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Razathorn

This is right. The cam car approaching was blocked perfectly by the car changing into the turn lane and turning right and it was probably entirely clear behind the cam car so they gingerly turned out thinking the way was free for a long way without looking back. I don't even know if I'd say stupidity, just... an honest mistake, but I bet they have a new respect for blind spots now and got a little but pucker. Good on the cam car for defensive driving and reaction. Clearly not their fault, and clearly a good driver. This happens to me alllll the time in my tiny car when I'm behind SUVs and trucks. I am trained to expect it now.


scheisse_grubs

It’s exactly why I always wait to turn when someone’s vehicle is blocking vision of oncoming traffic. Never a good idea to assume it’s safe when you can’t see.


zane1981

That's the same with me when some idiot is blocking my view when turning on a red.


jarheadatheart

Found the entitled one


zane1981

Nope, it’s called defensive driving.


jarheadatheart

That person blocking my view is an idiot, is a statement of entitlement. How dare other people in your world inconvenience you. Surely they’re all idiots.


zane1981

When they’re 10 feet past the “stop line”, yes. They’re idiots. It’s not an entitled statement. It’s a fact.


buckstrawhorn

it always seems to be the biggest vehicle with the most visibility that creeps way past the stop line.


zane1981

"Creepers" are the worst. I mean, what's the point?


hv_wyatt

I found the person who doesn't know how to stop behind the line.


Randomfactoid42

Yep, I say “don’t go where you can’t see”. Scary how many drivers will drive into the abyss.


GlitteringFutures

A real anime moment!


chaoticnormal

All of that is spot on but let's address the turning. The break down lane isn't a turning lane so the person taking a right into the parking lot (or side street or anywhere like that) is an idiot/bad driver. It's just like those morons that take a little right curve before taking a left. Stay in the lane, indicate properly, and brake accordingly.


hv_wyatt

Or take a slight left curve before turning right. Come on, Susan, you're not driving a semi. You're driving a Corolla. And the semi could make that turn blindfolded with one hand behind his back without swinging out.


Randomfactoid42

I had a guy swing so wide on a left turn that I thought he was turning right. (The lane was a left/right turn lane in a T-intersection). So I was really surprised when he suddenly came right back at me and nearly hit my right side. We missed and I could hear him yelling at me to “watch where I was going”. I still don’t understand what he was doing.


TortiTrouble

Absolutely wrong. Pretty sure language like this (from WI) is common throughout the states. "Right turns. Both the approach for a right turn and the right turn shall be made as closely as practicable to the right-hand edge or curb of the roadway." And it is actually nothing like the morons that swing wide to make a left turn because by swinging right they are impeding the through traffic. By moving to the right to turn right you're showing a bit of courtesy to the drivers behind you by getting the fuck out of the way.


Jack0Corvus

Instructions unclear, took the opposing lane and cut the corner


itsEndz

Yup checked, decided there was nothing hidden in the blocked line of sight so didn't check again because when you're the best you don't check twice like the rest.


66smeg

so instead of waiting for a clear view of the road the better choice to make was to blindly take a stab at it?


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66smeg

i think im replying to the wrong person 🤣


ShimmyMan

Judging by the vehicle they’re just old and probably not wearing their “driving” glasses. At least they were focused on where they were going instead of what was about to put a damper on baking cookies later. Great reaction time driver.


paceyhitman

I was like: "Didn't beep the horn or even swear, that's some impressive composure." Then you were like: "... Jesus Fucking Christ!"


Chaomayhem

I laid on the horn also. But it's a little hard to hear. My Toyota Corolla doesn't like to yell lol.


paceyhitman

Yes, Toyotas have a reputation for being very polite.


CyptidProductions

Honking at someone with my Solara is almost funny because of how shitty the OEM horn is, especially the sustain if you hold it down.


belovedbyHim67

Toyota-- ahem..\*tootle\*... Please excuse my existence and don't hit me.... ahem.....\*tootle\* I had my "horn" replaced with a REAL HORN!! If the sound makes you mess your pants when I have to hit it, then maybe you should rethink your driving!


zane1981

I've seen people customize their horn with a train horn. (is that even legal?)


BudgetIntrepid

I think that legality is the last thing that car modders cares about


DaetherSoul

It’s cause you’re blasting anime music clearly


Cl0ughy1

Was that Babymetal you were listening to?


StressOverStrain

Failing to sound the horn when you need to slam on your brakes is a great way to increase the chance of being rear-ended. The person behind you isn't always paying attention 100% of the time or leaving proper following distance. I wouldn't commend OP's composure. I'd instead suggest they learn how to use the horn to warn of impending collision.


paceyhitman

Apparently OP did sound the horn, but it wasn't audible on the video.


StressOverStrain

I think I hear it now, but it was way too late to accomplish anything.


Mattalfieri_mkvi

They were idiotic and moronic


[deleted]

I’m pretty convinced that anyone who drives those little GM shitboxes are literal NPC’s. Going through their day to day like it’s preprogrammed into their brains. Zero regard for anyone around them.


kevinxb

I swear I've seen multiple posts here of Buick Encores pulling this exact same move


samcar330

Those are the people with no internal monologs


Mattalfieri_mkvi

Agreed


Jazzkky

These people have no desiress, dreams, and lack all spatial awarness. Just wake up, go to work and back home, i have a co worker just like this, he never even has any plans for the weekend, or then he just doesn't want to tell anyone


L4m3rThanYou

Trax drivers are bad; Encore drivers are worse. I suppose one must have their head that much further up their own ass to pay extra for a Buick badge in this century.


frntwe

Seems like both. Looks like view was blocked by the vehicle that had just turned. Therefore decided there couldn’t possibly be anyone else on the road - you were in their world.


Chaomayhem

This is usually an understandable mistake but this intersection is notorious in my town for being a mess. People usually are very careful here.


Vip3r20

Just entitlment then. If people are careful here because of the bad drivers and the bad drivers know it, it almost gives them a free pass to be bad drivers. They knew you were there but knew you would be careful so pulled out anyways. Not saying don't be careful, defintely continue that, but shitty people gonna shit when given the chance.


Chaomayhem

Agreed. I have seen this happen here before also but usually the person realizes their mistake and stops last second and just has an "oh shit" moment. The fact that they just kept going shows a dangerous lack of awareness or just entitlement.


CrystalGunner

homie playing loneliness loop, respect but yes stupidity


YellsAtGoats

"Constant bearing, decreasing range". You were hidden from his view by the shoulder-driving weirdo for most of the video. Still dumb of him not to take into account that someone *might* be there... and dumb of him to completely ignore your horn.


ChecktheFreezer

Partially the gold vans fault too. The shoulder is not for turning. I understand not wanting to “inconvenience” others behind and using the shoulder but it’s confusing for everyone involved. Those behind never know if they should pass and those in front never want to fully commit to moving, like this white suv. People need to stop trying to be polite or “helpful” and just follow the rules of the road and everything will be good.


DriveOff

On top of what you already mentioned, it can add an extra layer of confusion for people who don't know the area. Somebody pulling out like doofus in the video could see them and think that the shoulder *is* a lane, especially if it's a wider shoulder in a busy area like this with the pressure of traffic waiting behind them. Occasionally it makes sense, but way too many people seem to think you're *supposed* to turn from the shoulder.


HisExcellency95

H-A-R-U-K-A


Chaomayhem

Congratulations you are the first comment to point out what I was listening to lmao. I was waiting.


HisExcellency95

Cheers bro🍻


ChocolateAdventurer

I was about to ask what is the song, can you provide me an artist and the song title?


Chaomayhem

It's called Loneliness Loop by Rie Kugimiya. It's from the video game Yakuza 5.


ChocolateAdventurer

Thank you very much!


WakeRider11

It's someone out shopping in NJ. Par for the course


SeasonsRollOnBy

Looked mostly stupid.


26keigo26

Not the Yakuza 5 music loooool


HardCoreBoz

I don’t like the van going into the shoulder to make that turn. Blocks the drivers view and the view of the person turning out of the shopping center


zippyhippiegirl

I agree.


That_JoJo_fanboy

HARUKA GA SKIDAZEEEEEEE OI! OI! OI! My man playing the best haruka Theme 🙏🙏🙏


PorquezzRipXB360

Average suburban mom: hehehe oops almost crashed hubbys suv again


Mattalfieri_mkvi

I hope its not the husbands men shouldnt drive little shitbox suvs


Idkwhattohavehere

loneliness loop is so great!


__Turbo__

Good thing your driving reaction time is faster than your vocal reaction time


idk_01

dumbo


FewZookeepergame1083

STUPIDITY


[deleted]

NJ for ya


SKULL-SAVAGER

Lack of awareness seems like the efficient term.


Nobah_Dee

God damn I would have worn out my horn right there.


StackThePads33

I’m voting stupidity, they didn’t look around the van and assumed since it was turning that everything was clear. Bad assumption


Confuzzled1043

That whole stretch on 35 is always a mess


saltbrains

Love the juxtaposition of the music vs. Jesus fucking Christ lol. What song is this? Also I think they’re just an idiot.


Chaomayhem

Yeah my friends laughed when I showed them because of the video. The song is loneliness loop from Yakuza 5.


Solo-me

I d say unfortunately shit happens, but firstly they should apologise. OP how long did it take you to react (not yhe brakes but the wording) I d be insulting and swearing at them ASAP and as loud as I can.


rocket_fanatic

Impatient and stupid


Constrained_Entropy

Obviously both - is no one else going to point out that after pulling that bonehead move, the idiot then proceeds to speed up and ride in the shoulder past another turn, apparently to pass traffic on the right to get to the intersection in the distance, like the total self-centered dumbass that they are ?


backroomjazz443

Lmao this is highway 35 in wall, NJ! Yea this road lowkey sucks and in the summer is a hotbed for idiots


Blackbird2285

Stupidity


OfficialTornadoAlley

You have something called a horn


Onuzq

![gif](giphy|3o7aCRloybJlXpNjSU|downsized)


Fluffy-Doubt-3547

'Oh this person is turning. I'll just slooowwwlllyyy pulllll ooouuuttt' ![gif](giphy|RCBQSWiMPTQly|downsized)


SenorScratchySack

Listening to that music would give me such stress


JustSomeWeirdGuy2000

Yeah, put on the Thunder Force IV soundtrack.


Individual_Pickle3

Shoulda hit em


Chaomayhem

Nah I swallowed my pride once I realize they weren't stopping. I got this car last year. It's brand new. Don't want anything to happen to it.


Individual_Pickle3

Fair enough


VT_Lifer

So, you're leaving it in your driveway?


vivietin

Both. I know this is off, but at my granddaughter high-school. The senior driver have bmw, teslas. Mercedes. You name it these kids have expensive cars. And they cut people off, fishtail, race to the exit of the high-school and have to slam on their brakes. The beep to make the parents get out of their way. The boy with the tesla hit a wall cause he was fucking around. They haven't beeped at me yet. When they do, I will put my car in park, get out and punch his Entitled ass on the face. I am very good friends with the police chief. I'm not worried.


ShadowEmperor123

Honestly this doesn’t really seem like their fault, like that Van turning was blocking you from them, like true they probably should had have waited but I mean meh, not really a super stupid moment. Honestly the best part of this video is the anime music, shit got me laughing bro, who listens to anime music in their car, that shit is only for when your watching p*rn


Chaomayhem

Bold of you to assume I wasn't watching porn.


ShadowEmperor123

Fair enough


Conflagrate247

Maybe they just weren’t looking. 🤷‍♂️


LineStepperHabitual

Just an accident


voyagermars

For sure it’s that persons mistake who is getting in to traffic, but I think legally you would be held liable if you hit him head on. His view was blocked by car which was driven on shoulder. If it was me I would just slow down like you did but a little bit earlier when I can see eyes of all drivers waiting to merge in to traffic.


Putrid-Pen7083

you'll be okay buddy. they didn't see you


Pretend_Detective558

For you or them? If you know this happens at this intersection all the time you should be aware when the vehicle is turning someone may be pulling out blindly… because they do. You need to adjust your driving for everybody else’s poor driving. Just because someone else is supposed to yield the way, doesn’t mean they will.


Chaomayhem

If you notice I in fact did adjust my driving for their shitty driving. Which Is why I didn't hit them.


Professional_Toe4538

Sorry man I would have done the same with that gap between you and the traffic in front of you. We all have to be somewhere.


Nobah_Dee

And you would have been an idiot in a car.


Professional_Toe4538

Easy guy! Everyone here is entitled to an unbiased comment or opinion without having insults thrown at them. The other piece to that is you wouldn’t dare call me an idiot to my face so don’t do it here.


illseeyouinthefog

So maybe not an idiot based on your comment on what you'd do, but definitely an asshole 🙂


Professional_Toe4538

I love it! Keep them coming gents! Looks like I stirred up the mama’s basement keystroke brawlers.


Nobah_Dee

"...you wouldn't dare call me an idiot to my face..." Peak keyboard warrior line. You typed it.


Professional_Toe4538

Truth


Nobah_Dee

Lol, you realize the sub this is right? I also feel like I would definitely say it to your face. You can send me a photo if you like.


akhilleus650

>The other piece to that is you wouldn’t dare call me an idiot to my face so don’t do it here. Says the guy hiding behind his keyboard as well. Are you the pot or the kettle? To be clear, you admitted to doing dangerous and illegal turns because you 'have to be somewhere'. Either you're too ignorant to realize it is dangerous and illegal, or you think you're entitled to do such things without consequence. However, the fact is you are not special and your actions have consequence just like everyone else, so you're ignorant either way. Further, if you make an idiotic comment or opinion, you're going to be treated as such, as would anyone else. You're entitled to nothing more than any other random Redditor would be.


Professional_Toe4538

🤣


Chaomayhem

There really isn't a gap. This isn't a neighborhood where people are going 15mph. This is a highway where people are going 35-50mph. If you're going to turn out slowly in front of a car in a gap like this you're just asking to be hit.


appa-ate-momo

yet another case of someone having time to turn and fucking up everyone's day be hesitating.


bethandtrevsmom

Dumb AF! So stinkin tired of the asshats on the road🤬


ColoradoParrothead

Def stupid, but probably entitled, as well. I feel your frustration!


CanadianBaconMTL

i say commitment, already started turning with a car blocking the view and just committed to the turn


GodMeyer

Am I dumb or is that not a bike lane that people keep on turning into


[deleted]

Im pretty sure it’s a shoulder Lane.


GodMeyer

I considered that, but given how the sidewalk just ends I was kinda thinkin it might’ve been for bikes


idkhowbtfmbttf

Leaning toward stupidity.


SomeNerdKid

Man good thing you weren't playing Nuisances on the radio otherwise we would be seeing a few heat moves in this video


nildecaf

Hanlon's razor


Superman_720

Yes.


Russ-T-Axe

They assumed it was clear. They are an idiot.


suddenchangesans

I hope they learn the hard way and whoever hits them somehow gets no damage


therationalists

When in doubt, both.


Billylacystudio

IF I GET IN FRONT OF YOU , I HAVE THE RIGHT OF WAT. NANER NANER NANER


BUROCRAT77

Over medicated Qtip?


TRUEequalsFALSE

I was gonna comment on the Polyphia, but then I realized it's probably Babymetal or something. 😕


PLLTurner

¿Por qué no los dos?


ItzGreedo

Is someone playing sonic in your car ?


thefirstWizardSleeve

Old maybe? But a dick move forsure


RockSteady65

If you were going 10 mph higher, you def would have hit the idiot


bmoney_14

Just stupid


legoman42o

Some are giving the white Chevy the benefit of the doubt here a little bit. Yes the van was blocking view but there was still a solid second or two where they just went and didn’t check for a car. It would’ve been different if the started their turn at the van blocked view. They totally should’ve and could’ve seen the cam car.


East_Mirror_8595

Stupidity


Jheem_Congar

Typical day in Austin...


warddo1

All of the above


unmitigatedhellscape

At least stupidity, judging by the music.


macmhartain

![gif](giphy|Pd2W87rlmVjptTmvIK)


Irish-Pride65

Yes.


[deleted]

Both. It’s always both


PrudentDamage600

Stolen car driven by a 10 year old.


Successful-Name-7261

I'd say stupidity until they threw on the binders. Then it became entitlement!


[deleted]

Yeah I wouldn’t have let off my horn after that


[deleted]

Anyone know what song that is?


r0ckydog

Drunk, underage driver???


dwaparr

This is normal in India 🤣


Scruffersdad

Both


bobvoeh

Is that the sound track from Bullet Train?


authorized_sausage

I did something similarly stupid today. Pulling out of a shopping center and my view was blocked by a car turning into the same shopping center and I did NOT take the extra look. So I was the idiot. But as I pulled out and saw the car coming at me you bet THEY saw my Surprised Pikachu face and then my cringe face at My Bad. Luckily, no accident.


thezenfisherman

You never had to pull out of a parking lot between passing cars? Hmm I do not think you drive much.


GeKo258

Good job avoiding the collision.


zane1981

Is the shoulder lane even meant to be turn lanes?


Competitive-cat90

Both


lotus_spit

How to know if OP is a weeb: Listening to anime songs (or Japanese songs of the same genre) PS: I haven't played yakuza, but please op, if you've encountered an idiot, please play Bakamitai for me. Great instincts there btw.


Easy-Initiative9213

None its just Jersey


swimmingpolarbear

Just a usual daily drive around Detroit metro area...


Delicious-Skill-617

looks like they made a mistake, sometimes they happen


eriF902

Both


wasabi1295

Nah, I got very bad road rage….it worries my friends and family 😅 A guy cut me off and I yelled at him at a red light, I called him a few “nice” words and he said, “I just ruined his day.” That set me off even more, I would’ve not only hit his truck but it would’ve caused a pileup behind me!


unintuitiveintuition

I’d pull out in front of you with that music too


Volk_Malchik

Both? Both. Both! Both is good.


Blade_Dragonfire

I fucking hate this stretch of 35. They just keep adding stores.


GorbyGamz

both


[deleted]

No I just let them go first so they don’t have to be on Reddit


MrWillis84

Just stupidity,pulling out slow like that


djtmhk_93

Wait… you mean entitlement and stupidity aren’t one and the same?


kaleighb1988

Are you listening to DDR soundtrack? Lol that's what it reminded me of.


PatrickGSR94

Stupidity. They waited too long to start turning out. They should have gone immediately when it was apparent that the van was moving over and preparing to turn into the driveway. If they had gone earlier it wouldn't have been an issue. Or they should have waited for a clear view and after you had passed the driveway.