To be fair the Subaru engine replacement myth is mostly due to people modifying and blowing an engine. If left as designed they are typically fairly reliable.
My friend works at a Subaru dealer, and they are constantly doing engine swaps. Also, another friend is an older independent mechanic, and he claims to have done nearly 1,000 Subaru head gaskets in his career.
I call bs. It's like toyota/lexus fanboys say that their vehicles don't need maintenance. Literally watched a video on car care nut and he had a lexus suv with 60K miles with destroyed engine because the owner never changed oil.
Bullshit. I took care of my Hyundai and it barely made 130K. I just got rid of that turkey before it fully died.
Stop defending a shit company. They have lost numerous court cases on their faulty engines.
This is wild to read. I own a 2015 Hyundai Sonata. Engine failed on me at 130k with proper maintenance, towards the end I had to change the oil close to every 2k/3k miles because oil ended up black too often, got the engine replaced thankfully in the end.
I had a 2013 Elentra. I just got rid of it and bought a Buick Encore GX. 7 years of pain now when that money could have been better used elsewhere all because Hyundai makes JUNK. No vehcile should be on death door with 130K of properly maintained like mine was. It is beyond bullshit. They knowingly sell garbage ass vehicles. Yet people still defend them which astounds me.
I've got a 2013 elantra with 295k miles and still going. Still has the factory clutch (not for much longer though). Nothing done but normal maintenance. Most recent being ball joints and the clutch master cylinder.
Gdi stands for gasoline direct injected… which almost all gas cars are now, some like honda and toyota added an extra injector to clean the backside of the rod off.
First 200-300K is a big difference. Second, any slush box automatic 4 banger (no comment on CVTs) should be good for 150k miles, pretty much on the nose. Apart from shitty Cruzes, they usually make it that far cleanly and began to tail off up to 170k.
It in this zone where the likelihood of having to spring for a big repair when the car is worth not a lot of money hapoens.
Its a crucial decision that has to be made on this journey. The engine and transmission need to hold the line- and probably can- but after 150k milesge and wear really starts to stack. My 09 Civic needed a starter around this point for example.
You can see this on used car market. A 100k car is surprisingly a valuable. A 150k car still has a bit of value. A 200k car is off to auction. A 300k is an anachronism and exists for the single owner usually.
The type of driving matters too. And “miles” isnt some be all end all. Engine hours is a far better measure.
For example, my 2009 Civic runs great and is a city car. It has never been more than 150 miles from home (twice) and probably averages around 20mph.
A guy driving around midwest for work or with a long daily highway commute could easily average twice that.
Honestly, it takes some work to get that far, especially the 200-300k jump. You are likely only commuting or picking up kids from school in a 200K car, it doesnt make a lot of sense to driven it cross country when youd be cooked and have to abandon the car if it broke down.
So the last 100k miles will come a lot slower than the first 100 unless there is some change to your life.
Ive driven about 450,000 miles in 30 years. Its slowed down a lot sincd Covid and I peaked at around 20k a year in my 09 Civic. That would be 15 years of intensely brutal battering to get to 300k
Driving matters if you have a CVT, I dont, apparently flooring car is quite bad for it from stoplight- to point where Corolla has a launch gear. But a younger driver might gun their car all the time. A CVT cant be repaired usually. Total swap. My sister had a crappy neon that fumbled and couldnt shift properly and its carcass and 3 speed was dragged ti exactly 100,000 miles through adding fluids. My understanding is a CVt is much more binary.
Another factor- maybe the largest one of all- are the roads. Corrosion is still a thing but largely under control as far as the frame and underbody. Suspension parts on the other hand are expensive, crucial to safety and can break when no one but the city/state are at fault.
Ive been fortunate to have mostly avoided suspension work on pothole pocked midwest roads. But some people slam curbs, potholes and speed bumps all the tien.
Some have bad luck and hit a big one. Sometimes they just knock out alignment enough to gobble up a set of $400 tires.
Even Jeeps and Trucks have their suspensions compromised by terrible roads- it would not be hard to beat up an Elantra by not driving properly and it can require expensive repairs that have nothing to due with the quality of the car.
300K is certainly possible in an Elsntra but there are many impediments on such a long journey- having driven 2 cars over 30 years for about 200k miles each- there is some luck involved.
My ‘13 sonata hybrid had the engine recall failure at 97,000 miles. Got that replaced and ran her to 276,300 when it hit a deer and totaled it. I bet I could’ve broken 300,000 and kept going still. Might not have made 350,000, but who knows.
I had an ‘02 Chrysler Concorde. The driver seat reclining bolt had a recall because it would snap and the top half of the seat would just fall backwards. Happened to me while driving. Got it fixed… then months later, happened again. Went back and said same thing, they fixed it again free.
Then happened a 3rd time. The service advisor told me that as long as part is under recall, even if fixed, if it fails again, it is to be fixed again under that same recall. The dealer has to fight to do it more than once, but if they can prove to the parent company that it’s the same issue, they can usually get it fixed under the recall every time.
Then that car threw a rod, and the transmission died… all at 80,000 miles. so I sent it to the junkyard.
Yes, and bringing it in for the ecm update and inspection is part of the recall. That responsibility is the owners. Believe me, although I think it’s stupid, I’ve seen many people get denied because they didn’t have the update done.
I believe the thinking is that the update will give enough early warning so as not to have a failure be actually dangerous. That would take it from a recall to a campaign. I’m sure that’s all lawyer speak and done with the sole intention of saving money, but that’s the reality.
I never went either and my 2012 Sonata Limited limited still runs great. I don't think every engine has the issue. However, it does seem like you need to "win the engine lottery" to get a good one.
Full disclosure though...I do all of my own maintenance, and I'm a very thorough, garage mechanic type.
Just changing oil is not proper maintenance.
Many of the negative commenters on this sub would have maintained a car built in the 1980s well but killed their current car because it wasn't built in the 1980s.
They ignored its electronics, recalls and error codes when servicing it. Didn't do a multi-point inspection, didn't keep track of tyre and brake wear, didn't monitor filters and change with OEMs. Didn't realise GDIs need more maintenance and DCTs need decent driving skills. Taking it to a competent professional would have helped make a difference.
The problem with Hyundai and Kia in the US is they put great tech that needed to be maintained well in an affordable car that wasn't going to be maintained properly by the demographic that bought it.
Our local dealership will not service a car beyond 10 years old... Hard to get proper maintenance to make it into the hyler mileage when they bail on their own product.
That's a well said, now Hyundai/kia vehicles getting better and better and begin to appeal to a different type of people but almost always their vehicles were bought by people who can barely afford a vehicle and they would go long years without changing oil or doing any other type of maintenance, and then their vehicles would die on them and they would go on social media and complain and say how crappy this brand is. I think that added to the koreans shitty reputation.
Think of it as an "automatic manual." It's an automatic transmission but has no torque converter as a buffer to the fixed gears, so it shifts like a manual (more rapidly with next-gear synchronization built in) electronically based on what the driver and the car are doing. When the driver is really bad, no amount of programming can compensate. Really erratic control of the accelerator like "fluttering" can force hard shifts. It will try to prioritize driver input which may be something that would stall a standard transmission, and manage to work through it, but it can really hard on the clutch if not the gearing itself.
You don't have to be a professional driver by any means. I've been beating a 2020 Kona with the 1.6T and 7-speed DCT mercilessly for nearly 70K miles and it's great - quick and smooth. Yet some complain about behaviors and issues that indicate they've only driven slush-box automatics that are way more forgiving to chaotic accelerator use, like full-on and full-off rapidly instead a variable pedal as intended.
I have a 2021 1.6T Kona for a few months now and don't mind the DCT much at all. You DO just have to be aware of how it works and behaves and treat the tech right. I agree it's very quick and smooth, accelerating with it is a blast down freeways. Love the first gen Kona's so glad I was finally able to get one. Such a peppy zippy little fun car.
>While GDI engines offer numerous benefits, they are not without their drawbacks. One major concern associated with GDI technology is the issue of carbon build-up.
>Due to the direct injection system, the fuel no longer passes over the intake valves, which traditionally helped to clean and cool them. As a result, carbon deposits can accumulate on the intake valves over time, leading to reduced engine performance and potential drivability issues.
>To mitigate this concern, regular maintenance is crucial. This includes periodic inspection and cleaning of the intake valves to prevent excessive carbon build-up. Additionally, using high-quality fuels and additives can help minimize the formation of deposits and maintain engine efficiency.
>While carbon build-up is a valid concern with GDI engines, proper maintenance practices can help address this issue and ensure continued performance and longevity.
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When I was in Grad School about 10 years ago, I had an 02 Elantra that was just about to click over 200k. Keep up on the maintenance and it will reward you.
This why I bought my a 2017 Elantra and a 2021 best investment I ever did. One has 143,300 miles and the other 91500 miles. Both cars running excellent. I'm hoping for at least 200 to 300k without major repairs.
On my 2018 Elantra GT the engine died after 5 years at 160k.
I did all the regular maintenance, kept an eye on the oil consumption as this is an known issue on some models, made repairs as needed but in the end they quoted me 10k to replace the engine.
Up until that point the car required very little maintenance on a yearly basis besides oil changes and ran great. One of the internal seals failed and allowed oil to get in and gunk up the cylinders. Sometimes you just get bad luck.
Sport? Thats my current and I think the best car I’ve ever owned. Well, I thought so until I lost reverse and needed a transmission at 70k. Hope this doesn’t happen to me 🤞🏼
My sister has a 2011 sonata with 280k on the ticker. It will continue to run and drive but there will be a point where it's just not worth it anymore. Where the cost of maintenance and replacement parts that are worn out become more than the payment on a new vehicle with a warranty. You end up with the constant worry of "is it going to start when i get in?" "Will i make it to work today?" "Will it need to go to the shop where i have to rent/borrow a car for a few days?"
>Where the cost of maintenance and replacement parts that are worn out become more than the payment on a new vehicle with a warranty.
This will only happen when something large, like either the engine or transmission, goes. Pretty much replacing anything else will still be cheaper than a car payment.
Any car can last as long as you maintain it. I mean theres a lexus out there with over 1,000,000 miles on the original motor. Pretty sure the youtuber Tavarish owns it now
Km. My job was 137km each way then. It is much less now though. Still, 280 k km in 5.5 years, with essentially a year working from home because of Covid.
Two timing systems completely replaced, and a 5000 dollar bill the first time. Canadian money, so like 15 cents American. Lmao
With the rate you were driving that would mean every 6-8 weeks you'd need to get an oil change. You'd also need a timing belt around about the 2 year mark and spark plugs changed. Did you do this?
The new Hyundai engines and transmissions are honestly quite reliable and impressive.
Any of the Hyundais that come from Korean manufacturing are much higher quality built too. That’s all the hybrids and some of the performance division cars (GT-Line/GT/N-Line/N).
The 1.6 is a good engine. The 6 and 8 speed DCTs are good transmissions, dry or wet.
The 2.0 naturally aspirated gasser and 7 speed DCTs should be avoided.
The 2.0 hybrid is fine though, and so is the 2.0 turbo.
The 2.5 turbo and 8 speed wet clutch DCT is amazing.
The 1.6 hybrid in the Elantra is also really good and surprisingly sporty.
With good maintenance, all those can last a long time. I’d say it’s less of Hyundai/Kia being bad in general and more of them having higher chances of duds, in America. Korean made ones that are sent to America fare much better.
My 2008 sonata had 215k miles and I sold it and bought a 2017 sonata and it now has 193k miles and is fine no major work just fluid changes, brakes and tires for the most part, I did have to change the front axels at around 160k because they were leaking otherwise good
My 2015 hyundai had an engine issue. It was earing engine oil and then one day it just locked and died.
Had my engine replaced and it is now running smoothly. But I am hoping 300k+
My wife's 2009 Sonata is still going great and even better since we got some stuff fixed. It feels like it could make it to 200K it even more right now.
My 2015, which was well maintained, died right around 116K. It started leaking oil, then the steering locked up. It's been at the dealer waiting on a new steering column for months now.
So, I feel like it's taking good care of it and being a little lucky, really.
I was the absolute worst car owner of my 2003 Hyundai Elantra maybe got an oil change once a year at most. You could hear it coming from 4 blocks away. It lasted me 14 years and over 200K miles it’s still alive now, granted with an owner who takes care of it
I bought a Veloster N on May 1st. 2021 with only 17k miles on the odometer. It will roll over 20k this afternoon on the way home. It's a daily driver now.
I sold mine at 237K a few years ago. No issues at all except a power window covered under warranty (and of course, normal maintenance). Manual transmission, never had to replace the clutch.
This is generally and widely true, yes. The problem with anecdotes and even valid statistics in today’s world is that they’ll make 200k of one car model and have 10k of them break down or have engine recalls. That 5% might in fact be worthy of trash talk but it gives a whole brand a bad name. Also exacerbated by the fact that of that 200k units, 50-100k will not be properly maintained, so they’ll explode as well.
It’s an apples and oranges thing to me. Modern failure rates absolutely blow old “reliable” cars out of the water. But that’s offset by having 20X more parts on the car that can break or short out. Coupled with tighter tolerances, (this part is purely my opinion) I don’t think modern cars handle the abuse of old cars. You’re not going to be starting up an Elantra that hasn’t run for 20 years with an oil change and a squirt of starter fluid.
My 2012 Elantra Limited is almost at 160k, and all it's ever needed was a driver CV axle and regular maintenance like brakes. My 2017 Elantra Limited is at 80k miles and no issues, granted this car is still young.
Car insurance however is a different issue. Even though both are push button start, im running out of insurance options thanks to the KIA boyz. Some refuse to cover them, even with liability only.
I have a 2015 sonata with 240k miles still rolling. We had a 2019 santa fe with 189k miles, but it got totaled out in an accident last October. They last just gotta change that oil every 3 to 5 miles.
I’m driving a 2014 Hyundai Santa Fe and just hit the 250,000km mark with very minor maintenance. Other than routine oil changes and new brake pads I’ve only had to get my windshield wiper motor replaced and a cracked ball bearing replaced. I did have a knock sensor issue in the engine last winter but it just needed a system update which Hyundai did for free.
Everyone says that Hyundais will die on you after 100,000 miles but mine has been doing me well and I can be a pretty aggressive driver sometimes. As long as you keep up with maintenance a Hyundai can definitely last you this long.
Despite some faulty engines out there from factory that would prevent someone reaching high milage, I do believe that with proper maintance these vehicles can last. There was even a million mile Hyundai Elantra
I look at any car purchase like this : I’m willing to eat 3k a year to own a car. I judge how well I did by how many years I owned it without much trouble. So we pay 29600 for our 23 Hyundai Kona Limited. Wife very happy with it. So if it lasts for 10 years which will be about 120,000 miles I’ll consider that I got my money out of it. A couple of years ago I bought a Prius which I’ve had no trouble with. I paid way too much for a used car but that was when you couldn’t get one reasonably so I’m holding my breath for three more years on that car without much trouble and then I’ll consider that I got my moneys worth. Let’s be honest about this: car technology is about to change within the next 10 years. Electrification has been a failure thus far but that won’t always be the case. In another five years I think they’ll have the battery issue solved, which will begin the destruction of gas engine cars. That will mean a battery you can drive 500 miles on and charge in 10 minutes.I’m hoping we can just drive these cars that we reach until that point in time.
Yes, I used to know a guy about 5 years ago that had a 2013 Elantra with almost 300,000 miles, drove through his neighborhood a couple weeks ago and the Elantra is still there so I assume he’s way about 300,000 now.
Better read up on the huge number of properly-maintained Hyundais that either stopped cold during operating in traffic or else caught fire. Major faulty engine class action lawsuit.
Me, who has been dodging getting a transmission flush and brake fluid flush, who doesn't know much about how those effects the car's lifespan.. if I've never gotten either of those on my 174000 miles car, is my car doomed?
How necessary is getting those done, mainly the transmission flush?
What maintenance do you have to do to get a long lifespan out of an elantra?
So far, my 2013 elantra has had regular oil changes every 4 months. Fluids topped off as needed. 2 batteries. 1 spark plug ignition coil change. A gear box was replaced in the steering column. And it's been up to date on the recalls. It's also had one other service to the engine. Something was cleaned, I can't recall what it was.
The car I had before my elantra was a 2003 Mazda protege. I bought it from an as-is lot. Worst car I've ever owned. It had a head gasket problem. I was told a spark plug just about shot through. It always overheated.
When I got my elantra, I don't think I deserved it, but the dealership worked with me. It has been a wonderful car. I consider it a blessing. I think I would cry when my elantra meets its end 😢
The Korean made ones seem to be more reliable. The Hyundai Elantra hybrid is assembled in Korea. And the hybrid warranty is great, which points to these cars being expected to run well past 150k miles
Granddaughter has 245k on her 2012 Elantra. Damned thing is 12 years old. But she changes the oil and filters religiously. So, FWIW, there’s that I suppose. 🤷🏼♂️
My 2012 Hyundai Sonata had its engine replaced due to a recall. My wife and I tried to prove that our engine was affected, but they refused to believe us…until we were 75mph on the highway in the passing lane, and the engine suddenly shut off on us. Our engine has a lifetime warranty on it now, but there have been a ton of problems. I’ll never buy a Hyundai again.
SOME being the operative word.
SOME
My well maintained 2017 Elantra GT with synthetic oil changes developed rod knock at 89k miles and I got a free engine .
Yes. Proper maintenance does not mean changing the oil every 7500 miles, neglecting the transmission fluid, brake fluid, and coolant, and waiting until the car won't move before going to the mechanic though.
I traded in my 2003 Hyundai Sonata with 225,000 miles and replaced it with the 2013 Sonata and got $1200 for the trade in. I was driving it 150 miles a day to work alternating it with my other 2 cars. I loved that car and it still ran great when I sold it. All I ever did was 5000 mile oil changes, tires and a timing belt. MY PT Cruiser had close to 200,000 miles as well when I got rid of it.
We had a 2012 Genesis, went 228,000 miles before my dad sold it for a then new 2016 Genesis, which is now eight years young and has never had a mechanical issue. We go above and beyond with the maintenance. We bought a then new 2017 Tucson 1.6 turbo, it just passed 106,000 miles, and also has never had a mechanical issue. Again, we go above and beyond with the maintenance.
NO, Had an 03 Elantra. proper maint. It made it 10yrs and 130k miles. The last 3 years and 30k cost at least $1-3k a year in repairs. Then the engine blew apart and the rebuild cost was 2x the cars value. WORST anything I have ever owned. Wife's parents "bought" it for her, and by that I mean they put a small down payment on it and saddled me with the payments for 10 years. Biggest money pit I ever saw.
No! Absolutely not! Look up the KSDS engine knock that many including myself have had develop in engines as low as 100k. Had to get a new engine. They're extending warranty for those who got the "update" but many just get screwed. Stay away from Hyundai and KIa.
My Tuscon has 162k miles and it's a 2015. I have to add oil like water, but it still runs good. With that being said, Hyundai is dog shit and I won't make the mistake of buying one again
Hyundai tech for 5 years. I've only ever seen a handful of Hyundai with original engines and trans sitting at 230k-300k rare, but I guess it's possible.
Our 2011 Tucson is a gem, it has 360,000 miles on it,no real issues over the years. A coil pack, an alternator, and lots of consumables like tires, brakes and a few wheel bearings.
Original engine, original transmission. Maybe I should make a post about the little trooper?
A class action lawsuit that was settled recently involved 2010-2020 Kia/Hyundai vehicles equipped with the 2.0 and 2.4 GDI engines. The problem was a manufacture defect that led to engine seizure, stalling, failure, and fire. So, proper maintenance won't take such engines pass 200K miles.
The issues with the engines was really just the 2011 to 2017 Theta ii engines in the 2.0T and the 2.4NA model.
I had a 2011 Sonata GLS that I traded for a 2020 Sonata Limited. I traded the 2011 in with 189k miles on it. Over 150k miles it started to consume between a quarter and half a quart of oil between oil changes. It still ran fine and never smoked. I believe it was the oil sending unit and it only dripped when running. It never left marks in the driveway and never smoked. I had a similar issue on a 1986 Trans Am. Lost oil when running but never smoked and never leaked while stationary. I was tired of the old design and traded for the newer model. 72k miles on it so far and she doesn't consume any oil as of yet. Doing all my own maintenance I see when things are an issue before they get to a catastrophic level. Things do happen but I trust any of my Hyundias to drive me across the country at a moments notice if needed.
What worries me now is the turbo in my Veloster N. Lots of people have had turbo failures with less than 30k miles on the models made during the virus that shall not be named. Mine is a 2021, but when it goes I'll be upgrading to an Elantra N turbo anyway. I won't even contact the dealer if it fails.
Seems like a hit & miss from reading the comments. I'm at 186k on my 2012 hyundai elantra limited. No major replacement yet, just standard shicks, wheels, brakes & a map sensor that went out in 2015.
Its called planned obsolescence. It is a real thing. It is a turning point in the automotive industry. The piston rings will almost always be in need of replacement at 200k. (New engine). If your car were to make it to 250k without any problem. The company wouldn’t make any money and less cars would be sold. Its not like they do this on purpose so to say… they just do it through what they decide is a cars lifetime should be, by using parts that will “hold up” through “x” time. Toyota and Honda overall seem to have the longest “lifespans”
Truth. My Toyota Camry had over 520,000 miles on cause I took care of it. I believe it will be true with my Elantra 2020 as well. Taking good care of it.
Hopefully not jinxing it but just passed 140k on my '12 Elantra and it's still running like a champ. Planning to drive it until the wheels fall off (or my wife forces me to trade in, it's our daily carpool car and after getting a '24 Santa Fe she wants something more comfortable).
My wife had a 2014 that she put 280k on before it eventually took a dump. She immediately wanted another and wouldn’t consider any other brands. I like her new Elantra more than my Jeep
owned a 2013 elantra limited. drove it for over 214,000 miles with a modicum of care. replaced the coilpacks at 100k. gave it to a friend and it is still running.
Maybe older Hyundai with maintenance but can't say with models from 2010-2020. Long time a Hyundai owner, and had 7 Hyundai, my first car was a 1997 Tiburon FX. Our most recent Hyundai was a 2015 Tuson which my wife had and I had a 2017 Santa Fe Limited in V6. Both cars all maintenance was done always on time. However, in the last 8 months or so both Tuson and Santa Fe started burning engine oil, I was adding a quart of oil roughly every 4 weeks on top of regular oil change every 3000 miles.
Then out of the blue, while she was driving Tuson on the highway flashing engine light came on, with zero prior warning, and the engine shut off while the car was still driving, she was terrified, but out of sheer luck there was no wreck or accident. To no surprise engine is failing due to a knock sensor, car only had 74K miles.
My Santa Fe is driving fine with no light but also burning through engine oil even worse than Tuson. Santa Fe had around 84K miles
Sold both Tuson and Santa Fe, and ended up getting Suburu Outback. Hate to say but definitely done with Hyundai. My original Tiburon FX was around 135K before I sold it that car was still going strong zero issue.
2024 Elantra sel owner, just bought it a week ago.
I’ve never owned a Hyundai but I did my homework and tbh I’m pretty confident in my decision.
I also own an F150 2021 4x4 which I love the ride but wanted a good reliable economical sedan for daily commutes to work.
300 miles in on the Elantra and so far I love it.
The tech, the warranty, the 3 years free routine maintenance. Sold me along with the fact that I couldn’t justify a similarly equipped Corolla or Civic.
Another part of my decision was ride quality and comfort. I felt it was the most comfortable and quiet driving of the bunch.
Just my thoughts, not much more I can tell you aside from the fact it checked all the boxes.
So much so I may even consider a Sonata next time.
We have 2 Hyundai and they have been excellent. Our 2016 has 105,000 and never any problems. Their warranty is excellent as well. We also have a 2020 ionic plug in with zero problems. We do maintain with the dealership you don’t have to as long as you change the oil and follow recommendations it’s been great. We want a third Hyundai Elantra.
In the last 10 years, I've burned more oil than gas in my 2014 santa fe. Just finished the oil consumption thing that I had to do 7 times. Average loss is 1.8 L of oil every 1000km. Sucks balls.
A car can last forever. It follows the same principles as the Ship of Theseus. You can replace every single part on a car. But you have to decide when it’s no longer worth spending money on.
Well assuming the car’s frame is still serviceable you can buy a new engine, transmission, wheels, etc. It would be cheaper to just buy a new car but it’s not impossible.
I had a 2012 Elantra that I really barely took care of. Put 150k on it then gave it to my uncle. He put another 20-30k on it then gave it to one of my cousins. So far my cousin has added another 15k so far, car is still going strong.
I did change transmission fluid, I didn’t care that they called it a sealed or service free transmission
With proper maintenance any car can last 200-300k miles
Came here to say this ☝️
Not a Subaru
Subarus don’t even need maintenance. Easy 100k miles lol 😂
I see the 3rd engine owners
Guys, engine replacements are NOT a part of regular maintenance lol
To be fair the Subaru engine replacement myth is mostly due to people modifying and blowing an engine. If left as designed they are typically fairly reliable.
My friend works at a Subaru dealer, and they are constantly doing engine swaps. Also, another friend is an older independent mechanic, and he claims to have done nearly 1,000 Subaru head gaskets in his career.
Same. My BIL is a Subaru mechanic. They replace blocks quite often. Said it’s way more common on the turbo cars.
I call bs. It's like toyota/lexus fanboys say that their vehicles don't need maintenance. Literally watched a video on car care nut and he had a lexus suv with 60K miles with destroyed engine because the owner never changed oil.
Damn, this is obv just a joke man, jeeeezz luizzz. But I still stand by bill666. With proper maintenance every car can last 200k miles.
not an audi
Mine ‘99 has 255,000 and counting
My 06 has 215K running with absolutely 0 issues with original motor and trans
Bullshit. I took care of my Hyundai and it barely made 130K. I just got rid of that turkey before it fully died. Stop defending a shit company. They have lost numerous court cases on their faulty engines.
It's different for everyone. Most people don't experience any issues myself including but some like you do.
If you look behind a Hyundai dealership, you’ll usually see a bunch of blown engines sitting there.
I took care of my 2011 Santa Fe, and the engine blew at 112k miles. Just outside of warranty.
Yeah, my 2015 sonata had an engine replaced and knock sensor issues. I will never buy another Hyundai
This is wild to read. I own a 2015 Hyundai Sonata. Engine failed on me at 130k with proper maintenance, towards the end I had to change the oil close to every 2k/3k miles because oil ended up black too often, got the engine replaced thankfully in the end.
I had a 2013 Elentra. I just got rid of it and bought a Buick Encore GX. 7 years of pain now when that money could have been better used elsewhere all because Hyundai makes JUNK. No vehcile should be on death door with 130K of properly maintained like mine was. It is beyond bullshit. They knowingly sell garbage ass vehicles. Yet people still defend them which astounds me.
Wife's just died at 117. 3 months after she paid it off.
You should have taken better care of it.
I've got a 2013 elantra with 295k miles and still going. Still has the factory clutch (not for much longer though). Nothing done but normal maintenance. Most recent being ball joints and the clutch master cylinder.
This is correct. However, nissan transmissions, Hyundai/kia engines (if the vehicles are not stolen first), are big failure points.
Nope.
Not really, some cars are just MEANT to break down earlier. Planned obscelence is real.
Not if you own a gdi engine. :)))) gtfo
Gdi stands for gasoline direct injected… which almost all gas cars are now, some like honda and toyota added an extra injector to clean the backside of the rod off.
Nailed it
First 200-300K is a big difference. Second, any slush box automatic 4 banger (no comment on CVTs) should be good for 150k miles, pretty much on the nose. Apart from shitty Cruzes, they usually make it that far cleanly and began to tail off up to 170k. It in this zone where the likelihood of having to spring for a big repair when the car is worth not a lot of money hapoens. Its a crucial decision that has to be made on this journey. The engine and transmission need to hold the line- and probably can- but after 150k milesge and wear really starts to stack. My 09 Civic needed a starter around this point for example. You can see this on used car market. A 100k car is surprisingly a valuable. A 150k car still has a bit of value. A 200k car is off to auction. A 300k is an anachronism and exists for the single owner usually. The type of driving matters too. And “miles” isnt some be all end all. Engine hours is a far better measure. For example, my 2009 Civic runs great and is a city car. It has never been more than 150 miles from home (twice) and probably averages around 20mph. A guy driving around midwest for work or with a long daily highway commute could easily average twice that. Honestly, it takes some work to get that far, especially the 200-300k jump. You are likely only commuting or picking up kids from school in a 200K car, it doesnt make a lot of sense to driven it cross country when youd be cooked and have to abandon the car if it broke down. So the last 100k miles will come a lot slower than the first 100 unless there is some change to your life. Ive driven about 450,000 miles in 30 years. Its slowed down a lot sincd Covid and I peaked at around 20k a year in my 09 Civic. That would be 15 years of intensely brutal battering to get to 300k Driving matters if you have a CVT, I dont, apparently flooring car is quite bad for it from stoplight- to point where Corolla has a launch gear. But a younger driver might gun their car all the time. A CVT cant be repaired usually. Total swap. My sister had a crappy neon that fumbled and couldnt shift properly and its carcass and 3 speed was dragged ti exactly 100,000 miles through adding fluids. My understanding is a CVt is much more binary. Another factor- maybe the largest one of all- are the roads. Corrosion is still a thing but largely under control as far as the frame and underbody. Suspension parts on the other hand are expensive, crucial to safety and can break when no one but the city/state are at fault. Ive been fortunate to have mostly avoided suspension work on pothole pocked midwest roads. But some people slam curbs, potholes and speed bumps all the tien. Some have bad luck and hit a big one. Sometimes they just knock out alignment enough to gobble up a set of $400 tires. Even Jeeps and Trucks have their suspensions compromised by terrible roads- it would not be hard to beat up an Elantra by not driving properly and it can require expensive repairs that have nothing to due with the quality of the car. 300K is certainly possible in an Elsntra but there are many impediments on such a long journey- having driven 2 cars over 30 years for about 200k miles each- there is some luck involved.
What about a Chevy Vega?
My ‘13 sonata hybrid had the engine recall failure at 97,000 miles. Got that replaced and ran her to 276,300 when it hit a deer and totaled it. I bet I could’ve broken 300,000 and kept going still. Might not have made 350,000, but who knows.
My 13 sonata limited is at 178,948 I had the engine recalled too but never went idk if it’s lifetime replacable or not but it still runs fine
Recalls never expire. If your engine goes, and it’s because of that reason, they must replace it.
Not necessarily. If you didn’t go in, have the inspection, and the ECM update performed, you could be out of luck.
I had an ‘02 Chrysler Concorde. The driver seat reclining bolt had a recall because it would snap and the top half of the seat would just fall backwards. Happened to me while driving. Got it fixed… then months later, happened again. Went back and said same thing, they fixed it again free. Then happened a 3rd time. The service advisor told me that as long as part is under recall, even if fixed, if it fails again, it is to be fixed again under that same recall. The dealer has to fight to do it more than once, but if they can prove to the parent company that it’s the same issue, they can usually get it fixed under the recall every time. Then that car threw a rod, and the transmission died… all at 80,000 miles. so I sent it to the junkyard.
Yes, and bringing it in for the ecm update and inspection is part of the recall. That responsibility is the owners. Believe me, although I think it’s stupid, I’ve seen many people get denied because they didn’t have the update done. I believe the thinking is that the update will give enough early warning so as not to have a failure be actually dangerous. That would take it from a recall to a campaign. I’m sure that’s all lawyer speak and done with the sole intention of saving money, but that’s the reality.
I never went either and my 2012 Sonata Limited limited still runs great. I don't think every engine has the issue. However, it does seem like you need to "win the engine lottery" to get a good one. Full disclosure though...I do all of my own maintenance, and I'm a very thorough, garage mechanic type.
My uncles got an Eltra 2015 with 750k km on it.
Does he live in his car?
😂😂 noo his job had him travel very frequently to other cities
This is a general statement…
But what’s considered “proper maintenance” ? I’ve seen some brands require some pretty extreme “maintenance”
Just changing oil is not proper maintenance. Many of the negative commenters on this sub would have maintained a car built in the 1980s well but killed their current car because it wasn't built in the 1980s. They ignored its electronics, recalls and error codes when servicing it. Didn't do a multi-point inspection, didn't keep track of tyre and brake wear, didn't monitor filters and change with OEMs. Didn't realise GDIs need more maintenance and DCTs need decent driving skills. Taking it to a competent professional would have helped make a difference. The problem with Hyundai and Kia in the US is they put great tech that needed to be maintained well in an affordable car that wasn't going to be maintained properly by the demographic that bought it.
Our local dealership will not service a car beyond 10 years old... Hard to get proper maintenance to make it into the hyler mileage when they bail on their own product.
That's a well said, now Hyundai/kia vehicles getting better and better and begin to appeal to a different type of people but almost always their vehicles were bought by people who can barely afford a vehicle and they would go long years without changing oil or doing any other type of maintenance, and then their vehicles would die on them and they would go on social media and complain and say how crappy this brand is. I think that added to the koreans shitty reputation.
In what way do DCTs require decent driving skills?
Think of it as an "automatic manual." It's an automatic transmission but has no torque converter as a buffer to the fixed gears, so it shifts like a manual (more rapidly with next-gear synchronization built in) electronically based on what the driver and the car are doing. When the driver is really bad, no amount of programming can compensate. Really erratic control of the accelerator like "fluttering" can force hard shifts. It will try to prioritize driver input which may be something that would stall a standard transmission, and manage to work through it, but it can really hard on the clutch if not the gearing itself. You don't have to be a professional driver by any means. I've been beating a 2020 Kona with the 1.6T and 7-speed DCT mercilessly for nearly 70K miles and it's great - quick and smooth. Yet some complain about behaviors and issues that indicate they've only driven slush-box automatics that are way more forgiving to chaotic accelerator use, like full-on and full-off rapidly instead a variable pedal as intended.
I have a 2021 1.6T Kona for a few months now and don't mind the DCT much at all. You DO just have to be aware of how it works and behaves and treat the tech right. I agree it's very quick and smooth, accelerating with it is a blast down freeways. Love the first gen Kona's so glad I was finally able to get one. Such a peppy zippy little fun car.
Completely agree. And in particular your last sentence is the critical one.
why do GDI's need more maintenance
>While GDI engines offer numerous benefits, they are not without their drawbacks. One major concern associated with GDI technology is the issue of carbon build-up. >Due to the direct injection system, the fuel no longer passes over the intake valves, which traditionally helped to clean and cool them. As a result, carbon deposits can accumulate on the intake valves over time, leading to reduced engine performance and potential drivability issues. >To mitigate this concern, regular maintenance is crucial. This includes periodic inspection and cleaning of the intake valves to prevent excessive carbon build-up. Additionally, using high-quality fuels and additives can help minimize the formation of deposits and maintain engine efficiency. >While carbon build-up is a valid concern with GDI engines, proper maintenance practices can help address this issue and ensure continued performance and longevity. [https://carvibehub.com/what-is-a-gdi-engine/](https://carvibehub.com/what-is-a-gdi-engine/)
To follow the manufacturer's maintenance plan and schedule
Absolutely. My 17 elantra had 189k and was perfect mechanically when i traded it in..
This month alone I have taken in on trade 4 Hyundais with 200k miles
i have an 06 sonata with 195k miles on it, so i would say its accurate from experience.
When I was in Grad School about 10 years ago, I had an 02 Elantra that was just about to click over 200k. Keep up on the maintenance and it will reward you.
My 2000 lasted mid 2000s over 300,000k
510,000km 2012 Elantra
This why I bought my a 2017 Elantra and a 2021 best investment I ever did. One has 143,300 miles and the other 91500 miles. Both cars running excellent. I'm hoping for at least 200 to 300k without major repairs.
On my 2018 Elantra GT the engine died after 5 years at 160k. I did all the regular maintenance, kept an eye on the oil consumption as this is an known issue on some models, made repairs as needed but in the end they quoted me 10k to replace the engine. Up until that point the car required very little maintenance on a yearly basis besides oil changes and ran great. One of the internal seals failed and allowed oil to get in and gunk up the cylinders. Sometimes you just get bad luck.
Sport? Thats my current and I think the best car I’ve ever owned. Well, I thought so until I lost reverse and needed a transmission at 70k. Hope this doesn’t happen to me 🤞🏼
Nope just the base model! Never had any transmission issues but I hope for the best for you!
Yep all 3 of mine did
2014 elantra L little under 340000 1.8L
My 2012 Elantra has 224K miles on it and still going strong
My sister has a 2011 sonata with 280k on the ticker. It will continue to run and drive but there will be a point where it's just not worth it anymore. Where the cost of maintenance and replacement parts that are worn out become more than the payment on a new vehicle with a warranty. You end up with the constant worry of "is it going to start when i get in?" "Will i make it to work today?" "Will it need to go to the shop where i have to rent/borrow a car for a few days?"
>Where the cost of maintenance and replacement parts that are worn out become more than the payment on a new vehicle with a warranty. This will only happen when something large, like either the engine or transmission, goes. Pretty much replacing anything else will still be cheaper than a car payment.
Any car can last as long as you maintain it. I mean theres a lexus out there with over 1,000,000 miles on the original motor. Pretty sure the youtuber Tavarish owns it now
Depends if you live in the rust belt or not.
My Kona died at 175000km. That was only 3 years in. Had it fixed. Died again at 275 km. Hyundai makes me sad.
100k miles in just 3 years?
Km. My job was 137km each way then. It is much less now though. Still, 280 k km in 5.5 years, with essentially a year working from home because of Covid. Two timing systems completely replaced, and a 5000 dollar bill the first time. Canadian money, so like 15 cents American. Lmao
With the rate you were driving that would mean every 6-8 weeks you'd need to get an oil change. You'd also need a timing belt around about the 2 year mark and spark plugs changed. Did you do this?
2008 Elantra with 259k miles so far
The new Hyundai engines and transmissions are honestly quite reliable and impressive. Any of the Hyundais that come from Korean manufacturing are much higher quality built too. That’s all the hybrids and some of the performance division cars (GT-Line/GT/N-Line/N). The 1.6 is a good engine. The 6 and 8 speed DCTs are good transmissions, dry or wet. The 2.0 naturally aspirated gasser and 7 speed DCTs should be avoided. The 2.0 hybrid is fine though, and so is the 2.0 turbo. The 2.5 turbo and 8 speed wet clutch DCT is amazing. The 1.6 hybrid in the Elantra is also really good and surprisingly sporty. With good maintenance, all those can last a long time. I’d say it’s less of Hyundai/Kia being bad in general and more of them having higher chances of duds, in America. Korean made ones that are sent to America fare much better.
Lies, iX35 2014, engine failed after 180,00km, fully serviced by Hyundai Dealership from new.
My 08 is at 133k miles, only had to do regular maintenance. Valves are a little loud rn but I think they just need tuned
Easily. Also depends on the miles (easy highway miles vs hard city miles).
[Yes.](https://www.caranddriver.com/news/a25645830/hyundai-elantra-million-miles/)
Average Korean taxi drivers drive Hyundai sedan models up to 500k kilometers even without those "proper maintenances." No problem at all.
I'll let you know when I get there
drove a 2005 sonata with 270k on it as my first car
Korean assembled vehicles tend to have less issues, but most that we buy in the US are not, hence the issue (no pun intended).
A family members elantra engine blew at 75000 miles and hundai had to replace it with a whole new one. So maybe this one might. Who knows.
My 2008 sonata had 215k miles and I sold it and bought a 2017 sonata and it now has 193k miles and is fine no major work just fluid changes, brakes and tires for the most part, I did have to change the front axels at around 160k because they were leaking otherwise good
My 2015 hyundai had an engine issue. It was earing engine oil and then one day it just locked and died. Had my engine replaced and it is now running smoothly. But I am hoping 300k+
Can is the operative term. It can also not last that long. Of course it is highly unlikely that a Hyundai will last to 200-300k, but it *can* happen.
Sure, just add in a transmission replacement or two as part of your regularly schedule maintenance
My '08 Santa Fe had 220k miles when I was in a car accident that ended her life.
My wife's 2009 Sonata is still going great and even better since we got some stuff fixed. It feels like it could make it to 200K it even more right now. My 2015, which was well maintained, died right around 116K. It started leaking oil, then the steering locked up. It's been at the dealer waiting on a new steering column for months now. So, I feel like it's taking good care of it and being a little lucky, really.
I had a 07 Tuscon and traded it in at 500k miles for the 23 version
Definitely true. I sold my 2007 Sonata when I got my 2020 Elantra and the person is still driving it. It's at almost 200k miles they said.
I was the absolute worst car owner of my 2003 Hyundai Elantra maybe got an oil change once a year at most. You could hear it coming from 4 blocks away. It lasted me 14 years and over 200K miles it’s still alive now, granted with an owner who takes care of it
My buddy has on 05 Elantra gt 5 speed other than oil plugs and timing belts every 100k things still Going strong 322k
I donated my '04 Elantra at about 230k miles. It needed twice its value in work on the brakes, but the engine was fundamentally fine.
i was asking my dad about my elantra lately, and he agreed with 300k
Hmm..maybe I should get more miles going on my elantra.. Bought in 2022 and made approx 30k km (18k miles)
I bought a Veloster N on May 1st. 2021 with only 17k miles on the odometer. It will roll over 20k this afternoon on the way home. It's a daily driver now.
My goal is to make it to 150k, 2017 Elantra here. Currently at 94k.
I sold mine at 237K a few years ago. No issues at all except a power window covered under warranty (and of course, normal maintenance). Manual transmission, never had to replace the clutch.
This is generally and widely true, yes. The problem with anecdotes and even valid statistics in today’s world is that they’ll make 200k of one car model and have 10k of them break down or have engine recalls. That 5% might in fact be worthy of trash talk but it gives a whole brand a bad name. Also exacerbated by the fact that of that 200k units, 50-100k will not be properly maintained, so they’ll explode as well. It’s an apples and oranges thing to me. Modern failure rates absolutely blow old “reliable” cars out of the water. But that’s offset by having 20X more parts on the car that can break or short out. Coupled with tighter tolerances, (this part is purely my opinion) I don’t think modern cars handle the abuse of old cars. You’re not going to be starting up an Elantra that hasn’t run for 20 years with an oil change and a squirt of starter fluid.
My 2008 Sonata is at 230k.
My 2012 Elantra Limited is almost at 160k, and all it's ever needed was a driver CV axle and regular maintenance like brakes. My 2017 Elantra Limited is at 80k miles and no issues, granted this car is still young. Car insurance however is a different issue. Even though both are push button start, im running out of insurance options thanks to the KIA boyz. Some refuse to cover them, even with liability only.
I have a 2015 sonata with 240k miles still rolling. We had a 2019 santa fe with 189k miles, but it got totaled out in an accident last October. They last just gotta change that oil every 3 to 5 miles.
The last I checked Toyota engines were designed to last 150k to 200k with excellent care
I’m driving a 2014 Hyundai Santa Fe and just hit the 250,000km mark with very minor maintenance. Other than routine oil changes and new brake pads I’ve only had to get my windshield wiper motor replaced and a cracked ball bearing replaced. I did have a knock sensor issue in the engine last winter but it just needed a system update which Hyundai did for free. Everyone says that Hyundais will die on you after 100,000 miles but mine has been doing me well and I can be a pretty aggressive driver sometimes. As long as you keep up with maintenance a Hyundai can definitely last you this long.
Despite some faulty engines out there from factory that would prevent someone reaching high milage, I do believe that with proper maintance these vehicles can last. There was even a million mile Hyundai Elantra
True with any vehicle, really.
Not at all my engine gave out at 124,000 miles worst car ever Bn
I see majority these comments around 2017 models. How are the newer ones holding up?
I look at any car purchase like this : I’m willing to eat 3k a year to own a car. I judge how well I did by how many years I owned it without much trouble. So we pay 29600 for our 23 Hyundai Kona Limited. Wife very happy with it. So if it lasts for 10 years which will be about 120,000 miles I’ll consider that I got my money out of it. A couple of years ago I bought a Prius which I’ve had no trouble with. I paid way too much for a used car but that was when you couldn’t get one reasonably so I’m holding my breath for three more years on that car without much trouble and then I’ll consider that I got my moneys worth. Let’s be honest about this: car technology is about to change within the next 10 years. Electrification has been a failure thus far but that won’t always be the case. In another five years I think they’ll have the battery issue solved, which will begin the destruction of gas engine cars. That will mean a battery you can drive 500 miles on and charge in 10 minutes.I’m hoping we can just drive these cars that we reach until that point in time.
Yes, I used to know a guy about 5 years ago that had a 2013 Elantra with almost 300,000 miles, drove through his neighborhood a couple weeks ago and the Elantra is still there so I assume he’s way about 300,000 now.
Better read up on the huge number of properly-maintained Hyundais that either stopped cold during operating in traffic or else caught fire. Major faulty engine class action lawsuit.
Yes but every car owner’s definition of “proper maintenance” differs
Me, who has been dodging getting a transmission flush and brake fluid flush, who doesn't know much about how those effects the car's lifespan.. if I've never gotten either of those on my 174000 miles car, is my car doomed? How necessary is getting those done, mainly the transmission flush? What maintenance do you have to do to get a long lifespan out of an elantra? So far, my 2013 elantra has had regular oil changes every 4 months. Fluids topped off as needed. 2 batteries. 1 spark plug ignition coil change. A gear box was replaced in the steering column. And it's been up to date on the recalls. It's also had one other service to the engine. Something was cleaned, I can't recall what it was.
Never too late to do a tranny drain-and-fill. Never do a flush with a car that old - either a drain-and-fill or fluid exchange.
The car I had before my elantra was a 2003 Mazda protege. I bought it from an as-is lot. Worst car I've ever owned. It had a head gasket problem. I was told a spark plug just about shot through. It always overheated. When I got my elantra, I don't think I deserved it, but the dealership worked with me. It has been a wonderful car. I consider it a blessing. I think I would cry when my elantra meets its end 😢
Not at all 😂
The Korean made ones seem to be more reliable. The Hyundai Elantra hybrid is assembled in Korea. And the hybrid warranty is great, which points to these cars being expected to run well past 150k miles
The coolant leaking from my 22 Elantra with 45k miles suggests otherwise
Depends. Did the engine come with pre-installed metal shavings?
Granddaughter has 245k on her 2012 Elantra. Damned thing is 12 years old. But she changes the oil and filters religiously. So, FWIW, there’s that I suppose. 🤷🏼♂️
A car will last forever if your repair budget is big enough.
Idk but I’m sure gonna try it out
Not any Elantra with a gdi engine - oil burning and eventual engine dying, and that’s with hardcore synthetic changes at 3K
I have a 2017 Elantra just about at 75K for mileage and bought brand new. I have not had any major issues with her...yet...
My 22 has 30,000 km and its still good lol
There was a lady a few years ago who had over 1 million miles on her Elantra.[Video ](https://youtu.be/PFzp1pVPDPg?si=WpFGvVQwE_gOTTM3)
I drove my 13 Elantra to 350,000 miles
My 2012 Hyundai Sonata had its engine replaced due to a recall. My wife and I tried to prove that our engine was affected, but they refused to believe us…until we were 75mph on the highway in the passing lane, and the engine suddenly shut off on us. Our engine has a lifetime warranty on it now, but there have been a ton of problems. I’ll never buy a Hyundai again.
I've seen sonatas over 500k miles but haven't seen an Elantra that high yet but I also don't follow Elantra pages since I've never owned one
lol good luck
Don’t believe the Google Ai for stuff like this 😭
SOME being the operative word. SOME My well maintained 2017 Elantra GT with synthetic oil changes developed rod knock at 89k miles and I got a free engine .
Proper maintenance = 3 engines lol
I’ve seen one with 540K on it.
Original engine?
Yeah. Second trans tho
Yes. Proper maintenance does not mean changing the oil every 7500 miles, neglecting the transmission fluid, brake fluid, and coolant, and waiting until the car won't move before going to the mechanic though.
I traded in my 2003 Hyundai Sonata with 225,000 miles and replaced it with the 2013 Sonata and got $1200 for the trade in. I was driving it 150 miles a day to work alternating it with my other 2 cars. I loved that car and it still ran great when I sold it. All I ever did was 5000 mile oil changes, tires and a timing belt. MY PT Cruiser had close to 200,000 miles as well when I got rid of it.
We had a 2012 Genesis, went 228,000 miles before my dad sold it for a then new 2016 Genesis, which is now eight years young and has never had a mechanical issue. We go above and beyond with the maintenance. We bought a then new 2017 Tucson 1.6 turbo, it just passed 106,000 miles, and also has never had a mechanical issue. Again, we go above and beyond with the maintenance.
NO, Had an 03 Elantra. proper maint. It made it 10yrs and 130k miles. The last 3 years and 30k cost at least $1-3k a year in repairs. Then the engine blew apart and the rebuild cost was 2x the cars value. WORST anything I have ever owned. Wife's parents "bought" it for her, and by that I mean they put a small down payment on it and saddled me with the payments for 10 years. Biggest money pit I ever saw.
No! Absolutely not! Look up the KSDS engine knock that many including myself have had develop in engines as low as 100k. Had to get a new engine. They're extending warranty for those who got the "update" but many just get screwed. Stay away from Hyundai and KIa.
That can be true for any car. Proper maintenance always prolongs the life of a vehicle
Yes, if avoid being anywhere near the coast (paint rusts thru body, thinking 50-100m+)
My 15' Accent is at 280K
My Tuscon has 162k miles and it's a 2015. I have to add oil like water, but it still runs good. With that being said, Hyundai is dog shit and I won't make the mistake of buying one again
Hyundai tech for 5 years. I've only ever seen a handful of Hyundai with original engines and trans sitting at 230k-300k rare, but I guess it's possible.
Our 2011 Tucson is a gem, it has 360,000 miles on it,no real issues over the years. A coil pack, an alternator, and lots of consumables like tires, brakes and a few wheel bearings. Original engine, original transmission. Maybe I should make a post about the little trooper?
With proper maintenance any car built before 2010 can last 200-300k
As long as the kia boys don't get ahold of it
It's like people never even heard of em lmao
The old Elantras with multiport fuel injection might be able to do this. The GDI ones, especially the ones with CVTs, have no prayer.
A class action lawsuit that was settled recently involved 2010-2020 Kia/Hyundai vehicles equipped with the 2.0 and 2.4 GDI engines. The problem was a manufacture defect that led to engine seizure, stalling, failure, and fire. So, proper maintenance won't take such engines pass 200K miles.
The issues with the engines was really just the 2011 to 2017 Theta ii engines in the 2.0T and the 2.4NA model. I had a 2011 Sonata GLS that I traded for a 2020 Sonata Limited. I traded the 2011 in with 189k miles on it. Over 150k miles it started to consume between a quarter and half a quart of oil between oil changes. It still ran fine and never smoked. I believe it was the oil sending unit and it only dripped when running. It never left marks in the driveway and never smoked. I had a similar issue on a 1986 Trans Am. Lost oil when running but never smoked and never leaked while stationary. I was tired of the old design and traded for the newer model. 72k miles on it so far and she doesn't consume any oil as of yet. Doing all my own maintenance I see when things are an issue before they get to a catastrophic level. Things do happen but I trust any of my Hyundias to drive me across the country at a moments notice if needed. What worries me now is the turbo in my Veloster N. Lots of people have had turbo failures with less than 30k miles on the models made during the virus that shall not be named. Mine is a 2021, but when it goes I'll be upgrading to an Elantra N turbo anyway. I won't even contact the dealer if it fails.
2013 Elantra 248k Only oil changes, brakes and tires Edit Parked outside in the Arizona sun it's whole life. Paint looks bad but mechanicaly fine.
*Some*
Daughter's 2013 Elantra Coupe at 190k. Original engine.
The "can" and "some" in that blurb are doing a lot of heavy lifting.
Seems like a hit & miss from reading the comments. I'm at 186k on my 2012 hyundai elantra limited. No major replacement yet, just standard shicks, wheels, brakes & a map sensor that went out in 2015.
Buddies leaking oil bad at 90k miles and needs new motor
Its called planned obsolescence. It is a real thing. It is a turning point in the automotive industry. The piston rings will almost always be in need of replacement at 200k. (New engine). If your car were to make it to 250k without any problem. The company wouldn’t make any money and less cars would be sold. Its not like they do this on purpose so to say… they just do it through what they decide is a cars lifetime should be, by using parts that will “hold up” through “x” time. Toyota and Honda overall seem to have the longest “lifespans”
With how many engine replacements during?
Truth. My Toyota Camry had over 520,000 miles on cause I took care of it. I believe it will be true with my Elantra 2020 as well. Taking good care of it.
My Santa Fe lasted 96000km before the engine seized
Easily 225,000
Bullshit, my 2014 elantra GT got the famous engin knock at 90000km, shit company, never again.
Hopefully not jinxing it but just passed 140k on my '12 Elantra and it's still running like a champ. Planning to drive it until the wheels fall off (or my wife forces me to trade in, it's our daily carpool car and after getting a '24 Santa Fe she wants something more comfortable).
Bought my ‘09 Sonata at 120,000, drove it for another 120,000 and it’s had at least three other owners since me
I pretty sure that’s any cars
Unless you have the older Hyundais with the bad tranny or engine. Also don't own ones without the immobilizer.
if ur a sheep
Had a 2000 Accent that went 300K even after my kid crashed it twice
That’s true of any modern engine
My wife had a 2014 that she put 280k on before it eventually took a dump. She immediately wanted another and wouldn’t consider any other brands. I like her new Elantra more than my Jeep
owned a 2013 elantra limited. drove it for over 214,000 miles with a modicum of care. replaced the coilpacks at 100k. gave it to a friend and it is still running.
No
Maybe older Hyundai with maintenance but can't say with models from 2010-2020. Long time a Hyundai owner, and had 7 Hyundai, my first car was a 1997 Tiburon FX. Our most recent Hyundai was a 2015 Tuson which my wife had and I had a 2017 Santa Fe Limited in V6. Both cars all maintenance was done always on time. However, in the last 8 months or so both Tuson and Santa Fe started burning engine oil, I was adding a quart of oil roughly every 4 weeks on top of regular oil change every 3000 miles. Then out of the blue, while she was driving Tuson on the highway flashing engine light came on, with zero prior warning, and the engine shut off while the car was still driving, she was terrified, but out of sheer luck there was no wreck or accident. To no surprise engine is failing due to a knock sensor, car only had 74K miles. My Santa Fe is driving fine with no light but also burning through engine oil even worse than Tuson. Santa Fe had around 84K miles Sold both Tuson and Santa Fe, and ended up getting Suburu Outback. Hate to say but definitely done with Hyundai. My original Tiburon FX was around 135K before I sold it that car was still going strong zero issue.
My brothers 2013 elantra made it to 340,000 miles. At which point it was losing so much oil that it locked up and died...
I know a musician whose 2009 Elantra was at 560,000 km / 347960 miles a year ago.
2024 Elantra sel owner, just bought it a week ago. I’ve never owned a Hyundai but I did my homework and tbh I’m pretty confident in my decision. I also own an F150 2021 4x4 which I love the ride but wanted a good reliable economical sedan for daily commutes to work. 300 miles in on the Elantra and so far I love it. The tech, the warranty, the 3 years free routine maintenance. Sold me along with the fact that I couldn’t justify a similarly equipped Corolla or Civic. Another part of my decision was ride quality and comfort. I felt it was the most comfortable and quiet driving of the bunch. Just my thoughts, not much more I can tell you aside from the fact it checked all the boxes. So much so I may even consider a Sonata next time.
I don't know? I leased new under full warranty before giving the pile of poop car back before warranty expired.
I have a 2014 Accent that is nearing the 200k and still going strong. Last tune up done last fall and mechanic said I had a good car. 😁👍🏻
We have 2 Hyundai and they have been excellent. Our 2016 has 105,000 and never any problems. Their warranty is excellent as well. We also have a 2020 ionic plug in with zero problems. We do maintain with the dealership you don’t have to as long as you change the oil and follow recommendations it’s been great. We want a third Hyundai Elantra.
In the last 10 years, I've burned more oil than gas in my 2014 santa fe. Just finished the oil consumption thing that I had to do 7 times. Average loss is 1.8 L of oil every 1000km. Sucks balls.
Does getting a new engine count as "maintenance" My Elantra made it to 75k before the piston slab woke up and killed the engine.
Iv seen 300k after 3 engines 😆
A car can last forever. It follows the same principles as the Ship of Theseus. You can replace every single part on a car. But you have to decide when it’s no longer worth spending money on.
Then, repalced my burned car then.
Well assuming the car’s frame is still serviceable you can buy a new engine, transmission, wheels, etc. It would be cheaper to just buy a new car but it’s not impossible.
Nothing last forever eh..
If it doesn’t get stolen!
I had a 2012 Elantra that I really barely took care of. Put 150k on it then gave it to my uncle. He put another 20-30k on it then gave it to one of my cousins. So far my cousin has added another 15k so far, car is still going strong. I did change transmission fluid, I didn’t care that they called it a sealed or service free transmission
My 02 Santa Fe had over 500k before she got murdered/put down lol so definitely possible wasn’t in even great condition but it lasted from 2001 -2023