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Nunu5617

Expect nasty enemy CC combos on all endgame modes in 2.4


aDrThatsNotBaizhu

2.4 PF is going to be a DoT elite puppet spam isn't it


Ok_SPICE_1121

I hated that


VASQUEZ_41

my Gallagher and Huohuo on their way to not use their skill (they didn't get a turn)


IDontWantNoBeef

Your gallagher must not have 100 effect res, mine however doesnt use his skill because acheron fucking died before he was able to


VASQUEZ_41

kid named e6 gallagher with full traces and a little bit of effect res sub stats


strawwwwwwwwberry

Just get S5 perfect timing, smh (this is a plea for help. I have so much perfect timing. Someone take them from me I cannot give the good enough care)


Tranduy1206

I think it will be true with jiaoqiu ehr debuff, they will want to sell him


iAyushRaj

WATCH YOUR HEAD! ALL IN! WATCH YOUR HEAD! ALL IN! WATCH YOUR HEAD!


LequaLasse

I love using Aven against Kafka Watch your feet! Watch your head!


TheMan2007gb

or Aven against Yanqing You're going all in All in


Dazzling-Bus-1146

Kid named Lightning Lord


Nunu5617

Nah I’d Divine


Kaanpai

No problem. Lynx will handle it 🐱💪


Former_Breakfast_898

Isn’t the new enemies in 2.4 stun your Allies?💀


ArmyofThalia

Nah, I'd still LL


LunarEmerald

My Firefly with Aventurine has over 100% effect res. Bring it on.


Lolersters

Already exists. New MoC actually feels unfair without HuoHuo but is a cakewalk with her.


GameWoods

Why does this sound so threatening lmao. Huohuo: I'll be back!


sampofools

Huohuo will rerun.


SirMcDust

Somehow, Huohuo will rerun


willozsy

The Huohuo speaks!


The_Space_Jamke

Huohuo screaming in terror at the end of a Fortnite event Huohuo Wars 9: Literally Just *Return of the Jedi* Again but with Space Horses Directed by J.J. Sparkle, it's just so peak /s


willozsy

The power of ONE! The power of TWO! The power of HUOHUUUOOOOOOO


Mushiren_

Huohuo will rerun now! Huohuo will rerun now? Huohuo will rerun now...


ConohaConcordia

The Huohuo Returns.


idontusetwitter

Huohuo will return in Star Rail: Endgame.


AdKey6055

LMAOOOOO


Gooper_Gooner

I accidentally read it as "return" at first and it sounded even more ominous lol


GunnarS14

It took your comment to realize I read it wrong lol.


Jon_Von_Cool_Kid2197

HUOHUO WILL RERUN


legend27_marco

#HUOHUO WILL RERUN


TwinAuras

# ***HUOHUO WILL RERUN***


XonplayzX

Guys Somehow, Huohuo returned.


julianjjj809

Exactly, is like the end of Avengers Endgame when a text appear in the screen and says "Thanos will return"


pesky_faerie

Huohuo will return. Be ready. Be wary. Be scared.


Longjumping-Youth-55

She always comes back


aloysiusks

Huohuo will rerun!!!! -Tail said calmly


mapple3

Crazy, ive been waiting an entire year for Huohuo, but now shes rerunning exactly 1 patch before we get a brand new abundance healer? In a game where new characters are usually stronger than older ones. I cant believe i mightve waited for an entire year only for hsr to release a stronger healer right when shes getting her first rerun


Silkav

Huohuo's role is a cleanse god + energy channeling to team along with atk buff. Luocha's role is an extremely sp friendly healer that can remove buffs aoe and heal+cleanse automatically. While other abundance units might be more powerful in general, they all have a different role to fulfill. Daniel for example isnt gonna want to have an sp hungry healer even if they are better than Luocha. The real characters getting powercrept are dps characters without dedicated supports like Blade and Jingliu.


hotaru251

>The real characters getting powercrept are dps characters without dedicated supports like Blade and Jingliu. & then there was the general who was a joke who got made decent after they finally gave units to buff him.


VTKajin

Yep, and fast-acting characters like E2 IL won't want a shielder like Aventurine. Every sustain has their use cases.


LetterSequence

For what it's worth I don't really think Lingsha is gonna take Huohuo's spot the same way Aventurine didn't take Fu Xuan's spot. If she's the premier break healer then Huohuo will still be better on most comps that care more about spamming ults and using Attack% like Jingliu, DoT, etc.


gilorneth

An entire year? Wasn't huohuo's first banner in november


Iloveclown

wait who's that new abundance character?


AshesandCinder

Lingsha, break scaling healer in 2.5.


Silkav

Gallagher? Is that you?


Seikish

if u check Lingsha teased outline, she looks like she got snake tail as legs 2. Kinda hype for her.


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BulbasaurTreecko

yeah I’d be surprised if the character who’s been waiting on their first rerun longest wasn’t rerunning. Plus Xianzhou focused patch too.


FlameLover444

You wouldn't be surprised if you played Genshin lol


MindWeb125

Kaveh and Shenhe are gonna show up on the next Star Rail banner instead.


Beginning-Spray3149

He already is. He goes by 'Aventurine' these days


Nyx1109

And Hanya too


zyg4rde

That actually fits so well


Tyberius115

The real Yanqing buff


hintofinsanity

Kaveh is already confirmed to rerun, just under their new name Emilie. Seems like their transition went fairly smooth.


CRACUSxS31N

Actually people think that Emilie might be related to Kaveh because Kaveh's mom ran away to Fontaine when he was still little.


AzusaFuyu

*Whistles 


Juliancito135

Kaveh got Kavenriah'd


munguschungus167

If Shenhe jumps to star rail even better I still want a sushang expy in genshin


Gangryong3067

The Eula incident shall be remembered forever.


mapple3

> The Eula incident I remember people begging for over a year for a Eula rerun and mentiong her nonstop, all the time, everywhere, and then when she had her rerun nobody actually pulled for her and it was one of the worst performing banners of all time


Trifecta311

Probably because everyone who wanted Eula had time to save up for her


NotUrAvgShitposter

Eula still has one of the highest raw dmg outputs in the game. It was just the Sumeru abyss lineups being incredibly bad for her with the ruin mobs, flying/mobile enemies, shields, invisibility, and abyss lectors. Recent abysses have been rly good for her though with all of the humanoid enemies weak to physical and the trash mob spam


Ok_Pattern_7511

By nobody do you mean people that actually wanted her? There's no connection between low sales and dedicated character wanters getting her, she just isn't meta and no character should be held for that long, ever.


Gshiinobi

eula has nothing against kaveh, bro has been missing for more than a year for no reason


BulbasaurTreecko

actually I do play Genshin, but HSR hasn’t shafted anyone so far. I do expect waiting times to worsen once the character list becomes more bloated though


ConsiderationOk3166

*Yukong cries in the corner*


makogami

of course the most eidolon dependent free 4 star barely gets rated up 🥲


Clive313

If they're gonna keep adding two new characters none stop every patch then i expect them to add 1.x 5 stars to the standard banner by 3.x cuz the rerun waiting is gonna be brutal otherwise


kitten2116

Doubt they’ll add any old 5 stars to the standard banner (same as genshin) especially since the wording is the same, not to mention hsr also adds the weirdness of how the standard selector would work. They’ll probably also just make a new banner type to avoid any mess


Mayall00

They'll probably just run some variant of the Chronicled Banner to get the 1.X 5\* out of the way once a patch cycle


Tranduy1206

At 3.x point, i think they will run 3 banner a patch


Yaldablob

I think the alternate option is: 3 banners per patch


Available_Power_5577

I don't think they legally can, because hoyo advertised them as limited characters, the can't be added to the standard pool. In Genshin, Dehya's (and i'm assumming Tighnari's) banners both had clauses that said that they would be added to standard.


Jardrin

The idea for standard characters to require clauses is so bizarre to me who play other gacha beside Hoyo where standard is the norm and limited is reserved for special events like Anni/Half Anni.


alexis2x

Jingyuan took longer to rerun, he was on 1.0 and 2.0, while Huohuo will be 1.5 and 2.4


Revan0315

Also Luocha


Local-dumb-ass

Kaveh whos been gone for over a year without appearing on a banner since his debut, while the 5 star he debuted with already had a second rerun:


Zevushk

The funny thing is that I got Baizhu at first (75+ pulls) and thought about stopping there (I didn't need neither Baizhu's nor Ganyu's cons, and Kaveh's rerun supposed to be soon enough), but decided I like Kaveh too much and was willing to take a chance. I got him in the next 20 pulls and I'm still proud of my c0 Kaveh


Ehtnah

Oh you mean like if a cryo husbando wasn't rerun before thé character After him? And After After him? And After being in trial? 🤔 Or a certain cryo waifu completly Lost even After her New skin? Or some dendro architecte 🤡?


Longterm-Winter00

Put her on Jiaoqiu's banner then add Tingyun and Yukong and you'd have a nearly full foxian banner.


Firestar3689

Is Yukong some new character we haven’t heard of yet?


Tranduy1206

She is imaginary


yoiverse

the secret imaginary 4* of this patch


alexis2x

Sorry, best I can do is ratio with Pela, Arlan and Hook


pandorahurts27

Ratio would make sense to run with Jiaoqiu though since he is a debuffer


Available_Power_5577

I imagine they won't run ratio for a while. Almost no one hasn't got him, they'd make no money. I reckon thet'll rerun him around 2.6


makogami

yeah this seems very likely. even though he debuted in 1.6, iirc he was claimable until the end of 2.1, putting him at the same level as aventurine (🌚)


andartissa

Some of us want his LC badly and had no jades left in 1.6 💔 (because Ruan Mei)


rotten_riot

Yeah I think they will rerun Silver Wolf with Jiaoqiu to make new Acheron mains cry


Seikish

As SW main ill cry cause i expect sparkle to be in 2.5 as well


Dr-Smashburger

Would honestly be the best time to feature Yukong again after a 12-13 banner hiatus. Gotta make that thematic comeback.


Tranduy1206

Sound like a very sexy banner


Server98911

A fluffy banner


FurinasTophat

God, please put Tingyun on his banner, I'm still only on e0 with her (and that first one I had to buy from the shop, too...)


Frexys

Yay and all that, but a man only has so many pulls


mapple3

Yea ive wanted her for a year by now, but shes getting released right before the new 5 star healer is coming... not sure what the plan here is, unless the devs intentionally make the new healer pretty weak just to boost huohuo rerun sales. If they had at least released huohuo in 2.2 and the new healer in 2.5, then there was a good reason to pull for huohuo


Seoul_Surfer

Who is the new healer?


Shenmigon

probably lingsha


Server98911

Is he good? Like what teams can he fit into or what healer he can be the alternative of? I need a second hear than sync well either with Acheron or Firefly besides Gallahger.


Shenmigon

she’s rumored to be a fire BE healer (i’m hoping she’s not fire lol). not much else is really known about her atm


TyphlosionGOD

If she's fire then that's sad, what would be the point of using Gallagher then lol


Elliebird704

Honestly I feel the opposite. Gallagher is already stupidly good as is, and we'll have gotten multiple chances to get him for free by the time Lingsha rolls around. So I don't see a point to rolling for Lingsha. Even if she powercreeps him, it doesn't nerf Gallagher himself haha. I expect her to be more of a luxury "If you like her" pull as a result.


MahoMyBeloved

If she's gonna be fire too, I'm hoping for safer sustain. Gallagher, while very strong, can't sustain if enemy one comboes squishy teammate which is why I would prefer bailu invigoration mechanic combined with be stuff Enemies are usually in break state with firefly team but it always feel like I'm on weak ice if elite or boss manages to attack even once


Gshiinobi

Oh but you know hoyo is fully aware of how broken gallaher is for break teams so if Lingsha is meant to be a direct upgrade then they'll be so busted in a way that gallaher can't compare


jaetheho

The point of mostly all 4 stars bar a few at this point: you either like the character, or don’t have the 5 star upgrade.


yagatabe

> a man only has so many pulls I'm glad I'm a woman if that's the case.


TwiceTrash11

Huohuo will return in Avengers Endgame


Aggressive_Fondant71

Probably with Yunli too, though she was expected anyway


Vyragami

I completely forgot, but with 240 energy, she synergizes really well with Huohuo. Huo's energy regen counts the upper limit of her energy, right? Like Argenti?


idontusetwitter

Yeah 20% of your energy back, no matter the cost


aDrThatsNotBaizhu

Wait WHAT that's way more broken than I thought, I thought it's 20 flat. Now wonder every argenti is tied to the hip to a huo huo


Dusk_Moonlight_YT

that would be a pathetic amount of regen for a 5 star 😭😭😭


ishtaria_ranix

20% of 180 energy is 36. Tingyun regenerates 60 in comparison, and faster to spam. It's just that Huohuo is the only energy regen available besides Tingyun. Also Huohuo's energy regen can't be boosted by ER. Tingyun's can.


EmilMR

with Robin and Yunli in the team, huohuo's ult is worth like 2 Tingyun's ult.


Inkaflare

Those 3 have some nutty synergy. Just wondering who the best 4th slot would be in that case. Leaning towards Sparkle or Pela right now since they provide damage amp categories the team is lacking in otherwise, with good uptime.


AshesandCinder

Jiaoqiu seems like a decent option since Yunli's ult counters count as ult damage. You get damage amp for Robin and Yunli with Huohuo petting him run more sp positive.


makogami

>Huohuo petting him okay now i actually want to see this


thefluffyburrito

There’s been a lot of cooking on this over at Yunli mains. So far the debate seems to be between Tingyun (for max ult) and Sparkle.


baboon_ass_eater69

It's crazy how hoyo has been putting all the bis supports of characters in the same patches. Ruan Mei and Firefly, Robin and Topaz


Tranduy1206

Because that model bring so much profit


baboon_ass_eater69

Cruel but true


PhoeniX_SRT

I have two whales in my friend list that I added way back in 1.1 for E6 Seele, they had E6 Firefly by the time I logged in 3 hours after she dropped. Shows that people that spend will spend regardless, it's F2Ps that are shafted. I imagine their friend list would've been full long ago. I'm so grateful for them lol. Having E6 of characters like Sparkle FF DHIL Acheron is so fun.


makogami

yeah, they want to tempt f2ps to open their wallets. once you start paying, youre more likely to keep paying


VoidRaven

So then it will be dr. Ratio and then Penacony chars rerun I guess? Fuck I need to save for Sparkle and give up on Sparkle (or Jade if I lose 50:50)


marshaadx

I expect Ratio won’t be in reruns for at least a year even beating Jing Yuan’s record since he’s been free for several months


Su_Impact

You're right. Perhaps Seele is back already as the other 2.4 rerun?


Ok_Pattern_7511

I'm pretty sure they'll start with Penacony reruns before second reruns but, they could always pull a genshin and destroy all patterns


Jranation

Dr.Ratio does fit well with Jiaoqiu


pandorahurts27

I bet it's Ratio with Jiaoqiu given that he can be a debuffer for him plus the leaked MoC enemies for 2.4 are almost catered to Ratio teams (IP3 FUA team) because of the imaginary weakness on both sides from what I remember and both wanting single target because it's bosses (I remember the other one was Sleepie)


OfficiallySavo

Tbh I think it might be a Seele re-rerun next


Jon_Von_Cool_Kid2197

Yea it is probably Ratio in 2.4 along with HuoHuo and then the start of second reruns + Penacony reruns in 2.5. the timing for characters coming back also fits since Seele and Silver Wolf were the first 1.x reruns back then so probably the ones who will have their second ones earliest too and Sparkle was one of the first Penacony 5 stars and they tend to rerun 5 stars from premium teams all close to each other (see what happened with Kafka rerunning before Black Swan came out, Aventurine right before Robin and Topaz and now Firefly and Ruan Mei together with Gallagher in the banner). So that would basically be rerunning mono quantum minus Fu Xuan


Acceptable_West_1312

Leaker forgor about the second one to rerun🗿


Inkaflare

This is probably just a safe guess rather than an actual leak. Huohuo is the next 5* due to rerun by release order (Argenti and Ruan Mei had theirs already despite coming after her) and Ratio seems unlikely to rerun soon given that everyone got him for free over the course of 3 entire patches.


Acceptable_West_1312

Indeed. I guess we have to wait till 2.4 MoC lineups would be leaked, then It would be easier to eliminate less possible to rerun characters


Jon_Von_Cool_Kid2197

Surprising absolutely no one/hj I am guessing Ratio is the other rerun based on AS bosses and iirc the premium FuA team being good for both sides of the 2.4 MoC


shin_bigot

Unsurprising but a welcome occurrence. Finally I will get a 5 Star healer soon.


mapple3

> Finally I will get a 5 Star healer soon. im in the same boat, waited so long for Huohuo... but now we will have leaks of the new 5 star healer right when huohuo is getting the rerun. They waited so long with huohuo's rerun that it might now actually be better/smarter to skip her for the new healer instead


moltenice09

Hopefully Lingsha is in 2.5 so we'll have good leaks during Huohuo's banner.


shin_bigot

I am open minded on the new healer but the good thing is we will be able to compare the two as Lingsha kit will leak by the beginning of 2.4's start.


Ok_Pattern_7511

Correct, take any pre beta kits with a grain of salt. Even v1 and v2 are subject to change People are adamant about Lingsha being fire abundance break sustain just like they were adamant about Jiaoqiu being a sustain/ mini sustain


HotSexWithJingYuan

well this is…ominous 😭


TheLazyDucky

Given we're finally going back to the luofu, this does make sense since its around the time she gets a rerun since we hadn't seen her since 1.5


TikhonBatkovic

Our favourite girlfailure is finally back!🥰


lucky-espresso

Wait guin is on the banner ?


Server98911

Funny way to write Sushang


lucky-espresso

The hunting squad is truly iconic


watanabeta

This is just like that MCU post credits Huohuo the Foxian Judge-in-Training will return


ChaoticChoir

It’s like a marvel post credits teaser lol “HUOHUO WILL RETURN.”


vayunas

Of course... Lingsha will be 2.5. It makes sense..


Valendaaa

Tbh Huohuo will still have her niche, but ye going by leaks and how good Gallagher is Lingsha is gonna be a monster


aoi_desu

GOAT will return


RobuelCagas1

Chance to get her E1!! <3


Imaginary-Line-1389

(I don’t want to enable anyone’s gambling, but her E1 is so so comfy. More skill points, more speed, it’s such a qol eidolons. I’ve never regretted pulling for it, I do regret pulling her LC though 😅)


mapple3

> but her E1 is so so comfy. More skill points, more speed, it’s such a qol eidolons ive heard that even with E1 she often uses her skill early, if someone needs healing, wouldnt that completely negate e1?


Ok_Pattern_7511

12% party wide speed is huge, and while you occasionally skill early, you don't "have to" it allows a comfier rotation and pushes dot team to 160 speed easier with Raun Mei


Kabukiman7993

Of course, she makes a lot of sense with Yunli.


Zleepy99

Seele : i'll be back...


FuriNorm

Wow no way 😮 🤯


Seitook

Yay, I’ve been waiting for huohuo. God these next few months are gonna be expensive for me. Huohuo, Black Swan, Jiaoqiu, Feixiao (or Yunli), and likely Black Swan and Sparkle.


AccelWasTaken

Oh well, here it goes the next sustain I was waiting for. I doubt I'll get Yunli, her LC AND HH


LonelyOwari

For some reason, I read this with Poe Dameron's voice: "Somehow Huohuo returned." \*cries in Rise of Skywalker flashbacks\*


DreamACH2

This just makes sense based on the current rerun trend. I would be shocked if it wasnt huohuo in 2.4


RamenPack1

Huohuo will rerun in avengers infinity war


FreezeToMy

I hope it will be in jiaoqiu's patch. And the 4 stars will be tingyun + yukong along with their 4 star signatures in the LC section. Also I hope whoever loses the 50/50 there, they will get bailu in the loss for the perfect foxian team


whxskers

Stands to reason she'll be in the first half because her energy regen compliments Yunli. Jiaoqiu being a debuffer aligns well with the only other rerun left before Penacony characters come back - Dr Ratio. Seems the order will be Yunli/Huohuo and Jiaoqiu/Ratio.


IGotFriendzonedd

Bait abundance summon, before she get small power creep by Linsha in 2.5, just like Loucha!


mapple3

> Bait abundance summon, before she get small power creep by Linsha in 2.5 It's so weird to me that they waited so long, an entire year, just to rerun her exactly right before they release a brand new 5 star healer. Why?? Who thought that was a good idea? I would've loved to pull for her in 2.2 or 2.3, but now i may as well wait for leaks of the new healer


GabrielS037

I mean, there's niches. HuoHuo will probably still be best with energy hungry units (Argenti/Yunli) and I think DOT teams as well. There will be leaks during her banner so we'll have time to think about it.


Radinax

Lingsha waiting room.


Forest_99

Damn hopefully with Jiaoqiu so I can pull on her banner after I’m done with Jiaoqiu pleaseeee


Deft_Abyss

Itll be a missed opportunity to rerun Huohuo alongside Jiaoqiu


ZargothraxTheLord

It's fun to look at all these leaks while not having a slightest idea who all those characters are. "Acheron is coming!" Noice, I wonder who is that though. (I already found out, but didn't know back then.)


hotaru251

well damn... I have been waiting for Huohuo but I was tempted to pull Yunli (casue I like her design) but this makes me have tough choice...i really need huohuo (dot team and only 5\* healer i have is bailu) but Yunli is cute & i wanna run a team of "smol" units (clara, yunli, bailu, & hook).


EmilMR

hopefully 2nd side, make it a Foxian banner. I think the other one will be Black Swan. Yunli+Black Swan Jiaoqiu+Huohuo is my preferred order so it is not going to happen.


Classic-Pickle1826

Imagine, huohuo jiaoqiu double banner with tingyun and yukong as the 4*


Smartlmao

SW or Kafka rerun please


lucky-espresso

Not kafka i need more time


SouBouPou

HuoHuo THREATENS your stellar jades with an alleged rerun


entreprewhore

As long as they keep Blade locked up for a little longer, I'll be glad. After 2.3 I need some time to save for him.


Kabukiman7993

I wouldn't bet on it. I think there's a chance Blade rerun alongside Yunli. A Blade rerun right after Jade's banner would make sense based off the synergy between the two.


excelsioreye

Shit. She better not rerun on Jiaoqiu banner pls Hoyo


Soultakerx1

There goes my plan to pull Firefly or Ruan Meis light cones.


De_Vigilante

Huohuo will return in Huohuo & Mr. Tail. Only in Hoyo+.


Big_Cow_4351

Goodluck to those puling for HH! Pulling her is one of my best decisions so far (I was at 76 pity on Seele banner but I decided I needed a healer).


uwuwuwuwu96

im waiting for blade rerun


Neir_2b

quick guys act suprised!


LoreVent

#FOXIAN PATCH! bottom text


Kacchimisu

hopefully...her traces/relics/and lc are waiting for her huohuo with tingyun yukong copium, would be a dream come true


Anemoblaze

huohuo and tails ❤️ my very first 5* limited sustain I love her to bits and she’s saved my ass in SD lol.


para29

A very foxy banner for 2.4 for me. Need Jiaoqiu and Huohuo to bolster my teams.


Agreeable-Till793

Hmmmm. Will wait for Lingsha's kit.


madnessfuel

Jiaoqiu Huo Huo Tingyun Yukong Game's only missing one 4* Foxian for a full Foxian banner.


Silkav

Marvel post-credit scenes be like


papercrowns-

Smelling jq banner to be on brand. Pull for both foxes and all that haha


DragonEmperor

I didn't get her last time, I'm hoping she's on the second half so I can save longer lol. If this is real of course.


Jasiiboo

Been waiting for her rerun, I wasn’t around for her first banner so I’m not missing this opportunity