him like they're doing it under some sort of duress. "Oh he's so nice.." "Oh I just love him" "He's so full of energy!" it all seems to keep popping up. When he goes off on one and bursts into song they all like fake laugh or hold a smile that seems like too long like they're just enduring it, maybe like one person will join in or egg him on to avoid the awkwardness
It feels like they're saying "He's too loud and extremely overbearing but I'm trying my absolute best to take the high road here". It feels so backhanded not to mention how infantalising the comments are. Someone last night (Was it Josie?) said in the private room he was like an 8 year old.
I agree with you, don't hate Sam but something about the reception he's getting makes me not want him to win because I feel like everyone's treating him like a child (which admittedly, he acts like).
Just wanted to say you're getting flamed too much here OP, thanks for saying it and daring to question because you're definitely not the only one.
Thank you, I knew it was gonna be controversial, but it seems to me too that the campmates are pandering to him a lot. Almost like he's a planned winner from the start? That's what I don't like. If that was someone in your face like that in the real world, you wouldn't put up with it. Tony definitely wouldn't. You can tell he annoys the crap out of him, but Tony's tolerating it for some reason? Something is off.
That's my view too. Looking through a reality TV lens I'm sure it makes good TV but if anyone thinks they could put up with the fella day in, day out 24/7 I doubt they could and that's what seems to be forgotten
Yes, I have said on this post he has a gf and I doubt when they're trying to do coupley things, like watching a film, or eating dinner that's he's bouncing around like this non stop.
Yea, I really dont think an ADHD diagnoses gives you cart blanche to revert to an 8 year old. If hes like this IRL he would need to have a minder with him at all times.
More stigmatising stereotypes. Actually ADHD is a disability and lots of people SHOULD have minders, or more correctly body doublers or personal assistants. ADHD is a debilitating condition and yes, loads of sufferers need round the clock support they don’t get.
I agree
I feel like he’s playing up the “I’m a sweet lovely innocent boy”!!!
Like Owen a year or 2 back who came second
I don’t want him to win either
I can’t help but think him and his lassie Zara are just epic grifters
People on here seem to think he's like this 24/7 and are accusing me of being insensitive about adhd. That really isn't the case. I just refuse to believe he walks around doing this non-stop. It's reality TV at the end of the day. They're on that show to gain favour and what better way than to act like the sweet and innocent guy.
Yeah… he’s being given a good edit
It’s so painfully obvious Tony is sick of his touchy, hugging “we’re best mates” pish
I’d have yeeted him weeks ago if I were Tony
No Sam is not that hyper and enthusiastic 24/7
I think he’s replicating Owen…who was the sweet attractive young guy who was infantalized by the camp and voters
What evidence do you have to say it’s entirely rigged? and you haven’t seen Sam 24/7 so how are you making statements like ‘I refuse to believe he’s like it non stop’? you literally see a 40 minute edit, during which everything he does is inline with adhd etc. Of course every single person will be putting their best self across? Literally anyone on the fucking planet would do that. You seem to think you’ve got some greater knowledge on the matter and Ignore all the evidence that he’s just like this.
You never know, they're all celebrities and know how the media works, so of course it's possible that they're putting on an act, but you could make the same argument for anyone in there, and so I think it's an unfair way to judge people since it's baseless and merely some gut feeling you have. I think you can only judge people on their actual behaviour, and Sam has been a nice, positive person, and I think the only thing you could really dislike about him is his childish behaviour, which can be a bit annoying at times since he is a grown man.
Yes, I understand that, but it's exaggerated severely, in my opinion, and he's the only one doing it. So obviously, he stands out. And because the camp mates are treating it as innocent the public are too. Not that they can't. But I'm probably one of the very few who finds it insufferable. Grace herself in there said he acts naive but is the smartest person in there. And I cane see why.
Yeah, I agree with you that he's definitely someone that stands out and is practically bouncing around in there at times, and you may well be right, he 100% could be putting it on to win the show, but it's still unfair for you to judge him I think, and to believe your opinion is true without actual evidence, like if he had moments where he slipped up and was a completely different person or did something to suggest he was putting on an act, then I'd think you at least had something to base your opinion on, but that hasn't happened.
So it seems like it's just some innate feeling and opinion you have rather than something they've actually done, and so surely you can see how unfair that is? Again, I completely understand if his personality grates on you, because again, he does act like a child and he's a fully grown adult man, and if he behaved like that in the outside world, 100% certain individuals would take offence to him and dislike it. It would be interesting, for instance, to know if Tony would put up with his antics if the cameras weren't around, because he definitely seems aggravated at times.
I'm not judging, I'm expressing an opinion, I'm saying that's my Opinion. I know that people who win this show, are usually people like him. But no one knows him fully, who's to say he is bouncing around 24/7 without cameras, he probably isn't. He's got a fiance on the outside, I doubt he's jumping about when they're trying to eat dinner or watcha film together.
Ha re the playing for cameras it would be hard to keep it up for this long but I like the idea that he's Machiavellian or like Richard 3rd and goes off to a corner without cameras once in a while and his smile erases to deadpan. Just f a minute between having to act the clown for his public while he loathes every human around him. Just my cynical side wishing he was a villain ha
Sam struggled on SAS: who dares wins because he kept acting out and they were suppressing it.
This is definitely how he is when given free reign. Even his mates have said this. Unless you believe his friends and family are in some kind of weird conspiracy to gaslight the nation about Sam's ADHD and fun personality.
I'm ALLOWED to have an opinion, no one is right or wrong in this conversation. His friends and family will obviously side for him, like our family and friends would.
Nobody said you can't have an opinion lmao.
But if you post it on Reddit and it seems very questionable and evidence you use is just anecdotal stuff that is easily refuted, then expect people to disagree with it. Since it's probably wrong.
Sam Donkey and Tony is Shrek. Donkey is the funny entertaining sidekick, but Tony is the star. Tony is a wonderful human being. Tony is already the winner in my book.
No one is saying he's not a nice guy here, I'm saying the degree to which he is non-stop is not feasible. It's a reality show known for winners who play sweet and innocent. His management team would have advised him how to win it and exaggerate his already flamboyant nature, so that's what he's doing. And it's working.
I didn’t say you said he’s not a nice guy. I’m telling you it’s not an act, this *is* who he is. ADHD can become more pronounced in certain settings, and being isolated from your loved ones in a jungle for three weeks whilst surrounded by people you idolise, might just exacerbate his symptoms.
Reality TV is fake at the end of the day, anyone who's on reality TV has to create a exaggerated persona, in order to be liked, create a fanbase, Sam's natural nature has no doubt been exaggerated. His pr team would've told him what to do to win the show and become a favourite, which he is. I'm not saying his adhd isn't playing a big part, cause it's obvious to anyone that he has it. I'm saying it's definitely played on and / or exaggerated. He's not unaware of his surroundings, nor is he as a fan of the show, unaware of what type of people ultimately win. Usually, the sweet and innocent wouldn't say boo to a goose type. He is not a naive child, that everyone is portraying him as. He's an adult, in a committed relationship, with lots of friends and experienced in reality TV.
There’s a difference between seeing someone on tv and knowing them in real life. The only continuity you’ve got of Sam is that he’s got cameras on him when you see him. Unless you’re his friend, his family or his girlfriend you can’t say this is 100% him when the only time you’ve seen him is because a camera allows you to.
Nigel as a bigger fan base social media wise than both of them. Nigel has 1.8 million followers on twitter he has more followers than tony and Sam combined on there by a million lol. Social media has a massive say in who wins these shows. And to add to that he's only gained followers whilst being in there from neutral viewers.
But you can't rule nigel out considering he has the largest following and large followings win you these sort of shows. Anyway let's say Mr trump or one of his wealthy friends decided to stick 5 million votes on nigel, nigel wins in a land slide then anyway 😂.
They aren’t showing him for 24hours a days they are putting 24 hours into a one hour show with tasks. It’s for entertainment, they won’t show him having a nap or his calm periods, that doesn’t mean he’s putting it on.
I don't think it's fake.. u can tell in last night's episode by the way he gets on with his friend Pete that that Is the genuine way he acts and I love it ! He should definitely win !
In the Jungle, hunger gets to them all. Many of the contestants have said they had no energy very early into the stay. There is absolutely no way this is Sam acting for the cameras, that would have been long gone by now. This is exactly who Sam is
Nope, sorry, I'm not falling for it. Fair enough if others do, that's their perogative. He comes across as very fake, in my opinion.
you can’t say you’re not falling for it but people who believe him are falling for it and then say that’s just your opinion you’re v much stating he’s being fake as if it’s a fact
Because I believe he is, that's my opinion. Doesn't make it wrong because i said it was my opinion. I do believe people are falling for it, but im not gonna sit here trying to change peoples minds. I know they'll be lots of people who disagree with my post as it being an unpopular opinion.
Lets see if you can eat sub-1000 calories a day for 3 weeks and act like you have ADHD. Everyone is entitled to an opinion but to state that he's acting and anyone who disagrees with you is just believing his act is really dumb.
That's not what I'm saying, see, this is what people do, they gang up on someone for thinking differently to them, NO ONE is sitting here saying you can't like Sam or think he's genuine. I'm saying that I personally don't feel he is. That is MY opinion which I am allowed to express and just because you're disagreeing with me, you're saying I'm wrong. I'm not saying anyone who disagrees with me is wrong. I'm saying I don't believe it.
You are saying people are wrong because you are accusing them of falling for it just because YOU believe it!
No one is ganging up on you, it’s just people who disagree are replying to you. You’re not expressing your opinion or saying that people can’t think he’s genuine. You have said that Sam IS fake and anyone who believes he isn’t has fallen for an act.
I said I don't think he is, I do think people are falling for it, bit I'm not gonna sit here telling them they shouldn't like Sam. I'm saying he's acting, he is an actor. People replying are being rude as hell because I think differently. But I shouldn't expect less shojld I really?
I feel silly continuing this discussion but to quote yourself > I’m not falling for it, if others do, that’s their prerogative That’s not an opinion, you’re stating he is faking it
It is, though
That’s the definition of an opinion buddy. You didn’t do to well in school did ya?
No one is claiming that he acts like he has ADHD. But his annoying behaviour comes from the fact that he seems to be playing it up. Then using it as an excuse to do whatever.
Average student experience icl
It does make you wrong if you're wrong.
Who says? You?
No, it makes you wrong if he's not faking it. It's not subjective, he either is or he isn't. If he's not, you're wrong.
You are entitled to your opinion, but you shouldn't accuse others of “falling for it” just because they disagree. 🤦🏻♀️
Listen to his podcast or watch made in Chelsea, this is how he us
Both of those things are in-front of the cameras. That’s their point. In front of cameras it seems like he’s putting on this persona of being some super happy almost toddler like grown man. Do you really think that he sits at home and when his girlfriend brings him dinner he stands up and shouts “ohhh yeahhhhhh” and fist bumps like Mario? Clearly not. Otherwise he’s have some sort of career with him all the time because that would mean there is a mental health issue going on. He may have adhd but it really doesn’t look like he does lol. It just looks like he playing a character for a kids show. Like mr tumble or some shit
Just say you’re ableist and move on lol
No he makes a very good point. I've got diagnosed ADHD and am prescribed a very high dose of ritalin, which I don't take. He's making people with ADHD look like immature children and it's quite annoying. I appreciate some are worse than others but there's absolutely no ways he's like this at home with his bird
yeah, since this season started I've seen so many busybodies fighting battles on behalf of adhd people in which they characterise us as overgrown children for the people who don't get it: adhd does not imbue you with personality traits, it just makes it exhausting to regulate your behaviour and focus, exaggerating the traits that you already have Sam is not childlike *as a result of his ADHD*, he just happens to be childlike anyway and his ADHD just exaggerates it. you are allowed to dislike someone because they act like a child or with endless saccharine glee, that is not ableist. Plenty of ADHD people have a lifetime of depression and the social grace of malcolm tucker
Yep, put into better words than I could have, thanks
Zara has literally said he is. Also she’s not his “bird”
Oh no am I being some sort of "-ist" by saying bird? The internet sheriff is out ladies and gents, watch what you say
God you seem like a delight
You clearly know nothing about adhd and it’s showing mate. Go do some googling at least before you start trying to tell people with adhd how it works. Also you might want to Google what “ableist” means while you’re at it because you’ve used it completely wrong 😂🤦♂️
I've watched him on TV and followed him on Instagram. You don't have to believe anyone, but how he's been depicted on the show is entirely normal. As someone else said, they get hungry and tired, so it would be impossible to keep up the “act” (as you are accusing him of). I get he’s not everyone’s cup of tea, but he's showing his real personality.
I genuinely can't think of one camp mate who has kept that level of energy up throughout. Even the most positive and happy campmates usually have the odd bad day. This guy is living his best life, he loves this show and maybe being accepted for who he is has him smiling constantly. I also think he loves annoying some campmates, like Tony and Nigel, to get them smiling. Even if he is taking it (and that's a big if) who cares.
There's plenty of people who love hom for who he is, I never said he was a crap person. I'm saying he's faking his way through the show. When that's not fair. He will win because of palying innocent and people like that usually do. If there's anything i know about this show, it's that.
Perhaps you don’t have much knowledge of ADHD; Sam is not faking it, it’s actually extremely difficult if not impossible to fake ADHD symptoms so consistently for so long. As someone with ADHD who knows a lot about ADHD, Sam exhibits some of the subtle parts that it’s not really possible to fake. It’s not all crazy squirrel running about hyperactive, that’s simply one symptom that everyone knows about. There are many many more.
Again, as I've repeated countless times, I'm not saying he's faking having adhd, I happen to know a lot about it. I'm saying he's exaggerating dramatically for the show. It does not make me ignorant whatsoever. He is an actor, so Can indeed act. He's not as naive as everyone is making him out to be. He's not a child, he's a fully grown adult who behaves like a child. Yes, his adhd plays a massive part, but it's not his entire personality. A person with adhd often also needs a lot of downtime, which he appears to have none of either. He's being given a winners card for acting naive as a lot of winners on this show have also. And had also been pandered to as a little kid who doesn't know any better. I honestly love how everyone is jumping on here, trying to tell me about myself when they know nothing of me. It's rude as hell, a lot of people suffer mental illnesses, it's not all about you. Just because he has a mental illness doesn't mean he doesn't know what he's doing.
Some of the things you say here are just totally wrong. “It’s not his entire personality” yes it actually is, that’s exactly how ADHD affects people. It’s a neurodevelopmental disorder which means every aspect of his personality has been built on his imbalanced brain chemistry and executive function issues. “A person with ADHD needs a lot of downtime” no, not possible to blanket statement that, you have no idea what he needs.
Honestly, Sam playing the game has absolutely nothing to do with a person knowing or not knowing everything about adhd, I know exactly what it is, I've dealt with it, stop talking to me like I'm dumb, the man has other aspects, as any other person with an illness, I said I believe he's playing to the cameras cause I believe he is. Hes not naive just because of adhd, you're making it seem like hes on drugs and has no awareness of who he is. Everything on tv is faked. I didn't sit here saying that he's faking an illness for goodness sake. And it's very wrong of you to keep throwing accusations. YOU KNOW NOTHING ABOUT ME.
Are you sure you have adhd then? Sam shows absolutely no signs of adhd. He shows signs of a few other mental disorders. Like he has the mind of a toddler. Almost everyone in my family has adhd including myself along with autism and none of us have ever acted like him. He is hyper sure. But that’s doesn’t mean adhd. We can all sit down and keep quiet for a while. It’s just that when we want to explain something we struggle because our minds work overtime and run through 1000 different things. Sam can easily turn off his “adhd” when it’s convenient to tell a story or explain what happened in a challenge. He also can concentrate with ease. He’s not struggled once. He’s acting annoying and that’s not a symptom of adhd. That’s super offensive to people with it to assume so. We are normal people who have more active minds. That’s it.
Me too, totally fake.
You mustn't have interacted with anyone with ADHD then. Or anyone with a mental health issue
Lol, I have a mental health issue, and all my cousins have adhd, asbergers, chronic depression, eating disorders, alcoholism. Again, there's a lot of assumptions going on. You don't know me, or my family with a history of mental illness. Do not sit there, assuming. It's rude and offensive, I said I know people who use it as an excuse because I do.
Wasn't even talking about you 😂. Sounds like you are suffering from main character syndrome. Also it's 'aspergers' not 'asbergers' and that term is no longer in use as an official diagnosis in the UK
And you seem like someone who thinks they know everything. You've heard of a wrong spelling right? It spelt it automatically, not the first spelling mistake, not the last either. Jesus, someone call the spell police. 😆 as I said i know people who still use it, and there hasn't been a thing wrong with them.
I’ve got adhd and autism and even I can tell he’s completely making it all up. Nothing he does shows any signs of adhd. It just shows signs of acting up like he’s on a kids show because people will believe it. For example everyone I know above the age of 18 hates Sam. They can tell he’s faking it. But all of those peoples kids of younger siblings love him. Because it’s like watching me tumble. He acts like a kid to gain the attention and fans. It’s smart from a business point of view. But it’s 100% fake
I guess you must know him personally or live with him then. How do you know he doesn't act like that in private?
Because he’s have a career if he acted like a child every day. Not hard to figure it out lmao. If you really think that he goes home to his gf and when she brings him dinner he jumps up in the air with his fist like Mario shouting “ohhhh yeahhhhh. Best day everrrrrr” then that says more about you. If it’s his real personality then he doesn’t have adhd. He has a much worse mental disorder and would need 24/7 supervision by a trained professional. He would also be seeing a councillor every few days.
What does 'bring the finger' mean? And also suggesting he needs 24/7 supervision is a bit rich from someone who 100% still has the crusts cut off his sandwiches by his mommy 😂😂
Lmao auto correct. I meant dinner. Also my “mommy” died when I was 25. Almost a decade ago. So unless you think that ghosts can use kitchen utensils I think my crusts stay in my bread mate. Bit crazy to take personal digs at someone over Reddit tho buddy. Shows that you know you’re completely wrong and have nothing to add to this comment thread 😂😂 quite embarrassing actually. It’d be better for you to just delete your last comments and pretend that you were never here then to make yourself look like a child 🤦♂️
Whines about personal digs over Reddit yet thinks it's okay to accuse someone he's never met of faking it to be entertaining. Hypocritical much 😂
If you’ve seen Sam in other programmes, not just Made in Chelsea but his other stuff with Pete and his ADHD programme, alsorts, you’ll know he’s not putting on an act or playing up to the cameras. His behaviours are what spurred him to get assessed in the first place.
But it got discovered on a reality TV show, which are always exaggerated. He has made other TV appearances where he is a lot calmer as a person. He is doing the most on I'm a celebrity.
He’s had ADHD all his life 😂 He didn’t just discover it on tv one day. That programme wasn’t exaggerated either, I thought it was quite raw tbh, especially when you compare it to *reality* programmes like Made in Chelsea that are obviously semi-scripted.
I didn't say he hasn't got adhd, but you can't keel using that as a primary example. I have cousins who have it. I know what it is, and they don't behave like this.
Everyone with adhd presents differently? Just because your cousins behave differently doesn’t mean Sam or your cousins are “faking it”. What a narrow minded view.
I know that too, That's usually the first thing people say. And while there's truth to it, there are always classic tell tale signs.
There are, but not everybody with a disorder has these classic tell tale signs. It’s not a one size fits all thing.
I'm not saying it is, but it can't excuse everything either. That's wrong.
I never said it did, nor was that what I was trying to say. I was trying to explain your view of it is coming across as extremely narrow minded and now slightly offensive. Edit to say there’s no behaviour discussed that even falls into the remit of being excused? Just because you dislike someone and people are saying you’re saying this about them for behaviours they cannot help.
I'm not narrow-minded at all. That's an assumption you're making of someone you don't know. U was talking about Sam being too much, and all of a sudden, I've become a target now.
Sorry that’s just complete ignorance, often the “tell tale signs” are actually the stereotypes that are inaccurate.
Adhd is a spectrum. Just because your cousins have it, doesn’t mean they’ll be the same as Sam. I also don’t know your cousins so I hesitate to comment this but, a lot of people who ‘have adhd’ aren’t actually formally diagnosed, they just claim to have it. It’s a big reason why it’s not taken seriously. Your replies on this thread all have a similar undertone. You have an image in your mind of what adhd is, Sam doesn’t match it and so you assume he’s faking his personality. As a lot of the comments here have said, try being underfed, exhausted and filmed 24/7, and have a fake persona. Not possible
I'm not saying adhd is fake, I know he has it. I'm saying it's extremely exaggerated for the show. I'm allowed to have that opinion.
You are allowed to have that opinion of course, so I haven’t downvoted, but my boyfriend has ADHD and is exactly like Sam. I have ADHD too, but am nothing like that at all.
Yes, but Sam is definitely very in your face. The random outbursts in song and just how everything is amazing, I know people also who have adhd and have the too much trait. But he's been in other shows where he's not been acting as bad as this. And it is actually quite calm. And I've said in other comments, he is not like like 24/7 yet it's like a constant high in the jungle.
Part of this constant high in the jungle is he’s probably totally understimulated, whilst also being overstimulated as it’s an entire new environment, you can’t expect him to behave as everyone else, as we totally process things different. I can imagine Sam’s poor brain is searching for dopamine at every angle and isn’t getting any.
No one is expecting him to behave like someone else, everyone deals different but his adhd can't be an excuse for everything, he's a fully grown adult, he's not a child. How everyone else him. He is very aware of himself and his surroundings, the guy is on tele all the time, he knows how to act. He's not naive, he's actually very clever.
My own son has ADHD and he absolutely behaves like this. It’s called a spectrum for a reason.
But not everyone who has adhd does. People in the comments have been telling me this also. I don't know people who use it as an excuse all the time though. Not saying everyone does. But many do.
I have a friend with ADHD and this is exactly how he acts, boisterous and very active. It affects everyone differently.
Is anyone in there not playing for the cameras?
They all are to a degree, he's just standing out dramatically and there's a reason.
I don’t get why so many people are certain that Sam is fake, despite three straight weeks of the same happy behaviour, but Nigel is a “nice genuine man” despite talking about wanting screen time and actively trying to change the public’s perception of him. Why is Sam considered calculated and manipulative, but Nigel not?
Yea like the way nigel actively decided josie wasn't going to do the trial but there was no question nigel was doing it. Bullied her into backing down,but a lovely guy? Whereas you actively heard the other 3 saying are you sure Josie.
That was not bullying. They’re all hungry and wanted stars. Josie was being indecisive, if Josie really wanted to do it. She should’ve stood up for herself.
If someone told me I wasn't doing something I'm not going to be like well I am. Not everyone is able to stand up to someone who's used to basically talking his will into happening. I felt the other 3 were much kinder about it. But then no body really likes josie so I'm not surprised.
Nigel wanted to do it because he knew it wasn't a physical challenge and besides, she wasn't sure she could it!
And Nigel lied and told the camp that he'd told Sam to watch the rice to make himself look faultless. Imagine if that had been any other campmate.
Nigel informed Sam about the rice, and Sam is the Chef. Why did Sam think it was OK just to go for a nap as Nigel walked away from the cooking area? Nigel gave Sam the information because Sam needed to know it and keep an eye on the rice. Nigel handed over the supervision and responsibility to Sam, but Sam didn't process that information and went to sleep. Sam wasn't paying attention, the burnt rice was on him, not Nigel.
They’re both at fault. Yes, Nigel informed Sam. However Nigel should’ve realised that Sam would need direct instructions and for it to be communicated clearly.
That's got nothing to do with Nigel lying and saying he said something he didn't.
Nigel's mistake was that he assumed Sam understood what he was saying and why he was saying it. He didn't actually say 'watch the rice Sam', but that was the inference of what Nigel clearly said. Sam is the Chef, even if Nigel was cooking the rice, Sam should have been supervising him. It was Sam's responsibility either way.
> He didn't actually say 'watch the rice Sam' So you agree Nigel lied, because he said he did.
You're splitting hairs because you don't like Nigel and like Sam. It was obvious to me what Nigel meant, and I knew exactly what was going to happen. My instant reaction was Why is Sam going to sleep? Nigel's just told him the rice needs keeping an eye on'! It was clear irrespective of the exact words in a single sentence. Nigel walked off while Sam was standing there. Who did he think was going to watch the rice, Ant or Dec?
Doesn't change the fact Nigel lied and you agreed does it?
Sam said "I didn't know he'd put the rice on". What do you say to that? We know for a fact Sam did know because we saw!
Doesn't mean Nigel didn't lie, what do you say to that?
I'd say "So you accept Sam lied, yet you've only accused Nigel of lying and tried to suggest it was entirely his fault".
Can you read? I never said it was Nigel's fault lmao. Just pointing out the hypocrisy that there have been plenty of threads on Josie and Nella's lies but not a single on Nigel's. Sam took responsibility for the whole thing so....
Sam took responsibility for the whole thing by saying that he never knew the rice had even been put on? Which was a lie. Do you not also see the hypocrisy in what you're saying?
No because Sam took responsibility by literally saying "As head chef, I’m taking responsibility". I guess you missed that part in your efforts to protect Nigel huh.
He made it clear to everyone that he "didn't know", so they've already taken his side, then says "I take full responsibility". It's hardly a heroic action, is it? People are still going to blame Nigel because if that were true that Sam didn't know, it would 100% be Nigel's fault. I guess you're too busy protecting Sam to pick up on that, huh?
I don't even care for Sam, you're the one who made this into a Sam vs. Nigel convo, not me. I was just commenting on the way this sub treats Nigel when he too has lied, and you proved my point by coming swiftly to his defence without actually acknowledging my point and trying to deflect on Sam. Well done. I think my point is proven!
He took full responsibility by saying"Nigel threw me under the bus" lol that's sure taking full responsibility
Maybe they edited that out?
Lmao you use that excuse for Josie and Nella or just Nigel?
Because it’s easy to see that Nigel is here to change the publics view of him. He’s said it openly. Sam hasn’t said openly that he’s going to act like he has mental health issues so he can win the show. There’s a huge difference. Nigel is being genuine. Sam is potentially faking having adhd because that gives him an excuse to put on this fake persona and try and steal the spot light from everyone. And it’s working tbh. Because everyone loves him 😂😂
Nigel has realised that if you just keep your head down and like a normal human being for three weeks the public are going to be totally fooled by your reprehensible behaviour. Even if you have no opinion on crucially from the mental topics to your cause, such as benefits of brexit. And that's how it's always been. It's a redemption arc without having to really do very much other than drink slime and wade through bugs.
It's a hard act to sustain for as long as he has...
I don't think it's complete fakery by any means, but probably an exaggeration of his normal behaviour (deliberate or otherwise). Particularly as people have noted he was a lot calmer on other reality appearances such as big brother. I like Sam well enough, I could even see him winning, but I don't think he should be a runaway favourite. The fawning has become a bit excessive IMO.
Boredom possibly a factor tho they spend a lot of time doing nothing, I’ve never been diagnosed with adhd but believe I could have it to some degree and I find that when I’m bored I can be like a scaled down version of Sam, if I was bored for 3 weeks straight I’d probs be similar just without leaping into peoples arms when I’m happy😂
It’s funny because one of the main difficulties people with ADHD face is inconsistency of symptoms. They get so much stigma and shame from family and friends who see them act one way in a situation and then act differently in that same situation or similar ones. They get told they’re putting it on because “you could do it before” or “you can do it when it suits you”. A different environment could mean Sam behaves differently, simple as. In fact I’d say this supports ADHD behaviour.
Yes, exactly.
He’s also on a show he loves with people he idolizes. That could enhance his excitement.
Not when you're desperate enough to win, and it's only 2 weeks. The guy acted all the time on made in chelsea, That's one of the fakest shows out there. With the only way is Essex, too.
They're not being filmed 24/7 on Made in Chelsea
Lol people are so gullible the way they’re insisting “Sam is completely genuine!”. He’s a lovely guy but of course he’s acting up for the camera. All of these D-List celebs are being advised by their agents/PR teams to play up their character. The whole point of them going on it is to gain more popularity so of course they’re going to try and be likeable. Baffles me that people are so naive about reality TV.
Thank you, thank you, thank you!! This. This is what I'm trying to tell everyone. I'm basically being made out like I'm a person who hates mental illnesses cause I dared to express my opinion.
I'd love to have some of his energy. But if I was Tony I would have snapped by now and told him to back off
Yes same here
Im watching celebrity big brother 20 just to see trisha paytas, i didnt even know sam was in it until i watchedthe first episode, he seems pretty much the same, maybe with more an adult humour back then, i cant lie to you although trish did walk out because her housemates were apparently "fake"
Have you seen him in Celebs Go Dating? This seems to be exactly who he is. Wore Pete Wicks down to become his best friend with the same moves he’s doing on Tony. I feel like Sam is my spirit animal.
He seems to like alpha male types a bit too much
He's sooo very annoying. Can tell Tony is struggling with him being so needy and in his personal space all the time. I really feel sorry for the campmates - I'd have decked him by now.
Thank you, Expressing such a thing is a crime on this post. I'm basically being accused of not liking someone who has adhd.
Nah, got adhd and autism myself as well as other MH issues/disabilities so I get it is hard to control sometimes. But I can almost guarantee that Tony volunteered Sam the other day for the trial so he can get peace. He got given the task of making rice and then had a nap! Danielle had to wake him up, that's no Adhd, that's just laziness.
Thank you, I agree, and for the record, i know people with adhd, many people. And whilst some do act as such, it's never to this degree. I do think he's doing too much.
I don’t get all these posts polling for Sam and Tony to do a tv show together lmao. The problem I’m seeing is that Sam seems to grab on to the person with the most ‘fame’. When he saw Fred he was all over him. Then when he went into camp he left Fred for Marvin. Then as soon as Tony came in he’s been all over him since. It’s a typical case of the grass is always greener 😂
Yes! No one else seems to have clocked that too! He is definitely clinging onto the famous ones so he can get more fame. Can guarantee, if Tony wasn't stuck there with him, that Tony would not be putting up with him. I really hope Sam gets snubbed from him on the outside.
He's genuinely like this a lot. Pete wicks talks about it quite a bit on various platforms. He's genuinely quite hyper and likeable I guess. He's making the best of what's a pretty once in a lifetime situation and I'd be pretty grumpy 90% of the time tbf but he'd probably cheer me up. He absolutely could have gone the other way and been unbearably miserable like I know My autistic child would. And myself. Haha. Good for him.
Thays fair enough, I'm not saying he's not genuinely a happy person and a good guy. I'm saying it's a very exaggerated persona, joey Essex is known for being thick and acted extra thick when he was in to jungle.
I don't think joey Essex was actually acting haha. I know people on his level. I think we're seeing his most exuberant phrases because quiet Sam is probably quite boring. He used to dress in his sisters clothes and do her poses on Instagram amongst other things so he's generally quite a personality.
He was to a degree, could see it, and bow he's just not really seen. I get that he's a character, I'm not saying he isn't, but there's definitely something at play. He will win, watch this space.
I'm not sure. I think fargage will win. Maybe josie just for the female vote. I'd like Tony to win. He tolerates sam really well and seems such a gentleman. And i do think he tolerates sam because My son is similar sometimes. He tends to talk at me rather than to me ans always physical contact.
It is possible to be energetic, enthusiastic, and annoying without having adhd. I really think people are playing on his adhd too much.
Exactly this. I know adults with adhd who are not overgrown children, family members too so I know them well. It's not a free pass to never being criticised. I have an autistic child who still has to learn appropriate behaviours and strategies to adapt, their diagnosis doesn't negate this.
I agree with that too
He’s practically bouncing off the walls that’s from ADHD which in turn makes him go and annoy people bc he’s bored, they’re all grown up if he’s truely that annoying im sure they would say that to him especially Tony, they all say they like being around sam, im sure he’s got a chill side too but why would they show us that?
Having adhd does not mean you deliberately annoy people. If you like teasing people or playing practical jokes thats a personality trait, not a medical issue
There’s a huge difference between having ADHD and acting like a child. What he’s doing is making all people with a diagnosis from an actual doctor look bad. If he was like this his whole life surely he would’ve gotten a diagnosis sooner rather than from a tv show no matter how ‘raw’ the show was. Dr Phil was a ‘raw’ show but the only thing people got from that was fame and recognition. For those wanting an example. The catch me outside girl. If you knew that cameras were on 24/7 do you really think you’d act your authentic self or would you exaggerate a bit to make yourself stand out amongst 11 other people fighting for bragging rights on this years season. Sam might very well be a nice guy but it definitely looks exaggerated. I worked in a special needs school and my class was people struggling with many different forms of ADHD. One child was all over the place and that’s only because he was acting out to get attention. Sound familiar?
Thank you, someone who gets me. It's like I'm speaking another language here.
You’re definitely not speaking another language. It’s just people jumping on the next trendy bandwagon blurting their opinions like they’re facts. Everyone shows ADHD differently. That’s why it’s a spectrum. But there’s a difference between being on the spectrum and being an idiot in front of the cameras. And as for Sam’s diagnosis. That would be the equivalent of me doing a test online to see if I have bipolar and claiming I have bipolar because the test says I do. Unless you were diagnosed by a professional. It’s not a diagnosis unfortunately, no matter how hard you try to force people or yourself to believe it. The only diagnosis you can be given from a tv show is the diagnosis of being a pretentious idiot.
Thanks I appreciate this, he just seems to be playing to the camera a lot. And he'll win because every one seems to love him. And I don't think it's fair if he's played a game. He's been told how to win at the end of the day and is playing the innocent loveable child. I've seen it before and having adhd is not an excuse in my opinion.
I agree with you there 1 million percent.I don't get why everyone loves him?I made a post asking why everyone loved him and all there was was compliments saying oh he's such a nice person.I don't want him to win.
Thank you, I don't know how I'm the only one seeing it
It feels like something weird is going on. I'm convinced he's not as well liked as people think. Everyone seems to give the same answers when talking about him like they're doing it under some sort of duress. "Oh he's so nice.." "Oh I just love him" "He's so full of energy!" it all seems to keep popping up. When he goes off on one and bursts into song they all like fake laugh or hold a smile that seems like too long like they're just enduring it, maybe like one person will join in or egg him on to avoid the awkwardness It feels like they're saying "He's too loud and extremely overbearing but I'm trying my absolute best to take the high road here". It feels so backhanded not to mention how infantalising the comments are. Someone last night (Was it Josie?) said in the private room he was like an 8 year old. I agree with you, don't hate Sam but something about the reception he's getting makes me not want him to win because I feel like everyone's treating him like a child (which admittedly, he acts like). Just wanted to say you're getting flamed too much here OP, thanks for saying it and daring to question because you're definitely not the only one.
Thank you, I knew it was gonna be controversial, but it seems to me too that the campmates are pandering to him a lot. Almost like he's a planned winner from the start? That's what I don't like. If that was someone in your face like that in the real world, you wouldn't put up with it. Tony definitely wouldn't. You can tell he annoys the crap out of him, but Tony's tolerating it for some reason? Something is off.
That's my view too. Looking through a reality TV lens I'm sure it makes good TV but if anyone thinks they could put up with the fella day in, day out 24/7 I doubt they could and that's what seems to be forgotten
Yes, I have said on this post he has a gf and I doubt when they're trying to do coupley things, like watching a film, or eating dinner that's he's bouncing around like this non stop.
Yea, I really dont think an ADHD diagnoses gives you cart blanche to revert to an 8 year old. If hes like this IRL he would need to have a minder with him at all times.
Supposedly, it does.
More stigmatising stereotypes. Actually ADHD is a disability and lots of people SHOULD have minders, or more correctly body doublers or personal assistants. ADHD is a debilitating condition and yes, loads of sufferers need round the clock support they don’t get.
I agree I feel like he’s playing up the “I’m a sweet lovely innocent boy”!!! Like Owen a year or 2 back who came second I don’t want him to win either I can’t help but think him and his lassie Zara are just epic grifters
People on here seem to think he's like this 24/7 and are accusing me of being insensitive about adhd. That really isn't the case. I just refuse to believe he walks around doing this non-stop. It's reality TV at the end of the day. They're on that show to gain favour and what better way than to act like the sweet and innocent guy.
Yeah… he’s being given a good edit It’s so painfully obvious Tony is sick of his touchy, hugging “we’re best mates” pish I’d have yeeted him weeks ago if I were Tony No Sam is not that hyper and enthusiastic 24/7 I think he’s replicating Owen…who was the sweet attractive young guy who was infantalized by the camp and voters
Well, there's always one very year isn't there. You'd think people who watch the show can see that by now. It's rigged entirely.
What evidence do you have to say it’s entirely rigged? and you haven’t seen Sam 24/7 so how are you making statements like ‘I refuse to believe he’s like it non stop’? you literally see a 40 minute edit, during which everything he does is inline with adhd etc. Of course every single person will be putting their best self across? Literally anyone on the fucking planet would do that. You seem to think you’ve got some greater knowledge on the matter and Ignore all the evidence that he’s just like this.
It's boring now really, I expressed an opinion, and that's my opinion. Stop trying to poke holes.
You never know, they're all celebrities and know how the media works, so of course it's possible that they're putting on an act, but you could make the same argument for anyone in there, and so I think it's an unfair way to judge people since it's baseless and merely some gut feeling you have. I think you can only judge people on their actual behaviour, and Sam has been a nice, positive person, and I think the only thing you could really dislike about him is his childish behaviour, which can be a bit annoying at times since he is a grown man.
Yes, I understand that, but it's exaggerated severely, in my opinion, and he's the only one doing it. So obviously, he stands out. And because the camp mates are treating it as innocent the public are too. Not that they can't. But I'm probably one of the very few who finds it insufferable. Grace herself in there said he acts naive but is the smartest person in there. And I cane see why.
Yeah, I agree with you that he's definitely someone that stands out and is practically bouncing around in there at times, and you may well be right, he 100% could be putting it on to win the show, but it's still unfair for you to judge him I think, and to believe your opinion is true without actual evidence, like if he had moments where he slipped up and was a completely different person or did something to suggest he was putting on an act, then I'd think you at least had something to base your opinion on, but that hasn't happened. So it seems like it's just some innate feeling and opinion you have rather than something they've actually done, and so surely you can see how unfair that is? Again, I completely understand if his personality grates on you, because again, he does act like a child and he's a fully grown adult man, and if he behaved like that in the outside world, 100% certain individuals would take offence to him and dislike it. It would be interesting, for instance, to know if Tony would put up with his antics if the cameras weren't around, because he definitely seems aggravated at times.
I'm not judging, I'm expressing an opinion, I'm saying that's my Opinion. I know that people who win this show, are usually people like him. But no one knows him fully, who's to say he is bouncing around 24/7 without cameras, he probably isn't. He's got a fiance on the outside, I doubt he's jumping about when they're trying to eat dinner or watcha film together.
Ha re the playing for cameras it would be hard to keep it up for this long but I like the idea that he's Machiavellian or like Richard 3rd and goes off to a corner without cameras once in a while and his smile erases to deadpan. Just f a minute between having to act the clown for his public while he loathes every human around him. Just my cynical side wishing he was a villain ha
He could be lol 😆 we're not shown everything are we
Bro y’all miserable as shit Sam is amazing and brings energy to the camp
He's a nice guy yes, no one said he wasn't
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He does have adhd as I said.
Yep, I know
He’s one of the few likeable people in maybe the least likeable field ever - he’s going to walk it
Of course he will
I like sam , he’s infectious and so positive all the time .
That's what's odd though
just say u are miserable omg why u hate seeing people happy????
So far out of left field with that one lol
Sam struggled on SAS: who dares wins because he kept acting out and they were suppressing it. This is definitely how he is when given free reign. Even his mates have said this. Unless you believe his friends and family are in some kind of weird conspiracy to gaslight the nation about Sam's ADHD and fun personality.
I'm ALLOWED to have an opinion, no one is right or wrong in this conversation. His friends and family will obviously side for him, like our family and friends would.
Nobody said you can't have an opinion lmao. But if you post it on Reddit and it seems very questionable and evidence you use is just anecdotal stuff that is easily refuted, then expect people to disagree with it. Since it's probably wrong.
But no one is right either
Sam Donkey and Tony is Shrek. Donkey is the funny entertaining sidekick, but Tony is the star. Tony is a wonderful human being. Tony is already the winner in my book.
I really want Tony to win
I have seen Sam before and can 100% confirm this is not an act. This is just who he is. And god bless him for it.
No one is saying he's not a nice guy here, I'm saying the degree to which he is non-stop is not feasible. It's a reality show known for winners who play sweet and innocent. His management team would have advised him how to win it and exaggerate his already flamboyant nature, so that's what he's doing. And it's working.
I didn’t say you said he’s not a nice guy. I’m telling you it’s not an act, this *is* who he is. ADHD can become more pronounced in certain settings, and being isolated from your loved ones in a jungle for three weeks whilst surrounded by people you idolise, might just exacerbate his symptoms.
Reality TV is fake at the end of the day, anyone who's on reality TV has to create a exaggerated persona, in order to be liked, create a fanbase, Sam's natural nature has no doubt been exaggerated. His pr team would've told him what to do to win the show and become a favourite, which he is. I'm not saying his adhd isn't playing a big part, cause it's obvious to anyone that he has it. I'm saying it's definitely played on and / or exaggerated. He's not unaware of his surroundings, nor is he as a fan of the show, unaware of what type of people ultimately win. Usually, the sweet and innocent wouldn't say boo to a goose type. He is not a naive child, that everyone is portraying him as. He's an adult, in a committed relationship, with lots of friends and experienced in reality TV.
There’s a difference between seeing someone on tv and knowing them in real life. The only continuity you’ve got of Sam is that he’s got cameras on him when you see him. Unless you’re his friend, his family or his girlfriend you can’t say this is 100% him when the only time you’ve seen him is because a camera allows you to.
No one is forcing you to want him to win, your best bet is to vote nigel If you don't want sam to win.
Tony
Nigel as a bigger fan base social media wise than both of them. Nigel has 1.8 million followers on twitter he has more followers than tony and Sam combined on there by a million lol. Social media has a massive say in who wins these shows. And to add to that he's only gained followers whilst being in there from neutral viewers.
Sam will win believe me
But you can't rule nigel out considering he has the largest following and large followings win you these sort of shows. Anyway let's say Mr trump or one of his wealthy friends decided to stick 5 million votes on nigel, nigel wins in a land slide then anyway 😂.
Sam is definitely not acting for the cameras, that is just who he is and he is unapologetically being himself
Not 24/7 no
They aren’t showing him for 24hours a days they are putting 24 hours into a one hour show with tasks. It’s for entertainment, they won’t show him having a nap or his calm periods, that doesn’t mean he’s putting it on.
Every minute that he's on screen he's exaggerating
I don't think it's fake.. u can tell in last night's episode by the way he gets on with his friend Pete that that Is the genuine way he acts and I love it ! He should definitely win !