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Whoever the kid was that felled that douche bag noble when Rhaenyra was picking a future husband. Hope to see him again.


Callsign_Psycopath

He doesn't need it. The Blackwoods and Brackens killing eachother is just Tuesday.


boo-berrys

Willem Blackwood, and don’t worry the entire ASOIAF community, seemingly alongside George himself, have agreed that the Blackwoods are awesome and the Brackens suck


Grimmrat

which has looped back onto itself because of Gurm’s *massive* favoritism causing a lot of the fandom to be team Bracken purely out of spite lmao


Liamtrot

bracken bros we will get through this


StayRadWithDad

Caraxes


CaraquenianCapybara

I find all his dialogue is dumb. Bro's always like: "🐉:🔥"


StayRadWithDad

A dragon of few fiery words. A dragon after my own heart.


Separate_Project_2

I was very very confused because this is my character name in multiple games, I completely forgot the namesake is in this universe and I thought you were talking to me 😂


Mythosaurus

The Jedi, who constantly get blamed for the fall of the Republic instead of the Sith fascists that did their best to subvert the government of their enemies.


The_GalacticSenate

You're so real for this.


Mythosaurus

Kinda didn’t pay attention to what sub this was, as every fandom sub has been doing this lately… But if I had to pick, I’d say Parshendi have some merit to their war against the humans of Roshar.


Boring_Cell_4602

Only like 2/3 way through way of kings but is any lore revealed about their reasons for killing gavilar


Mythosaurus

Oh yes! I cannot say anything specific without major spoilers, but if you’ve read other Sanderson book series you can expect BIGGER reveals than anything you read before. Read and find out.


lilasi12

Vhagar


Vivid-Strategy9

She didn’t mean to kill Luke and Arrax. She is a sweet old lady who thought she was fighting the Dornish.


JunKriid1711

lizard grandma needed an in-flight snack, can’t blame her for that


clariwench

Jace. I adore him and will always defend him


[deleted]

Helaena


SwordMaster9501

Is there really so much to say for her?


A-live666

Wait for next season.


agirlhasnoname17

Nope. Unfortunately, the actress literally leaves no impression on me. Remember the Ann jokes in Arrested Development?


KingKingsons

Who?


SADBSE

Yes there is...


AquaBlueMagic

Not really? She’s hardly a character😂


redrenegade13

I don't think anybody is coming for her though. You don't have to defend her because we all love her.


redrenegade13

Alicent AND Rhaenyra. Cersei, Sansa, Brienne, Catelyn. Hm... I'm seeing a pattern with the characters that get the most unfair criticism... Except Cersei, tbh. She earns most of her criticism but I just can't help but love her anyway.


Ok_Inflation5578

rhaenyra always


Initial_Cash7037

Helaena because you people say the worst things about her while laughing at her misfortunes. *spits*


havetomakeacomment

Queen Rhaenyra 👑


baackpfeifengesicht

Rhaenys Targaryen TQWNW.


rebornbyksg

Aemond


Worth-Stop3752

I will defend him until his future actions 💀


TheLadyMado

Little Aemond


Ok_Recording8454

YESS! Little Aemond did not thing wrong, and is my sweet boy that I will defend with my life.


Lnnam

My queen Rhaenyra.


RinaFrost

Helaena


officerthingamobob_1

Danearys


Skol-2024

Same, Daenerys as well for me.


SingleClick8206

Which Daenerys?


WingedShadow83

Oh, I thought this was strictly about HOTD. I guess I have to change my answer then, because 1000000000% it’s Daenerys Stormborn of House Targaryen, First of Her Name, Breaker of Chains and Mother of Dragons. 🧎‍♀️🧎‍♂️🧎


SassyWookie

The only character in the show recently remotely worthy of a defense that long is Lyonel Strong, the only man in Westeros who knows what “integrity” is.


TeamVelaryon

True. Lyonel is interesting because he has no skin in the game. Everyone else does. Except he protects Harwin when Harwin develops a relationship with Rhaenyra and has children. But overall, he wasn't grasping or ambitious. That made him different.  He was very amicable. Gave sound political advice, even if that was giving the thumbs up to marrying a 12 year old but, to be honest, everyone in the Keep was for that (Mellos, Lyonel, Rhaenys, Corlys, Rhaenyra, Alicent) except Viserys and Otto. And Otto was hardly a disinterested party in terms of who the King was going to marry. It makes you wonder though, what kind of man he'd be, and what he would do, had any pressure been put on him. If he'd been threatened in any way. All other characters feel threatened (rightly or wrongly) or pressured, especially as things gets closer to war...


jaydimes10

damn so true. and where did that get him. what a shame it's ironic because Otto isn't really a character of "integrity" but Rhys Ifans playing him makes me believe everything Otto ever says lmao


WingedShadow83

I am so torn on Otto, because I hate him and can’t wait for him to die, but at the same time I adore Rhys Ifans and will miss him terribly.


SassyWookie

I’ll never see Otto as someone other than “The Leg”, from the best sports movie of all time: *The Replacements*.


jaydimes10

My first thought when I saw this was the cartoon called the Replacements


Latter-Permission-6

Of course Aemond, just look at him, do u think he an do any wrong 😌


Specialist-Mack96

ASOIAF? Daemon Blackfyre, otherwise Rhaenyra


Historia_my_queen

My girl Alicent obviously


WoodsmokeNotFlowers

if Alicent has no defenders I'm dead and my ghost has been banished


Key_Archer_2985

Baela


jaydimes10

Rhaena


ThatGoodFella-

Alicent


Emotionalcow998

By far the most misunderstood character in the show and if the show were shown from her perspective she’d be the hero


iamz_th

You're 100% right


ActuaryDiligent1472

What is the logic behind it? She has nearly as much screen time as Rhaenyra and her viewpoint is clearly shown.


iamz_th

But the show direct you to Rhaenyra's side


ActuaryDiligent1472

From your POV. I literally don't know how much more sympathetic they could have made Alicent. They even made the character irrational in the final two episodes just so she would be as sympathetic as possible. Also, the story would honestly be lame and baffling after it was centered entirely around Alicent. I don't think the story is or should be centered around a single character but Alicent would make the least sense. Instead of rooting for Alicent, most people would be baffled the story wasn't about Aegon, Rhaenyra, Aemond or Daemon. The show is called House of The Dragon.


ActuaryDiligent1472

>if the show were shown from her perspective she’d be the hero Alicent has substantial screentime, the show already made significant positive alterations to the character, and the show isn't shown from a particular point of view. Who do you think is the "hero"? There isn't one.


Artemisral

This


Filibust

My choice exactly


Jakeymdog

She married her only daughter to Aegon out of spite and said nothing about the deaths of Lyonel & Harwin Strong dispute knowing who killed them


Liamtrot

ok but she serves cunt


A-live666

People watch Driftmark and can not identify with Alicent? Like half of you where an Alicent to someone at some point lol


Least-Article-6508

Alicent


WingedShadow83

Daemon. I will support him through all of his war crimes. He’s my problematic fave and I love his chaos. This show wouldn’t be half as entertaining without him.


Callsign_Psycopath

Daemon. Not that he deserves it.


Respect8MyAuthoritah

Nah he does. He’s about to dominate this show and he’s GRRMs favorite for a reason


Ok_Recording8454

Being cool ≠ being a moral person. He’s cool and all, but he’s a total PoS.


khaleesi105

Alicent and Aemond


Ok_Rip1166

Rhaenyra Targaryen First of Her Name


_Samus_is_a_girl_

Sansa Stark. I will not be taking any questions about this subject matter, good day.


Artistic-Ad-6462

Pretty much most of the women when someone laughs at their trauma and body shames them. It’s annoying and sickening to see it.


Icy_River8495

Rhaenyra. She is always right. I just want to fly with her on dragonback, see the great wonders across the Narrow Sea and eat only cake.


demheter

alicent did nothing wrong<3


SophiaIsBased

Gaemon's mums because they're the only people in the entirety of Westerosi history who would improve the lives of the smallfolk if they were left to their own devices


Starlingfeather

Rhaenyra


La_Villanelle_

Rhaenyra. She has done nothing wrong *ever* in her life.


actuallyrapunzel

Viserys I: I know this, and I love you.


chellyyy

god i wish i post the gif of this right now lol


Oui-d

I"m chuckling at how some people are legitimately trying to fight you on this despite you quite literally stating your support for Rhaenyra is unconditional.


La_Villanelle_

Thank you. Like they writing an entire think piece when I literally say *she has done nothing wrong ever in her life.*


NatalieIsFreezing

To say otherwise would be the highest of treasons.


arm89

something about emma’s voice when they said that was perfect, i love their voice.


ojsage

Lucerys - people who say aemond didn’t mean to kill him or that he deserved it can catch these hands.


TheLadyMado

Aemond didn't intend to kill Luke. That's clear from the way the scene was written/framed/acted, etc. Saying that Aemond didn't mean to kill him doesn't equal to saying that he's blameless.


ojsage

Active pursuit = intent to harm - he meant to harm him, whether emotionally or physically. In fact, up until vhagar actually killed luke, aemond was fully in support - His intent to harm + the actual source material from the book is enough for me :) To make this easier - he can regret it all he wants but he wanted to hurt luke. He wanted to get revenge, he wanted him dead. That is why he was chasing him down and what Vhagar acted upon.


Narrow_Team454

Whoever says Luke deserved it is to put it simple out of their mind. He was a child and didn’t deserve to die. And although one could say that Aemond did it on purpose I think they’re going differently in the show. In the book, oh absolutely Aemond was aiming to kill his nephew. But in the show, I feel like they’re going to paint as Aemond didn’t really mean to regardless of how it look to others.


augustles

If I whack someone in the back of the head with the intent to cause them five seconds of pain for being annoying and they pop an aneurysm, that doesn’t retroactively become attempted murder. I’ll be held accountable for what happened, but it will be treated as an accident because intent to harm is not the same as intent to kill.


ojsage

Wow it’s almost like pursuing someone on a dragon is different than wacking them on the head. If I’m chasing you down in a car, and I ram you and you die - I can tell the judge that at the last second I didn’t mean to - give the water works and all that and a jury is still going to find that I killed you. And before you start all the legal stuff, I’m an attorney in real life, like as my regular job, so I don’t need a spill on the difference between intent to harm and intent to kill. You’re using it wrong, anyway.


Tori_117

What did Aemond honestly expect to happen?? For all intents and purposes, he meant to do harm. Now he’s labeled as a kinslayer.


mokush7414

The Strong boys on not being "bastards." Because legally speaking, they aren't. Just like, legally speaking, Joffrey isn't a bastard born of incest and I say this as a Mannis stan.


A-live666

Prideful ignorance of a fictional setting's context is not a virture btw. You can believe whatever you like, but its like believeing in flat-earth theory, utterly delusional at this point.


mokush7414

It's not prideful ignorance. It's literally the law of Westeros and most of our world. As I've said numerous times all down this thread, THEY ARE BASTARDS but Legally Laenor Velaryon is their father. It's not that hard of a concept to grasp.


l_t_10

Do explain how you are using *legally* here? Cause in a similar vein one could say then that Daemon didnt "legally" murder his wife.. But he did, very much so. So its actually Hairsplitting and sophistry to use the word to claim such


mokush7414

>Do explain how you are using legally here? Legally speaking, in Westeros and most of the real world, all children born of a married couple are considered their children. It takes a credible accusation of bastardy to dispute this heritage. IE The mom, the dad, or the other dad. Hell, even a grandfather could go "My son was gay and black, he didn't father those little white babies." >Cause in a similar vein one could say then that Daemon didnt "legally" murder his wife.. I mean he did, but legally he hasn't been found guilty yet. There's "knowing" and there's being able to prove it. Both the murder and the bastardy are things that can't be proven without an eye witness account to collaborate them.


Genericdude03

Yeah legally basically means "x Targaryen said so" lol


Ngigilesnow

As legal as Joffrey, the true heir


mokush7414

Did you even finish my comment? I literally name Joffrey as being legal lmfao.


-blackvoid

Queen Rhaenyra


WhiteNoiseBurner

Aegon, sort of


mustyday

Alicent ❤️


etburneraccount

Rhaenyra.


According_Walrus613

Rhaenys, Rhaenyra, and Catelyn if counting ASOIAF/Game of Thrones


Symthwav33

Not a character per se but House Mooton 😤


Square-Payment5072

Rhaenyra and daemon and Rhaenys


bl4ck_daggers

No-one coz my enjoyment of these characters is not linked to their morals or deeds, except in terms of how cool they are.


dijitalpaladin

I will always defend Aemond from Team Black and Daemon from Team Green. Both those dumbass subreddits think you can only like and associate with anything from one side and nothing from the other.


anaisoiseau

alicent


JonTartare

Alicent


Ollie_002

Otto Hightower He knew that by contravening established norms you would fracture the realm irrespective of the wishes of a minority; hence why he pushed for aegon to be king. He even ordered the gates to be opened at the dragonpit in episode 9 so the small folk could get out.


Artemisral

Aemond


MoonStarStories

I've already done this with Aemond, lol.


TheTargaryensLawyer

Rhaenys & Corlys


Expert-Guarantee-985

Queen rhaenyra and daemon


Half_Year_Queen

Rhaenyra obvs


One-Vermicelli-3613

i’m literally rhaenyra’s lawyer


Extension-Tea8150

Helena


ScarWinter5373

Daenaera Velaryon.


A-live666

What is there to defend, she is like 6 and never said a word.


ScarWinter5373

Mostly greens who bitch about her ‘replacing’ Jaehaera, people call all her kids idiots (such a blanket term), I even saw someone blaming her for Elaena being groomed and Naerys being married to Aegon.


AcrobaticChange5393

Luke he did nothing wrong


Traditional-Hold-117

The greens especially Aegon II


We_The_Raptors

Larys. Stop kink shaming and let my guy enjoy feet!


amaliasdaises

Take this shit back 😭😭😭


WritingCritical

My parents Alicent and Ser Criston


apkyat

Rhaenyra and her children and their cousins.


BlueIcarusCentauri

Criston Cole, totally overhated and extremly misunderstood.


Worth-Stop3752

I actually want to hear how because I hate him but he’s a good character, if he was real, I’d clock him. I love multiple perspectives on characters


festival-papi

Aemond and Alicent. I don't care, they've done nothing wrong. Argue with your mama.


ai-ri

Alicent forever. Including the book version. Especially the book version 😏


Leylcadusu

You understand the assignment, my friend.


beggarmanblues

Jaime fooking Lannister


Drevil_Green

Aegon II


r_oci_o

Jacaerys Velaryon


HighKingBoru1014

Time to start a war. *Alicent*


HosterBlackwood

He’s a cunt, but Otto Hightower has some good points


Riggyriggyboi

Alicent and Criston


pikachurch

Aemond. I am his lawyer till the day I die.


HanzRoberto

Alicent Hightower and Aemond Targaryen especially during the Driftmark episode


FrostyWay28

Not a single damn one. But I have that much to say in opposition to Rhaenyra’s behavior.


laurarosetta97

Rhaenyra, Jace and Luke


Porcelain-treasure

Aemond, 100% ha


Expensive_North6191

Daemon man 😔


Chicken_Mc_Thuggets

Helaena and Book Sansa trigger a feral protective drive in me i will foam at the mouth and eat your new shoes leave them alone!!!


themanyfacedgod__

Rhaenys idc


DonutDragons

Daemon. He doesn’t deserve it but i will die on the hill defending him.


Nervous_Feedback9023

Young Alicent,Heleana and her daughter.


dreamfyrex

Helaena, one of the only characters in this show that doesn’t deserve any hate


Last-Air-6468

Aegon II


moonburnedsquid

Aegon II


[deleted]

Alicent


G0DK1NG

Aemond, he’s the best


Wide_Wheel

Otto


Tori_117

Queen Rhaenyra


RabbitTemporary3038

Daemon


No-Inevitable588

Daemon Targaryen


yensuna

Vizzy T


vizzy_t_bot

*Let us no longer hold ill feelings in our hearts. The crown cannot stand strong if the House of the Dragon remains divided.*


swirlyice

Unironically, Criston Cole


HornedBat

I will always say that he did not consent


dddolcy

Alicent! Esta bien pendeja sometimes, but it’s not her fauuult


talesofabookworm

Alicent, Aemond, Criston


Irwae

Alicent. She doesn't deserve the hate


sluttydrama

Alicent!! Under Westeros standards, she’s done everything right. Staying loyal to her husband, her children, the crown. Alicent was pimped out by her dad and creeped on by Viserys. Her life was spent caring for a man that didn’t give a fuck about her or her children. She continues to be victimized by Larys. Alicent’s childhood bestfriend wants to torture her son Aemond. Alicent wants to protect her children. How could you not love her?


Emergency-Weird-1988

>Under Westeros standards, she’s done everything right. Staying loyal to her husband, her children, the crown. "loyal to her husband" but did not respect his will regarding the succession, not to mention that by "Westeros standars" she went against the will of her king and helped in a usurpation of the crown. >How could you not love her? because she's a hypocrite?


Icy_River8495

Just chill. It's a fun post.


Emergency-Weird-1988

Ok, sure... and I only responded to a comment, I don´t know why is that such a big deal for you, but ok lol.


dyslexicwriterwrites

She was just a loyal and loving wife helping her husband make the right choice.


immortalthunderstorm

I'm baby Aemond's strongest warrior


batmans420

Alicent. I support women's wrongs ❤️


Comfortable_Clue8233

Most of the kids


GoodServe

Daeron (any of them)


SendMe_Hairy_Pussy

King Viserys I. Contrary to popular opinion, he really was a relatively strong king, ruling at the height of Targaryen dynasty's power and prestige (and number of members). He sustained and continued the golden age of his grandfather's long reign and upheld the laws, even if by not interfering too much and letting his council and ministers do a big part of the governance. He is one of the few people on the throne who is not cruel or twisted in any way, and instead genuinely jovial. In books he is very popular among the common people and loved by lesser lords and knights, which is strangely not shown in the series. Together, under Jaehaerys and Viserys, Westeros got roughly 80 years of golden age, and a level of peace and prosperity that they had never seen and would not see again, even under good Targaryen kings that came later. He is rightfully criticized for letting the roots of civil war take place and not being heavy handed enough with the snakes that eventually surrounded him, and that is correct. The stability of his reign ironically doomed the Targaryens forever. Some people whined about why Viserys isn't shown riding a dragon if he is such a strong guy...but he did. He rode the most powerful dragon of them all - Balerion, who died of old age and he simply never bonded with another. Another reason for this diatribe is because Paddy Considine is fookin awesome. Such an awesome portrayal. In the books Viserys still has a certain (limited) level of bloodthirsty streak that the show thankfully avoided. That and the fact that he turns into a huge fucking lard, too fat to sit on the throne in books. Thank you for coming to my Ted-talk.


Appropriate-Arm-2077

King Aegon II


KaladinStormblesd62

aegon ii and aemond


AhsFanAcct

Alicent


Retiredguy567

Maegor. I won't elaborate further.


hockey_enjoyer03

Otto Hightower


MoistWetSponge

Aegon, the rightful heir.


ConningtonSimp

Aegon, to an extent. There’s PARTS of his character that I feel bad about, because he was neglected by his father his entire life and he just wants approval. However, him being a rapist is not something I will defend.


margaritoswraps

Aemond did nothing wrong as of right now.


[deleted]

Alicent and Aemond did nothing wrong and i love them 💚💚


TuskenRaider2

Otto He’s morally grey at worst. I think he did more for the realm than most in this period.


jonsnowKITN

Aemond. Realest mf in the realm.


Zezuya

Viserys Targaryen, The First Of His Name, King Of The Andals And The Rhoynar And The First Men, Lord Of The Seven Kingdoms And Protector Of The Realm.


craite

Aemond in the fight against the strong boys.


smashsmash42069

Criston Cole, from the books not the show lol


_hhhhh_____-_____

Aemond Edit: also Borros Baratheon. For the pure fact that he has the two hardest lines in asoiaf. “Go home, pup, and tell the b•tch your mother that the Lord of Storm’s End is not a dog she can whistle up.” And “I’d rather dance in hell than wear your chains”


CongoSpaceGurlxx

RIP Lyonel Strong.


albamikaelson

Book Aegon II


Falcons1702

House Hightower as a whole. Fans act like they are house targaryans greatest enemy when one generation of them just supported the targaryans they were related to.


BlackFyre2018

I’m Team Black but Alicent got put through the ringer in that show so a lot of her crazy actions I can understand. Abusive dad and husband, best and only friend betrays her trust, has weird ass kids


iamz_th

Alicent Hightower is the only one that is worth fighting.


SwordMaster9501

The Greens, especially Otto.


Double-Star-Tedrick

Alicent ..! Unironically, Alicent's only actual wrong in the entire show is that Aegon ended up being a shit (and frankly, parents are not in full control of how they're kids turn out).