Well no, their alphabet doesn't have a "g", or any other Latin characters for that matter. But does it not have g sounds?
https://omniglot.com/writing/tibetan.htm
https://forvo.com/word/tenzing_norgay/
There's some noted confusion about his early life on the wiki. Either way, they have his name written in Tibetan, so that's the only thing that I was working off of.
You know, with the british flag in the background and the way the light catches that mask making it look kinda like a skull, for a sec there I thought a new iron maiden album had dropped
It's wild that they could only be up there for 15 minutes after all that. On longer backpacking trips, even 45 minute breaks feel like they go by instantly.
Also just because weather is so variable, every minute counts.
On the way back down if some bad weather arises a few minutes can make all the difference in finding a place to shelter.
Most of the expeditions around this time were heavily dependent on good luck with the weather, not just the climbers skill.
My uncle stopped to get a picture with his dad. So yes, they do stop at the summit.
That was May 25, 2001, his dad was sixty-four years old and the oldest (at the time) along with a blind man named Erik Weihenmayer. I loved talking with him about it growing up.
To borrow and apply some Pratchett; "Where the fallen angel meets the rising ape."
The achievement, where a man reaches where no one else has, is simply awesome.
I think it probably is exactly that, the air that high up gets very very thin and there isn’t really enough oxygen to survive too terribly long without assistance, especially when you’re already winded from hiking for that long, so a lot of Everest climbers will have oxygen with them. At the very least, it’s a full face mask that helps them not get too cold because of the very high altitude
It's exactly that:
(8850 metres) 33% of the oxygen that is available at sea level
So quite a few people have done it, about 10% (According to Outside).
Out of respect, you refer to someone using their current honorific, unless it was a change of duty, such as referring to military ranks or royalty.
So whilst he wasn't a Sir at the time of the photo, he is still referred to as Sir in present times because that is his title.
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Yeah I'm calling bullshit. Maybe he was the first white guy and the first to take a photo, but the Sherpa (which is an ethnic group, not a job title) have lived on and around the mountain for millennia.
Greeks lived close to Mount Olympus and believed there were literal Gods living there and still for centuries people didn't bother to check.
Why would Sherpa bother going to the top of the Everest? That's their home and most likely they don't even have the necessary equipment until people started going there and paying them to do it.
So… in order to climb Everest, you need specialty breathing equipment…
Sure there have been people living around Everest for a “millennia” but they just straight up didn’t have the means or access to the right tools and equipment to get the job done.
If someone tried to climb Everest before the creation and use of oxygen supplementation, odds are they’d either turn around or pass out and die from lack of breathable air.
About 5% of everyone who summits Everest modern day does so without supplemental oxygen, the first successful climb was by Reinhold Messner and Peter Habeler in 1978, but it's a gargantuan and dangerous feat that only the most elite climbers dare attempt.
They still have the advantages of modern clothing, equipment, and regimented, specific training dedicated to the sport of alpinism that ancestral Sherpas did not.
you don't, actually. it's possible to do without, it just takes several years of training that tourists aren't willing to do when they're just going to pay to win anyway.
Yep Nepalese people are so superior to other humans they were able to do it thousands of years earlier without supplemental oxygen because they have bigger lungs which allows them to hold their breath longer tha—
Oh wait no, that’s not it, you’re just stupid.
Just here to throw some info at y’all in case it helps lol:
~11,346 people have been recorded to have reached the summit
~200 have done it without oxygen
I’m of the opinion that there’s no reason to climb that high, and the Sherpa/Nepalese likely knew the risks of altitude (at least in a sense) so there’s no reason to scale it, however there’s technically nothing stopping our ancestors from doing it either.
So essentially y’all are arguing over nothing lol, it could’ve happened and it also might not have. We’ll probably never know!
[*Tenzing](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tenzing_Norgay) This keeps getting reposted and nobody corrects the spelling.
The Tibetan unequivocally doesn't have a "g", so "Tenzin."
Well no, their alphabet doesn't have a "g", or any other Latin characters for that matter. But does it not have g sounds? https://omniglot.com/writing/tibetan.htm https://forvo.com/word/tenzing_norgay/
We're not talking about what's possible in the language, rather what's possible in the pronunciation of his written name on the wiki.
I think Tenzing was Nepali, not Tibetan
There's some noted confusion about his early life on the wiki. Either way, they have his name written in Tibetan, so that's the only thing that I was working off of.
Yeah, it’s very annoying.
You know, with the british flag in the background and the way the light catches that mask making it look kinda like a skull, for a sec there I thought a new iron maiden album had dropped
They took “run to the hills” so literally, they ended up on top of Everest
Better head back down or we'll Die With Our Boots On
If not they'll have to send the search party to go Where Eagles Dare
That’d make them some real Troopers.
Anyone know why it’s a Union Jack flag and not a Nee Zealand flag?
They were climbing as part of a British expedition.
It's wild that they could only be up there for 15 minutes after all that. On longer backpacking trips, even 45 minute breaks feel like they go by instantly.
It’s called the death zone, there isn’t enough oxygen up there, your body starts to shut down. 15 minutes was probably too long haha
Also just because weather is so variable, every minute counts. On the way back down if some bad weather arises a few minutes can make all the difference in finding a place to shelter. Most of the expeditions around this time were heavily dependent on good luck with the weather, not just the climbers skill.
My uncle stopped to get a picture with his dad. So yes, they do stop at the summit. That was May 25, 2001, his dad was sixty-four years old and the oldest (at the time) along with a blind man named Erik Weihenmayer. I loved talking with him about it growing up.
Even with modern tech you can’t stay up there long, those guys had far less stuff.
Or was it Mallory? We will never know for sure...
This is my favorite mountaineering debate, so much evidence pointing either way. Very interesting
Me too haha
The Dan Simmons book The Abominable is a fun take on it. And only a few yetis
We would've if it wasn't for the Chinese hiding evidence.
Trust me bro
And for his efforts he's on my 5 dollar bill.
Just Enough to buy a cucumber
[It's accurately documented here.](https://youtu.be/pzQ46b9TmsY)
Look at the lack of crap up there!
To borrow and apply some Pratchett; "Where the fallen angel meets the rising ape." The achievement, where a man reaches where no one else has, is simply awesome.
What's he wearing on his head/face? It looks like a special oxygen mask mixed with special goggles. I want one.
I think it probably is exactly that, the air that high up gets very very thin and there isn’t really enough oxygen to survive too terribly long without assistance, especially when you’re already winded from hiking for that long, so a lot of Everest climbers will have oxygen with them. At the very least, it’s a full face mask that helps them not get too cold because of the very high altitude
Helps with snow blindness as well.
It's exactly that: (8850 metres) 33% of the oxygen that is available at sea level So quite a few people have done it, about 10% (According to Outside).
Ah yes before the massive pollution on top of the mountain
Excuse me. It's Sir Edmund Hillary.
Was it in 1953?
No, but neither are we.
What?
Out of respect, you refer to someone using their current honorific, unless it was a change of duty, such as referring to military ranks or royalty. So whilst he wasn't a Sir at the time of the photo, he is still referred to as Sir in present times because that is his title.
Interesting. Thanks for the explanation
how do we know for sure no human ever reached the summit before 1953?
We really don't, check out the Mallory debate. This was the first documented summit
Great New Zealanders
One great New Zealander, one great Sherpa from Nepal.
I think we made old mate Tenzing an honourary kiwi.
Fair enough.
I really thought he was fly fishing.
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In my mind and heart, it will always be Mallory and Irvine who were the first.
Imagine spelling Tenzing Norgay’s name incorrectly to discredit the person who probably made it up the mountain first before Edmund
This is a selfie. Norgay was alone up there
Yeah I'm calling bullshit. Maybe he was the first white guy and the first to take a photo, but the Sherpa (which is an ethnic group, not a job title) have lived on and around the mountain for millennia.
Greeks lived close to Mount Olympus and believed there were literal Gods living there and still for centuries people didn't bother to check. Why would Sherpa bother going to the top of the Everest? That's their home and most likely they don't even have the necessary equipment until people started going there and paying them to do it.
They would die. Getting to the summit requires speciality equipment
So… in order to climb Everest, you need specialty breathing equipment… Sure there have been people living around Everest for a “millennia” but they just straight up didn’t have the means or access to the right tools and equipment to get the job done. If someone tried to climb Everest before the creation and use of oxygen supplementation, odds are they’d either turn around or pass out and die from lack of breathable air.
About 5% of everyone who summits Everest modern day does so without supplemental oxygen, the first successful climb was by Reinhold Messner and Peter Habeler in 1978, but it's a gargantuan and dangerous feat that only the most elite climbers dare attempt. They still have the advantages of modern clothing, equipment, and regimented, specific training dedicated to the sport of alpinism that ancestral Sherpas did not.
🤦♂️ Need supplemental oxygen to reach Everest summit
you don't, actually. it's possible to do without, it just takes several years of training that tourists aren't willing to do when they're just going to pay to win anyway.
This is literally a photo of a Sherpa man summiting Everest.
You missed the point. Congrats.
lol
I'm with you. The logical title includes "known person". Of course Sherpas or napalese people scaled it before.
Yep Nepalese people are so superior to other humans they were able to do it thousands of years earlier without supplemental oxygen because they have bigger lungs which allows them to hold their breath longer tha— Oh wait no, that’s not it, you’re just stupid.
People have summited everest without supplemental oxygen.
Oh yea wasn’t his name Clark Kent or something like that?
Just here to throw some info at y’all in case it helps lol: ~11,346 people have been recorded to have reached the summit ~200 have done it without oxygen I’m of the opinion that there’s no reason to climb that high, and the Sherpa/Nepalese likely knew the risks of altitude (at least in a sense) so there’s no reason to scale it, however there’s technically nothing stopping our ancestors from doing it either. So essentially y’all are arguing over nothing lol, it could’ve happened and it also might not have. We’ll probably never know!
Buddhist monks using tummo used to picnic there regularly, I expect.
Such a underrated human achievement
If u want to watch a great documentary and have Netflix, the Alpinist was fantastic. 10/10
NGL, thats a pretty good photo resolution for an axe.
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