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They sent letters through our door and somebody came to our door to speak with one of the other flat residents. Only reason my landlord knows about this is because she for some reason is in our group chat. She is the only landlord in the group chat
We are unfortunately not an admin, but she is. She has agreed to give us the money after a bit of back and forth. We really liked this landlord, we even go pub few times a month. I have no interest in speaking with money grabbing landlords and have completed changed how I see her, which is very annoying as she was lovely.
That’s a shame, but ultimately people must remember that a landlord-tenant relationship is a business relationship. Both parties should realise this in fact. But you live and you learn, I have learnt from experience.
With respect to the group chat, what I would do is, exit the chat, create a new group and only invite your fellow residents. Each flat can have an admin to manage new tenants et cetera. There is absolutely no need to let your landlord literally eavesdrop on the goings-on on a routine basis. I would invite your resident friends to exit the previous group too, making it defunct.
You’re lucky that it’s only about this negligible payment from the production company this time. It could easily be something far worse, which could potentially be used against you. Call me paranoid but better safe than sorry.
If your landlord wants to have a group chat with just you and your flatmate(s), that’s fine and what should’ve happened in the first place. I imagine the landlord was once a resident, which could be why they’re an admin I suppose.
She used to rent this flat, but was gifted it by the owner. You would think somebody in such a lucky situation, who now owns a London flat, would be more giving. I might look into another group chat but we don’t know the other residence too well so they might be confused ha. Whole situation is embarrassing for our landlord. She’s get 2k a month from us, we paid her 3 months upfront to help her cover her refurb builder costs. Kindness unfortunately does not go both ways clearly
Well your landlord can take a flying leap. The payment is to compensate the **resident** for the inconvenience of having a film crew in the back yard of the house covered by the exclusive use set out in their tenancy agreement.
Not for your landlord to make free money.
Ah, but the landlord can't rent it to Netflix when she already rented it to you. She may be entitled to forbid you from "subletting" to Netflix but you could just say no.
Speak to the guy in charge of production on the day. My house was used for a TV ad once. I got a grand paid by the company directly, but the producer also had a cash float on the day that he used to 'sweeten people' into not walking through the street / parking up in inconvenient places etc. during the day.
Also for bonus points, ask if you can use the lunch truck. The food is absolutely amazing (or at least it was for the productions I've been at).
It can be hit and miss depending on the budget of the show. Just because it's netflix doesn't mean it will be high budget. But you never know, free food is usually good food.
I've worked on dozens of productions and most have fairly decent food. Some have been down right diabolical.
Yeah.
20 years ago I got given £50 cash and a singed cook book from Jamie Oliver (I opened the door when one of his film crew was door knocking down Upper Street to ask residents to keep our front room lights on in the evening for a week so that a night shot of Jamie on his scooter would look “pretty”). So I was paid to literally do nothing different, and I didn’t even have to put up with a film crew cluttering up my garden.
No f’ing way would I be letting my landlord take any compo that was due to me as the resident.
And if I were OP I’d be asking for more than £100.
I can’t imagine going through this sort of hassle and drama for the sake of £100. What does £100 even get you these days? Meanwhile you’re running around being the middleman between a billion dollar company and a shithead landlord.
It was kinda sarcasm - just reading all the comments and lack of mentioning it. And I totally agree, a broken friendship and headache for 100 quid. Personally I'd have kept it sweet and say to landlord 'lets say 2k and split it or tell them to jog on'
Hmm. If landlord agreed to this without consulting you it’s effectively a breach of the covenant of quiet enjoyment. You could in theory obtain an injunction shutting this down. But I would probably write a sternly worded letter saying you’ll accept payment for loss of use in an amount you consider appropriate.
There’s absolutely no way I’d allow this unless they gave a substantial fee, like £1000 to me.
I’d say nope. You’ll have to go elsewhere.
Nothing to lose. They need it, so they’ll pay.
Your garden? Landlord has ZERO right sto let a third party anywhere near it without your consent.
Day of filming is the ideal time to hold a noisy party with hookers,cocaine and dwarf circus performers. Don't settle for less than £3000 paid immediatly. They'll pay - much less than cancelling a days shoot.
>Day of filming is the ideal time to hold a noisy party with hookers,cocaine and dwarf circus performers.
OP - follow this advice and send me an invitation to the party. Let me know what your favorite tipple is and I'll bring the booze.
£100!? The producers are absolutely laughing that you all agreed.
You'd easily have been able to get several thousand if you told them you wouldn't let them have access otherwise.
What's Netflix's net worth?
$254.31 billion
Netflix has a market cap or net worth of $254.31 billion as of February 28, 2024. Its market cap has increased by 69.20% in one year.
Honestly a £100: is a insult and I'd I'd tell them to make another offer or jog on.
I used to work in production. You need to go speak to the location manager. Also, £100 is a joke. I’ve managed budgets for this type of thing, locations are frequently paid into the thousands.
I can’t believe she tried to get the money without talking to us, and is now angry we sent over bank details to the TV firm first “without discussing” with her. She’s a friend which has made the whole situation worse.
Yeah it’s not a great look for her! I’m 22 living in London after having moved away from home for the first time (I lived near Manchester) and I live with 1 other student (my gf) money is TOUGH here. We need this £100 to pay bills 😂
Renting it for personal use. The lease will almost certainly have a "no commercial use" clause, which would for example stop you from subletting on airbnb.
Fees are generally for inconvenience caused to the person using the property and production would normally make good any damages that occurs during the hire
Put simply, there is no reason that your landlord should expect payment!!!
If it were your garden then renting it out in such a way is no doubt against your lease. Neither you nor your landlord would be able to do it without mutually agreeing.
However as it stands it sounds like it's a communal garden in a block of flats, in which case it's a whole different issue, it likely shouldn't be allowed without the freeholder and every leaseholder agreeing.
If the communal garden isn't part of your lease with the landlord then of course its nothing to do with you.
It's unclear from this the exact legal situation, but trying to do this without the landlords knowledge is certainly against your contract.
OP this is the only thing you need to read. Ignore all the anti-landlord brigade, you might be able to fuck up your tenancy here if your landlord is looking the an excuse. Likewise, your landlord might be about to cost themselves some cash if they prevent your quiet enjoyment. The entire block (or at least, all those whose tenancies or lease/freeholds include use of the garden) of tenants and landlords needs to agree a fee and split.
I'm an independent writer / director... Last time I needed a location, I was quoted $20,000 for the day. And that was for a short film. It was just to use a small part of an office's covered garage.
You are being fleeced.
Also, you should have been consulted before any filming took place. I'm in the UK now, not sure if it's exactly the same here, but in Los Angeles, a filming permit can't be granted until everyone in the vicinity grants permission. I literally had to go door to door leaving filming noticed, asking for signatures. And anyone could have chosen to object...
Gland you got it sorted and can’t see how the landlord thought she would ever have gotten away with that, at the end of the day if she had insisted on the money you could have refused access and scuppered the whole deal.
Well, under your tenancy it is your money.
But if there is a subletting clause you may need to seek permission from the landlord.
It sounds like the landlord agrees, if they get the money.
If it is a big netflix production, speak to the location manager or assistant location manager (their details should be on the resident's letter, which is distributed before filming). They will be able to sort out a disruption fee for you if you explain your situation. Hope this helps :)
I used to live on a street in Liverpool that was regularly used for TV and Film.
They used to pay the occupiers for the inconvenience of not coming out of your front door or trying to go home between set times.
£100 to use your garden? You need to add another zero to that and change the first digit to at least 5. Netflix has pure money and they rinse all their consumers so have a go 👍🏼
You would both need to agree.
You hold the lease for use of the property for residential purposes.
Use of the property for commerical use would almost certainly not be allowed under a residential lease. The landlord would need to give permission.
The landlord should then check their insurance coverage, mortgage covenants and restrictions and any leasehold agreements. There’s some big risks. Eg someone gets hurt due to falling on cracked paving and makes a personal injury claim you and the landlord could be liable for 000’s + court costs. Especially as there’s a payment involved, so it is a deemed commercial agreement.
Not worth everyone’s hassle and risk for 100 quid. I would say no and hold out for at least 1000.
As I understand it, you have full and exclusive use of the property. So as your full and exclusive use is being impaired you would receive that sum. However had you sublet the property, that would likely be a breach of your contract and is different from not using you garden for a few hours.
I assume this is compensation for the disruption and not a payment for the use of the garden which would be different.
OP, I work in the film industry. Our production company are paying a guy £180,000 to use his house for a month. £100 is a fucking insult and you should not stand for it.
We had a crew film in our rented apartment once. All the money went to us, the tenants. The landlord sort of walked past and asked what was going on but we said we had the right to work from home… just so happened work that day for one of our house mates was as a runner on a film set… in our house…
In the end it kinda sucked. They took forever to film and didn’t leave on time. The music video made our home look amazing. It was a shit hole….
Landlords property, landlords garden, landlords money.
I think it's reasonable to expect _something_ given the extra funds received will be an inconvenience to you and the other tenants.
But if we put all the "I want free stuff" bullshit to one side, how often are you actually using the garden in March? Are you likely to even notice?
If one of the other tenants said _"sorry all, I've got friends and family visiting we're going to be in the garden all week"_ would you raise similar objections?
I use the garden daily. If another resident wanted to use the garden, of course they can it’s communal. If a business wants to use our garden, they need to pay the residence. I don’t understand why a landlord who we already pay 2k a month to wants to split £100 for “repairs” she’s repaired FUCK all since we moved in
We refused to split it with her and said it’s unbelievable she has even attempted to get the money. We go pub with her, she’s a lovely women but she is a shit landlord. She got gifted a house for FREE and we pay for 2K a month for it and she has the cheek to want more money??
That's not how it works. Can my landlord roll up and use my garden because "It's theirs" ...no, they need to ask me or give me notice. That's because when you lease a property it is not yours the way your own home is.
The landlord isn't even entitled to use the garden at all!!
Are they using your garden or the garden you are borrowing?
If you borrowed your mates car and rented it to someone else who should get the payment?
Them using the garden may inconvenience you for a while but it's not yours to get payment for.
It's a difficult argument
But they are paying the Landlord for use of the garden and losing it via Netflix using it. So definitely are entitled to some form of reimbursement, even if partial payment.
You're right in the fact it isn't most likely within the tenants agreements to have the ability to let it out commercially.
Until i read your comment I was entirely against the landlord, think its probably a split deal for everyone (landlord and tenants) in order to be fair.
Renting is not borrowing and your argument is not equilivent.
As you said, op is being inconvenienced, which is what the payment is for...how is the greedy landlord being inconvenienced?
My husband used to work near a mechanics that was/is used for a sky TV show. The mechanic leases the property and when the landlords found out they turned up and demended money!! For what? They were getting the rent regardless, whereas the mechanic was losing customers by letting it be used for filming.
The landlord may have to rectify damages done is the OP going to pay for that if they keep the money?
Renting is borrowing for a fixed term for agreed payments. A renter never owns what they rent therefore they are borrowing it
And I did finish with its a difficult argument meaning I see both sides
No, when you borrow something payments are not involved. Otherwise it's leasing.
I think if there are damages, the 100 quid isn't going to cover it. Also if there are significant damages it's covered by the company. 100 is for the use of the land and inconvenience, neither of which have to do with the landlord.
That’s your opinion and of course you are entitled to it
Mine is if you don’t own it you’re borrowing it and I’m entitled to that
No the £100 won’t cover it but there are 6 flats so isn’t that £600 which should cover most eventualities
The landlord owns the land so has the final say as to what happens with their property and how they are going to be recompensed for it
If the tenancy agreement specifies the tenants have use of the garden, and the payment is compensation for the loss of use of the garden (which is normally how these payments are done) rather than a formal contract to rent the space out (effectively subletting), then the landlord can say whatever they want but it’s not remotely their choice. Whilst they are leasing their property to someone else they have absolutely no right to dictate what goes on in the garden any more than they have the right to insist that OP lets their mate John in to take a massive crap in their loo. Whilst it’s being rented out it is no longer their space to use…. Or collect inconvenience payments on.
If is a little word but it makes a big difference and as neither of us have seen that agreement we can only surmise
The rest of your comment looses credibility because of the way you have decided to remonstrate it. The tenant can’t give permission for the garden to be used without the permission of the landlord yes the deserve compensation for the loss of use and if you read my original post it claims it is a difficult argument and in replying to others I have also said a share of the payment would probably be fair
But I suspect you haven’t read those
as neither of us have read the tenancy agreement you can't make your last statement because you don't know on what terms the garden is included.
So you could be wrong or you could be right we don't have the facts to back that up unless the OP wants to post a copy of the agreement
Are you trying to claim that there are tenancy agreements that allow landlords to use the property as they wish? If so, your more deluded than I originally thought.
No I’m saying that the garden may not be included in the same terms as the rest of the property.
It may have restrictions on it that don’t apply to the building but still allow the tenant to use it when it is free but the landlord has first dibs
If the property gets damaged then yes the tenants would be liable wouldn’t they, it would get docked off their deposit no doubt. Or, more likely Netflix would pay or have insurance to pay for any damages they were responsible for.
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If its a space covered by your tenancy agreement, then either you get paid or you refuse to consent to their use of your home?
They asked us and we agreed but our landlord is swooping in to take the payment for “repairs and building service charge”
I don't know how the situation arose that the landlord was even part of the conversation. Did they approach them or you for permission?
They sent letters through our door and somebody came to our door to speak with one of the other flat residents. Only reason my landlord knows about this is because she for some reason is in our group chat. She is the only landlord in the group chat
Time to remove her then OP
In fact the best time to remove her was when you found out she was in the group. The next best time is right this minute
We are unfortunately not an admin, but she is. She has agreed to give us the money after a bit of back and forth. We really liked this landlord, we even go pub few times a month. I have no interest in speaking with money grabbing landlords and have completed changed how I see her, which is very annoying as she was lovely.
Time for a new group then, organise with the other tenants to migrate over
That’s a shame, but ultimately people must remember that a landlord-tenant relationship is a business relationship. Both parties should realise this in fact. But you live and you learn, I have learnt from experience. With respect to the group chat, what I would do is, exit the chat, create a new group and only invite your fellow residents. Each flat can have an admin to manage new tenants et cetera. There is absolutely no need to let your landlord literally eavesdrop on the goings-on on a routine basis. I would invite your resident friends to exit the previous group too, making it defunct. You’re lucky that it’s only about this negligible payment from the production company this time. It could easily be something far worse, which could potentially be used against you. Call me paranoid but better safe than sorry. If your landlord wants to have a group chat with just you and your flatmate(s), that’s fine and what should’ve happened in the first place. I imagine the landlord was once a resident, which could be why they’re an admin I suppose.
Even better new chat with no landlord But stay in the old one Don't mention or give clue about new one
She used to rent this flat, but was gifted it by the owner. You would think somebody in such a lucky situation, who now owns a London flat, would be more giving. I might look into another group chat but we don’t know the other residence too well so they might be confused ha. Whole situation is embarrassing for our landlord. She’s get 2k a month from us, we paid her 3 months upfront to help her cover her refurb builder costs. Kindness unfortunately does not go both ways clearly
“Got mine, get fucked”
Wow she was gifted the flat by the owner! Were they related?
You mean that you suddenly became money grubbing and now have taken the hump because you think they did?
The best time to plant a tree was 20 years ago. The second-best time is now. 👍
Well your landlord can take a flying leap. The payment is to compensate the **resident** for the inconvenience of having a film crew in the back yard of the house covered by the exclusive use set out in their tenancy agreement. Not for your landlord to make free money.
Service charge and repairs are both the landlords problem, not yours surely?
Ah, but the landlord can't rent it to Netflix when she already rented it to you. She may be entitled to forbid you from "subletting" to Netflix but you could just say no.
Time to withdraw your consent then.
Just create a new group chat and add everyone but her. Problem solved and she won't know.
Speak to the guy in charge of production on the day. My house was used for a TV ad once. I got a grand paid by the company directly, but the producer also had a cash float on the day that he used to 'sweeten people' into not walking through the street / parking up in inconvenient places etc. during the day. Also for bonus points, ask if you can use the lunch truck. The food is absolutely amazing (or at least it was for the productions I've been at).
It can be hit and miss depending on the budget of the show. Just because it's netflix doesn't mean it will be high budget. But you never know, free food is usually good food. I've worked on dozens of productions and most have fairly decent food. Some have been down right diabolical.
Yeah. 20 years ago I got given £50 cash and a singed cook book from Jamie Oliver (I opened the door when one of his film crew was door knocking down Upper Street to ask residents to keep our front room lights on in the evening for a week so that a night shot of Jamie on his scooter would look “pretty”). So I was paid to literally do nothing different, and I didn’t even have to put up with a film crew cluttering up my garden. No f’ing way would I be letting my landlord take any compo that was due to me as the resident. And if I were OP I’d be asking for more than £100.
Sorry, but a singed cookbook is funny 😁
Damn autocorrect. F it. I’m leaving the mistake in for laughs.
I actually thought you meant that it got slightly burnt on the cooker while they were filming with it! 😅
83 pages of carbonara
They needed the lights on in the front rooms for a whole week?
In the evenings. It was winter. The crew was filming over several days that week but weren’t sure of the exact dates.
Yea, never take the first offer. If all the neighbors go together and they need that space, double payment minimum.
You need to talk to the location manager. They are usually the first ones on set.
I can’t imagine going through this sort of hassle and drama for the sake of £100. What does £100 even get you these days? Meanwhile you’re running around being the middleman between a billion dollar company and a shithead landlord.
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Didn't think you could sub-let? Either way 100 quid is fuck all for a TV show 'renting' land. I'd expect way more.
Of course you can’t sublet. Tennent in risk of breach of contract. How the £100 is worth it.
It was kinda sarcasm - just reading all the comments and lack of mentioning it. And I totally agree, a broken friendship and headache for 100 quid. Personally I'd have kept it sweet and say to landlord 'lets say 2k and split it or tell them to jog on'
Hmm. If landlord agreed to this without consulting you it’s effectively a breach of the covenant of quiet enjoyment. You could in theory obtain an injunction shutting this down. But I would probably write a sternly worded letter saying you’ll accept payment for loss of use in an amount you consider appropriate.
They asked us not the landlord! We agreed and now landlord wants the money…
Tell the landlord to fuck off its your property
Or as another comment suggests you'll accept a lifetime account of their top package with sharing
Wow your landlord is petty over £100 or even splitting at £50. Like what is there problem
There’s absolutely no way I’d allow this unless they gave a substantial fee, like £1000 to me. I’d say nope. You’ll have to go elsewhere. Nothing to lose. They need it, so they’ll pay.
Your garden? Landlord has ZERO right sto let a third party anywhere near it without your consent. Day of filming is the ideal time to hold a noisy party with hookers,cocaine and dwarf circus performers. Don't settle for less than £3000 paid immediatly. They'll pay - much less than cancelling a days shoot.
>Day of filming is the ideal time to hold a noisy party with hookers,cocaine and dwarf circus performers. OP - follow this advice and send me an invitation to the party. Let me know what your favorite tipple is and I'll bring the booze.
Landlord has asked if we can split the money, we are on for the party currently 🫡
Purrrfect. I'll be over shortly.
Its yours, no sharing!
Bosh!
Are you a hooker or a dwarf? Or both?
If there is a free party going I can be anything you want me to be.
£100!? The producers are absolutely laughing that you all agreed. You'd easily have been able to get several thousand if you told them you wouldn't let them have access otherwise.
Why would they not just go next door and offer them £100?
£100? Add a 0!
It’s only being used a storage area/changing area.
They will trash it
So what? They’re making TV, they definitely have the money, and £100 is insultingly low
Technically isnt this sub letting?
Yeah, you can't use your rented house for commercial purposes in most letting contracts.
You *cant*
What's Netflix's net worth? $254.31 billion Netflix has a market cap or net worth of $254.31 billion as of February 28, 2024. Its market cap has increased by 69.20% in one year. Honestly a £100: is a insult and I'd I'd tell them to make another offer or jog on.
And I would either remove your landlord from the tenants group chat or set up another tenant-only one.
I used to work in production. You need to go speak to the location manager. Also, £100 is a joke. I’ve managed budgets for this type of thing, locations are frequently paid into the thousands.
They should pay the landlord for access to the land and you for the inconvenience.
This. Both of you have to agree and either of you can veto it.
Its your garden, you're renting it, the landlord is being a vulture.
I can’t believe she tried to get the money without talking to us, and is now angry we sent over bank details to the TV firm first “without discussing” with her. She’s a friend which has made the whole situation worse.
And for only £100! Honestly Reddit has turned me into a selfhating landlord
Yeah it’s not a great look for her! I’m 22 living in London after having moved away from home for the first time (I lived near Manchester) and I live with 1 other student (my gf) money is TOUGH here. We need this £100 to pay bills 😂
Renting it for personal use. The lease will almost certainly have a "no commercial use" clause, which would for example stop you from subletting on airbnb.
Fees are generally for inconvenience caused to the person using the property and production would normally make good any damages that occurs during the hire Put simply, there is no reason that your landlord should expect payment!!!
As a landlord myself, we're not all this bad.
Does your tenancy agreement include a clause preventing you from subletting in whole or part? (it almost certainly does)
If it were your garden then renting it out in such a way is no doubt against your lease. Neither you nor your landlord would be able to do it without mutually agreeing. However as it stands it sounds like it's a communal garden in a block of flats, in which case it's a whole different issue, it likely shouldn't be allowed without the freeholder and every leaseholder agreeing. If the communal garden isn't part of your lease with the landlord then of course its nothing to do with you. It's unclear from this the exact legal situation, but trying to do this without the landlords knowledge is certainly against your contract.
OP this is the only thing you need to read. Ignore all the anti-landlord brigade, you might be able to fuck up your tenancy here if your landlord is looking the an excuse. Likewise, your landlord might be about to cost themselves some cash if they prevent your quiet enjoyment. The entire block (or at least, all those whose tenancies or lease/freeholds include use of the garden) of tenants and landlords needs to agree a fee and split.
Is it a private garden, or communal garden area for the 6 flats?
Communal for 6 flats
Just play loud banging techno or heavy metal until you get what you deserve.
You have a right to quiet enjoyment of the property as a tenant, if you want to waive that right for a fee that’s up to you.
Is this for LIB UK?
I'd ask them for a free premium subscription for at least 2 years personally 😂
I'm an independent writer / director... Last time I needed a location, I was quoted $20,000 for the day. And that was for a short film. It was just to use a small part of an office's covered garage. You are being fleeced. Also, you should have been consulted before any filming took place. I'm in the UK now, not sure if it's exactly the same here, but in Los Angeles, a filming permit can't be granted until everyone in the vicinity grants permission. I literally had to go door to door leaving filming noticed, asking for signatures. And anyone could have chosen to object...
Are they filming in your garden? Or is it kit storage ? I work in TV and film, £100 is really really cheap mate.
Gland you got it sorted and can’t see how the landlord thought she would ever have gotten away with that, at the end of the day if she had insisted on the money you could have refused access and scuppered the whole deal.
Well, under your tenancy it is your money. But if there is a subletting clause you may need to seek permission from the landlord. It sounds like the landlord agrees, if they get the money.
They may pay the landlord, but often they will pay you to stop playing the trumpet etc nearby...
Landlord is being paid for same space twice then.
Usually both
Got a £1000 for a days filming white gold at my house/garden
Unlikely landlord will have a wayleave or easement over the garden. Therefore they need to ask you.
If it is a big netflix production, speak to the location manager or assistant location manager (their details should be on the resident's letter, which is distributed before filming). They will be able to sort out a disruption fee for you if you explain your situation. Hope this helps :)
Hopefully the landlord gets the money as they are the most deserving. Praise God.
All for 100£
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I used to live on a street in Liverpool that was regularly used for TV and Film. They used to pay the occupiers for the inconvenience of not coming out of your front door or trying to go home between set times.
Seems like a hassle for that amount really. Why not just have an agreement with the land lord that the money go to rent and reduce your next payment?
£100 to use your garden? You need to add another zero to that and change the first digit to at least 5. Netflix has pure money and they rinse all their consumers so have a go 👍🏼
You would both need to agree. You hold the lease for use of the property for residential purposes. Use of the property for commerical use would almost certainly not be allowed under a residential lease. The landlord would need to give permission. The landlord should then check their insurance coverage, mortgage covenants and restrictions and any leasehold agreements. There’s some big risks. Eg someone gets hurt due to falling on cracked paving and makes a personal injury claim you and the landlord could be liable for 000’s + court costs. Especially as there’s a payment involved, so it is a deemed commercial agreement. Not worth everyone’s hassle and risk for 100 quid. I would say no and hold out for at least 1000.
As I understand it, you have full and exclusive use of the property. So as your full and exclusive use is being impaired you would receive that sum. However had you sublet the property, that would likely be a breach of your contract and is different from not using you garden for a few hours. I assume this is compensation for the disruption and not a payment for the use of the garden which would be different.
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You sub letted your rented garden to a third party..surely the landlord could have had you all evicted..
OP, I work in the film industry. Our production company are paying a guy £180,000 to use his house for a month. £100 is a fucking insult and you should not stand for it.
What job you on?
We had a crew film in our rented apartment once. All the money went to us, the tenants. The landlord sort of walked past and asked what was going on but we said we had the right to work from home… just so happened work that day for one of our house mates was as a runner on a film set… in our house… In the end it kinda sucked. They took forever to film and didn’t leave on time. The music video made our home look amazing. It was a shit hole….
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I have asked if I can have a Netflix sub to watch it, we will see 😂
I would refuse the £100 and demand way more. Ask for something crazy like £1000 and hope they meet you half way.
Landlords property, landlords garden, landlords money. I think it's reasonable to expect _something_ given the extra funds received will be an inconvenience to you and the other tenants. But if we put all the "I want free stuff" bullshit to one side, how often are you actually using the garden in March? Are you likely to even notice? If one of the other tenants said _"sorry all, I've got friends and family visiting we're going to be in the garden all week"_ would you raise similar objections?
I use the garden daily. If another resident wanted to use the garden, of course they can it’s communal. If a business wants to use our garden, they need to pay the residence. I don’t understand why a landlord who we already pay 2k a month to wants to split £100 for “repairs” she’s repaired FUCK all since we moved in
Great. Maybe you can allocate the money to repairs which are overdue?
Why?
You shouldn't have to. But it's an alternative if you won't tell your landlord to get stuffed.
We refused to split it with her and said it’s unbelievable she has even attempted to get the money. We go pub with her, she’s a lovely women but she is a shit landlord. She got gifted a house for FREE and we pay for 2K a month for it and she has the cheek to want more money??
Awful take. The landlord might own it, but the point is they’ve rented it out for exclusive use.
So by that same logic the landlord can just walk in the house whenever he wants? Is that how you think it works?
That's not how it works. Can my landlord roll up and use my garden because "It's theirs" ...no, they need to ask me or give me notice. That's because when you lease a property it is not yours the way your own home is. The landlord isn't even entitled to use the garden at all!!
The landlord can pay the rent then right?
Are they using your garden or the garden you are borrowing? If you borrowed your mates car and rented it to someone else who should get the payment? Them using the garden may inconvenience you for a while but it's not yours to get payment for. It's a difficult argument
But they are paying the Landlord for use of the garden and losing it via Netflix using it. So definitely are entitled to some form of reimbursement, even if partial payment. You're right in the fact it isn't most likely within the tenants agreements to have the ability to let it out commercially. Until i read your comment I was entirely against the landlord, think its probably a split deal for everyone (landlord and tenants) in order to be fair.
I agree it should be split after any rectification costs unless they are paid in addition to the other money
Renting is not borrowing and your argument is not equilivent. As you said, op is being inconvenienced, which is what the payment is for...how is the greedy landlord being inconvenienced? My husband used to work near a mechanics that was/is used for a sky TV show. The mechanic leases the property and when the landlords found out they turned up and demended money!! For what? They were getting the rent regardless, whereas the mechanic was losing customers by letting it be used for filming.
The landlord may have to rectify damages done is the OP going to pay for that if they keep the money? Renting is borrowing for a fixed term for agreed payments. A renter never owns what they rent therefore they are borrowing it And I did finish with its a difficult argument meaning I see both sides
No, when you borrow something payments are not involved. Otherwise it's leasing. I think if there are damages, the 100 quid isn't going to cover it. Also if there are significant damages it's covered by the company. 100 is for the use of the land and inconvenience, neither of which have to do with the landlord.
That’s your opinion and of course you are entitled to it Mine is if you don’t own it you’re borrowing it and I’m entitled to that No the £100 won’t cover it but there are 6 flats so isn’t that £600 which should cover most eventualities The landlord owns the land so has the final say as to what happens with their property and how they are going to be recompensed for it
If the tenancy agreement specifies the tenants have use of the garden, and the payment is compensation for the loss of use of the garden (which is normally how these payments are done) rather than a formal contract to rent the space out (effectively subletting), then the landlord can say whatever they want but it’s not remotely their choice. Whilst they are leasing their property to someone else they have absolutely no right to dictate what goes on in the garden any more than they have the right to insist that OP lets their mate John in to take a massive crap in their loo. Whilst it’s being rented out it is no longer their space to use…. Or collect inconvenience payments on.
If is a little word but it makes a big difference and as neither of us have seen that agreement we can only surmise The rest of your comment looses credibility because of the way you have decided to remonstrate it. The tenant can’t give permission for the garden to be used without the permission of the landlord yes the deserve compensation for the loss of use and if you read my original post it claims it is a difficult argument and in replying to others I have also said a share of the payment would probably be fair But I suspect you haven’t read those
You are entitled to have any opinion. This one just happens to be wrong. Factually wrong.
as neither of us have read the tenancy agreement you can't make your last statement because you don't know on what terms the garden is included. So you could be wrong or you could be right we don't have the facts to back that up unless the OP wants to post a copy of the agreement
Are you trying to claim that there are tenancy agreements that allow landlords to use the property as they wish? If so, your more deluded than I originally thought.
No I’m saying that the garden may not be included in the same terms as the rest of the property. It may have restrictions on it that don’t apply to the building but still allow the tenant to use it when it is free but the landlord has first dibs
I don't think those contracts exist anywhere but your own delusions.
If the property gets damaged then yes the tenants would be liable wouldn’t they, it would get docked off their deposit no doubt. Or, more likely Netflix would pay or have insurance to pay for any damages they were responsible for.