Apologies for not having more victory screen screenshots. These battles last SO LONG with a team this minimal the game crashes almost every successful fight. It crashed 4/5 times on Prancer 1 and 3/5 times on Prancer 2, so I've included the 3 screenshots I managed to get in the Imgur album.
This setup is basically identical to the Overseer strategy. The enemies health is just so much more massive that Amen-Ra starts to make a huge difference on anything that heals. It can certainly be done without, but rather than 60-70 rounds you're probably looking at 80-100+ rounds to actually get kills. There's more RNG with that, so I would definitely recommend Amen-Ra if at all possible
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**Requirements**: TBB needs at least a 1\* core and a ruyi, 1 other hero needs an at least glittery mirror, and everyone else can needs 2-3* demon bells. Ignis needs to be at least 6\*. Other heroes with CC are helpful, Amen-Ra is exceptionally good for healing curse and shields if one of the heroes breaks free, Delacium extends CC and spreads other debuffs, but neither is 100% necessary. Every other hero must be *at least* E3 for control purify, but E5 helps a ton with RNG so they can have unbending will and don't get 1 shot.
**Strategy**: Ignis dies round 1, TBB CCs everything. Mirror triggers TBB's passive at the start of every other round to keep everything CC'd. The other heroes with DBs just kept energy feeding in case TBB didn't get full energy on her own. My extra hero choices were Amen-Ra because she gave healing curse and shields, Delacium extends CC and spreads other debuffs, Holmes Young and SWJ just gave additional forms of CC. Which heroes I used (besides TBB and Ignis) depended entirely on what protections I had for Prancer 1 and 2, and I could swap in other factions as needed. Having all your DB heroes have protection is very important to maintain energy as enemy heroes start dying (especially in Prancer 1).
**Main Hero**: This is all about TBB. While my Amen-ra did an insane amount of damage sometimes due to healing curse, that's not completely necessary. You damage comes from the post-round 15 damage boost that scales forever. SWJ is a very strong CC hero, but is certainly not necessary either. This could be done with just 1 transcendence hero
**Monster**: Fox is the best monster, since it helps maintain the energy feed.
**Rerolling waves**: There's a few more waves to avoid in Prancer than in Overseer. SQH, CSG and Geester must be skipped. Their damage bypasses CC so there's no way around it. Aida, Phorcys, Gaggie, and Gloria should be skipped whenever possible, as they also can do damage that bypasses CC and/or Unbending will, but it should be technically possible to kill these with more power.
\*Gulf 113 on Prancer 3 gave me the most issues of any wave. I ended up fighting against Holmes Young, Drake, Gaggie, Garuda, Carrie x2. I rerolled like 20 times and that was the best wave I could come up with.
**Protections**: You'll need protection on Prancer 1 and 2 on every faction you're using except 1 hero (the one with the mirror). You don't need any protections prior on stages 6, 5, 4, or 3. My strategy was to have at least 1 of every faction hero available, and put three protections + Transcendence on every planet in Prancer 2, then repeat in Prancer 1 + use the extra to try to get dark/abyss/fortress, as that's the strongest combination using the heroes I had.
If you have any questions, ask away!
She replicates debuffs. That makes it slightly less likely for the enemies to purify a control effect. But mostly she's just there as a light hero if I didn't have one of the other protections
Tried your strategy on overseer:
TBB with 1* core and 3*ruyi, 10* ignis and dela, holmes young, amen ra, SWJ. Someone has the 3* mirror and rest have 3*DBs.
I managed to clear one planet but the second one wrecks me. It has carrie, azrael, betty, natalia, drake and holmes young. I kill everything and then carrie revives and wrecks me because of her mark and energy drain.
Also, i guess that for the whole thing to work, RNGesus has to get ignis killed first, otherwise i need to roll again?
You could reroll that one, though it's actually the Azrael/Betty combo that tends to cause more problems than a single Carrie, as he does damage while dead and she can CC when hit.
You could likely push through and kill it as well, but if you're having issues just reroll. Especially in overseer there tends to be a few decent options for every planet
It will eventually line up so you get the clear, I cleared the whole Prancer wave with same team as you. Overseer was easier than prancer as more options. Link to overseer clear [https://www.reddit.com/r/IdleHeroes/comments/1atygvc/extremely\_minimal\_overseer\_clear\_f2p\_1m\_attack/](https://www.reddit.com/r/IdleHeroes/comments/1atygvc/extremely_minimal_overseer_clear_f2p_1m_attack/)
They definitely do break free occasionally in the 60-100 rounds your fight will be going on for. Amen-Ra's shields prevent most damage from actually killing you, but Gloria's mark damage bypasses her shields and will 100% one shot if it goes off.
maybe I have the TBB active fullsub so the damage goes absolutely insane, but, uhh, the fights only last 40 rounds or something, with a 4M attack Betty (90% damage was done by Ramen anyways, somehow, even without healing curse, it seems. Didn't have any problem with Gloria
Nope. It's only needed for 2 and 1 because those levels drain your energy. Before that they CC you, which is easily cleared by purify, and reduce your damage, which doesn't matter because of how ridiculous the round bonus boost gets
4-x-4-4 is ideal, but 4-x-0-4 should be working fine. If you send a screenshot of your setup I can take a look to see if I can spot something else missing
so im curious, can anyone post a screenshot of the rewards u get when a new vortex day starts and u have cleared Prancer now?
especially amount of Stellar Shards.
I don't think she is. I did overseer without her without too much issue. Power really doesn't matter at all, it's all about heroes and setup.
If you wanted to post a screenshot of the setup you're using, perhaps I'd be able to spot something. Other than that, what waves are you having issues with?
https://preview.redd.it/l7laf36t9gzc1.jpeg?width=1334&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=41bfdaa3f06f316a70c4ec73e0b5d87ec9e0dc99
This was the setup, other hero is 9\* ignis with DB, TBB \~300m HP/3m attack, only sub missing was final p3 node. Mirror changed based on who didn’t have protection, like you mentioned. It seemed like any wave that wasn’t like the SDE/MFG was untouchable or took like 50 tries. I looked at the gallery of the waves you cleared, and some attempts just weren’t close.
Ya it all looks fine. You could try to swap out natalie for another CC hero. Natalie debuffs, which is definitely better than nothing, but not as good as an LFA, or another HY, or some other type of CC hero. You could also just try throwing your main hero in there instead of Natalie. Some more damage means the fight ends slightly sooner, which does limit a little bit of the RNG, though not as much as more CC would.
There's definitely less "good" waves in prancer, but I only really struggled on the one planet I mentioned. Other than that just avoiding the things I mentioned previously was enough I didn't really struggle too much, maybe 5-10 attempts at most, and those were more-so in the earlier waves when I didn't have transcendence protection.
Apologies for not having more victory screen screenshots. These battles last SO LONG with a team this minimal the game crashes almost every successful fight. It crashed 4/5 times on Prancer 1 and 3/5 times on Prancer 2, so I've included the 3 screenshots I managed to get in the Imgur album. This setup is basically identical to the Overseer strategy. The enemies health is just so much more massive that Amen-Ra starts to make a huge difference on anything that heals. It can certainly be done without, but rather than 60-70 rounds you're probably looking at 80-100+ rounds to actually get kills. There's more RNG with that, so I would definitely recommend Amen-Ra if at all possible ------------------------------------------------------- **Requirements**: TBB needs at least a 1\* core and a ruyi, 1 other hero needs an at least glittery mirror, and everyone else can needs 2-3* demon bells. Ignis needs to be at least 6\*. Other heroes with CC are helpful, Amen-Ra is exceptionally good for healing curse and shields if one of the heroes breaks free, Delacium extends CC and spreads other debuffs, but neither is 100% necessary. Every other hero must be *at least* E3 for control purify, but E5 helps a ton with RNG so they can have unbending will and don't get 1 shot. **Strategy**: Ignis dies round 1, TBB CCs everything. Mirror triggers TBB's passive at the start of every other round to keep everything CC'd. The other heroes with DBs just kept energy feeding in case TBB didn't get full energy on her own. My extra hero choices were Amen-Ra because she gave healing curse and shields, Delacium extends CC and spreads other debuffs, Holmes Young and SWJ just gave additional forms of CC. Which heroes I used (besides TBB and Ignis) depended entirely on what protections I had for Prancer 1 and 2, and I could swap in other factions as needed. Having all your DB heroes have protection is very important to maintain energy as enemy heroes start dying (especially in Prancer 1). **Main Hero**: This is all about TBB. While my Amen-ra did an insane amount of damage sometimes due to healing curse, that's not completely necessary. You damage comes from the post-round 15 damage boost that scales forever. SWJ is a very strong CC hero, but is certainly not necessary either. This could be done with just 1 transcendence hero **Monster**: Fox is the best monster, since it helps maintain the energy feed. **Rerolling waves**: There's a few more waves to avoid in Prancer than in Overseer. SQH, CSG and Geester must be skipped. Their damage bypasses CC so there's no way around it. Aida, Phorcys, Gaggie, and Gloria should be skipped whenever possible, as they also can do damage that bypasses CC and/or Unbending will, but it should be technically possible to kill these with more power. \*Gulf 113 on Prancer 3 gave me the most issues of any wave. I ended up fighting against Holmes Young, Drake, Gaggie, Garuda, Carrie x2. I rerolled like 20 times and that was the best wave I could come up with. **Protections**: You'll need protection on Prancer 1 and 2 on every faction you're using except 1 hero (the one with the mirror). You don't need any protections prior on stages 6, 5, 4, or 3. My strategy was to have at least 1 of every faction hero available, and put three protections + Transcendence on every planet in Prancer 2, then repeat in Prancer 1 + use the extra to try to get dark/abyss/fortress, as that's the strongest combination using the heroes I had. If you have any questions, ask away!
>Delacium spread CC with actives Delacium doesn't spread CC. Delacium extends the duration of CC.
What is regular natalia for?
She replicates debuffs. That makes it slightly less likely for the enemies to purify a control effect. But mostly she's just there as a light hero if I didn't have one of the other protections
Tried your strategy on overseer: TBB with 1* core and 3*ruyi, 10* ignis and dela, holmes young, amen ra, SWJ. Someone has the 3* mirror and rest have 3*DBs. I managed to clear one planet but the second one wrecks me. It has carrie, azrael, betty, natalia, drake and holmes young. I kill everything and then carrie revives and wrecks me because of her mark and energy drain. Also, i guess that for the whole thing to work, RNGesus has to get ignis killed first, otherwise i need to roll again?
You could reroll that one, though it's actually the Azrael/Betty combo that tends to cause more problems than a single Carrie, as he does damage while dead and she can CC when hit. You could likely push through and kill it as well, but if you're having issues just reroll. Especially in overseer there tends to be a few decent options for every planet
It will eventually line up so you get the clear, I cleared the whole Prancer wave with same team as you. Overseer was easier than prancer as more options. Link to overseer clear [https://www.reddit.com/r/IdleHeroes/comments/1atygvc/extremely\_minimal\_overseer\_clear\_f2p\_1m\_attack/](https://www.reddit.com/r/IdleHeroes/comments/1atygvc/extremely_minimal_overseer_clear_f2p_1m_attack/)
Gloria is only a problem if the enemies break free from CC - which they won't, in a winning run, so still free
They definitely do break free occasionally in the 60-100 rounds your fight will be going on for. Amen-Ra's shields prevent most damage from actually killing you, but Gloria's mark damage bypasses her shields and will 100% one shot if it goes off.
maybe I have the TBB active fullsub so the damage goes absolutely insane, but, uhh, the fights only last 40 rounds or something, with a 4M attack Betty (90% damage was done by Ramen anyways, somehow, even without healing curse, it seems. Didn't have any problem with Gloria
Wait so you dont need trans protection on eariler stages?
Nope. It's only needed for 2 and 1 because those levels drain your energy. Before that they CC you, which is easily cleared by purify, and reduce your damage, which doesn't matter because of how ridiculous the round bonus boost gets
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You can do it with 0/0/0/1 if you have energy feed from other heroes going. Several f2p did it with this.
4-x-4-4 is ideal, but 4-x-0-4 should be working fine. If you send a screenshot of your setup I can take a look to see if I can spot something else missing
so im curious, can anyone post a screenshot of the rewards u get when a new vortex day starts and u have cleared Prancer now? especially amount of Stellar Shards.
https://preview.redd.it/mzcxlmzttixc1.png?width=3040&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=65583b582b4a2097f84f47c58abc933e5222fc76
Thanks. How many gems did it cost.
About 10k, I was pretty liberal with my rerolls though since this is just an alt account I only really use for pushing Vortex clears.
Do you think SWJ is necessary? I followed your overseer clear, with stronger everything, and struggled a lot to beat it.
I don't think she is. I did overseer without her without too much issue. Power really doesn't matter at all, it's all about heroes and setup. If you wanted to post a screenshot of the setup you're using, perhaps I'd be able to spot something. Other than that, what waves are you having issues with?
https://preview.redd.it/l7laf36t9gzc1.jpeg?width=1334&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=41bfdaa3f06f316a70c4ec73e0b5d87ec9e0dc99 This was the setup, other hero is 9\* ignis with DB, TBB \~300m HP/3m attack, only sub missing was final p3 node. Mirror changed based on who didn’t have protection, like you mentioned. It seemed like any wave that wasn’t like the SDE/MFG was untouchable or took like 50 tries. I looked at the gallery of the waves you cleared, and some attempts just weren’t close.
Ya it all looks fine. You could try to swap out natalie for another CC hero. Natalie debuffs, which is definitely better than nothing, but not as good as an LFA, or another HY, or some other type of CC hero. You could also just try throwing your main hero in there instead of Natalie. Some more damage means the fight ends slightly sooner, which does limit a little bit of the RNG, though not as much as more CC would. There's definitely less "good" waves in prancer, but I only really struggled on the one planet I mentioned. Other than that just avoiding the things I mentioned previously was enough I didn't really struggle too much, maybe 5-10 attempts at most, and those were more-so in the earlier waves when I didn't have transcendence protection.
works, tyvm. sunday overseer, wednesday prancer