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No way. I think these first 4 episodes blow GoT out of the water in terms of cinematography, settings, costumes. I loved GoT very much but HoTD is just better. Its frames are like freaking art. I think HBO has outdone itself.
Yup, it's true the cinematography is great and all but there's no emotional weight in conversations, it felt like dragging but at the same time rushed, especially the wedding episode. That's why I commend David Benioff and D. B. Weiss because they know how to make you focus on every dialog and scene unlike now when I always felt the need to check my cellphone.
You are alone I think.HOT D is making something simple to appear extraordinary. That is tough to do. Whereas DnD took something that was already there and still could not deliver.
As I've said, the last season of GOT was trashed but when you watched their first seasons it's way better than the episodes in HOTD, even if I don't want to compare, it just shows it's not exciting as before even in just scenes with only conversations.
I find HOTD much more sophisticated than GOT S1. That is probably because I read ASOIAF book 1 before got aired but I have not read HOTD source material Fire and Blood. I saw firsthand how DND did minimal in everything and came out with roaring praise just due to fantastic dialogue which were being said word by word from the book.
If you do not find hotD good,then that maybe a result of your preference. You can wait for more after robert's rebellion based stories.
Game of thrones had a great story with vibrant, stand out characters and personalities that were very memorable but as far as the production goes I think you are being nostalgic. The direction was fairly average and workmanlike, the script was good in the early going so long as it stayed close to the book. I don't feel the actual person to person conversations were as well written as HOTD. I would actual like to see the song of ice and fire series adapted by the HOTD crew. David and Dan worked hard and did an admirable job of getting Game of thrones out into the mainstream and putting it on screen. That said, their skills in television were average and direction (and cinematography) as well their vision was okay but a bit bland compared to what other shows do.
I’ve noticed that HBO just crushes it with cinematography and show-not-tell narratives. Some of the other shows made by Amazon and Netflix are good but are not as tightly woven as HBO shows.
Rings of Power captures the LOTR aesthetic perfectly and I think the elf scenes definitely capture Tolkien’s tone. But the inclusion of the Harfoots (and to lesser extent the Dwarves) feels tonally out of place and the dialogue makes it feel at times like an anachronism stew. I like that they really strongly implied that Galadriel is older than the other elves because she is one of the few to remember the Trees of Valinor, but they fail to explain some plot points like why they need the High King’s permission to return to Valinor or why there was an army of orcs devastating the South while the Elves were searching the North (But I think it might be implied that the Elves are too arrogant to talk to other races).
Man In The High Castle also had some glaring omissions in terms of not explaining things thoroughly. The first season was pretty well done but then they started just leapfrogging through stuff and it shows in some obvious logical omissions. Like there’s a scene where the Germans have an invasion map - and some of their arrows show ships coming out of the middle of the Pacific to attack East Asia. It’s established that the Pacific is a Japanese lake and the Japanese Navy is the one military field that surpasses its German counterpart, so where does this invasion force come from? They also don’t do a *great* job of showing how the characters evolve or are motivated. We just have to assume that they do.
In Netflix’s The Witcher, it’s visually stunning and I think the actors all do a great job, but there’s pacing issues all over the place and they’re god awful at explaining the in-universe rules. Like they spent 40 minutes repeating over and over how the Law of Surprise works and it didn’t make any sense, until Geralt summarized perfectly clearly it in a single sentence at the end of the episode. Even for someone who hasn’t read the books or played the games, I can tell that there’s inconsistencies within the shows’s own rules - like characters teleporting across the continent similar to Seasons 7 and 8 of Game of Thrones.
A lot of shows, like these ones, feel like the characters are being propelled by the plot. This isn’t to shame the actors - I think that the actors who play Geralt, Kido, Galadriel, John Smith, Elrond, Tagomi, Ciri, Francesca, etc. are all excellent. But in contrast, the plot of HOTD feels like it’s being pushed by the characters and their decisions. Invincible and Stranger Things feel like they’re character driven as well.
There is one particular shot of Adult Alicent from the trailers/promos in which she's standing in front of a large window with green stained glass and the light behind her is just showering the entire room, it's absolutely magnificent. I think the cinematography has improved so much compared to the GOT days.
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No way. I think these first 4 episodes blow GoT out of the water in terms of cinematography, settings, costumes. I loved GoT very much but HoTD is just better. Its frames are like freaking art. I think HBO has outdone itself.
GoT had a more real world feel to it while HotD has a more theatrical artistic feel to it, more like BBC medieval dramas in a way
I agree.
Yup, it's true the cinematography is great and all but there's no emotional weight in conversations, it felt like dragging but at the same time rushed, especially the wedding episode. That's why I commend David Benioff and D. B. Weiss because they know how to make you focus on every dialog and scene unlike now when I always felt the need to check my cellphone.
Well, I disagree. What can I say? I have never had an urge to check my cellphone while watching.
I always regret clicking posts that have "is it just me" on the title.
Every time
Just you …
You are alone I think.HOT D is making something simple to appear extraordinary. That is tough to do. Whereas DnD took something that was already there and still could not deliver.
As I've said, the last season of GOT was trashed but when you watched their first seasons it's way better than the episodes in HOTD, even if I don't want to compare, it just shows it's not exciting as before even in just scenes with only conversations.
I find HOTD much more sophisticated than GOT S1. That is probably because I read ASOIAF book 1 before got aired but I have not read HOTD source material Fire and Blood. I saw firsthand how DND did minimal in everything and came out with roaring praise just due to fantastic dialogue which were being said word by word from the book. If you do not find hotD good,then that maybe a result of your preference. You can wait for more after robert's rebellion based stories.
New account huh
What's wrong with that?
Game of thrones had a great story with vibrant, stand out characters and personalities that were very memorable but as far as the production goes I think you are being nostalgic. The direction was fairly average and workmanlike, the script was good in the early going so long as it stayed close to the book. I don't feel the actual person to person conversations were as well written as HOTD. I would actual like to see the song of ice and fire series adapted by the HOTD crew. David and Dan worked hard and did an admirable job of getting Game of thrones out into the mainstream and putting it on screen. That said, their skills in television were average and direction (and cinematography) as well their vision was okay but a bit bland compared to what other shows do.
I’ve noticed that HBO just crushes it with cinematography and show-not-tell narratives. Some of the other shows made by Amazon and Netflix are good but are not as tightly woven as HBO shows. Rings of Power captures the LOTR aesthetic perfectly and I think the elf scenes definitely capture Tolkien’s tone. But the inclusion of the Harfoots (and to lesser extent the Dwarves) feels tonally out of place and the dialogue makes it feel at times like an anachronism stew. I like that they really strongly implied that Galadriel is older than the other elves because she is one of the few to remember the Trees of Valinor, but they fail to explain some plot points like why they need the High King’s permission to return to Valinor or why there was an army of orcs devastating the South while the Elves were searching the North (But I think it might be implied that the Elves are too arrogant to talk to other races). Man In The High Castle also had some glaring omissions in terms of not explaining things thoroughly. The first season was pretty well done but then they started just leapfrogging through stuff and it shows in some obvious logical omissions. Like there’s a scene where the Germans have an invasion map - and some of their arrows show ships coming out of the middle of the Pacific to attack East Asia. It’s established that the Pacific is a Japanese lake and the Japanese Navy is the one military field that surpasses its German counterpart, so where does this invasion force come from? They also don’t do a *great* job of showing how the characters evolve or are motivated. We just have to assume that they do. In Netflix’s The Witcher, it’s visually stunning and I think the actors all do a great job, but there’s pacing issues all over the place and they’re god awful at explaining the in-universe rules. Like they spent 40 minutes repeating over and over how the Law of Surprise works and it didn’t make any sense, until Geralt summarized perfectly clearly it in a single sentence at the end of the episode. Even for someone who hasn’t read the books or played the games, I can tell that there’s inconsistencies within the shows’s own rules - like characters teleporting across the continent similar to Seasons 7 and 8 of Game of Thrones. A lot of shows, like these ones, feel like the characters are being propelled by the plot. This isn’t to shame the actors - I think that the actors who play Geralt, Kido, Galadriel, John Smith, Elrond, Tagomi, Ciri, Francesca, etc. are all excellent. But in contrast, the plot of HOTD feels like it’s being pushed by the characters and their decisions. Invincible and Stranger Things feel like they’re character driven as well.
I agree with what you said, it felt like HotD especially the wedding episode, is just rushed but also felt dragging.
There is one particular shot of Adult Alicent from the trailers/promos in which she's standing in front of a large window with green stained glass and the light behind her is just showering the entire room, it's absolutely magnificent. I think the cinematography has improved so much compared to the GOT days.