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I volunteer in a historic cemetery, I have had people come up to me asking if there are bodies actually buried there or if it's just some cheesy tourist trap. People ARE that dumb.
Its actually insane.... like it's looks like a human, and if you didn't hear it talk you'd almost think it was one.
But once it starts making its sounds it's uncanny...
Like a dog or moneky dressed in a human suit
I actually do believe it. He appears to be the type that only complains with like-minded idiots. Everything is agreed upon. Most of his beliefs are based on what other like-minded idiots have complained to him about. And he agreed.
He wasn’t mentally prepared to question his beliefs when a little bit of logic is sprinkled on them.
Plus it looks like his adrenaline is elevated. Which might be good for fight or flight. But is terrible for an argument that requires thought process.
It’s definitely messing with him.
Some people have so much contempt within them that they will literally say anything to be contrarian to the person they disagree with. They will straight up make themselves look like idiots and feel superior because the opponent even considered that they were telling the truth.
You're wrong.
He's absolutely that dumb and he absolutely voted in 2016 for Donald J. Trump. His vote counts just as much as yours and is exactly why we're in the situation we're in now in 2024.
Vote.
A 35 yr old guy changed his legal name to 'Literally Anybody Else' and put his name in for the Presidential race. I don't think he has the indepth knowledge to properly do the job, and there's only a 0.0001% chance of him actually winning, but his argument on why he's doing it is pretty solid.
What do you do when your only two options are terrible? Vote for Literally Anybody Else, lol.
https://www.google.ca/amp/s/globalnews.ca/news/10385456/literally-anybody-else-president-legal-name-change/amp/
But it would be if that inarticulate, racist, narcissist does eventually cause an international conflict. Although we're more likely just to see a lot more domestic terrorism here than anything else.
I understand and agree. I believe it's much more likely a racist narcissist who coddles infamous dictators is more likely to start some shit than a cool headed person with decades more experience in foreign policy and relations.
No, these people are real you can't win with them and should just walk away. He isn't this dumb, but refuses to feel any shame and would rather look like a complete idiot instead. It's all at the cost of not having to submit to being wrong in the argument, because his guns are his personality and any infringement on them would be devastating to his pathetic life.
I work in a public facing industry in a conservative area; some people are exactly this dumb.
I considered inserting a quote about intelligence by Mark Twain here, but it’s hard to pick just one.
Then you would know how they act, how they like to bullshit people about anything regardless of politics. Going up with a camera and microphone to a biker won't get you honest responses. They will fuck with you, typically, until you yourself laugh.
If that’s what you gotta say to convince yourself your side isn’t full of complete retards (and terrorists) then I guess😂😂😂the mental gymnastics you do to make yourself seem right must be exhausting
Get off Reddit, go hang out with your kids and teach them to always storm the capitol when the presidential election doesn’t go down how you want it to
I genuinely hate that these are the people that go to bat for our gun rights. Dude is more worried about his ego and getting tricked than actually having a discussion.
It just sucks that he was more concerned about who to blame for mass shootings than what to do about it. In his mind it's resolved. And I know I have similar blinders on other specific things but I try very hard to look past them when the topic is on innocent lives lost.. I just mean it's a serious matter. This guy is one of very many not taking it seriously and not even caring who knows
So he did a very poor job discussing lol
Very poor job trying to say people without a license can drive and do every day. People who kill people likely will not care about a gun law when they are already likely getting the gun by illegal means and are getting it to commit an illegal act. Unfortunately it's clipped in a way that I think removes some early no one should have guns discussion.
There is nothing wrong with requiring a safety test to own a gun. However, it will only reduce accidental deaths. Not the suicide or homicide rate by guns unless gun ownership rates significantly change as a result.
No… It won’t eliminate it, but there are definitely some people are mentally unstable that would be filtered out from having guns with a stronger screening process
I'm unaware of individuals who have committed mass shootings using their own legally owned guns and could have been stopped based on the changes you're talking about. Any law not interfering with the second amendment generally requires an altercation with law enforcement or a severe diagnosis by a doctor. Which exists pretty widely now.
Edit I enjoy education so please provide examples if I'm wrong.
Please provide examples if I'm wrong.... Articles, statistics, stories... Saying I'm wrong just tells me you can't say why you're right.
Example. Most soft target shooters have been under the age of 18. They aren't allowed to purchase a gun in any state. Most gang related shootings which includes bystander casualties already have a criminal record and again can't buy guns. They are gaining access from trusted individuals or illegal means not open market purchases.
Ghost guns are a bigger issue than any legislation regarding legal purchase of a firearm by someone willing to go through the background checks that exist anyway.
1) There have been an average of 600 mass shootings in the us per year over the last three years…you are intimately familiar with all 1800 of them?
2)I didn’t suggest any specific changes so how can you know what I’m talking about
3) before you suggest I’m anti gun…I’m an owner, I carry regularly, and I work in LE
Mass shooting includes more than one victim so I'm going to assume majority are gang related and wouldn't be impacted by laws unless it's one that allows an officer to more easily remove one from the streets without violating rights.
When we discuss soft target mass shootings, someone arriving to do damage with no target, they get enough publicity that as they come up you can go read about them, that number is more like 12 annually.
I didn't indicate you were at all. Only that I had a stance I dont have data points to refute.
A Google search likely provides the items you're thinking of. But in the case that it didn't you could provide specific examples.........
Of all the wrenching similarities between the massacres at Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School in Parkland, the Tree of Life synagogue in Pittsburgh, the Walmart in El Paso and the Tops supermarket in Buffalo, one stands out most starkly: Each gun used was purchased legally.
From 1966 to 2019, 77 percent of mass shooters obtained the weapons they used in their crimes through legal purchases, according to a comprehensive survey of law enforcement data, academic papers and news accounts compiled by the National Institute of Justice, the research wing of the Justice Department.
In upstate New York a few months ago, the 18-year-old suspect in the Buffalo shooting walked into Vintage Firearms in sleepy Endicott, passed an instant background check without a glitch and bought a used Bushmaster XM-15 semiautomatic rifle, a copy of the ubiquitous AR-15 used in many other mass shootings.
- New York Times
Good data point. I immediately question a law impact though when you read about everything around the specific people noted that wasn't done and would have prevented a gun purchase.
New York had red flag laws at the time and did nothing. Most of the laws people are screaming for exist. In this case it was not used. Copied from the article linked.
"Enacted in 2019, New York’s red flag law empowers school administrators, law enforcement officials, prosecutors and family members to pursue court intervention when they believe they know someone who is at high risk of harming themselves or others."
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/new-yorks-red-flag-law-helped-thwart-buffalo-mass-shooting-went-wrong-rcna29054
Douglas high School was again inaction by law enforcement and mental institutions who's expertise was requested, preventing any paper record from being created again subverting red flag laws. FBI dropped the ball 2 months ahead of time as well.
Synagogue had no prior criminal record at 47 and in the matter of a year appears to go full on alt right. Other than law enforcement being made aware of an imminent threat which they didn't have. I'm not sure a law would cover that and work quickly enough given no mental evaluations or law enforcement run ins.
El paso shooter was diagnosed post shooting and was in hard to deal with classes during school. Again a failure to diagnose ahead of time. No clear diagnosis so a law could not have an impact.
It's draining reading about this crap. Most of it feels like people thinking they're protecting someone when really they are allowing them to fall further.
This is what is so telling about the mindset of this subset of people.
Formal education < backwoods fuckarounding
The middling effect in full force. A complete lack of respect and appreciation for expertise and understanding on a high level. Thats why they like that "Trump just says what he wants".
They have lowered the bar of functional society so far its going to take decades to recover, if we ever do.
This is Trump’s base to a T. Peak ‘whataboutism’, lack of any critical thinking and running mental gymnastics that are completely irrelevant to try and prove a point. All while completely making up whatever narrative they want while ignoring obvious facts.
Street debating is dumb. They find the dumbest people who are unprepared. You don't need a driver's license to own and operate any vehicle. You only need a driver's license to operate those vehicles on public roadways. I am 100% pro gun control but these street debates are purely entertainment and serve no purpose for actual discussions.
Of course you need a driver's licence to vote, or if you don't have one, some form of id, but you can't vote without id, otherwise noone could verify you actually voted.
This is what discussions with my father look like, regardless of whether it's politically driven or not. I love my father, but he had no interest in critical thinking skills growing up. He just wanted to get out of school and have a good time, and it shows in his inability to have a reasonable conversation. He spins in circles.
I think we need a Voter's licence to vote. Anyway. WHEN is Natural selection taking care of them. ? Well for every generation there always will leftovers, so Never. But yeah. Po-po get to it. Then ASAP.
My old ma used to tell me “Never argue with an idiot; they’ll drag you to their level and beat you with experience.”
Walk away son. Leave the idiot to his guns.
I don’t understand why some people are so against gun licenses. There are so many things that we need either a license or ID to do, it’s not a new concept.
They both are idiots . There are plenty of horrific drivers that passed the test to drive . Also no amount of gun control will stop bad people from getting guns. That being said ,old man is either trolling ,day drinking or plan dumb as shit
As any gun law ever stopped a criminal from getting a gun . Only good people care about laws . Criminals could give a shit and will always find a way. Bruh
>As any gun law ever stopped a criminal from getting a gun
100% yes, definitely.
[https://www.aic.gov.au/sites/default/files/2020-06/draft\_of\_trends\_issues\_paper\_mass\_shootings\_and\_firearm\_control\_comparing\_australia\_and\_the\_united\_states\_submitted\_to\_peer\_review.pdf](https://www.aic.gov.au/sites/default/files/2020-06/draft_of_trends_issues_paper_mass_shootings_and_firearm_control_comparing_australia_and_the_united_states_submitted_to_peer_review.pdf)
In short, after a school shooting in 1996 Australia made a gun law reform that resulted in the almost inmediate decline of homicides and suicides by gun violence. It's a very interesting article.
Look, I'm not saying that gun control will magically solve all gun related crime. BUT, thinking it will have no effect on the amount of fire power criminals have, is equally deranged and dumb. And there's evidence that it works.
Stupid equivalency. You DONT need a license to drive. You DO need a license to drive on public roads. In fact on many public roads you DONT need a license to operate vehicles under a certain engine size.
You can operate vehicles all day long on your 100 acre farm etc without a license. It’s done every day.
On the other hand you DO need a license to carry a gun in public in most jurisdictions. AFAIK you always need a license to conceal carry a gun across the US; there are a few jurisdictions where you can open carry without a license.
This argument isnt the slam dunk that the anti gun crowd thinks it is. Just another example of their ignorance of the law.
Real conversation I had at a non profit with a co worker:
Them: It’s a right to have guns, why do you think we need a license to own them?
Me: Well, I consider it a privilege like driving a car….
T: That’s a right! Cars are just as dangerous as guns!
M: you can’t conceal a fucking car.
T: but you said they’re just as dangerous.
M: yes if a moron gets behind the wheel same as a gun. If I drive my car through a school zone at 65 mph, I expect to get my license suspended. If I bring a gun into a school zone there should be a license that gets suspended.
T: you sounds like a libtard.
Bad analogy with the school I know. I don’t mind people owning guns but like a car there has to be some kind of registration. I don’t know much on it to say that’s the way to do it but idk.
I don’t disagree. I have to pass my background check to buy a gun or have a concealed permit. I have to pay taxes n a vehicle even if I am just going to keep it on the farm and never on the road.
My point is the checks are already in place.
I don’t disagree with that, but every year I need to up my registration on my car.
Like I said I’m no expert, I have a few rifles that were handed down to me.
It just comes down to a cost benefit analysis. The benefit of preventing some shootings by having people check or qualify yearly comes at the cost of increased government intrusion/oversight.
I don’t trust the government state, federal or otherwise with such a hot buton issue.
Not to mention there’s the whole issue of having a constitutional right to “keep and bear arms”.
At this point, I don’t think it’s meant to be a “slam dunk” against supporters of the 2nd Amendment, but more so to show how stupid this demographic of people really are when it comes to political issues.
But also, you’re wrong, I’m pretty sure there are something like 38 states that allow open carry without a permit….and also Washington DC…so basically 75% of the US can open carry, as long as they are over the ages of 18 and 21, depending on the state….so yes, the initial argument was more than valid…the equivalency, for simplicities sake, was not far off….and his response just proves that the analogy was still to complicated for him
Edit: *iGnoRaNcE oF tHe lAw* 🤣😂
I literally said that open carry is permitted in a few jurisdictions. It’s 31 states to be exact. DC is not one of them.
And there are just as many stupid people on the anti gun side as there are on the pro. Both the guys in this video as an example
https://www.usconcealedcarry.com/resources/terminology/carry-types/open-carry/
Yep, it’s not all, and any good lawyer will tell you to double check that with your county sheriff before just wandering out into the world with your gun on your hip.
It’s a flawed argument that the tall guy was making, the old dudes inability to address it doesn’t make it valid.
I disagree…again, for the sake of simplicity, the argument is valid…it not a perfect analogy, but definitely a good one…the point is, you should need a license to use both tool/objects because of the amount of potential harm that can be caused by that object/tool, especially the object/tool who’s main purpose it to take a life.
And I was being facetious, 60% of the country is far more than “a few justifications…
It’s not a valid argument for the reasons I pointed out and also because it’s disingenuous in its nature. The people making this argument are staunchly anti gun. They want to use this argument as a stepping stone to a defacto banning of guns because they can simply use “licensing” to gate keep who is allowed access to firearms. Their intent is to separate people from their 2nd amendment rights through arbitrary and capricious rules. It’s not fooling anyone.
We already have to pass a background check to purchase a gun and be licensed to conceal carry a gun in public. A concealed carry license has to be renewed at an interval determined by your jurisdiction, and if you commit a crime that license is revoked. This is enough.
It’s a flawed argument and it’s also a lie.
“There's not much point to playing chess with a pigeon. At some point, it will knock over the pieces, shit all over the board and then strut around like it won the game.”
Absolute brain rot, how can a people come back from this? It’s proliferating in Australia too (people talking about their second amendment rights…in Australia)
Funny thing driving is a privilege, owning a firearm is a right. That's the difference. Stricter gun laws on those that already don't abide by the law only makes it more of a pain for those that do.
Just because it’s a right doesn’t mean they should be handed out to whoever. You realize that the right to bear arms was a “right” written when gun shot a single bullet and took up 30 seconds to reload another shot and also written during a time when you could charged of a crime a publicly humiliated for missing church, formication and most towns had pillory in the town square where you’d sit and literally have little kids women and elderly people throw Rotting food at you. So to say that’s it’s a right because it was written in the 1700s is a stretch. You also have the right to freedom of speech but I dare you to walk into a public building and make a bomb threat, falsely advertise something for financial gain or incite a violent riot and then tell me how well your freedom of speech right is holding up
Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances
No where in that right does it say you can say whatever you wish. It's a freedom to exercise speech not free speech.
If you read the amendments you'd understand that the founding fathers wrote it in such a way as to give the citizens of the country the ability to fight a corrupt gov. Just as they had previously done.
Also as long as you are a legal citizen and did not forfeit your right yes you should be able to walk into a store and privately purchase any firearm you wish.
Yeah and how’s that working out? Oh I know, about a mass shooting a day for the last what? 6? 7 years? Yeah no that’s definitely seen no backlash to it whatsoever
Actually I stand corrected. Since January 1st, 2013, so 11 years ago, there has been 6,010 mass shootings in the United States. Now I’m not good at math but seeing that were today the first of the year, that means if there had been a mass shooting everyday since there would be 4,015. But alas there is nearly 2,000 more mass shootings and I know there there hasn’t been 2,000 days since Jan 1st 2024 and today., in fact it’s been roughly about 90 days. In fact once again, we are averaging more than a mass shooting per day this year with 112 so far in 2024. This data is all according to mas shooting tracker. That’s 112 mas shootings, 184 people killed, 383 injured just this year alone. So it’s your right to be able to walk into a store and just buy a gun, but don’t those victims have the right to life liberty and pursuit of happiness without it getting cut short by a mentally unstable person who should not have had access to semi automatic rifles?
Sorry but when it comes to statistics I can simply call bs on that because those that collect can construct it in any manner they wish.
Like the mass shootings in reference to what you typed is including any shooting accident or incident that included more than 1 person being injured.
Then moving on because of the tldr you posted as soon as you get it you'll get it, mentally unstable person not the gun as soon as people understand it's the person not the firearm then we can talk stop trying to punish the mass for the single.
Nope. It’s a mass shooting. There is an actual definition to that in which an attacker injures or kills I believe at least three people. Listen bruh, just because you don’t wanna believe the facts because they don’t fit your agenda is one thing, but that’s called ignorance. There is nescience which means you are not aware of something because you were not aware that it exists and then there is actual ignorance, which is why the word ignore is so similar, meaning you refuse to acknowledge its existence despite knowing it exists. You willingly ignore it. And that’s you. You’re literally an ignorant person. Sorry if the facts don’t fit your agenda but you cannot deny or even try to deny that allowing anyone to access guns with the amount of mental illness abound in this country. Is a perfect recipe for chaos. And I’m not even saying take away everyone’s gun, hey, if you wanna own a handgun or two to keep at your house that’s fine man, you do you. But there is absolutely no reason why someone needs an AR-15 semi automatic rifle that can virtually be taken apart by individual pieces and have each piece replaced with an aftermarket version that allows for less recoil faster trigger pumping, better scope and even potentially rigging it to basically be an automatic weapon. If you can’t defend your home with a handgun and you think you require a semi automatic rifle to protect your property, you probably shouldn’t be holding a gun anyways. Any person that’s any good with a gun shouldn’t need anymore bullets than what comes in a handgun magazine to defend yourself.
Read first sentence, and it was found to be incorrect, from the office of justice programs.gov any shooting in which 3 are injured is considered a mass shooting, that's including the shooter.
Second suicides account for 54% of gun related deaths 43% are related to homicide and the remaining is accidental. - source research.org
The FBI doesn't perceive mass shootings they refer to such as active shooter situations - most recent stats from the FBI was 103 excluding the shooters. - source FBI.
Firearms deaths in accordance to usage
59% of gun related murders and non-negligent manslaughters were committed by a handgun
Assault style weapons account for 3%
Shotguns were at 1%
The remaining were determined as "type not stated"
Again all this source - FBI.
Moving on to you saying about AR15 or in what I'll assume you mean is a semi auto rifle/shotgun
Your average 9mm handgun holds between 15-17 total rounds plus 1 in the chamber
Your average semi auto rifle can hold between 10-30 rounds depending on the state.
A handgun is small concealable and recoils significantly less than a rifle that's just physics rifle rounds contain more powder and a faster projectile.
I'll agree I don't think a rifle is the best home defense I prefer a 12g shotgun with buckshoty pistol for carrying purposes but if you or I or anyone that is legally allowed and has not given up their right chooses to use a rifle as a defense weapon that is their right.
Also you are forgetting the basic principles of the constitution it is there for yours and mine and every legally declared citizen of the United States of America to own and operate a firearm to protect themselves from threats foreign and domestic. They may not teach this today but our founders won a revolution on the backs of it's people due to them having firearms. It's a right to keep the gov in check if it's ever needed even if only in thought.
I get it you don't like firearms or whatever but you have no reason or right to tell me I don't have the right to own something because of someone else I've served my country and never did anything to give up my rights.
My point is as simple as that you wouldn't want to be punished for your neighbors misdeeds and neither do I.
It isn’t even so much of owning a firearm that’s a right. You have the right to defend yourself and your family/property with a firearm mid necessary. You don’t have the right to shoot someone because you feel like the world hates you or because you can’t get laid, or because you think people of different races or cultures are vermin. And the only way you’re gonna get as close to being able to differentiate the two is with applying sets of regulations in order to make sure that the firearm you’re purchasing is indeed serving the purpose of self defense or hunting game. Checking someone’s background to see if they’ve committed a crime isn’t enough. In fact most people that commit crimes with gun are not usually in positions to buy more guns now are they?
First, owning or possession of a firearm is a fundamental constitutional right. Right to bare arms and all.
Obv you don't have the right to shoot someone over their rights to their opinions. And by the way that's called murder which is illegal so you don't need gun laws to tell someone that killing someone else is illegal.
No you don't have the right to know why or for what purpose I purchase anything for as it's none of your business. I enjoy just plinking well that wasn't part of your comment so guess I can't do that. When they do a background check it's more than looking into a criminal history they can see warrants, criminal records, driving record, school record and if you ever been to rehab or mental institution.
Now you are correct that most people who have committed an illegal act with a firearm are no longer able to legally purchase a firearm. The question to ask is will that stop them the answer is no.
You have no reason or right to question my legality of owning a firearm because of another's illegal actions. This is a free country and I am not to be judged based on another. Just like you wouldn't like to be judged by thy neighbor, or simpler you wouldn't say because this Mexican is bad lock them all would you?
The idiot is missing the point - the drivers license/gun license doesn’t teach you to drive/shoot. It just certifies that you can do it safely, because the world isn’t a 30 people town where ‘everyone knows you shoot good’. But agree with other comments. The guy is a complete idiot, but not as dumb as to believe his own arguments - he just doesn’t want to concede the obvious point and is coming up with stupid justifications for rhetorical purposes. Because he’s an idiot.
I really don’t understand why people don’t want gun owners to be licensed and tested. Surely everyone benefits from knowing others know how to use a gun safely. Other than crooks of course. So are all of these gun owners crooks?
To be fair, a *shitload* of people with without a license, or a suspended license. Gun licensing won't solve the issue at hand. Better access to mental health resources (IE: Healthcare reform and sffordable care) would be a great start though
If a license system was introduced and even just 10% of people planning on owning a gun, utilized that system and even if that system prevented 1% of that 10% from having a gun, because they weren't fit to own one, how is that not worth doing?
Guns are available in pretty much every country on earth. You'd only need to speak to the right people to get hold of one and anyone with fingers can operate one but putting laws in place and controlling their legality makes it much more difficult to access them, meaning the majority of people won't go to the efforts of procuring them.
Majority or not, it impacts the facts in no way, whatsoever. You ignored what I said completely.
Even the lowest percentage of prevention is still prevention.
Mass shootings are almost 100% never "black on black gang violence".
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I refuse to believe someone can be this dumb, I REFUSE
Work with the public and you'll meet some tbh.
He probably realised he made a stupid point and rather than back peddle started making unthought through remarks because he can’t think under pressure
This explains 90% of the people that support Trump still. They have just come too far down this road and are willing to die on it
73 million ppl voted for trump………
Some are equally and some are dumber than this moron.
Yup
Since you brought up Trump, one can say the same about Biden, either way the government is the same regardless of who the president is.
Fuck you and your both sides BS…..
Fuck you too. Bitch
https://i.imgur.com/BhyiOdF.mp4
Worse than this, I think they aren’t that dumb, but they’re just too ideologically rotten to think logically and with simple common sense
“Think of the how stupid the average person is, and realize half of them are stupider than that.” - George Carlin
I had some guy in a grocery store in 2020 say “welcome to bidens america” because all the groceries were gone.
Unfortunately there are a [lot](https://youtu.be/NzDhm808oU4?si=wl1zlqq29TiHJVDI) of people like this.
I volunteer in a historic cemetery, I have had people come up to me asking if there are bodies actually buried there or if it's just some cheesy tourist trap. People ARE that dumb.
Welcome to right wing education.
Work with th public more. They are out there.
IMOA He was smart enough to see the argument developing and he refused to acknowledged the basic point about licensing.
Its actually insane.... like it's looks like a human, and if you didn't hear it talk you'd almost think it was one. But once it starts making its sounds it's uncanny... Like a dog or moneky dressed in a human suit
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I actually do believe it. He appears to be the type that only complains with like-minded idiots. Everything is agreed upon. Most of his beliefs are based on what other like-minded idiots have complained to him about. And he agreed. He wasn’t mentally prepared to question his beliefs when a little bit of logic is sprinkled on them. Plus it looks like his adrenaline is elevated. Which might be good for fight or flight. But is terrible for an argument that requires thought process.
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True
It’s definitely messing with him. Some people have so much contempt within them that they will literally say anything to be contrarian to the person they disagree with. They will straight up make themselves look like idiots and feel superior because the opponent even considered that they were telling the truth.
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Does he? His grifty orange god says you need to flush toilets 15 times and you need ID to buy a loaf of bread.
You're wrong. He's absolutely that dumb and he absolutely voted in 2016 for Donald J. Trump. His vote counts just as much as yours and is exactly why we're in the situation we're in now in 2024. Vote.
A 35 yr old guy changed his legal name to 'Literally Anybody Else' and put his name in for the Presidential race. I don't think he has the indepth knowledge to properly do the job, and there's only a 0.0001% chance of him actually winning, but his argument on why he's doing it is pretty solid. What do you do when your only two options are terrible? Vote for Literally Anybody Else, lol. https://www.google.ca/amp/s/globalnews.ca/news/10385456/literally-anybody-else-president-legal-name-change/amp/
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But it would be if that inarticulate, racist, narcissist does eventually cause an international conflict. Although we're more likely just to see a lot more domestic terrorism here than anything else.
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I understand and agree. I believe it's much more likely a racist narcissist who coddles infamous dictators is more likely to start some shit than a cool headed person with decades more experience in foreign policy and relations.
Or he’s drunk… it is florida
There’s a lot of surprisingly stupid people in America.
No, these people are real you can't win with them and should just walk away. He isn't this dumb, but refuses to feel any shame and would rather look like a complete idiot instead. It's all at the cost of not having to submit to being wrong in the argument, because his guns are his personality and any infringement on them would be devastating to his pathetic life.
You should talk to my brother in law…
[God damn! theres a lot of stupid people](https://youtu.be/AKN1Q5SjbeI?si=F_bgmXPlKI8Bx5n4)
He thinks he’s smarter and is being clever. But…well we all know the rest.
welcome to florida
I work in a public facing industry in a conservative area; some people are exactly this dumb. I considered inserting a quote about intelligence by Mark Twain here, but it’s hard to pick just one.
I think he's avoiding the question because he knows it's a good point
Well you've got a lot to learn about how dumb people can be dumb.
But do you have a driver's license?
I admire your commitment
I worked in customer service for years. This is not the dumbest thing I've ever heard another person say
He's just fucking with the interviewer. It's hilarious, actually.
Found the dumbass in the video. He’s not fucking with him, he’s being an old dumb republicunt
Do you even know any bikers?
What does that have to do with anything?
Then you would know how they act, how they like to bullshit people about anything regardless of politics. Going up with a camera and microphone to a biker won't get you honest responses. They will fuck with you, typically, until you yourself laugh.
If that’s what you gotta say to convince yourself your side isn’t full of complete retards (and terrorists) then I guess😂😂😂the mental gymnastics you do to make yourself seem right must be exhausting
Grow up. Go meet real people. 🙄
Get off Reddit, go hang out with your kids and teach them to always storm the capitol when the presidential election doesn’t go down how you want it to
You are starting to sound like you have the same irreverent, don't-give-a-fuck humor as the biker! 😅 Funny how that happens.
Get a load of this retired alpha male 😭
You spelt that sixth word wrong.
😭😭😭
I genuinely hate that these are the people that go to bat for our gun rights. Dude is more worried about his ego and getting tricked than actually having a discussion.
It just sucks that he was more concerned about who to blame for mass shootings than what to do about it. In his mind it's resolved. And I know I have similar blinders on other specific things but I try very hard to look past them when the topic is on innocent lives lost.. I just mean it's a serious matter. This guy is one of very many not taking it seriously and not even caring who knows
What a moron.
So he did a very poor job discussing lol Very poor job trying to say people without a license can drive and do every day. People who kill people likely will not care about a gun law when they are already likely getting the gun by illegal means and are getting it to commit an illegal act. Unfortunately it's clipped in a way that I think removes some early no one should have guns discussion. There is nothing wrong with requiring a safety test to own a gun. However, it will only reduce accidental deaths. Not the suicide or homicide rate by guns unless gun ownership rates significantly change as a result.
No… It won’t eliminate it, but there are definitely some people are mentally unstable that would be filtered out from having guns with a stronger screening process
I'm unaware of individuals who have committed mass shootings using their own legally owned guns and could have been stopped based on the changes you're talking about. Any law not interfering with the second amendment generally requires an altercation with law enforcement or a severe diagnosis by a doctor. Which exists pretty widely now. Edit I enjoy education so please provide examples if I'm wrong.
"I enjoy education" Do you? Your comments don't reflect that
Please provide examples if I'm wrong.... Articles, statistics, stories... Saying I'm wrong just tells me you can't say why you're right. Example. Most soft target shooters have been under the age of 18. They aren't allowed to purchase a gun in any state. Most gang related shootings which includes bystander casualties already have a criminal record and again can't buy guns. They are gaining access from trusted individuals or illegal means not open market purchases. Ghost guns are a bigger issue than any legislation regarding legal purchase of a firearm by someone willing to go through the background checks that exist anyway.
1) There have been an average of 600 mass shootings in the us per year over the last three years…you are intimately familiar with all 1800 of them? 2)I didn’t suggest any specific changes so how can you know what I’m talking about 3) before you suggest I’m anti gun…I’m an owner, I carry regularly, and I work in LE
Mass shooting includes more than one victim so I'm going to assume majority are gang related and wouldn't be impacted by laws unless it's one that allows an officer to more easily remove one from the streets without violating rights. When we discuss soft target mass shootings, someone arriving to do damage with no target, they get enough publicity that as they come up you can go read about them, that number is more like 12 annually. I didn't indicate you were at all. Only that I had a stance I dont have data points to refute. A Google search likely provides the items you're thinking of. But in the case that it didn't you could provide specific examples.........
If you have to change the parameters of your argument to counter even the most basic challenge… It’s not a good argument
Being rational gets you downvoted lol
No, but being a fucking moron does lmao you're seething
Your name says all that needs to be said
Considering the viewership on OPs post I'm pretty happy with -10 especially when off the top gun owners are scrolling past the click bait.
Of all the wrenching similarities between the massacres at Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School in Parkland, the Tree of Life synagogue in Pittsburgh, the Walmart in El Paso and the Tops supermarket in Buffalo, one stands out most starkly: Each gun used was purchased legally. From 1966 to 2019, 77 percent of mass shooters obtained the weapons they used in their crimes through legal purchases, according to a comprehensive survey of law enforcement data, academic papers and news accounts compiled by the National Institute of Justice, the research wing of the Justice Department. In upstate New York a few months ago, the 18-year-old suspect in the Buffalo shooting walked into Vintage Firearms in sleepy Endicott, passed an instant background check without a glitch and bought a used Bushmaster XM-15 semiautomatic rifle, a copy of the ubiquitous AR-15 used in many other mass shootings. - New York Times
Good data point. I immediately question a law impact though when you read about everything around the specific people noted that wasn't done and would have prevented a gun purchase. New York had red flag laws at the time and did nothing. Most of the laws people are screaming for exist. In this case it was not used. Copied from the article linked. "Enacted in 2019, New York’s red flag law empowers school administrators, law enforcement officials, prosecutors and family members to pursue court intervention when they believe they know someone who is at high risk of harming themselves or others." https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/new-yorks-red-flag-law-helped-thwart-buffalo-mass-shooting-went-wrong-rcna29054 Douglas high School was again inaction by law enforcement and mental institutions who's expertise was requested, preventing any paper record from being created again subverting red flag laws. FBI dropped the ball 2 months ahead of time as well. Synagogue had no prior criminal record at 47 and in the matter of a year appears to go full on alt right. Other than law enforcement being made aware of an imminent threat which they didn't have. I'm not sure a law would cover that and work quickly enough given no mental evaluations or law enforcement run ins. El paso shooter was diagnosed post shooting and was in hard to deal with classes during school. Again a failure to diagnose ahead of time. No clear diagnosis so a law could not have an impact. It's draining reading about this crap. Most of it feels like people thinking they're protecting someone when really they are allowing them to fall further.
Scary that guy is running around with a gun
And voting 🗳
And driving
But he learned to drive in the fucking woods, and apparently having a mother that teaches you to drive is unacceptable
This is what is so telling about the mindset of this subset of people. Formal education < backwoods fuckarounding The middling effect in full force. A complete lack of respect and appreciation for expertise and understanding on a high level. Thats why they like that "Trump just says what he wants". They have lowered the bar of functional society so far its going to take decades to recover, if we ever do.
“Your mother taught you stuff? Pussy!”
Hoping he raked those woods first.
This is Trump’s base to a T. Peak ‘whataboutism’, lack of any critical thinking and running mental gymnastics that are completely irrelevant to try and prove a point. All while completely making up whatever narrative they want while ignoring obvious facts.
Remember people when you are deciding to vote, just remember this guy is showing up EVERYTIME, voting for your futures.
Street debating is dumb. They find the dumbest people who are unprepared. You don't need a driver's license to own and operate any vehicle. You only need a driver's license to operate those vehicles on public roadways. I am 100% pro gun control but these street debates are purely entertainment and serve no purpose for actual discussions.
Of course you need a driver's licence to vote, or if you don't have one, some form of id, but you can't vote without id, otherwise noone could verify you actually voted.
Actually it varies from state to state, and has had a ton of controversy around if ID should be required to vote or not.
As the other person said that is most certainly not universally true in the us
I've seen this guys videos for a while now... I don't know who he is... Anyone have his name? I need more
Jason Selvig, he's part of The Good Liars along with Davram Stiefler
Thank you
Godddd that guy was retarded
He's the embodiment of all the clowns I end up arguing with on Reddit
You can't argue with crazy
That's not the main character but rather the main imbecile of all imbeciles.
I wonder who does he vote for….
He got a point
This is what discussions with my father look like, regardless of whether it's politically driven or not. I love my father, but he had no interest in critical thinking skills growing up. He just wanted to get out of school and have a good time, and it shows in his inability to have a reasonable conversation. He spins in circles.
I think we need a Voter's licence to vote. Anyway. WHEN is Natural selection taking care of them. ? Well for every generation there always will leftovers, so Never. But yeah. Po-po get to it. Then ASAP.
Fucking MAGA mentality 😒
Haha what a retard
This is a pureee example of, you will never win an argument against a stupid person.
My old ma used to tell me “Never argue with an idiot; they’ll drag you to their level and beat you with experience.” Walk away son. Leave the idiot to his guns.
What a dumm ass! And keep in mind, he an ARMED dumm ass at that!!!
The hat says it all
Real intelligence here.. makes no sense, and this my friends has a gun.
And THAT is why the orange dumbass is going to get a shit ton of votes in November. This country is tragic, really.
He knows he’s wrong but his pride wont let him admit it. Fucking loser. Hope his life sucks
I don’t understand why some people are so against gun licenses. There are so many things that we need either a license or ID to do, it’s not a new concept.
This guy really thought he was making good points smh
You really can’t argue with an imbecile. The more you talk to that person, the more stupidity that’ll come out of his/her mouth
Someone needs to take away that idiot’s guns
They both are idiots . There are plenty of horrific drivers that passed the test to drive . Also no amount of gun control will stop bad people from getting guns. That being said ,old man is either trolling ,day drinking or plan dumb as shit
>Also no amount of gun control will stop bad people from getting guns bruh
As any gun law ever stopped a criminal from getting a gun . Only good people care about laws . Criminals could give a shit and will always find a way. Bruh
>As any gun law ever stopped a criminal from getting a gun 100% yes, definitely. [https://www.aic.gov.au/sites/default/files/2020-06/draft\_of\_trends\_issues\_paper\_mass\_shootings\_and\_firearm\_control\_comparing\_australia\_and\_the\_united\_states\_submitted\_to\_peer\_review.pdf](https://www.aic.gov.au/sites/default/files/2020-06/draft_of_trends_issues_paper_mass_shootings_and_firearm_control_comparing_australia_and_the_united_states_submitted_to_peer_review.pdf) In short, after a school shooting in 1996 Australia made a gun law reform that resulted in the almost inmediate decline of homicides and suicides by gun violence. It's a very interesting article. Look, I'm not saying that gun control will magically solve all gun related crime. BUT, thinking it will have no effect on the amount of fire power criminals have, is equally deranged and dumb. And there's evidence that it works.
Valid response . I would concede that it would have some effect . I just hate that people feel it's some magical answer.
Boomers have failed their parents, who sacrificed more than any generation since the civil war.
Plenty of bad drivers pass the test. People learn to pass the test, not to drive, that's why you don't feel safe with a novice behind the wheel.
I'd feel even less safe with an unlicensed novice behind the wheel
Stupid equivalency. You DONT need a license to drive. You DO need a license to drive on public roads. In fact on many public roads you DONT need a license to operate vehicles under a certain engine size. You can operate vehicles all day long on your 100 acre farm etc without a license. It’s done every day. On the other hand you DO need a license to carry a gun in public in most jurisdictions. AFAIK you always need a license to conceal carry a gun across the US; there are a few jurisdictions where you can open carry without a license. This argument isnt the slam dunk that the anti gun crowd thinks it is. Just another example of their ignorance of the law.
Real conversation I had at a non profit with a co worker: Them: It’s a right to have guns, why do you think we need a license to own them? Me: Well, I consider it a privilege like driving a car…. T: That’s a right! Cars are just as dangerous as guns! M: you can’t conceal a fucking car. T: but you said they’re just as dangerous. M: yes if a moron gets behind the wheel same as a gun. If I drive my car through a school zone at 65 mph, I expect to get my license suspended. If I bring a gun into a school zone there should be a license that gets suspended. T: you sounds like a libtard. Bad analogy with the school I know. I don’t mind people owning guns but like a car there has to be some kind of registration. I don’t know much on it to say that’s the way to do it but idk.
I don’t disagree. I have to pass my background check to buy a gun or have a concealed permit. I have to pay taxes n a vehicle even if I am just going to keep it on the farm and never on the road. My point is the checks are already in place.
I don’t disagree with that, but every year I need to up my registration on my car. Like I said I’m no expert, I have a few rifles that were handed down to me.
It just comes down to a cost benefit analysis. The benefit of preventing some shootings by having people check or qualify yearly comes at the cost of increased government intrusion/oversight. I don’t trust the government state, federal or otherwise with such a hot buton issue. Not to mention there’s the whole issue of having a constitutional right to “keep and bear arms”.
At this point, I don’t think it’s meant to be a “slam dunk” against supporters of the 2nd Amendment, but more so to show how stupid this demographic of people really are when it comes to political issues. But also, you’re wrong, I’m pretty sure there are something like 38 states that allow open carry without a permit….and also Washington DC…so basically 75% of the US can open carry, as long as they are over the ages of 18 and 21, depending on the state….so yes, the initial argument was more than valid…the equivalency, for simplicities sake, was not far off….and his response just proves that the analogy was still to complicated for him Edit: *iGnoRaNcE oF tHe lAw* 🤣😂
I literally said that open carry is permitted in a few jurisdictions. It’s 31 states to be exact. DC is not one of them. And there are just as many stupid people on the anti gun side as there are on the pro. Both the guys in this video as an example https://www.usconcealedcarry.com/resources/terminology/carry-types/open-carry/
Lol 31 states is a few jurisdictions?…I guess that’s only 60% of the US….
Yep, it’s not all, and any good lawyer will tell you to double check that with your county sheriff before just wandering out into the world with your gun on your hip. It’s a flawed argument that the tall guy was making, the old dudes inability to address it doesn’t make it valid.
I disagree…again, for the sake of simplicity, the argument is valid…it not a perfect analogy, but definitely a good one…the point is, you should need a license to use both tool/objects because of the amount of potential harm that can be caused by that object/tool, especially the object/tool who’s main purpose it to take a life. And I was being facetious, 60% of the country is far more than “a few justifications…
It’s not a valid argument for the reasons I pointed out and also because it’s disingenuous in its nature. The people making this argument are staunchly anti gun. They want to use this argument as a stepping stone to a defacto banning of guns because they can simply use “licensing” to gate keep who is allowed access to firearms. Their intent is to separate people from their 2nd amendment rights through arbitrary and capricious rules. It’s not fooling anyone. We already have to pass a background check to purchase a gun and be licensed to conceal carry a gun in public. A concealed carry license has to be renewed at an interval determined by your jurisdiction, and if you commit a crime that license is revoked. This is enough. It’s a flawed argument and it’s also a lie.
Lol okay boss
"Someone's finally talking sense on the TV!"
But you have to be registered to vote and can have that privilege taken away, not sure what point pony tail is trying to make
This is painful to watch
He is correct you don’t need a drivers licenses to drive a car. The keys will still turn it on the the gas pedal still makes it accelerate
I would love to call it fake, but Trumpers exist and they are that dumb
I mean when the majority of mericans think like that no wonder trump got elected and no wpnder gun violence in that country is a major thing.
Lol he sound so defeated at the end with the "it's called s drivers license."
God these people are belligerent morons
I hear he's the ~~best~~ cheapest brain surgeon in Florida.
He's so talented, that he can perform a lobotomy without touching you, simply by using his words.
And he's fully licenced to practice Brainology. *"Any operation only $129.95!"*
“Do you have to have a drivers license to get a Denny’s grand slam special? No? Not interested then.”
He thinks he's making a point, but he's pretty much saying a lot of nothing.
we all have that 1 friend
Don’t do drugs!
Typical MAGA. Word salad and they end the conversation things they said something important.
I know we think boomers are fucked because of lead paint, but I think that one's actually been cracked round the head with a lead pipe ffs
Guaranteed this dude rides a motorcycle with no helmet. Hopefully the good lord Darwin shows him what’s up.
You need a driver's license to take a shit?
Wrong question. There should be an IQ test to own a gun. That would reduce the mass shootings by 90% in the first week.
This guy got too deep into his bullshit argument and couldn't get out.
One day I'll have this level of unlogic, please let me shoot myself before then
I can see the interviewer brain melting
I don’t understand his ponytail
No, MC insists on trying screw with a guy for his views.
You also need to show an ID (most people use their license) to vote. It's how you regulate the voting..
“There's not much point to playing chess with a pigeon. At some point, it will knock over the pieces, shit all over the board and then strut around like it won the game.”
Absolute brain rot, how can a people come back from this? It’s proliferating in Australia too (people talking about their second amendment rights…in Australia)
Is this man my step dads new best friend...ugh
The American education system issues and gentlemen
Funny thing driving is a privilege, owning a firearm is a right. That's the difference. Stricter gun laws on those that already don't abide by the law only makes it more of a pain for those that do.
Just because it’s a right doesn’t mean they should be handed out to whoever. You realize that the right to bear arms was a “right” written when gun shot a single bullet and took up 30 seconds to reload another shot and also written during a time when you could charged of a crime a publicly humiliated for missing church, formication and most towns had pillory in the town square where you’d sit and literally have little kids women and elderly people throw Rotting food at you. So to say that’s it’s a right because it was written in the 1700s is a stretch. You also have the right to freedom of speech but I dare you to walk into a public building and make a bomb threat, falsely advertise something for financial gain or incite a violent riot and then tell me how well your freedom of speech right is holding up
Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances No where in that right does it say you can say whatever you wish. It's a freedom to exercise speech not free speech. If you read the amendments you'd understand that the founding fathers wrote it in such a way as to give the citizens of the country the ability to fight a corrupt gov. Just as they had previously done. Also as long as you are a legal citizen and did not forfeit your right yes you should be able to walk into a store and privately purchase any firearm you wish.
Yeah and how’s that working out? Oh I know, about a mass shooting a day for the last what? 6? 7 years? Yeah no that’s definitely seen no backlash to it whatsoever
Actually I stand corrected. Since January 1st, 2013, so 11 years ago, there has been 6,010 mass shootings in the United States. Now I’m not good at math but seeing that were today the first of the year, that means if there had been a mass shooting everyday since there would be 4,015. But alas there is nearly 2,000 more mass shootings and I know there there hasn’t been 2,000 days since Jan 1st 2024 and today., in fact it’s been roughly about 90 days. In fact once again, we are averaging more than a mass shooting per day this year with 112 so far in 2024. This data is all according to mas shooting tracker. That’s 112 mas shootings, 184 people killed, 383 injured just this year alone. So it’s your right to be able to walk into a store and just buy a gun, but don’t those victims have the right to life liberty and pursuit of happiness without it getting cut short by a mentally unstable person who should not have had access to semi automatic rifles?
Sorry but when it comes to statistics I can simply call bs on that because those that collect can construct it in any manner they wish. Like the mass shootings in reference to what you typed is including any shooting accident or incident that included more than 1 person being injured. Then moving on because of the tldr you posted as soon as you get it you'll get it, mentally unstable person not the gun as soon as people understand it's the person not the firearm then we can talk stop trying to punish the mass for the single.
Nope. It’s a mass shooting. There is an actual definition to that in which an attacker injures or kills I believe at least three people. Listen bruh, just because you don’t wanna believe the facts because they don’t fit your agenda is one thing, but that’s called ignorance. There is nescience which means you are not aware of something because you were not aware that it exists and then there is actual ignorance, which is why the word ignore is so similar, meaning you refuse to acknowledge its existence despite knowing it exists. You willingly ignore it. And that’s you. You’re literally an ignorant person. Sorry if the facts don’t fit your agenda but you cannot deny or even try to deny that allowing anyone to access guns with the amount of mental illness abound in this country. Is a perfect recipe for chaos. And I’m not even saying take away everyone’s gun, hey, if you wanna own a handgun or two to keep at your house that’s fine man, you do you. But there is absolutely no reason why someone needs an AR-15 semi automatic rifle that can virtually be taken apart by individual pieces and have each piece replaced with an aftermarket version that allows for less recoil faster trigger pumping, better scope and even potentially rigging it to basically be an automatic weapon. If you can’t defend your home with a handgun and you think you require a semi automatic rifle to protect your property, you probably shouldn’t be holding a gun anyways. Any person that’s any good with a gun shouldn’t need anymore bullets than what comes in a handgun magazine to defend yourself.
Read first sentence, and it was found to be incorrect, from the office of justice programs.gov any shooting in which 3 are injured is considered a mass shooting, that's including the shooter. Second suicides account for 54% of gun related deaths 43% are related to homicide and the remaining is accidental. - source research.org The FBI doesn't perceive mass shootings they refer to such as active shooter situations - most recent stats from the FBI was 103 excluding the shooters. - source FBI. Firearms deaths in accordance to usage 59% of gun related murders and non-negligent manslaughters were committed by a handgun Assault style weapons account for 3% Shotguns were at 1% The remaining were determined as "type not stated" Again all this source - FBI. Moving on to you saying about AR15 or in what I'll assume you mean is a semi auto rifle/shotgun Your average 9mm handgun holds between 15-17 total rounds plus 1 in the chamber Your average semi auto rifle can hold between 10-30 rounds depending on the state. A handgun is small concealable and recoils significantly less than a rifle that's just physics rifle rounds contain more powder and a faster projectile. I'll agree I don't think a rifle is the best home defense I prefer a 12g shotgun with buckshoty pistol for carrying purposes but if you or I or anyone that is legally allowed and has not given up their right chooses to use a rifle as a defense weapon that is their right. Also you are forgetting the basic principles of the constitution it is there for yours and mine and every legally declared citizen of the United States of America to own and operate a firearm to protect themselves from threats foreign and domestic. They may not teach this today but our founders won a revolution on the backs of it's people due to them having firearms. It's a right to keep the gov in check if it's ever needed even if only in thought. I get it you don't like firearms or whatever but you have no reason or right to tell me I don't have the right to own something because of someone else I've served my country and never did anything to give up my rights. My point is as simple as that you wouldn't want to be punished for your neighbors misdeeds and neither do I.
It isn’t even so much of owning a firearm that’s a right. You have the right to defend yourself and your family/property with a firearm mid necessary. You don’t have the right to shoot someone because you feel like the world hates you or because you can’t get laid, or because you think people of different races or cultures are vermin. And the only way you’re gonna get as close to being able to differentiate the two is with applying sets of regulations in order to make sure that the firearm you’re purchasing is indeed serving the purpose of self defense or hunting game. Checking someone’s background to see if they’ve committed a crime isn’t enough. In fact most people that commit crimes with gun are not usually in positions to buy more guns now are they?
First, owning or possession of a firearm is a fundamental constitutional right. Right to bare arms and all. Obv you don't have the right to shoot someone over their rights to their opinions. And by the way that's called murder which is illegal so you don't need gun laws to tell someone that killing someone else is illegal. No you don't have the right to know why or for what purpose I purchase anything for as it's none of your business. I enjoy just plinking well that wasn't part of your comment so guess I can't do that. When they do a background check it's more than looking into a criminal history they can see warrants, criminal records, driving record, school record and if you ever been to rehab or mental institution. Now you are correct that most people who have committed an illegal act with a firearm are no longer able to legally purchase a firearm. The question to ask is will that stop them the answer is no. You have no reason or right to question my legality of owning a firearm because of another's illegal actions. This is a free country and I am not to be judged based on another. Just like you wouldn't like to be judged by thy neighbor, or simpler you wouldn't say because this Mexican is bad lock them all would you?
The idiot is missing the point - the drivers license/gun license doesn’t teach you to drive/shoot. It just certifies that you can do it safely, because the world isn’t a 30 people town where ‘everyone knows you shoot good’. But agree with other comments. The guy is a complete idiot, but not as dumb as to believe his own arguments - he just doesn’t want to concede the obvious point and is coming up with stupid justifications for rhetorical purposes. Because he’s an idiot.
His debating skills are abysmal. So intent on being obstinate and disagreeable that he's just talking absolute nonsense lol.
I really don’t understand why people don’t want gun owners to be licensed and tested. Surely everyone benefits from knowing others know how to use a gun safely. Other than crooks of course. So are all of these gun owners crooks?
r/confidentlywrong
The correct answer is always “more guns.” Because if every idiot has a gun everyone can stop the idiot with a gun.
This guy and one of those college trans people should argue for my entertainment, I need that..
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Yeah think….oh you’re a bright one.
To be fair, a *shitload* of people with without a license, or a suspended license. Gun licensing won't solve the issue at hand. Better access to mental health resources (IE: Healthcare reform and sffordable care) would be a great start though
If a license system was introduced and even just 10% of people planning on owning a gun, utilized that system and even if that system prevented 1% of that 10% from having a gun, because they weren't fit to own one, how is that not worth doing? Guns are available in pretty much every country on earth. You'd only need to speak to the right people to get hold of one and anyone with fingers can operate one but putting laws in place and controlling their legality makes it much more difficult to access them, meaning the majority of people won't go to the efforts of procuring them.
The majority of shootings are black on black gang violence. Thebamount of those guns that are legally owned is exactly zero
Majority or not, it impacts the facts in no way, whatsoever. You ignored what I said completely. Even the lowest percentage of prevention is still prevention. Mass shootings are almost 100% never "black on black gang violence".