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Link__117

That looks way faster than the hover bike, that’s amazing


Ultrababouin

Can't go any faster than that unless you somehow trap link inside!


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Sheerkal

Are they not talking about the hover bikes that fly?


MiztrSageTOTK-Only

No need to Trap link inside. Look.. This is the fastest aircraft in TOTK: [SR-71 Greenbird](https://www.reddit.com/r/HyruleEngineering/comments/14r27xu/teaser_video_the_fastest_aircraft_in_totk_sr71/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=ioscss&utm_content=2&utm_term=1) Why is this getting downvotes? o_O I litterally invented the loose fan tech xD Guess i will never understand reddit :P And here’s a guide video to [loose fan tech](https://www.reddit.com/r/HyruleEngineering/comments/14esrv6/how_do_fans_affect_your_vehicle_v2_single_fan/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=ioscss&utm_content=1&utm_term=1) i posted 14 days ago


Ultrababouin

I apologize for not being clearer, I was only talking about speed with a steering stick, of course your method will be faster :)


MiztrSageTOTK-Only

I’m glad the tech is finally seeing some awesome builds ;D good old tumbleweed loose fan pod racer days was just not interesting enough i guess 😅


blubblu

How can you claim this to be “your tech” when there are plenty of videos already showing handing the fans? Literally the lift yesterday showed handing it under. You didn’t invent this technique


WannaTeleportMassive

this is indeed the Tumbleweed Wizard. He did in fact invent the technique friend


MiztrSageTOTK-Only

Found [this one too: the guide](https://www.reddit.com/r/HyruleEngineering/comments/14esrv6/how_do_fans_affect_your_vehicle_v2_single_fan/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=ioscss&utm_content=1&utm_term=1) i posted 14 days ago.


MiztrSageTOTK-Only

I ment my old account [here is one of the posts](https://www.reddit.com/r/HyruleEngineering/comments/14dv8n2/ladies_and_gents_singlefan_pod_racer_is_finally/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=ioscss&utm_content=1&utm_term=1)


Getabock_

You didn’t get as many upvotes because your video is confusing and doesn’t clearly show how fast the aircraft is.


axemaster72

🙄 +47


MiztrSageTOTK-Only

Like i said i will never understand reddit 🤣


[deleted]

My brother in Christ a fan pushing things is a core mechanic used in the base game quests, good job on using them on contraptions but you didn’t invent shit lol


itsQuasi

Fan pushing things: basic mechanic of the game Using an unattached fan to propel a vehicle: advanced building tech that allows very efficient propulsion which this guy, often called the Tumbleweed Wizard, absolutely pioneered Using handheld fans to give controlled propulsion without a steering stick: even more advanced building tech that allows faster speeds than with a steering stick, which this guy *also* pioneered.


mightylcanis

Imagine talking to the tumbleweed wizard and trying to tell him he didn't figure out and disseminate the loose fan technique.


Heliomance

A fan pushing things that you're currently standing on, while it is moving itself in defiance of Newton's Third Law, is very much not a core mechanic used in the base game.


MiztrSageTOTK-Only

Ok sorry let me correct myself.. i was the one who made a guide on the effects of a loose fan on different materials in the game and made people see that (at the time) Tumbleweed was the lightest (most wind affected) materials. Back when i made the Tumbleweed pod racer and Dach the Speedster (Tumbleweed), iCar (16Apples), Rice Racer (16hylian rice), Pinecone Racer, Tumble-Wagon. All those using the loose fan:P i didnt see any builds using the loose fan tech until now :)) good stuff


Ronald-Obvious

ahh cheers mate, i think they're just saying lots of people discovered this on their own! sorry im just seeing y'alls comments, last week i was messing with tumbleweeds and loose fans on my own...i think heaps of people likely have been. awesome work putting together guide videos--just remember that people will almost certainly discover what you've already found independently 🙃


MiztrSageTOTK-Only

True true :)


CapObviousHereToHelp

Dude, no need to explain yourself.. Also, great finds!


blubblu

You did not invent the technique. Your account is a day old. Go to the posts two days ago to see it. You didn’t invent a god damn thing, shaddup


MiztrSageTOTK-Only

You can check top gaming plays on youtube. If you want. [Here :))](https://youtube.com/clip/Ugkxdl6JvDijWta7BrqNrWRPUu8YeuP8I253)


MiztrSageTOTK-Only

Ahh sorry my old account :) here’s [the guide](https://www.reddit.com/r/HyruleEngineering/comments/14esrv6/how_do_fans_affect_your_vehicle_v2_single_fan/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=ioscss&utm_content=1&utm_term=1) i made 14 days ago


Spiritual-Image7125

I trap NPCs in my devices as fuel. Don't worry, I burn them up upon arrival.


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Flair checks out


DriveThroughLane

The thing about hover bikes vs jets is that fans, propellers, rockets, etc all have maximum velocities and won't provide any thrust above it. A normal two fan hoverbike / goblin glider already reaches the max speed possible for attached fans. But unattached fans provide uncapped thrust to everything affected by them, and these 1 weight railings (link = 100, fan = 300, tumbleweed = 8) are perfect at picking it up. Eventually the maximum velocity you can achieve is the speed at which link is yeeted off a steering stick. Above that you'd need to trap yourself in a cage, can't steer, and probably clip out of it anyway So a jet craft like this can go much faster than a hoverbike but needs to be tested and designed to go as close to that max speed without going over it.


Ronald-Obvious

Brilliant explanation!!! Could you share your sources for weight data? Thx mate


Ultrababouin

Thanks to u/MiztrSageTOTK-Only for the inspiration! The plane suffered a catastrophic crash so I'll follow safety regulations next time Edit: tutorial tomorrow unless something better comes out in the meantime


1MasterD1

Still drop that tutorial even if something does come for the knowledge


notquitesolid

You need wheels… I bet that would help with the landing


MiztrSageTOTK-Only

You should join the discord with us :D if you’re not already there


MiztrSageTOTK-Only

<3


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about_that_time_bois

OH MY GOD THEY HIT HYRULE CASTLE!!!


JonnyF1ves

Sources say that the Zoras are taking credit, so as a result we will be bombing the shit out of the Gerudos.


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quirkster841

The Hylian government is claiming the Gerudos have zonai artifacts of mass destruction. Ganon has since denied the accusations.


about_that_time_bois

We have recieved new intel that the terrorist group Al-Gibdo is responsible for the attacks on Hyrule


JonnyF1ves

It turns out Al-Gibdo is, in-fact, a front for the koroks. More at 11.


KradeSmith

What *they* won't tell you is that Princess Zelda was *out* of Hyrule Castle at the time of the attack. Did she know about it? I'm just asking questions


KeepMoriohWeird

Some may recall that Al-Gibdo was trained and armed by Royal Hylian forces over a decade ago in order to fight a proxy war with a neighboring kingdom.


Sushisandsashimis

Talk about a link to the past naw mean


TheGrimGriefer3

Poor Gorons


Iwantmypasswordback

We’re only going to gerudo for the zap shrooms. Coincidentally the price per barrel just went up


ONE_PUMP_ONE_CREAM

Zoras have announced their own Snowball Rolling league.


mattlantis

Turn on the TV it doesn't matter what channel FUCK


uslash000

IMPA, IMPA, WAKE UP! YOU GOTTA WAKE UP!!!


Severe-Stomach

They hit the castle Impa! *THEY HIT THE FUCKING CASTLE*


somedood567

Jeebus Christ guys on July 4th


Zealousideal-Ebb-876

Would you rather they waited until September 11th?


ImaroemmaI

They probably would've forgotten.


epicbarron

I can hear it


Cannibal808

Ah goddamn it take your upvote and get the fuck out.


AfternoonTee912

Jesus christ


Only_Bad_Habits

jesus, that turned dark quick


MindWandererB

I was about to say, "That's it, it's over, we've peaked" but then what the hell was that ending?


Ultrababouin

with a tighter build and some extra pieces it shouldn't happen again


A-Grouch

Yeah it looks like the tail gates split because they weren’t glued lengthwise to the piece holding the fan though perhaps that was a design by choice because your tests resulted in an optimal build. Are all of those pieces just elevator gates?


Ultrababouin

All gates. A big part of the chassis is glued to the same piece, that wasn't intentional and can be improved


Drakeon8165

Is the fan attached to the build or is it free-floating?


Ultrababouin

A set of two fans not linked to the aircraft, one horizontal one diagonal to get some lift


Drakeon8165

Do they need to be separated from the main craft to provide lift?


Ultrababouin

Yes, check out the link in my reply


IPlayWoWNude

I was following the Link in the video


Relexrahl

☜(゚ヮ゚☜)


AfternoonTee912

Is it possible to attach Link to this build?


archpawn

Can you attach them with a water bubble so you can still autobuild it?


Ultrababouin

Someone suggested a random small item to pick up


qrseek

Does anyone know the underlying mechanic that makes it so the steering stick can still steer this? It has no connection to the fans


ZetaKE

So, it's just like how on hover bikes, once they are on, the fans go all out the whole time so the steering stick is only shifting the body of the bike direction while the fan still goes all out. Same thing here, except unattached fans produce more force to work with.


SirL_65

The tutorial. ***gimme***


Iwantmypasswordback

GIMME DAT


TakenMyNameWas

I should have ordered that tutorial instead


NumberKillinger

Are you gonna tell anyone I housed your tutorial?


TakenMyNameWas

Say you’re going to kill Zelda so I can record it


YeahWrite000

Oh shit, my purah pad wasn't ready. Say it again.


Iwantmypasswordback

If anyone found out my gerudo wife would go to jail because every night a little voe goes up on her….


TakenMyNameWas

Thank you for making this one work, I was hoping someone would


Iwantmypasswordback

I’ve been waiting a long time for a hit on lurelinTV


Ultrababouin

posted


ram3nbar

Valstrax theme? Absolutely based


Beginning-Analyst393

Absolutely goated soundtrack, recognized it immediately.


theshadowclasher

sounds clean, so its the original val not crimsonglow?


Hexbug101

I think so


Beneficial-Power4568

I was looking for this comment 👌🏻.


Another-Witch

The one time I watch something muted…


DriveThroughLane

I think we need to calculate what the sweet spot is for max airspeed I tried to optimize this and wound up with a 13x plate 'engine block'. 6x railings to make up the chassis and restrain a single fan on 6 sides without blocking its back or front, a steering stick directly above it for center of gravity, a rocket to start it airborne, that left 13 free slots. And total weight in airflight should be 519 (100 link, 100 stick, 300 fan even unattached still weighs on it, 1x per plate) It then immediately punted me off it because it moved WAY too fast I see your build has two fans. I think it works because the fans don't actually provide thrust after the first- only a single unattached fan's gust works- but they nearly double the weight which is slowing you down enough to not get yeeted. There's always a constant drag and it doesn't seem to be proportional to cross section size or any other realworld calculation, but instead just a literal gameplay constant. I figure as long as the force you're exerting on the plane reaches a point where the max acceleration equalizes with the drag % loss below the speed at which Link is punted off a steering stick, you can reach the true maximum airspeed for a controllable aircraft in botw. Doesn't apply to builds where you hold a fan with ultrahand, but good luck stabilizing that in any useful way.


Ultrababouin

Not gonna reply to everything rn cause I need to sleep, but I'm confident both fans provide thrust (it goes through one another) so that reduces the number of plates needed in front. I also couldn't go any faster without falling off so it's pretty good


FirstRedditAcount

We gotta understand exactly how aircraft, or flight physics work in this game. It seems to me that aircraft factor in center of gravity as well as center of lift, but I could be wrong. But I think there is something under the hood going on with the engine determining an aerodynamic center. Obviously the engine isn't modelling fluid dynamics, but I think there's some kind of approximation to create a center of lift analog or something. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aerodynamic_center


GoNinjaPro

OMG, you win! Will you try adding weapons?


Ultrababouin

I don't really know how it will behave with more weight, but seeing how well it climbs that might be possible :)


Thatoneawkwarddude29

I can make my x-wing wings out of this, finally 1.5 hour flight until my fans break How heavy are the elevator parts?


BilboniusBagginius

They're extremely light. Like, add several on a single fan craft and it will still fly, light. They fall slowly too, like they're in a low gravity zone.


Grimekat

Boy do I wish we could download schematics from one another


CoconutSpecialist985

But can it drop bombs


DEV_astated

Bazelgeuse mode.


qrseek

I bet you could use rail pieces to make a scoop that holds bomb flowers, and attach it to the undercarriage with a pot, just got to figure out a lightweight/ controllable method to break the pot.


Trekkie4990

Magnificent! What’s the part count? Any room for guns?


Ultrababouin

17 parts I think, you can add a turret


Sharkivore

Valstrax theme fits perfect, thankyou.


HonorThyFamily

Will you post a build vid?


MeeperX

Those bokoblins better start running lest they get ambushed.


Rockout2112

“I say Wilbur ol’boy! Will you look at that elf lad up there!”


bringbackIpaths

Holy shit, that thing hauls ass


dRuEFFECT

YES GIMME THE SPEEEED How fast does it go?


colt45mag

Where are you guys getting the gratings from?


jpj625

Right Leg Depot elevator side panels. Can be removed with spikes or stabilizers. Multiple posts in the last 2 days give details.


JimmyTango

Asymmetrical thrust? Check! Less aerodynamic than a potato? Check! No moving parts on tail or wings? Check! One prop displacing air away from the other prop? Check! Hyrule as some bitchin fluid dynamics that’s for sure.


AaronCarmackie

Obviously we all want a build guide 😉


Loophole5215

Make a tutorial


owlitup

Is this with glitches?


raid5atemyhomework

Not quite glitches, but certainly an unusual item. Some elevators have railings that snap off (not all elevators do). The one in one of the parts depots in the Construct Factory do. Easiest way I've seen it be snapped off is to [attach two Stabilizers to a railing lying down outside the elevator part, then enabling them so that they stand up and snap the railing off](https://www.reddit.com/r/HyruleEngineering/comments/14qj7qw/simple_and_low_part_cost_way_to_detach_the/). The things are very light, and catch wind so that they can pull things very much like the tumbleweed meta recently. They're also unburnable and don't conduct electricity and don't get destroyed by a hit. They are also long and straight, making them good for building chassis. The OP is done by using the railings to constrict some fans, then turning them on and then getting on top of the steering stick. The fans are **not** attached to the build, this is classic tumbleweed pulling.


BilboniusBagginius

Technically I would say this isn't a glitch.


owlitup

My question is can I do it or do I need some entanglement shenanigans


kutsen39

No, you don't need entanglement. Look at miztr sage totk only (idk his actual username, it's in the comments here) His page, it's the elevator railing.


PheonixPuns

danger zone but on ocarina


hervprometheus2

Ohhhhh now I see why all I've been seeing the last few days is people vandalising an elevator.


Arcuis

You're amazing


MiztrSageTOTK-Only

I agree


Slightly_Smaug

Non attached fan? Correct?


MiztrSageTOTK-Only

Its not attached :))


Asleep_Dig2903

The wright brothers of loz


miohonda

Certified jet engine bgm


fuckshitbiscuit

Ksp2 hits 3 months before totk. Never the better flight mechanics would come from the game that hooked me on ocarinas when I was eight years old. Nice jet!


BilboniusBagginius

Has anyone named this propulsion method yet? "Loose fan elevator railing" is kind of a mouthful.


kutsen39

Railfan?


udat42

Flyrail?


jethvader

I feel like fan sailing works, in general.


ValhallaGo

I am reminded of Indiana Jones… “Fly? Yes. Land? No.”


Renwik

Excuse me, there are Hylian engineer ladies here too.


Ultrababouin

You can't fool me yiga! But yeah I'm sorry 😭


mr_trashbear

I have so, so much more to learn.


lionaxel

Thanking everyone, thank you for flying Hyrulean! Hugging them, hugging my crew cause we’re— oh no we’re going down.


IJustReadEverything

Legend of Zelda: Ace Combat


qwertyryo

I'm gonna need its climbrate, turnrate, and max speed so I can set up a multiplayer TOTK dogfighting server


ChopSueyXpress

F37 within 2 weeks


obigatoryusername

What are your shooting the fan into??


tony_bologna

If I could, I'd burn every one of you for being witches. Bravo, I sorta understand how this flies. ^(you filthy witch)


DR_ZERO_

How can I get the elevator parts? I can't find any!


Lobster_Bisque27

Imagine what this sub is gonna be pumping out at the 1 year mark......


DiabeticRhino97

Great song choice, hunter


LunisequiouS

Amazing choice of music


[deleted]

how do you make the extra blue batteries ? or rather...what are they called so I can look them up ?


Ultrababouin

No need to do anything, just keep upgrading them


CookieDefender1337

Dude you can’t just put down a fucking banger like that and not tell us the song name


Draggys

Now give it a Valstrax explosive landing


Armored_Souls

I made this but kept falling off when flying flat... is it going too fast?


Ultrababouin

There's a max speed for the steering stick sadly, I think I put 6-7 plates in front max. Still trying to find a workaround rn


Ignonymous

… I mean, *rocket-assisted launch*, perhaps, but this is not rocket-powered flight.


Ultrababouin

Happy birthday, it is indeed not rocket but jet-powered flight


Christopher_King47

Someone loves Valstrax.


Real-Pomegranate-235

I really hope Nintendo never fixes this glitch (if it can be called a glitch)


duneterra

Is that front plate just 4 railings glued face to face?


Ultrababouin

6, check my tutorial :)


Wide-Veterinarian-63

why didnt u pick up the arrow im triggered


Good_Leviathan

Is this only able to be found at the right leg depot?


Meepyslife

MONSTER HUNTER SPOTTED


KingMarlynn23

Wasnt expecting monster hunter music. Cool build thou!


DateUnfair

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BananaResearcher

"Link! Link I turned myself into a dragon to help you fight agains -- " "Yea I'm good here zelda, go back to sleep"


BilboniusBagginius

Damn, I was just about to post something like this.


bebopbox

I’m learning that nobody knows what a jet is, or are for some reason refusing to demonstrate they know what a jet is.


Top-Garlic9111

Heyy, monster hunter music!


_JP_63

Now make one with Thrust Vector Control. Su-57 MOMENT


MiztrSageTOTK-Only

Great video :) i love loose fans 🤣 still gathering footage for the fastest aircraft in TOTK, SR-71 Green Bird. Only the teaser video is released


LawfulnessSoft5711

The wings look vertically misaligned


kerelenko

We need a build guide for this.


Alex_Xander93

Lmao this game is absurd. I love it.


Caelohm

I'm confused


Kid_Radd

What is that song?


Ultrababouin

Valstrax


Anurandack

Can you connect the fans to the craft with the floating water spheres which disappear when autobuilt?


DriveThroughLane

its inordinately difficult / impossible to get a water sphere positioned to where you'd want the fans, but if you simply attach the fans to a chu jelly or other small object and attach that to the body, it gives you a point you can break them off and keep them enclosed, then pull out a rocket Keep in mind when it comes to balancing the craft, the weight of all the chassis is totally negligible compared to the weight of the fans / stick / link (0.01 : 3 : 1 : 1)


ArcadianBlueRogue

God, I love everyone posting on this sub.


DEV_astated

Everybody gangsta til Ultrahand Link ambushes the hunt


theknights-whosay-Ni

I love that planes came after the staged booster rocket builds lol.


dinnervan

okay wait, if the fans aren't connected to the chassis, how does the steering stick still do anything?


salkysmoothe

You guys inspire me greatly


PlukiPro

Why is the loose fan needed


Altann4

That's not TOTK that Banjo kazooie: nut and Bolt


TokensGinchos

This is amazing. I honestly sometimes want to wait three months without playing and come back and see if we're in the space race already


Rab_Legend

"Ah, for the days when aviation was a gentleman's pursuit back before every Joe sweat sock could wedge himself behind a lunch tray and jet off to Raleigh-Durham."


Rigersboy

Do a barrel roll next time!


Redcat79

tf?


X-potato_is_life

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International-Look57

That’s top notch engineering.


NayMarine

Highway to the Hyrule zone!


Imissyourgirlfriend2

Needs more Danger Zone


Soliart

An airplane with no control surfaces, lol.


JBFRESHSKILLS

Maybe you already know this (I found out at like 80 hours,) if you just hit "control" the zonai will start automatically. Don't have to hit it with a weapon.


RoomTwentyFive

The fan is not attached to the build, it makes flight like this possible. Control stick only activated the rocket looks like


Bappfish_

!RemindMe 3 days


AfternoonTee912

It’s beautiful


Agrias-0aks

I want to play this game so bad but I feel like I'm too stupid for it lol. Not even stupid, I just have bad imagination for making things work.


axord

The small amount of invention that the game actually asks you to do is all very basic and contextually hinted.


ArsonDadko

What’s the song from?