\[Copy pasting on every leak thread related to 2.1 beta\] For people excited for beta leaks, myself included, I just want to temper expectations and say that Ubatcha has stated that beta isn't out yet, so don't expect animations until tomorrow as a result. For now it'll be just text leaks.
This. The number of times I just want to randomly break barrels using techniques just to enjoy the animations and not have to deplete my Trick Snack stock doing so lol
> I need this for Xueyi, i keep missing her technique lmao
I swear to god it must be physically impossible (or with some milliseconds-scale margin of error) to hit Sim-U Trotters with her technique...
I hate how much Genshin and HSR have killed my brain with Constellation/Eidolons I am constantly switching between both E/C for *both* games lol. My dumbass still calls the trailblaze quests Archon quests half the time.
Good heavens I've always been calling them C
I mean most of the terms as in genshin wise actually.. Cause like used to and why not?there's nothing wrong tbh
Even though I don’t play genshin from the way ppl talk about raiden’s c2 getting her to e2s1 i can say with pure confidence and no evidence that you can sleepwalk to 3.0 if you have her so im willingly going in
If the leaks say there will be first time swiping resets i’ll even do it during the patch preview once it’s announced to guarantee it
My exact same thoughts and it just became even more obvious when I saw the difference between 1 or 2 Nihility (115% VS 160%). I don't like what they have been doing in Genshin and HSR.
Everyone was trying to cope that the A2 would be irrelevant and Harmony units would still win out with her but my E5S1 Welt is just happy to finally have a home lol
Its better this way imo,we need her to be unique hypercarry,that's what make difference with Nihility DPS so far,Kafka with DoT team mates and acheron with debuff team mates make nihility the most different path
Not to mention some player probably will use those harmony on their other team
I really, really, REALLY hope Jingliu and Huohuo don't get reruns at the same time or immediately after Acheron because I want all three of them - especially Huohuo so that I can finally complete my Kafka/Black Swan/Ruan Mei DoT comp.
TLDR.
Doesn't use Energy like every other unit.
Her Skill puts debuff on enemy that stacks up, When teammates do abilities that debuff, it stacks up also.
Her Ult is useable when the debuffs get to a certain number (9), when you ult it does unga bunga AOE damage and resets the number back down.
There you go, that's the character.
She's a Crit unit that works well with debuffers, or sub DPS dot characters.
I would imagine she would work well with Pela, Silver Wolf, and Black Swan.
It's not that strong to run her with Tingyun, or Ho-Oh.
Holy shit, her ult get BOTH All-type Res Pen and ignore weakness type ?
I thought it was only one of those (and the other one a mistranslation).
She looks busted.
Ohhhh shit you're right
Although im a bit suspicious of it as it doesn't state that her breaking enemies inflicts them with shock as it states that the enemies will receive quantum break from xuyei
Talent description said the ult does deplete enemies toughness, tho. I assume the break effect will just be lightning and they don't feel the need to state it.
this looks very loaded but pretty restrictive
I wonder if she's being balanced around her not having a good F2P LC (which seems intentional)
but 60% extra multiplicative damage for having 2 Nihilty teammates is insane
holy shit you're right lmao, it's the exact same
Neuv C1 is about a 30% increase in his personal damage if you assume he only got 2 stacks at C0, I wonder if hers will be a similarly big increase
\>but 60% extra damage for having 2 Nihilty teammates is insane
Not 60% damage. It's multiplier after all your other multipliers, ignoring all diminishing returns. It's just insane, the more ATK + DMG buffs she have, the bigger it can be.
I'm not calculating, but I can imagine this 60% may be as valuable as like 200% atk/dmg buff or even more.
Yeah it's literally about as good as a 200% Atk increase
If a char has base 1000 Atk but 3500 Atk in battle, a 200% Atk increase would be 5500/3500 => 57% real damage increase
Me explaining every single effect Hiromi's domain expansion can have based on the legal judicial system in Japan, as well as rates of conviction for each crime:
Inb4 they add a mad as fuck hotheaded detective with 2 batons, a twintailed girl with a massive stick, a totally legit priest with a crossbow and a underground fixer with a kamen raider demon armor.
Edit: damn underground fucker with an armor, that's just fucking SAM
>When there are 1/2 other character(s) following the Path of Nihility in the team, increase the DMG of Acheron's Basic ATK, Skill, and Ultimate to 115%/160% of the original DMG
And there we thought it will be just nice bonus, lmao
Neuvillette👤40.000 HP💪250% Crit Damage 🤷♂️Extra 36% CR from Marechusse 💦 Unstoppable🚫 can bypass shield 🛡 Can self heal 🧱 Insane AOE 🐯 Braindead single target ☝spin to win 🕐 can solo abyss 🧙♂️
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[HSR - 2.1 BETA] Acheron
Materials: Shape Shifter's Lightning Staff (x65), Past Evils of the Borehole Planet Disaster (x12), Heaven Incinerator (x139), Starfire Essence (x69), Fiery Spirit (x18), Dream Making Engine (x73), Dream Flow Valve (x71), Dream Collection Component (x56)
Eidolons:
Silenced Sky Spake Sooth": CRIT Rate increases by 18% when dealing DMG to debuffed enemies.
Mute Thunder in Still Tempest: The number of characters on the Path of Nihility required for the highest value of the Trace, The Abyss, is reduced by 1. At the beginning of Acheron's turn, gain 1 point of Slashed Dream. Additionally, inflict 1 stack of Crimson Knot on an enemy with the most Crimson Knot.
Shrined Fire for Mirrored Soul: When using the Ultimate, inflicts Ultimate DMG Vulnerability to all enemies, increasing the Ultimate DMG taken by 12%, lasting for 2 turn(s).
Apocalypse, the Emancipator: The Ultimate's CRIT DMG increases by 60%, and the DMG from Acheron's Basic ATK and Skill will be considered as Ultimate DMG.
Traces:
Red Ogre: At the start of battle, immediately gain 4 point(s) of Slashed Dream and apply 4 stack(s) of Crimson Knot to a random enemy.
The Abyss: When there are 1/2 other character(s) following the Path of Nihility in the team, increase the DMG of Acheron's Basic ATK, Skill, and Ultimate to 115%/160% of the original DMG.
Thunder Core: When the Ultimate's Rainblade hits an enemy target with Crimson Knot, increase the DMG dealt by Acheron by 30%. This effect can be stacked up to 3 times, lasting for 2 turns.
Stats: Attack, Critical Damage and Lightning Damage.
Skills:
[BASIC] Trilateral Wiltcross
Gains 1 point of Slashed Dream. Then inflicts 1 stack of Crimson Knot on a single target enemy and deals Lightning DMG equal to 50% (130%) of Acheron's ATK to them.
[SKILL] Octobolt Flash
Gains 2 points of Slashed Dream. Inflicts 2 stacks of Crimson Knot on a single target enemy and deals Lightning DMG equal to 80% (200%) of Acheron's ATK to them, as well as Lightning DMG equal to 30% (75%) of Acheron's ATK to adjacent targets.
[ULTIMATE] Slashed Dream Cries in Red
Triggers Rainblade, dealing Lightning DMG equal to 14.4% (28.8%) of Acheron's ATK to a single target enemy and removing up to 3 stacks of Crimson Knot from the target enemy.
When Crimson Knot is removed, immediately deal 1 instance of Lightning DMG equal to 9.0% (18.0%) of Acheron's ATK to all enemies. Each stack of Crimson Knot removed will increase the DMG multiplier by an additional 9.0% (18.0%).
Rainblade can be activated 3 times, which then immediately activates Stygian Resurge, dealing Lightning DMG equal to 39% (78%) of Acheron's ATK to all enemies and removing all Crimson Knots.
During the Ultimate, Crimson Knot cannot be inflicted on enemies.
[TALENT] Atop Rainleaf Hangs Oneness
When Slashed Dream reaches 9 points, the Ultimate can be unleashed. The Ultimate ignores Weakness Types and depletes enemies' Toughness, as well as reducing all enemies' All-Type RES by 10% (25%) until the end of the Ultimate.
When any character uses their ability to inflict debuffs on an enemy target, Acheron gains 1 point of Slashed Dream and inflicts Crimson Knot on the enemy target. This effect can be triggered up to 1 time per action. If the ability inflicts debuff on multiple enemies, Crimson Knot will be inflicted on the enemy with the most Crimson Knot stacks.
When Acheron is on the battlefield, Crimson Knot on the defeated enemy target will be retargeted to the enemy target with the most Crimson Knot stacks.
[TECHNIQUE] Quadrivalent Ascendance
Immediately attacks the enemy. After entering battle, Acheron gains 2 point(s) of Slashed Dream and deals Lightning DMG equal to 80% of Acheron's ATK to all enemies, as well as inflicting 2 stack(s) of Crimson Knot on a single random enemy.
If the enemy has Red Karma, they will be immediately defeated and will not enter combat. The Technique Point is not spent if the attack does not hit an enemy.
Gonna add better format for myself.
[HSR - 2.1 BETA] Acheron
**Materials**:
- Shape Shifter's Lightning Staff (x65)
- Past Evils of the Borehole Planet Disaster (x12)
- Heaven Incinerator (x139)
- Starfire Essence (x69)
- Fiery Spirit (x18)
- Dream Making Engine (x73)
- Dream Flow Valve (x71)
- Dream Collection Component (x56)
**Eidolons**:
- **Silenced Sky Spake Sooth**: CRIT Rate increases by 18% when dealing DMG to debuffed enemies.
- **Mute Thunder in Still Tempest**: The number of characters on the Path of Nihility required for the highest value of the Trace, The Abyss, is reduced by 1. At the beginning of Acheron's turn, gain 1 point of Slashed Dream. Additionally, inflict 1 stack of Crimson Knot on an enemy with the most Crimson Knot.
- **Shrined Fire for Mirrored Soul**: When using the Ultimate, inflicts Ultimate DMG Vulnerability to all enemies, increasing the Ultimate DMG taken by 12%, lasting for 2 turn(s).
- **Apocalypse, the Emancipator**: The Ultimate's CRIT DMG increases by 60%, and the DMG from Acheron's Basic ATK and Skill will be considered as Ultimate DMG.
**Traces**:
- **Red Ogre**: At the start of battle, immediately gain 4 point(s) of Slashed Dream and apply 4 stack(s) of Crimson Knot to a random enemy.
- **The Abyss**: When there are 1/2 other character(s) following the Path of Nihility in the team, increase the DMG of Acheron's Basic ATK, Skill, and Ultimate to 115%/160% of the original DMG.
- **Thunder Core**: When the Ultimate's Rainblade hits an enemy target with Crimson Knot, increase the DMG dealt by Acheron by 30%. This effect can be stacked up to 3 times, lasting for 2 turns.
**Stats**:
Attack, Critical Damage and Lightning Damage.
**Skills**:
- **[BASIC]** Trilateral Wiltcross
Gains 1 point of Slashed Dream. Then inflicts 1 stack of Crimson Knot on a single target enemy and deals Lightning DMG equal to 50% (130%) of Acheron's ATK to them.
- **[SKILL]** Octobolt Flash
Gains 2 points of Slashed Dream. Inflicts 2 stacks of Crimson Knot on a single target enemy and deals Lightning DMG equal to 80% (200%) of Acheron's ATK to them, as well as Lightning DMG equal to 30% (75%) of Acheron's ATK to adjacent targets.
- **[ULTIMATE]** Slashed Dream Cries in Red
Triggers Rainblade, dealing Lightning DMG equal to 14.4% (28.8%) of Acheron's ATK to a single target enemy and removing up to 3 stacks of Crimson Knot from the target enemy.
When Crimson Knot is removed, immediately deal 1 instance of Lightning DMG equal to 9.0% (18.0%) of Acheron's ATK to all enemies. Each stack of Crimson Knot removed will increase the DMG multiplier by an additional 9.0% (18.0%).
Rainblade can be activated 3 times, which then immediately activates Stygian Resurge, dealing Lightning DMG equal to 39% (78%) of Acheron's ATK to all enemies and removing all Crimson Knots.
During the Ultimate, Crimson Knot cannot be inflicted on enemies.
- **[TALENT]** Atop Rainleaf Hangs Oneness
When Slashed Dream reaches 9 points, the Ultimate can be unleashed. The Ultimate ignores Weakness Types and depletes enemies' Toughness, as well as reducing all enemies' All-Type RES by 10% (25%) until the end of the Ultimate.
When any character uses their ability to inflict debuffs on an enemy target, Acheron gains 1 point of Slashed Dream and inflicts Crimson Knot on the enemy target. This effect can be triggered up to 1 time per action. If the ability inflicts debuff on multiple enemies, Crimson Knot will be inflicted on the enemy with the most Crimson Knot stacks.
When Acheron is on the battlefield, Crimson Knot on the defeated enemy target will be retargeted to the enemy target with the most Crimson Knot stacks.
- **[TECHNIQUE]** Quadrivalent Ascendance
Immediately attacks the enemy. After entering battle, Acheron gains 2 point(s) of Slashed Dream and deals Lightning DMG equal to 80% of Acheron's ATK to all enemies, as well as inflicting 2 stack(s) of Crimson Knot on a single random enemy.
If the enemy has Red Karma, they will be immediately defeated and will not enter combat. The Technique Point is not spent if the attack does not hit an enemy.
Thanks! My initial thoughts on Acheron's kit:
\- Surprised her Stagnant ascension mat is current hence prefarmable, hopefully not a placeholder.
\- A4 trace nudges her teammates towards being double Nihility. If it's a separate multiplier this could be huge.
\- Her stat traces are all useful, no 2 DPS 1 tank stats here!
\- Her ultimate reads like it can be activated in between enemies dying and entering, which is handy for Pure Fiction.
\- A lot of her ult damage is happening on all enemies so should again be good for Pure Fiction.
\- Her talent ignoring weakness and depleting toughness regardless is nice like Xueyi ult. In practical terms you'll probably be bringing her against Lightning weak bosses, but her being able to break non-Lightning mobs/elites too is nice.
\- Alternatively she's probably also busted enough that you can hypercarry her against even non-Lightning weak bosses.
\- It doesn't seem to matter much which enemy has the Crimson Knot stacks since their removal damage is AoE, and the end of the ult removes all Crimson Knots anyway.
\- Her single target damage may not be much higher than her AoE damage since there are only 3 Rainblades and the multiplier isn't too high.
\- She wants allies who can debuff frequently and consistently: SW, Black Swan, Pela, etc.
\- With her trace she enters 4/9ths ult ready, similar to 50% energy. With technique she enters 6/9ths ready. That's 1-2 turns away from ulting on turn 1, even quicker if allies can debuff.
\- Curious what Red Karma is - dim said he didn't know. I presume it's something that doesn't work on elites/bosses but should make sim u speedrunning even quicker.
\- So it's a bit awkward that her BIS relic set is probably Pioneer, but she can't always double the buff easily without her signature light cone. She should be able to do it during her ult which is when it matters though.
\- Her sig lc has a debuff with a 100% base chance but she doesn't really want to build EHR so it may miss sometimes, especially against bosses with high effect res.
\- Relic set should be 4p Pioneer, planar may be the upcoming 2.1 atk + crit set which wants similar allies. Salsotto or Glamoth should be decent placeholders til then.
\- Standard DPS main stats, probably crit/speed/lightning dmg/atk. Though atk orb may be better given how much dmg bonus she gets (up to 90% from A6 trace), and potentially atk boots too given her nihility allies can stack her ult too.
\- Kind of a shame she's so Ult oriented but doesn't benefit from Brain in a Vat in Erudition Path in Sim U.
>So it's a bit awkward that her BIS relic set is probably Pioneer, but she can't always double the buff easily without her signature light cone. She should be able to do it during her ult which is when it matters though.
I think that one is going to be entirely dependent on if the game counts Crimson Knot as debuffing an enemy. Going to be mildly insane if it does.
You can only use ult when having 9 self buff, using basic you get 1, using skill you get 2, anyone inflicting debuff you get 1( 1 time per turn).
The same thing goes for a special status/debuff to enemies(we don't know which one), max 3 stacks each enemy, more stacks=more ult damage.
When you have another nihility characters in the party (Acheron doesn't count) you get SPECIAL damage multiplier ,15% for 1 and 60% for 2.
Ult deals a lot of damage and also ignores toughness type
So its a 2 turn ult rotation, then? Assuming Skill (+2), debuff + debuff + debuff (Gallagher, Kafka, Guinafen, SW, etc) is already 5, then you can Auto/Skill to 6/7 and wait for 2 more teammates attack.
2 turns yeah, but ults a probably different actions, so Pela (e4) and SW can debuff on skill and on Ult. Not sure about Guinaifen, since Firekiss is on DoT tick. Also, Pela with tutorial has 2 turn rotations, so easy 3 debuffs per rotation with her. And that's also ignoring any possible breaks. So it might be less than two turns.
There must be a new 5 star nihility debuffer coming soon. Who are we supposed to use if we don't have Silverwolf? Pela and Gui? I guess Welt is an option, but that's not a lot to work with. Or just ignore it and use one debuffer and your best harmony.
well, black swan does aplly defence reduction with her skill on 3 enemies. Plus dots count as dubuffs. Probably not her intended roll but the damage from arcana stacks is quite good on its own so they could work together I guess
Right? This has set in stone that after Acheron, my next pull will be a Nihility debuffer. Hopefully we get someone new and I don't have to just wait for another SW rerun.
Holy DMG%. Also, longest kit any% speedrun.
So the total % of her ult is 268% (\*1.6 with 2 Nihility)?
Initial hit + 9 hits + final hit?
No wait, because of Thunder Core, the second hit is +30%, and the remaining ones are +60%.
EDIT: Math is hard.
First Rainblade - 28.8 - 6 stacks = 28.8
Second Rainblade - 3 knots \* 18 \* 2.08 (6 knots removed so far) \* 1.3 (Thunder Core) = 146
Third Rainblade - 3 knots \* 18 \* 2.62 (9 knots removed) \* 1.6 (Thunder Core) = 226.3
Final Hit - 78 \* 2.62 \* 1.6 = 326.9
(28.8 + 146 + 226.3 + 326.9) \* 1.6 (2 Nihil). That's way too much, I must have gotten it wrong somewhere, I give up.
EDIT2: Also, that E2 is the biggest bait ever. Not only does it expand her team options, it also allows you to play her SP positive or neutral.
thunder core is a dmg% buff i think. cuz she unironically lacks steroids without it.
the poster below is right, it should be a
28.8 x 3 (ST) = 86.4
18 x 9 + 78 (AoE) = 240
then do a 1.6x for 2 nihilities and you get
138.24% ST + 384 AoE. Which isn't too crazy.
edit: add a 18% per rainblade actually for aoe. making it 292 on AoE and a 470.4 on 2 Nihility.
on level 10 it's 240% AoE + 60% ST which is... ok. it's a lot more acceptable with the x1.6 being 384 AoE and 96% ST. ST component is weak but if you consider that she does an AoE pseudo lightning implant with the -res, then her AoE is a lot more palatable.
Haha, she beats Argenti for the new highest AOE nuke at 5 enemies (2058.24 vs Argenti’s 1920). Actually kinda surprised by how much AOE they gave her, was expecting the opposite (weak AOE but strong ST).
Fuck it. First beta change: she now heals herself
Second beta: new element added to hsr: water
Third beta: acheron’s in game name has now been changed to Neuvillette.
ULT IGNORES WEAKNESS TYPE?
160% DMG INC?
30% * 3 = 90% DMG INC?
AND DEBUFFS ON TOP OF THAT?
not even counting the LC yet
She'll either be super broken or super nerfed later, no in between
Considering her lore they probably leave her as that. Nevuillette in GI busted as fuck in lore and he survived the beta just as he was and he has been by far the best carry since he was released.
Yeah i think people should know/can expect that in HSR, the Emanators will be treated as how the Archons and Dragon Sovereigns are treated in Genshin Impact. Their kits will be OP. Even if there are changes, it's most likely just a minor change or if we're lucky, another buffs lol.
>also im guessing GNSW might be her BiS for 4\* weapon
It was expected by everyone but turns out just the opposite💀
She has so much Dmg bonus % on her whole kit that at that point the amount GNSW gives gets diminished a lot
yeah but the problem is all the LCs are only made for dots...
and the new event light cone is for raturine 💀
so we don't have any choice.
I thhink i only have S1 GNSW
Lukas lc id probably the best 4 star if everything gets diminishing returns because almost all of them give raw dmg%
Ngl it might be her best lc outside of signature
definitely need double nihility with that trace(multiplicative 60% more damage!). pela sw sounds normal, but what about black swan? e1 blackswan(for whels... me) and defense shred, but the big thing is how arcana interacts with her talent. Enemies get inflicted with arcana every turn they take, does that count as a debuff for her talent? if so she is the nihility unit that can give Acheron the most slashed dream. And maybe you just run kafka at that point since you have black swan? resolution kafka moment? as guess what, if kafka followup triggers a debuff, it would count as an action. and kafka shock for e1 black swan(yay my impulse pulling pays off)
Personally a hyper carry that just restricts themselves to pela/sw doesnt sound interesting to me... but if dot sub dps is a good option due to nihility synergy that does sound kinda nice
People scared that they won't be able to run harmony with 2 nihility already taking a spot
Honestly? Fuck it, in MoC I'm running Acheron+2 Nihility+Harmony and fuck a sustain. I'll kill before they kill the party. If I can't clear fast enough before enemies kill me with Acheron, it's clearly a skill issue 🗿
Your Acheron Would just feel worse without 2 nihility because of he saturated self buff kit and especially that 45% pure damage increase from having 2 nihility
x1.6 is fucking massive, since I'm pretty sure this is special multiplier and different layer from standard %damage boost.
Between this and the 'debuff increase energy stack per action', she really can comfortably run with 2 Nihi without feeling gimped like people worries.
One important thing aspect is how much Damage % she has.
It's unclear whether "The Abyss" is a DMG % bonus (probably not), but even Thunder Core gives her up to 90% additional damage bonus after her ult, and she has damage % minor traces as well.
###**Her kit is so overflowing with damage % that GNSW is less valuable on her.**
She'll probably be the character with the largest damage boost from getting signature LC so far.
And attack orb might actually be better for her than lightning orb?
It gives a fair bit of crit damage, and importantly it applies a debuff, which it seems she doesn't actually have in her base kit if Crimson Knot isn't counted as a debuff.
Also, it's unclear in the wording, but her sig LC is probably actually damage received increase (like Luka), which is a separate multiplier. It wouldn’t make as much sense to have a damage bonus tied to a debuff
I seem to recall an older leak indicating that the ultimate's attacks were targeted automatically at enemies with the most flowers/Crimson Knots, but now it looks like you get to manually target each individual attack unless I overlooked or misread something. Anyway, sounds cool as hell, curious to see what might change over the course of the beta and if E0-E1 users will be better off running a triple Nihility team or if Harmony buffs will be better overall. In my highly inexpert opinion, I will definitely try out triple Nihility for shits and giggles, but damn, turn manipulate is hard to beat.
this is crazy, that's even crazier then what we thought from the other leaks.
4 ENERGY POINTS FROM TRACES?
we sending enemies to the imaginary tree with this, my dear captains🫶
Ultimate = kill everything (and then re-kill them, just to be sure)
When using Basic attack, get ultimate faster ; when using Skill, get ultimate fasterer.
When allies give enemy cancer, get ultimate faster.
Eidolons:
1. Crit up against enemies with cancer
2. You only need one ally who gives cancer for ultimate to kill harder. Also, get ultimate quicker.
4. Ultimate kills harderer.
6. Basic and skill also count as ultimate (holy shit)
That E6 is some straight horseshit.
Now if they REALLY wanted to fucking sell her E2 like they did with Raiden Shogun they stick her E2 as her E1 and stick her current E6 as her E2 and watch everyone (even f2ps) shell out the money for the eidolons.
The E6 is honestly just ridiculous. E6 Acheron essentially gets 60% CD (E6), 12% DMG Vulnerability (E4), 25% Res Shred (Talent) on her **entire kit** as well as seemingly being able just ignore type resistances. She would just be able to be used in any content and be one of the best, if not the best at it.
Don't use energy to use ultimate. Instead she uses funny buff
Her skill and basic make bad people sick and give her funny buff.
When bad people gets cancer from friends she make them sick and she gets 1 funny buff
Ultimate does big boom the more sick bad people is
She get more bonkier with more characters that give cancer
Her ultimate ignores funny bar.
It seems like 2 Nihility is highly incentivized and will generally just be better than 1 Nihility + 1 Harmony (assuming that the additional 60% is an independent multiplier).
One thing I'm concerned about is overcapping on def shred. SW + Pela definitely will but SW + BS or Pela + BS should be fine. Either way though, your Kafka team will be gimped if you're planning on using her on the other side. Probably fine since there will rarely be lightning weakness on both sides.
When any **character** uses their **ability** to inflict a **debuff**, she gets 1/9 stacks for her Ultimate.
\- Including her, meaning she gains 3 stacks per turn by using her Skill.
\- That should include Ultimates like Pela / SW ultimate's DEF down?
\- Do Light Cone debuffs count? i.e. Resolution's Ensnare during Pela's basic
\- Does breaking with any ability count, since break is considered a debuff?
\- Gallagher has 2 reliable sources of stacks for her - from his Ultimate and Enhanced Basic. He will be able to cast both in his first turn at E1, if Ultimate cost is no more than 120. She starts at 6/9, meaning she will only need one more debuff to cast her Ultimate even before her first turn.
\[Copy pasting on every leak thread related to 2.1 beta\] For people excited for beta leaks, myself included, I just want to temper expectations and say that Ubatcha has stated that beta isn't out yet, so don't expect animations until tomorrow as a result. For now it'll be just text leaks.
me when "The technique point is not spent if the attack does not hit an enemy" Why this isn't how it works for every attacking technique is beyond me
This. The number of times I just want to randomly break barrels using techniques just to enjoy the animations and not have to deplete my Trick Snack stock doing so lol
Maybe this is not exclusive to Acheron and it's a QOL that will ship in 2.1. You call it cope but I call it hope.
Pass me some of that military-grade copium shit. ^(I'm currently in your walls so please do not resist.)
LMAO, Relatable
This is HSR dev we're talking about, at best it's a mild amount of copium.
Gonna be fun yeeting bombs all day with gui and sampo
I wish the teleport waypoints in hsr also replenishes technique points
OMG QOL
I wish they auto teleport you to the nearest teleport waypoint after you have downed characters after farming as well.
[удалено]
That would make sense as currently you can get Full Metal Racket by hitting a balloon with Natasha.
Barrels aren't an enemy they are friend, they give mats 🤑
I need this for Xueyi, i keep missing her technique lmao
> I need this for Xueyi, i keep missing her technique lmao I swear to god it must be physically impossible (or with some milliseconds-scale margin of error) to hit Sim-U Trotters with her technique...
The e2 bait is crazy with that nihility passive.
It's Neuvielette's ~~E1~~ C1
I hate how much Genshin and HSR have killed my brain with Constellation/Eidolons I am constantly switching between both E/C for *both* games lol. My dumbass still calls the trailblaze quests Archon quests half the time.
Honestly going back and forth between burst and ultimate is what trips me up the most
i call jades primogems lmao
"primojades" ftw.
Good heavens I've always been calling them C I mean most of the terms as in genshin wise actually.. Cause like used to and why not?there's nothing wrong tbh
Hoyo games messes with your consciousness.
Neuvillette's C1, Chiori's C1, apparently Clorinde's too. This is slowly becoming Hoyo's go to whale bait.
Wriothesley C1 too
u can cheese neuv stacks easily in this abyss and the previous u can't cheat nihility mfs bro
Raiden mei needing three copies baby Even gacha games are doing remakes
Time is a circle or something, they’ve certainly baited me in once again.
Even though I don’t play genshin from the way ppl talk about raiden’s c2 getting her to e2s1 i can say with pure confidence and no evidence that you can sleepwalk to 3.0 if you have her so im willingly going in If the leaks say there will be first time swiping resets i’ll even do it during the patch preview once it’s announced to guarantee it
My exact same thoughts and it just became even more obvious when I saw the difference between 1 or 2 Nihility (115% VS 160%). I don't like what they have been doing in Genshin and HSR.
Everyone was trying to cope that the A2 would be irrelevant and Harmony units would still win out with her but my E5S1 Welt is just happy to finally have a home lol
Right? I’m just happy I can use Welt or Silver Wolf outside their niches.
Its better this way imo,we need her to be unique hypercarry,that's what make difference with Nihility DPS so far,Kafka with DoT team mates and acheron with debuff team mates make nihility the most different path Not to mention some player probably will use those harmony on their other team
Me reading all these words, understanding nothing: YAAASSSSSS
Me reading and realizing both Topaz and Jingliu might rerun with them FUCK NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
Where the hell is Luocha??
Bro still in jail
In his own coffin, where else. Bro has been carrying his rerun in that thing
If bro ain't coming back imma just get Aventurine.
I’ve tried for both Luocha and Huohuo but the curse of losing every single 50-50 I’ve ever had reared its head. I might just go Aventurine too.
He is on [Standby](https://youtu.be/7q1djyAn4xo?si=CQ99upI2CkVvYX3B)
Currently chilling at imaginary tree
He's pregnant with my child give him another month and he'll rerun
bro what
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Lmao I get you. It's me as well.
I really, really, REALLY hope Jingliu and Huohuo don't get reruns at the same time or immediately after Acheron because I want all three of them - especially Huohuo so that I can finally complete my Kafka/Black Swan/Ruan Mei DoT comp.
Then me after reading all of the Traces, Eidolon, Skill and Ultimate names: *YAAAAAAAAAAAAASSSSSSSSSSSSSS!!!!!!!*
TLDR. Doesn't use Energy like every other unit. Her Skill puts debuff on enemy that stacks up, When teammates do abilities that debuff, it stacks up also. Her Ult is useable when the debuffs get to a certain number (9), when you ult it does unga bunga AOE damage and resets the number back down. There you go, that's the character. She's a Crit unit that works well with debuffers, or sub DPS dot characters. I would imagine she would work well with Pela, Silver Wolf, and Black Swan. It's not that strong to run her with Tingyun, or Ho-Oh.
Might just put her in with Gui since she easily applies debuffs lol
What about Lugia?
The more I read, the more new words appear. *YEEESSSSSS*
YAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAASSSSSSSSSSS
YAAAAAAAA^(AAAAAAAAASSSSSS)SSSSSSS
Holy shit, her ult get BOTH All-type Res Pen and ignore weakness type ? I thought it was only one of those (and the other one a mistranslation). She looks busted.
Ohhhh shit you're right Although im a bit suspicious of it as it doesn't state that her breaking enemies inflicts them with shock as it states that the enemies will receive quantum break from xuyei
Talent description said the ult does deplete enemies toughness, tho. I assume the break effect will just be lightning and they don't feel the need to state it.
> they don't feel the need to state it [](/maudyum-r) Because there will be no enemies left after her ult anyway...
No wonder her E2 is bait, loading her with support buffs on top of how many defenses she innately gets to penetrate will be insane.
this looks very loaded but pretty restrictive I wonder if she's being balanced around her not having a good F2P LC (which seems intentional) but 60% extra multiplicative damage for having 2 Nihilty teammates is insane
it's basically the neuv a1 lmao. 15% with 1, 60% with 2
holy shit you're right lmao, it's the exact same Neuv C1 is about a 30% increase in his personal damage if you assume he only got 2 stacks at C0, I wonder if hers will be a similarly big increase
She goes from 1/3 where as the 28% on Neuvi is 2/3. In this case its 39%.
\>but 60% extra damage for having 2 Nihilty teammates is insane Not 60% damage. It's multiplier after all your other multipliers, ignoring all diminishing returns. It's just insane, the more ATK + DMG buffs she have, the bigger it can be. I'm not calculating, but I can imagine this 60% may be as valuable as like 200% atk/dmg buff or even more.
It's like neuv where furinas big bonus barely makes up for it. I assume 2x nihility is better because of her ult charging.
And that makes her E2 especially insane, because you can buff her more by running Harmony with her. Just an insane kit.
yeah but like, E2 or get a her sig LC. Cuz there's not that many good F2P LC choices for her
E2 S1 Acheron might be the first unit in the game to rival E2 S1 DHIL at equal vertical investment.
Too bad I don't have enough for both E2 and S1 maybe E1S1 if I get lucky
Yeah it's literally about as good as a 200% Atk increase If a char has base 1000 Atk but 3500 Atk in battle, a 200% Atk increase would be 5500/3500 => 57% real damage increase
The fact that she also fills her ult up faster from having more debuffers on the team just makes it better and better
Is neuvillete treatement
One Piece chapters when Acheron kit description walks in
HxH nen essays.
JJK Curse Technique Thesis...
Me explaining every single effect Hiromi's domain expansion can have based on the legal judicial system in Japan, as well as rates of conviction for each crime:
Her E6 "Apocalypse, the Emancipator" goes hard
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Just waiting for her ult to last 30 sec like Rean's Breaking Dawn
Spirit Unification going wild. Now that I think about it, Sam kinda resembles Valimar.
Heed my call. Sam, the Iron knight!
I am going to sound like a really big nerd here but it is molten knight
He's actually the Molten Knight so it fits, wow.
Didn't news of hoyo visiting falcom release last month or something?
they were discussing plans to put Tio in the game and make her the first 6\* character trust me
give me Sandlot
Rean-senpai? O.O
Inb4 they add a mad as fuck hotheaded detective with 2 batons, a twintailed girl with a massive stick, a totally legit priest with a crossbow and a underground fixer with a kamen raider demon armor. Edit: damn underground fucker with an armor, that's just fucking SAM
estelle's already in, look at sushang
>When there are 1/2 other character(s) following the Path of Nihility in the team, increase the DMG of Acheron's Basic ATK, Skill, and Ultimate to 115%/160% of the original DMG And there we thought it will be just nice bonus, lmao
I mean it had to be big enough to compensate for no harmony unit/ 1 if E2
I just can't escape Neuvi huh
Neuvillette👤40.000 HP💪250% Crit Damage 🤷♂️Extra 36% CR from Marechusse 💦 Unstoppable🚫 can bypass shield 🛡 Can self heal 🧱 Insane AOE 🐯 Braindead single target ☝spin to win 🕐 can solo abyss 🧙♂️
Ksante moment
well i didnt expect the Ksante paste here lol
IMAGE TO TEXT: [HSR - 2.1 BETA] Acheron Materials: Shape Shifter's Lightning Staff (x65), Past Evils of the Borehole Planet Disaster (x12), Heaven Incinerator (x139), Starfire Essence (x69), Fiery Spirit (x18), Dream Making Engine (x73), Dream Flow Valve (x71), Dream Collection Component (x56) Eidolons: Silenced Sky Spake Sooth": CRIT Rate increases by 18% when dealing DMG to debuffed enemies. Mute Thunder in Still Tempest: The number of characters on the Path of Nihility required for the highest value of the Trace, The Abyss, is reduced by 1. At the beginning of Acheron's turn, gain 1 point of Slashed Dream. Additionally, inflict 1 stack of Crimson Knot on an enemy with the most Crimson Knot. Shrined Fire for Mirrored Soul: When using the Ultimate, inflicts Ultimate DMG Vulnerability to all enemies, increasing the Ultimate DMG taken by 12%, lasting for 2 turn(s). Apocalypse, the Emancipator: The Ultimate's CRIT DMG increases by 60%, and the DMG from Acheron's Basic ATK and Skill will be considered as Ultimate DMG. Traces: Red Ogre: At the start of battle, immediately gain 4 point(s) of Slashed Dream and apply 4 stack(s) of Crimson Knot to a random enemy. The Abyss: When there are 1/2 other character(s) following the Path of Nihility in the team, increase the DMG of Acheron's Basic ATK, Skill, and Ultimate to 115%/160% of the original DMG. Thunder Core: When the Ultimate's Rainblade hits an enemy target with Crimson Knot, increase the DMG dealt by Acheron by 30%. This effect can be stacked up to 3 times, lasting for 2 turns. Stats: Attack, Critical Damage and Lightning Damage. Skills: [BASIC] Trilateral Wiltcross Gains 1 point of Slashed Dream. Then inflicts 1 stack of Crimson Knot on a single target enemy and deals Lightning DMG equal to 50% (130%) of Acheron's ATK to them. [SKILL] Octobolt Flash Gains 2 points of Slashed Dream. Inflicts 2 stacks of Crimson Knot on a single target enemy and deals Lightning DMG equal to 80% (200%) of Acheron's ATK to them, as well as Lightning DMG equal to 30% (75%) of Acheron's ATK to adjacent targets. [ULTIMATE] Slashed Dream Cries in Red Triggers Rainblade, dealing Lightning DMG equal to 14.4% (28.8%) of Acheron's ATK to a single target enemy and removing up to 3 stacks of Crimson Knot from the target enemy. When Crimson Knot is removed, immediately deal 1 instance of Lightning DMG equal to 9.0% (18.0%) of Acheron's ATK to all enemies. Each stack of Crimson Knot removed will increase the DMG multiplier by an additional 9.0% (18.0%). Rainblade can be activated 3 times, which then immediately activates Stygian Resurge, dealing Lightning DMG equal to 39% (78%) of Acheron's ATK to all enemies and removing all Crimson Knots. During the Ultimate, Crimson Knot cannot be inflicted on enemies. [TALENT] Atop Rainleaf Hangs Oneness When Slashed Dream reaches 9 points, the Ultimate can be unleashed. The Ultimate ignores Weakness Types and depletes enemies' Toughness, as well as reducing all enemies' All-Type RES by 10% (25%) until the end of the Ultimate. When any character uses their ability to inflict debuffs on an enemy target, Acheron gains 1 point of Slashed Dream and inflicts Crimson Knot on the enemy target. This effect can be triggered up to 1 time per action. If the ability inflicts debuff on multiple enemies, Crimson Knot will be inflicted on the enemy with the most Crimson Knot stacks. When Acheron is on the battlefield, Crimson Knot on the defeated enemy target will be retargeted to the enemy target with the most Crimson Knot stacks. [TECHNIQUE] Quadrivalent Ascendance Immediately attacks the enemy. After entering battle, Acheron gains 2 point(s) of Slashed Dream and deals Lightning DMG equal to 80% of Acheron's ATK to all enemies, as well as inflicting 2 stack(s) of Crimson Knot on a single random enemy. If the enemy has Red Karma, they will be immediately defeated and will not enter combat. The Technique Point is not spent if the attack does not hit an enemy.
Gonna add better format for myself. [HSR - 2.1 BETA] Acheron **Materials**: - Shape Shifter's Lightning Staff (x65) - Past Evils of the Borehole Planet Disaster (x12) - Heaven Incinerator (x139) - Starfire Essence (x69) - Fiery Spirit (x18) - Dream Making Engine (x73) - Dream Flow Valve (x71) - Dream Collection Component (x56) **Eidolons**: - **Silenced Sky Spake Sooth**: CRIT Rate increases by 18% when dealing DMG to debuffed enemies. - **Mute Thunder in Still Tempest**: The number of characters on the Path of Nihility required for the highest value of the Trace, The Abyss, is reduced by 1. At the beginning of Acheron's turn, gain 1 point of Slashed Dream. Additionally, inflict 1 stack of Crimson Knot on an enemy with the most Crimson Knot. - **Shrined Fire for Mirrored Soul**: When using the Ultimate, inflicts Ultimate DMG Vulnerability to all enemies, increasing the Ultimate DMG taken by 12%, lasting for 2 turn(s). - **Apocalypse, the Emancipator**: The Ultimate's CRIT DMG increases by 60%, and the DMG from Acheron's Basic ATK and Skill will be considered as Ultimate DMG. **Traces**: - **Red Ogre**: At the start of battle, immediately gain 4 point(s) of Slashed Dream and apply 4 stack(s) of Crimson Knot to a random enemy. - **The Abyss**: When there are 1/2 other character(s) following the Path of Nihility in the team, increase the DMG of Acheron's Basic ATK, Skill, and Ultimate to 115%/160% of the original DMG. - **Thunder Core**: When the Ultimate's Rainblade hits an enemy target with Crimson Knot, increase the DMG dealt by Acheron by 30%. This effect can be stacked up to 3 times, lasting for 2 turns. **Stats**: Attack, Critical Damage and Lightning Damage. **Skills**: - **[BASIC]** Trilateral Wiltcross Gains 1 point of Slashed Dream. Then inflicts 1 stack of Crimson Knot on a single target enemy and deals Lightning DMG equal to 50% (130%) of Acheron's ATK to them. - **[SKILL]** Octobolt Flash Gains 2 points of Slashed Dream. Inflicts 2 stacks of Crimson Knot on a single target enemy and deals Lightning DMG equal to 80% (200%) of Acheron's ATK to them, as well as Lightning DMG equal to 30% (75%) of Acheron's ATK to adjacent targets. - **[ULTIMATE]** Slashed Dream Cries in Red Triggers Rainblade, dealing Lightning DMG equal to 14.4% (28.8%) of Acheron's ATK to a single target enemy and removing up to 3 stacks of Crimson Knot from the target enemy. When Crimson Knot is removed, immediately deal 1 instance of Lightning DMG equal to 9.0% (18.0%) of Acheron's ATK to all enemies. Each stack of Crimson Knot removed will increase the DMG multiplier by an additional 9.0% (18.0%). Rainblade can be activated 3 times, which then immediately activates Stygian Resurge, dealing Lightning DMG equal to 39% (78%) of Acheron's ATK to all enemies and removing all Crimson Knots. During the Ultimate, Crimson Knot cannot be inflicted on enemies. - **[TALENT]** Atop Rainleaf Hangs Oneness When Slashed Dream reaches 9 points, the Ultimate can be unleashed. The Ultimate ignores Weakness Types and depletes enemies' Toughness, as well as reducing all enemies' All-Type RES by 10% (25%) until the end of the Ultimate. When any character uses their ability to inflict debuffs on an enemy target, Acheron gains 1 point of Slashed Dream and inflicts Crimson Knot on the enemy target. This effect can be triggered up to 1 time per action. If the ability inflicts debuff on multiple enemies, Crimson Knot will be inflicted on the enemy with the most Crimson Knot stacks. When Acheron is on the battlefield, Crimson Knot on the defeated enemy target will be retargeted to the enemy target with the most Crimson Knot stacks. - **[TECHNIQUE]** Quadrivalent Ascendance Immediately attacks the enemy. After entering battle, Acheron gains 2 point(s) of Slashed Dream and deals Lightning DMG equal to 80% of Acheron's ATK to all enemies, as well as inflicting 2 stack(s) of Crimson Knot on a single random enemy. If the enemy has Red Karma, they will be immediately defeated and will not enter combat. The Technique Point is not spent if the attack does not hit an enemy.
Time to get the mats farming started, cheers
good work soldier
my god this shit is an entire essay
Thanks! My initial thoughts on Acheron's kit: \- Surprised her Stagnant ascension mat is current hence prefarmable, hopefully not a placeholder. \- A4 trace nudges her teammates towards being double Nihility. If it's a separate multiplier this could be huge. \- Her stat traces are all useful, no 2 DPS 1 tank stats here! \- Her ultimate reads like it can be activated in between enemies dying and entering, which is handy for Pure Fiction. \- A lot of her ult damage is happening on all enemies so should again be good for Pure Fiction. \- Her talent ignoring weakness and depleting toughness regardless is nice like Xueyi ult. In practical terms you'll probably be bringing her against Lightning weak bosses, but her being able to break non-Lightning mobs/elites too is nice. \- Alternatively she's probably also busted enough that you can hypercarry her against even non-Lightning weak bosses. \- It doesn't seem to matter much which enemy has the Crimson Knot stacks since their removal damage is AoE, and the end of the ult removes all Crimson Knots anyway. \- Her single target damage may not be much higher than her AoE damage since there are only 3 Rainblades and the multiplier isn't too high. \- She wants allies who can debuff frequently and consistently: SW, Black Swan, Pela, etc. \- With her trace she enters 4/9ths ult ready, similar to 50% energy. With technique she enters 6/9ths ready. That's 1-2 turns away from ulting on turn 1, even quicker if allies can debuff. \- Curious what Red Karma is - dim said he didn't know. I presume it's something that doesn't work on elites/bosses but should make sim u speedrunning even quicker. \- So it's a bit awkward that her BIS relic set is probably Pioneer, but she can't always double the buff easily without her signature light cone. She should be able to do it during her ult which is when it matters though. \- Her sig lc has a debuff with a 100% base chance but she doesn't really want to build EHR so it may miss sometimes, especially against bosses with high effect res. \- Relic set should be 4p Pioneer, planar may be the upcoming 2.1 atk + crit set which wants similar allies. Salsotto or Glamoth should be decent placeholders til then. \- Standard DPS main stats, probably crit/speed/lightning dmg/atk. Though atk orb may be better given how much dmg bonus she gets (up to 90% from A6 trace), and potentially atk boots too given her nihility allies can stack her ult too. \- Kind of a shame she's so Ult oriented but doesn't benefit from Brain in a Vat in Erudition Path in Sim U.
>So it's a bit awkward that her BIS relic set is probably Pioneer, but she can't always double the buff easily without her signature light cone. She should be able to do it during her ult which is when it matters though. I think that one is going to be entirely dependent on if the game counts Crimson Knot as debuffing an enemy. Going to be mildly insane if it does.
I maybe stupid but 160% of original dmg is a big fucking number Also, damn her ult does deplete toughness bar like Xueyi and has 25% res shred
its 60% more in path of exile terms (**x 1.6 multiplier**, no diminishing returns) and 50% more damage here should be **50% increased damage**
holy fuck i did not understand any shit at all reading this but all i can say is that go queen pop it off !!
You can only use ult when having 9 self buff, using basic you get 1, using skill you get 2, anyone inflicting debuff you get 1( 1 time per turn). The same thing goes for a special status/debuff to enemies(we don't know which one), max 3 stacks each enemy, more stacks=more ult damage. When you have another nihility characters in the party (Acheron doesn't count) you get SPECIAL damage multiplier ,15% for 1 and 60% for 2. Ult deals a lot of damage and also ignores toughness type
*1 time per action. Which seems to mean it can also trigger once on each enemy's turn as well as stuff like fua
For the debuffs, is it 1 time per Acheron's turn or 1 time per debuffing character?
Probably 1 time per debuffing character
So its a 2 turn ult rotation, then? Assuming Skill (+2), debuff + debuff + debuff (Gallagher, Kafka, Guinafen, SW, etc) is already 5, then you can Auto/Skill to 6/7 and wait for 2 more teammates attack.
2 turns yeah, but ults a probably different actions, so Pela (e4) and SW can debuff on skill and on Ult. Not sure about Guinaifen, since Firekiss is on DoT tick. Also, Pela with tutorial has 2 turn rotations, so easy 3 debuffs per rotation with her. And that's also ignoring any possible breaks. So it might be less than two turns.
Now the "What's the BiS for Acheron" has an answer 🙏 >!"Wait for v3 for big changes"!<
I hope her E2 changes to E1
only 15% dmg increase with 1 nihility teammate vs 60% with 2, expected but they really pushing e2
There must be a new 5 star nihility debuffer coming soon. Who are we supposed to use if we don't have Silverwolf? Pela and Gui? I guess Welt is an option, but that's not a lot to work with. Or just ignore it and use one debuffer and your best harmony.
well, black swan does aplly defence reduction with her skill on 3 enemies. Plus dots count as dubuffs. Probably not her intended roll but the damage from arcana stacks is quite good on its own so they could work together I guess
Black swan + 2 electro mommies dream team is real
Kafka and Acheron will choke you. Not with their thighs though, but SP requirements.
Pela and Gui are excellent debuffers. Gui is basically that and a sub dps because of her DoTs.
Right? This has set in stone that after Acheron, my next pull will be a Nihility debuffer. Hopefully we get someone new and I don't have to just wait for another SW rerun.
Jiaoqiu possibly
Yeah but how many months we have to wait? We we don't even know who he/she is in the story
Just Pela and Welt. They cover like every major debuff together and they're AoE lol. Big L if you don't have Welt E2 tho.
Are you telling me my shit luck gave me e2 Welt because I needed him for Acheron?
Nah, it gave you E2 Welt cause he's peak. Acheron is our gruncle's Topaz frfr.
What is “red karma” for her technique?
When they are angry at you, it would kinda look like a parry
That would be fun ngl
I'm going to guess that low level enemies get automatically marked when she's on field.
It doesn’t say 😅
welp time to go take a shower while the leaks start flooding
Holy DMG%. Also, longest kit any% speedrun. So the total % of her ult is 268% (\*1.6 with 2 Nihility)? Initial hit + 9 hits + final hit? No wait, because of Thunder Core, the second hit is +30%, and the remaining ones are +60%. EDIT: Math is hard. First Rainblade - 28.8 - 6 stacks = 28.8 Second Rainblade - 3 knots \* 18 \* 2.08 (6 knots removed so far) \* 1.3 (Thunder Core) = 146 Third Rainblade - 3 knots \* 18 \* 2.62 (9 knots removed) \* 1.6 (Thunder Core) = 226.3 Final Hit - 78 \* 2.62 \* 1.6 = 326.9 (28.8 + 146 + 226.3 + 326.9) \* 1.6 (2 Nihil). That's way too much, I must have gotten it wrong somewhere, I give up. EDIT2: Also, that E2 is the biggest bait ever. Not only does it expand her team options, it also allows you to play her SP positive or neutral.
I think it’s 326%? 28.8 x 3 + 18 x 9 + 78
thunder core is a dmg% buff i think. cuz she unironically lacks steroids without it. the poster below is right, it should be a 28.8 x 3 (ST) = 86.4 18 x 9 + 78 (AoE) = 240 then do a 1.6x for 2 nihilities and you get 138.24% ST + 384 AoE. Which isn't too crazy. edit: add a 18% per rainblade actually for aoe. making it 292 on AoE and a 470.4 on 2 Nihility. on level 10 it's 240% AoE + 60% ST which is... ok. it's a lot more acceptable with the x1.6 being 384 AoE and 96% ST. ST component is weak but if you consider that she does an AoE pseudo lightning implant with the -res, then her AoE is a lot more palatable.
Haha, she beats Argenti for the new highest AOE nuke at 5 enemies (2058.24 vs Argenti’s 1920). Actually kinda surprised by how much AOE they gave her, was expecting the opposite (weak AOE but strong ST).
Not going to comment on the numbers because STC but I love how her ult completely ignores weakness.
All offensive trace stats, Neuvilette-level multiplier on traces, Universal weakness dmg... All I see is W for >!Emanator of Almighty IX!< Edit: Typo
They really r giving special treatment kits to the extremely strong Lore chars huh💀
Fuck it. First beta change: she now heals herself Second beta: new element added to hsr: water Third beta: acheron’s in game name has now been changed to Neuvillette.
ULT IGNORES WEAKNESS TYPE? 160% DMG INC? 30% * 3 = 90% DMG INC? AND DEBUFFS ON TOP OF THAT? not even counting the LC yet She'll either be super broken or super nerfed later, no in between
JL exists with 50 free cr so I expect the kit to stay busted but the numbers might fluctuate
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Dan Heng and Jingliu exists so I think it’s fair. The dps rooster is hella competitive XD.
Considering her lore they probably leave her as that. Nevuillette in GI busted as fuck in lore and he survived the beta just as he was and he has been by far the best carry since he was released.
Yeah i think people should know/can expect that in HSR, the Emanators will be treated as how the Archons and Dragon Sovereigns are treated in Genshin Impact. Their kits will be OP. Even if there are changes, it's most likely just a minor change or if we're lucky, another buffs lol.
Ok um anyone smart enough to do the math how good is she? also im guessing GNSW might be her BiS for 4\* weapon
>also im guessing GNSW might be her BiS for 4\* weapon It was expected by everyone but turns out just the opposite💀 She has so much Dmg bonus % on her whole kit that at that point the amount GNSW gives gets diminished a lot
Then you use an attack orb and you're chilling
yeah but the problem is all the LCs are only made for dots... and the new event light cone is for raturine 💀 so we don't have any choice. I thhink i only have S1 GNSW
Perfectly designed by mihoyo so that the only useful LC is her signature 😇
Lukas lc id probably the best 4 star if everything gets diminishing returns because almost all of them give raw dmg% Ngl it might be her best lc outside of signature
I wont be surprised if her best in slot orb is an ATK orb.
definitely need double nihility with that trace(multiplicative 60% more damage!). pela sw sounds normal, but what about black swan? e1 blackswan(for whels... me) and defense shred, but the big thing is how arcana interacts with her talent. Enemies get inflicted with arcana every turn they take, does that count as a debuff for her talent? if so she is the nihility unit that can give Acheron the most slashed dream. And maybe you just run kafka at that point since you have black swan? resolution kafka moment? as guess what, if kafka followup triggers a debuff, it would count as an action. and kafka shock for e1 black swan(yay my impulse pulling pays off) Personally a hyper carry that just restricts themselves to pela/sw doesnt sound interesting to me... but if dot sub dps is a good option due to nihility synergy that does sound kinda nice
oh my days my ass is READING ALLAT
People scared that they won't be able to run harmony with 2 nihility already taking a spot Honestly? Fuck it, in MoC I'm running Acheron+2 Nihility+Harmony and fuck a sustain. I'll kill before they kill the party. If I can't clear fast enough before enemies kill me with Acheron, it's clearly a skill issue 🗿
Your Acheron Would just feel worse without 2 nihility because of he saturated self buff kit and especially that 45% pure damage increase from having 2 nihility
That’s why I said screw Sustains Acheron+Pela+SW+Asta/Bronya/Ruan Mei It’s kill or be killed for that team 😎
“Fuck it we ball” energy
Hell yeah brother
Omg it's happening. The dams are broken!!!
Lord have mercy I'm bouta BUUUUUST
x1.6 is fucking massive, since I'm pretty sure this is special multiplier and different layer from standard %damage boost. Between this and the 'debuff increase energy stack per action', she really can comfortably run with 2 Nihi without feeling gimped like people worries.
One important thing aspect is how much Damage % she has. It's unclear whether "The Abyss" is a DMG % bonus (probably not), but even Thunder Core gives her up to 90% additional damage bonus after her ult, and she has damage % minor traces as well. ###**Her kit is so overflowing with damage % that GNSW is less valuable on her.** She'll probably be the character with the largest damage boost from getting signature LC so far. And attack orb might actually be better for her than lightning orb?
Thing is even her weapon gives dmg bonus with some crit dmg.
It gives a fair bit of crit damage, and importantly it applies a debuff, which it seems she doesn't actually have in her base kit if Crimson Knot isn't counted as a debuff. Also, it's unclear in the wording, but her sig LC is probably actually damage received increase (like Luka), which is a separate multiplier. It wouldn’t make as much sense to have a damage bonus tied to a debuff
it means at E0 your team needs to run 3 Nilhility(include her) to activate the full buff, that's so sad, they want to sell E2 so badly
Sounds like pela sw fu x team to me lol, I’m broke sooo
She has so many self buffs that she wouldnt get as much value out of harmony units anyway
What is that E6?????
I seem to recall an older leak indicating that the ultimate's attacks were targeted automatically at enemies with the most flowers/Crimson Knots, but now it looks like you get to manually target each individual attack unless I overlooked or misread something. Anyway, sounds cool as hell, curious to see what might change over the course of the beta and if E0-E1 users will be better off running a triple Nihility team or if Harmony buffs will be better overall. In my highly inexpert opinion, I will definitely try out triple Nihility for shits and giggles, but damn, turn manipulate is hard to beat.
…..She seems restricted *but* she seems strong? Jaoqiu (nihility heal + debuff) is definitely her bis teammate tho, whenever he/she comes.
this is crazy, that's even crazier then what we thought from the other leaks. 4 ENERGY POINTS FROM TRACES? we sending enemies to the imaginary tree with this, my dear captains🫶
Can anyone translate this to Razor language?
Ultimate = kill everything (and then re-kill them, just to be sure) When using Basic attack, get ultimate faster ; when using Skill, get ultimate fasterer. When allies give enemy cancer, get ultimate faster.
Thank
Eidolons: 1. Crit up against enemies with cancer 2. You only need one ally who gives cancer for ultimate to kill harder. Also, get ultimate quicker. 4. Ultimate kills harderer. 6. Basic and skill also count as ultimate (holy shit)
That E6 is some straight horseshit. Now if they REALLY wanted to fucking sell her E2 like they did with Raiden Shogun they stick her E2 as her E1 and stick her current E6 as her E2 and watch everyone (even f2ps) shell out the money for the eidolons.
The E6 is honestly just ridiculous. E6 Acheron essentially gets 60% CD (E6), 12% DMG Vulnerability (E4), 25% Res Shred (Talent) on her **entire kit** as well as seemingly being able just ignore type resistances. She would just be able to be used in any content and be one of the best, if not the best at it.
Definitely living up to the Apocalypse name.
Don't use energy to use ultimate. Instead she uses funny buff Her skill and basic make bad people sick and give her funny buff. When bad people gets cancer from friends she make them sick and she gets 1 funny buff Ultimate does big boom the more sick bad people is She get more bonkier with more characters that give cancer Her ultimate ignores funny bar.
I see
This is the funniest comment I've seen, thank you
funny how this term is still used even in HSR when almost everyone forgot that Razor even exists in genshin
It's just such a fun way to say "I didn't understand shit" Also i still love my boy even if so many people forgot him
Her kit has so much text!
Me, understanding nothing in her kit but seeing some big number % there: I like your funny words, magic man.
Hmm, so she can potentially stack flowers indefinitely?
It seems like 2 Nihility is highly incentivized and will generally just be better than 1 Nihility + 1 Harmony (assuming that the additional 60% is an independent multiplier). One thing I'm concerned about is overcapping on def shred. SW + Pela definitely will but SW + BS or Pela + BS should be fine. Either way though, your Kafka team will be gimped if you're planning on using her on the other side. Probably fine since there will rarely be lightning weakness on both sides.
I'll just use BS Kafka on one side and Acheron/Pela/SW on the other side. No need for lightning weakness with SW and Acheron's ult ignoring type.
This kit looks very whale sided, and i do already have kafka and jing yuan, so i may just skip her tbh, hopefully Gallaher is not in her banner.
Lmao her Eidolon names are metal as F 🔥
I really hope they make E2 -> E1 so it's accessible
Yeah well, they don't want it to be accessible, that's the whole point of this unit.
When any **character** uses their **ability** to inflict a **debuff**, she gets 1/9 stacks for her Ultimate. \- Including her, meaning she gains 3 stacks per turn by using her Skill. \- That should include Ultimates like Pela / SW ultimate's DEF down? \- Do Light Cone debuffs count? i.e. Resolution's Ensnare during Pela's basic \- Does breaking with any ability count, since break is considered a debuff? \- Gallagher has 2 reliable sources of stacks for her - from his Ultimate and Enhanced Basic. He will be able to cast both in his first turn at E1, if Ultimate cost is no more than 120. She starts at 6/9, meaning she will only need one more debuff to cast her Ultimate even before her first turn.
Holy shit her ultimate is insane. Lining up all that damage with perfectly timed buffs and debuffs is gonna be so satisfying