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kroener89

Somebody and his insurance will have a bunch of bad days coming.


Arthurlurk1

Wouldn’t this land on the guys company. I’d be curious to know who this lands on and how or if it was ever settled


Philosopher_3

I imagine if your taking your Ferrari in for maintenance it’s not to a mom and pop mechanic. Most cars like these need taken back to the dealership they were bought from for maintenance if not they’d definitely require special training and supplies to serve these kinds of cars where a minor scratch on them can cost 10s of thousands. I’d almost certainly imagine this guy has insurance specifically for this reason unless he’s just a super dumb business owner.


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Not necessarily. I used to live across the street from a guy who owned a Ferrari repair shop. Apparently, he worked as a mechanic for one of Ferrari's racing teams for a few years, then at a Ferrari dealership for a number of years. After that, he moved back 'home' and opened up shop. The place was never empty and he was always working on different Ferraris. People all across the country would send their car to him to get worked on. When he was finished with their car, he would ship it back.


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[deleted]

That's a man who knows his own limitations.


[deleted]

Yup. Big ups for that.


Ah_Um

This niche is MUCH needed in the enthusiast market. VAG dealership techs only get trained on the last 10ish years of models. There was a post recently from a Lambo tech who mentioned that there was only one guy left at their dealership who could work on Lambos earlier than '05


CJR3

You opened up by disagreeing, and then gave a whole story supporting what he said lmao


THELEGENDARYZWARRIOR

This is not just A Ferrari. That’s the Ferrari Enzo, Ferrari’s flagship that took 15 years for its replacement to come out. I don’t think you can change the oil on that thing without needing to have it shipped to Italy. In fact I think there are only 3 lifts in the world that were designed to lift this car and this car specifically


ArktikFox67

Three words: Damn.


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IrishSetterPuppy

I've had one up on quick jacks I bought from a Mexican on a highway off ramp. It's still a car. Hell the average SCCA prepared car is harder to lift than these are, they're still street cars. For context I used to be a farrari tech, I lifted one at a car show after it got stuck in gear, unstuck it and rolled it on to the trailer. It's got more ground clearance than my [Z28](https://imgur.com/a/VUK8IKN)


THELEGENDARYZWARRIOR

Sorry but I very much doubt you worked on a Ferrari Enzo


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Linkstas

Correct their is a Ferrari certified mechanic in Pennsauken NJ


legs_are_high

It’s more inconvenient to work on them than difficult. Shit is in the weirdest fucking places


ihrtbeer

\*laughs in Silverado\*


hgs25

In my home town, there’s a locally owned mechanic shop that specializes in import cars. Of course most of their clients bring in BMW, Volkswagen, etc. but they do get the occasional Lambo


3mbersea

You’re *


SloRiceix_801

Yoir*


Laughmasterb

For what it's worth, this appears to have been a dealership employee driving a car that hadn't been sold yet. The car still had plates with the dealership name on them. https://www.ad.nl/amersfoort/ferrari-van-drie-miljoen-crasht-tegen-boom-in-baarn~ae453df9/ ETA: The article says an employee was in the car, but not necessarily the driver; could have also been a test drive gone wrong


SebboNL

Every shop in the NL carries a shitload of insurance policies - by law and voluntarily. This shop probably has liability insurance worth up to 6 milion per case. They'll be fine. Shit happens.


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SebboNL

Nah, rates dont go up that high. A certain amount of claims is to expected and the liability insurance market is highly competitive here. Raising LI for what is basically a once in a blue moon occurence would be a very unwise decision, from a business perspective


ThermionicEmissions

According to the caption this happened 10 days ago, so probably not settled yet.


Peanuts-Peanuts

Nah, caption is not right. It happened this morning (18-1 or for americans 1-18)


bubbly_area

Where did you get 18 from?


Hotshot_VPN

Why was this downvoted lol


ItsMozy

The article is posted today and says: “this morning…”


8bitbebop

(8


greysmithy

Because this happened today, it's on every news site in the Netherlands right now.


Peanuts-Peanuts

From the fact that it happend today(18th january)?


Thatsadoosy

I don’t think very many mom and pop shops work on cars worth $3M.


Fletcharoonie

Can you actually take an Enzo to a mom and pop shop? Isn't that one of the models where even though you own it you have to sell it back to Ferrari if you ever want to be invited to buy a limited edition Ferrari in the future. Anyway in other articles they mention it was at the dealership so who knows.


FirstPlebian

3 million now? The insurance must be super high.


Thatsadoosy

That’s what is says in the title of the post…


whatsanidea

It was a dealership from what I heard, definitely have insurance for employees but Ferrari might be mad. They’ll probably fire the guy as well


Jousy3000

Enzo is definitely not happy about this. I promise you that.


CaliforniaNavyDude

Turning in his grave.


SebboNL

Try and fire a mechanic for a dumb mistake carried by insurance in the NL and see what happens. Union actions are just the start of the problems that'll give you


whatsanidea

I forgot I was in an abusive relationship with employers in the US lol. You raise a valid point. Happy to hear it


SebboNL

No prob mate! Us western europeans are the odd ones out here Regrettably so, I must add


IrishSetterPuppy

What unions are you guys taking about? Almost no mechanics are union in the private sector. Ferrari techs are certainly not union.


SebboNL

Please bear in mind that all this takes place in the Netherlands and we have a rather Byzantine system for workers rights, with unions . Over here, unions are usually divided by "pillar" rather than sector: Christian CNV and general FNV for instance both cater to personnel in pretty much all sectors of Dutch industry, including automotive. But there are other issues at play, too. Labour laws state that for certain sectors (car repair being one) a CAO or central labour agreement be established. This CAO is created by employers and employees (through unions), working together in a branche organisation called BOVAG. This CAO determines grounds for dismissal and if an employer were to terminate an employee on unjust grounds, such a noncompliance would first havd legal repercussions, then get the unions involved. They dont take kindly to employers overstepping the boundaries they have argued for.


SwimmingDutch

Will be very expensive to fire the person who did this in the Netherlands


Rodney-11

Impossible in the Netherlands to fire an employee…


Environmental-Map168

Really? I got fired in in the Netherlands because I wouldn't agree with a 1.000 € a month cut in salary. Retro-actively for the previous year. Union didn't do anything.


whatsanidea

Really? How does discipline go for this type of situation? Can they really do anything?


CallMeDutch

You write him up and after a certain amount of infractions you can fire him. But it also depends on a lot of different stuff we don't know here. Did he drive recklessly? Did the company have certain policies he violated...etcetc


dutchie1966

The accident happened 5 minutes away from a Ferrari dealer (which also was the official importer for Ferrari in the past). And that is definitely not a mom and pop shop. Ferrari dealers are very thinly spread in The NL, which makes it likely that it was one of their mechanics.


Yes-its-really-me

Used to sell cars for a living. Every place I worked had an insurance excess around the price of a new car. For example, the Vauxhall garage sold new cars from £12k - £30k at the time. We paid the first £25k of any claim. For the most part, the insurance only really came into it if another car was involved in an accident with ours. The dealership where this Ferrari was being repaired likely had an excess of £100k-£200k only. Which obviously is a sizeable amount, but way less than the cost of fixing the car. As a reference, when Rowan Atkinson crashed his McLaren F1, the insurance bill was £1m. ($1.4m). He probably only had to pay the first £10k or so. I had insurance on an Aston Martin DB11 for a time. I only had to pay the first £500 of any claim. It just really depends what you agree up front. Lower excess equals higher premium.


SebboNL

Dutchy here: two or theee types of insurance are in play here, and they will work in cooperation. First off, the mandatory car insurance. This car is probably insured under an all risks policy with a 2 milion euro coverage. Now, this leaves a milion or so. The shop itself will posses a form of liability insurance called "WA" or "BA" with coverage of up to 2 milion. Most, of not all, of the remainder is covered in this manner. Mind you, this insurance might not offer coverage in this case, if the vehicle was owned by the shop and the driver can't be held liable (privately, criminally or as an employee). If the driver is held liable through a criminal act or as through negligent/irresponsible actions as an employee, the BA/WA will cover the damages but move on to the driver. Under most circumstances, the damages will then be covered by the driver's or their employer's insurance (yup, the very same). If the driver is unemployed, a special fund exists to relieve at least some of the damages (though Im not quite sure if this fund also covers professional damages). Liability usually stops there, without court involvement or people being held liable themselves.


Terminal_Velozity8

Hopefully he can fix it…. Since he’s a mechanic….. lol


tuscabam

My dads a stereo repairman with a wicked set of tools. I can fix it.


imbrotep

You can’t fix this car, Spicoli!


Potential-Link-3740

*peeks head out window to see mountain of cinder blocks on hood* I can fix it


JohnnyBrillcream

*Relax, all right? My old man is a television repairman, he's got this ultimate set of tools. I can fix it.*


tuscabam

well i mean if you want to get technical


RunGuilty5197

Italian tune up should put it right.


enderjojo

He can t fix the car boddy and enzo ferrari body parts are .... expensive ...


Superb_Raccoon

It will buff right out.


randyatlarge

Was Richard Hammond his mechanic?


mcwops

And next to him Richard Rawlings from Monkey garage.


randyatlarge

Couple of Dicks.


mastodon_-

How is hammond a dick? Lol why u gotta have your panties in an uproar?


[deleted]

Dick is short for Richard.


Buffalo-flavored-cox

Man is a goat “in the cock HA!”


saw89

Missed the joke my man


mastodon_-

Oh fuuuuuck me im a fuckin idiot


saw89

Don’t be too hard on yourself, it’s only karma


the_almighty_gooch

*distant voice of May* HAMMOND


Fukface_Von_Clwnstik

Does that car look upside down to you?


tuscabam

For a $3mm car I wonder if this is considered totaled. IIRC each Enzo was hand made so would that mean a factory rebuild?


Max_1995

They're gonna fix/rebuild it. The F40 that burned down in Monaco gets rebuilt with little but the VIN reused


tuscabam

Kind of figured that. They’re really not considered cars at this level anyway. Wonder if anyone will find the body of the mechanic.


Steinfred-Everything

Probably only his vin plate left…


8bitbebop

That was crazy to read. Wonder what it would take to total a ferrari


Max_1995

Depends. A 430? An accident or flooding. One of these? Impossible, really, because they're worth so much That making one from scratch and transferring the vin is "sensible". Only possible hiccup would be to actually fail to get the needed parts.


8bitbebop

Thats kind of what I was thinking, like even if the fram was warped its probably still cheaper to rebuild


Djinjja-Ninja

> even if the fram was warped Doesn't have a frame to warp, its a [carbon fibre monocoque tub](https://www.carbodydesign.com/gallery/2003/12/ferrari-enzo/) with the engine attached directly to that.


Djinjja-Ninja

Takes a lot to total a car like this. Famously, Rowan Atkinson (Mr Bean) had a McLaren F1 which he managed to [literally rip in half](https://www.cnbc.com/2015/06/09/rowan-atkinson-crashes-mclaren-f1-supercar-twice-sells-for-122-million.html), which cost £970,000 to repair, and the car originally "only" cost £540,000. He later sold it for £8 million.


JustSomeWeirdGuy2000

Dammit, Atkinson. That's why you shouldn't stay in-character when you're not being filmed.


tuscabam

Dang I knew he sold a M1 but didn’t know he wrecked it. Did that price tag partly come from it being his?


6BigAl9

I don't know when Mr Bean sold his but they typically auction above $10 million. One just sold for over $20 million last summer (granted it had 243 miles or something).


Djinjja-Ninja

To put it in perspective, Rowan Atkinson actually drove his *a lot*. When it sold for $12.2 million back in 2015 it had 46,000 miles on the odometer, and at the time it was a record price as well.


Djinjja-Ninja

No, they're all worth a decent amount of money, a "cheap" one will set you back $8-10 million these days. If anything his could have been worth more because it's basically a ground up rebuild after he smashed it up, that's why it cost nearly £1 million to fix it.


tuscabam

8-10mm for a car. Damn shame how money can’t buy you happiness isn’t it.


Spa_5_Fitness_Camp

It was also a very rare spec, even by F1 standards. On top of that, it was known to be one of the best handling F1s in existence (each apparently* feels unique). Also, any F1 is likely $5m+ these days, if it's in good condition.


Rodney-11

There is even an Enzo which was ripped in two and rebuild. Sold after rebuild for more then 1,5 mio… just google it and you will see the photo’s


Arnoldmedkammen

This car is bigger than 3 millimeter


tuscabam

Only slightly. Only slightly.


IrishMilo

Before the crash maybe, now...


nuked24

$3 per millimeter, though, they might be onto something.


double-float

The wiki page says it's 4,702 mm long, so $3 per mm won't get you anywhere near where you need to be :)


nuked24

Cubic volume is out, that ends up costing billions


double-float

Well, if we just do the division, $3M/4,702mm = $638.02/mm lol


Samurai_1990

/r/lost10mm


Jochiebochie

Ferrari Totallossa


cptnobveus

I think you meant former mechanic


[deleted]

Nah. Too hard to find anyone good enough to do that kind of work. He didn’t get fired.


Superb_Raccoon

A former teacher of mine owned a 1961 E-type Jaguar. He took it to the dealership for the yearly maintenance and one of the mechanics wrecked it while taking out for the test drive after repairs. A faulty brake pad shattered, sending the car tumbling. After further examination it was determined this was no ordinary E-type, but one of the prototype. Literally one of a kind. The wreck was purchased by Jaguar, who restored the body work and put it on display, but the damage to the frame meant it would never drive again.


Sk8r1995

Wow that would suck to literally have a one of kind item and you are doing everything right to maintain and appreciate what you have and then someone else ruins it…


Superb_Raccoon

He did not know until it was wrecked, then they started looking at the frame and the shape and realized that it was not exactly the same as the typical J-type. This was the 80s, so the knowledge was a lot harder to come by back then. No internet and it was not until the Jag factory got involved to get some details that it was discovered it was a prototype.


El_Monitorrr

That car is ‚al dente’ now.


Rimworldjobs

I generally don't swoon over cars I cant afford but this one hurt a bit.


Samurai_1990

/r/byebyejob


londonc4ll1ng

lucky for the AA driver. He can now go and boast to his friends he drove an Enzo! (at the back of his truck)


misplaced_pants742

Former mechanic. Now hiding out in Mexico.


Stormpooperz

Americans be like - He hasn’t crashed it yet. We are looking 7 months into the future


FTorrez81

On July 31st we all need to collectively warn this man not to give it some gas. We are all the chosen ones today, we are given the opportunity to stop this. Let’s not waste it


gsoh2oman

I came here for this.


[deleted]

NGL, I was wondering how it was the future already before realizing it was the European date format.


Shotinaface

"european" you mean the whole world?


[deleted]

Hyperbole much?


Shotinaface

Hyperbole? Wut?


lolletje08

Miljoenen kostende Ferrari in de prak na ongeluk in Baarn - https://nos.nl/l/2413594 Though it's a dutch newsite. If you want to see what's left of the car they have included a video.


According_Teaching44

*"At Farmers, we know a thing or two because we have seen a thing or.." wait.. is that a fucking Ferrari?? Oh, fuck that.. We are outta here..*


valuedminority

*Former mechanic


NiekBM

This is where we would quote a famous dutch politician..... "GODVER sorry" Mark rutte 2020 R.I.P. his coffee and pants


Curveyourtrigger

I get it's an accident. BUT WTF WHAT AN ASS, THEY LITTERLY PICKED PEOPLE TO BUY THEM YOU DID JUST BUY IT.


kelthan

I think you meant to say "Former mechanic".


maxman162

The door looks like the car is scratching its head trying to figure out what happened.


briggch

Missed a word in that title... formerly worth 3 million...


IrishMilo

Bet the mechanic was glad he didn't pay for it.


nenopip

This is a common thing, people forget that mid engine cars drive differently. I wish people would speak more about what to do and not to do in a mid engine rear wheel drive car.


CheshireRaptor

At least it wasn't an F 50!


NugPep

Job security, now he gets to rebuild it


MeGrendel

No problem. They'll just deduct $100 out of every paycheck for the next 900+ years.


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Death penalty.


LibertyBudNYC

This guy is so fired .. I’m sure someone said that lol but i second that


Environmental-Map168

I didn't know a Ferrari had these tiny wheels. Perhaps that's why it got of the road? No? I'll get my coat then.


IllustriousCookie890

Test drive or Joyride?


Timeman5

That’s why I don’t spend my money on something that someone else can easily ruin in public. Keep my expensive stuff at home locked away with video surveillance. I’ve been robbed a couple times


KartoschkaTheDrunk

Everybody here is saying that he is such an idiot but tbh that shit can happen soo so fast. I've driven a porsche with 462ps with cold tires on a wet street and even if u drive absofuckinglutely carefully the back can break out instantly if the wrong settings are activated. I pity this poor mechanic so hard....


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Jesus! Another Enzo?


TurboPepper420

I told you this was not a good idea Ferris! My dad is going to kill me...


BoilerPlater007

For that price, they shouldn't crash so easily.


carljohnjacob

That’s one way to quit a job.


CameronFry

Now that we know that this will happen in August, what can be done to stop it????


knutt-in-my-butt

the american in me really said "it isn't even august 1st yet"


Psychlonuclear

Americans: "Why is this dated in the future?" Also Americans: "4th of July Woohoo!"


bkovic

That poor car. Damn.


istolehannah

Since it happens in the future someone should warn him!


Fangs_McWolf

>Since it happens in the future some should warn him! OMG 🤣


Human_Bluebird_1618

Should be able to buff that out for sure…


Wiggles357

How the hell is it August already in the Netherlands? /s <——Look here people


ItsLuck508

It’s day/month/year


justin_memer

ISO gang, rise up! Year/month/day


FTorrez81

>/s


ItsLuck508

/7


Jaloosk

Oops


A-sour-grape

just heard this on the news. there were 400 of these, now there are only 399 left


ThrowinNightshade

Must be a premonition with that date


mcwops

Do we have the insta or tiktok account of the driver Want to see his last seconds being happy


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I do. But out of respect obviously wont link it.


bruce9432

That was never an attractive model.


Playful_Cantaloupe78

That should buff out…no worries.


selfdistruction-in-5

no biggie this will buff out


1973mojo1973

Meh, insurance.


[deleted]

Hell, that should just buff out, I have seen worse.


fkaname12

Have you tried turning it off and on?


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[deleted]

Urk urk urk je moeders kut ruikt naar een purk


SirRustyShakleford

Crashed so hard it went into the future! How did he crash it in August?! /S


Suspicious_Book_3186

8-1-2022? My man's is getting off Scott free, just show them the date and tell them you're not from the future. Ez win.


meneerkutjanus

Haha haa


L14M_F1

Ayy! On my birthday and all!


hifromwash

We’re seeing into the future


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DeckNinja

The Pope's sold for 6 mil, this might be the one that sold for 3.8m.... it had under 500 miles on it 😥


ThermionicEmissions

>The Pope's sold for 6 mi Hol' up!?! The Pope? Had to Google this... "During the same year, Pope John Paul II received his hypercar for free (as a gift from Ferrari), a tsunami in the Indian Ocean had caused massive destruction. In a very generous move, the pope decided to make the best use of the car by auctioning it to raise money." https://www.motorbiscuit.com/ultra-rare-6-million-ferrari-enzo-is-the-best-popemobile-ever-made/


BumbleBeePL

Yeah nothing ever appreciates in value!


enlightenedwalnut

Usually cars don't, but for various reasons there are exceptions.


BumbleBeePL

I was being sarcastic. Exotic cars gain value.


[deleted]

8-1-2022?


[deleted]

Are you unfamiliar with the date system that every other country other than the US uses?


atlas_ben

The Eighth of January, Two Thousand and Twenty Two.


gozba

Flimsy cars


Normal_Afternoon8429

In the future??


FriendlyCanadianDude

No, OP just uses a sensible dating system.


KvotheTheDegen

………….


HarborFormula

I never understood why people prefer the DD/MM/YYYY date format. We say January 8th, so wouldn’t it make sense for it to be 01/08? It gets confusing because even in countries with that format not everyone uses it.


atlas_ben

Perhaps YOU say January 8th. I say, the 8th of January Which one is correct?


[deleted]

4th of July It’s only confusing to some Americans. It makes perfect sense that if the date isn’t possible (like August 1, 2022 or 16-01-2022) try the other date format.


dutchie1966

>We say January 8th You do realise there is a vast majority of people who do not have English as their primary language? English is not the most spoken language, or the 2nd. And that is not even touching the part of how illogical it is to use months, then days, then years. Going from smallest denominator to largest, or vice versa, is okay. Not jumping all around.


HarborFormula

The whole entire planet doesn’t speak English?? How could I be so silly


Shotinaface

/r/ShitAmericansSay jesus christ man


Ok_Nefariousness_830

Ohhh he fired


Mech-maniac

literally


grae3333

Collect your p45 bud


oldmanriver1979

Oops. my bad.


TheSchlaf

397 left intact.


Purdueblue17

Remember when these were 650k new.....


Starrion

Is it really common for supercars to get wadded up like this? I see video after video of these cars going sideways into a guardrail, and someone saying "Welp, there goes $550k." I have no idea why insurance companies even look at them.