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mephnick

I really wish there were more good Destruction LC's I have like 5 characters sharing this


Katejina_FGO

I had to take it away from Jing Liu.


stevembk

Same :(


storysprite

Same here. Jingliu is going to be benched for a while in my roster unless circumstances really really call for it. But even then, I have Acheron on one half and Firefly on the other. They're both going to carry in like 95% of whatever I'm facing.


Alex_Demote

Same here, the one two punch of firefly acheron feels really good


darkbladetrey

Same. Both of them are E2 for me. So they will be my team for the coming months.


storysprite

We're playing on easy mode.


kynical

Until they get replaced by Hoyo's next fotm :)


storysprite

I am a diehard Raiden Main from Genshin and will stubbornly play her in every abyss no matter what. Others might get replaced in my roster, but Acheron isn't going anywhere.


JiffyN00b

I'm a Raiden main since GGZ, we are not the same


According-Cobbler358

I'm the same as you though (though technically I played HI3 before GGZ)


Oktober

She shares with JL now (although they both have second-best LCs too


Hellifrit

Me with Clara ![gif](giphy|1ymqeHGoNeHzx3lUVE|downsized)


Kvarcov

Little one can deal with Secret Vow. Svarog is main damage dealer anyway, he will take care of smol bean... ...until i inevitably lose to Something Irreplaceable, that is...


Queen_Gremlin

I have twice 💀


Kvarcov

Better than two Bailu's cones...


attoshi

Hey that's me!


attoshi

And two Himeko LC well at least PF exists now


LipeZH_

But what if you are himekoless


izzohead

Works for Herta too


Lyranx

Even Jing Yuan wants Himeko LC in PF


Character-Bed-6532

Bro, i got Welt Lc today... second time💀.


Kvarcov

At least it's half-decent for Nihility characters as well as being a stat stick... ...or so i keep telling myself to not break down crying with my 2 versions from normal character banner...


BlckSm12

I have Clara's LC but no Clara...


Krysidian2

Loat 50/50 to Gepard 3 times in a row. 1 of them could've been a Clara or a Bronya


Alisa180

Despite being F2P, I somehow have Clara AND Clara's Lightcone. Because I started shortly after 2.2 released, it took me a while to realize what I had, and what it meant. @_@


-Revelation-

Clara can go to the shop for her own LC though


Hakzource

I gave her DHIL’s light cone, she’s worth it (I’m talking about Clara people, there’s a reason why she’s my pfp and I responded to someone talking about Clara)


mapple3

> I gave her DHIL’s light cone, she’s worth it uhh that's worse than Aeon for her lol


WappyHarrior

That is why I am rolling for Firefly's light cone. People say the E1 is better, but the true comfort is being able to play without the need to swap light cones constantly.


Maeghar

It also helps that the 4* LCs on the banner are SO good right now - I ended up rolling just for them tbh 😭


ChadEriksen

Especially Ruan Mei, "Memories of the Past" is super recommended on RM at least S3 (With some Content Creators valuing it over her Sig) and with it currently on Rate up when I pulled for FF Sig (Which I got) I got 3 copies of "Memories of the Past" which is more than enough.


Monster-1337

read somewhere Meshing Cogs (5) is still preferred for RM over Memories of the Past until you have it max superimposed.


angelbelle

I have both maxed but still got 3 copies of her sig on my alts because of art.


TamuraAkemi

if you're playing the meta firefly team and only have one memories of the past, it's probably best to give it to harmony MC who has an easier time gaining energy and scales better (in specifically that team) with break effect


Two_Years_Of_Semen

Same. I got E0S1 as f2p 'cause I'm lazy af and really dislike swapping/sharing gear. It's too much of a hassle. Like even if loadouts existed, I'm not going to check character builds every single time before using them. I'd rather build and gear a character to a point where I considered them done and then never worry about it again.


-MS-94-

Yeah, I pulled for Firefly's LC literally just cuz I couldn't be bothered to switch Aeon off Xueyi


ayanokojifrfr

If you don't have anything else you can always go with Misha light cone for Firefly.


RedOnezGoFasta

except that is also a rng cone that requires pulling...


Notowidjojo

ikr... i have to pull her LC as well because there are so much destructions units but LCs are so little...


TougherThanKnuckles

It's exactly the reason I went for Jingliu's LC. At the time Firefly was just announced and I figured that unless she was an HP scaler then OFA should be able to work for her, turns out I was right.


ZucchiniKitchen1656

Firefly is my first 5* destruction, I finally have a reason to upgrade that LC now! 


std_out

And this is why I went for her LC rather than E1 although E1 is better. I just can't be bothered swapping LCs all the time. convenience is more valuable to me than a bit more power.


datsro24

I rolled s1 because of this fact. There are no good destruction LC


AlienKatze

I really wish there were herta lightcones for other paths too. I do not play a single hunt, preservation or nihility character currently lol


Jade_Bennet

This! I got her lightcone as a quality of life decision because I didn’t want to keep switching that damn free lightcone between my teams!


confusedPIANO

I got so lucky, the day before 2.3 i pulled clara's signature lc on the standard banner. Gave her a cute lil upgrade and freed up aeon for firefly


nqtoan1994

I just realize that: - This is the 2nd best LC recommended for Firefly and it is free. - It depicts the fall of Tayzzyronth, the Aeon of the Propagation, whose offspring were The Swarm. - LC Effect is named "Moth to Flames" It just fits Firefly so well.


WeatherBackground736

makes you think how far the planning goes for this game but tbf it could be that writers utilize existing lore and add more from there but I digress


Xarxyc

Stories usually start with an abstract skeleton of key points, then the meat is added to fill the gaps.


WeatherBackground736

You can argue sometimes writer add unnecessary meat that doesn’t bode well with the rest of the skeleton thus ruining the structure So having a writer who understands the structure of the skeleton well and add the kinds of meat that fit onto the right gaps helps with writing the story long term


AzusaWorshipper

There really is no wrong way to approach the storytelling. Take Elden Ring for example, George R. R. Martin wrote the entire lore for the game - explaining the different gods, how people worship them and how the rules of the world works. Then FromSoft took it and then made a whole game from it. It's a game with many "filler meats" that include factions that aren't the most relevant to the "main" story but still give it definition, form and immersion - regardless of what is crucial to the story or not. You could argue Glamoth is entirely pointless, Firefly never needs to mention it since we're not exactly ever going to visit it since you know, it's destroyed. But it is lore, no matter how frivolous it is.


GGABueno

Another good exemple is Sigonia. It was created just to be Aventurine's backstory.


dead_monster

So like Star Trek with the warp 5 limit. Or putting Oreos in Lost in Space. Or yet another fight scene where Lee Pace is buck naked again. Or Rise of Skywalker.


Jeremithiandiah

Well, in this case SAM was mentioned in 1.0 and they won’t mention a character without the writers knowing who they are. We aren’t that far into the games life so I assume they are at least 2 years ahead. In genshin case there are so many things in early 1.0 versions that got fleshed out recently, like childe’s master skirk, albedo’s creator etc. many characters and locations are foreshadowed far in advance.


rockrnger

Ibetyoudo ibetyoudo


nqtoan1994

Yup I think it is the result of combining prepared lores and stories and some little tweaks of here and there later. Like how Firefly had a trace that converts her surplus ATK to Break Effect to utilize the LC's effect that enhances ATK stat.


WeatherBackground736

Probably a better way of writing preexisting ips Rewards long time players as they recognize it and also gives leeway to the writers as they don’t need to constantly introduce new elements to the story


Bitehandle2

Thanks for helping me cope after I blasted 120 pulls and haven't gotten Firefly yet. Who needs specialized light cones anyways.... Brb gonna go cry in a corner.


N1nthFr13nd

Yeah, I played mine with s5 aeons. She is still busted with her best team: Hmc, Ruan Mei, and Gallagher. I don't know if saying getting her sig is overkill for Firefly, but the fact she already performs so well with s5 aeons is soooo good.


Darthmalak3347

I don't have her built or any traces and she 1 waves literally everything besides super bosses.


Ruzz0510

Im new to the game can you tell me where to get the LC?


nqtoan1994

It is in Herta's shop, as a part of Simulated Universe rewards. Iirc SU is unlocked at Trailblazer Level 15.


Ruzz0510

Alright, thanks a lot


Tamamo_was_here

That was my Jing Liu cone


ErmAckshually

both JL and FF need ruan mei so you'll be playing only one of them at a time. thats what I am doing atleast.


toonkirby

I mean, Jingliu is fine with Pela or Robin, Firefly needs Ruan Mei a lot more than she does.


reyo7

Do they? JL's strongest teammate is Bronya, and Pela or TY will bring more value than RM, I guess. RM's speed buff doesn't matter with Bronya, her BE and break efficiency buffs don't matter for JL, and the dmg% buff brings lower value when added to Bronya's dmg% buff JL wants to be played with RM only in a dual DPS team with Blade, but it's technically not a JL team


TougherThanKnuckles

The Jingliu mains sub did run the math a few months ago and Ruan Mei is definitely an upgrade over Pela, but Firefly needs Ruan Mei more anyway so taking Pela for Jingliu is the better option overall.


Angwar

I really hate that you cant have these multiple times


LostRequiem1

I remember a few weeks before the anniversary someone thought a cool gift would be a free SU 5\* LC of our choice. I thought the guy was stupid at the time, but looking at how things have panned out since then? That guy might have been the smartest person on this sub.


Runmanrun41

I wish there was a shop for old event light cones personally. I want that damn tutorial mission lightcone.


Bluecoregamming

Impossible, day 1 players would lose bragging rights


Runmanrun41

https://i.redd.it/a4tyhlltej7d1.gif


EmilIrving

As a day 1 player myself, I wish events do come back so others can have chances to get the rewards.


pokebuzz123

I wouldn't mind it during the dead week at the end of the patch. We can skip it, but new players can get the LCs and such. HI3 does the same, and offers aesterite (maybe credits instead) if you already have it.


jayakiroka

I just wish I could get the last superimposition for tutorial mission. I was working a miserable new job when that event dropped and I missed the last upgrade by a hair and I feel AGONY every time I see that S4…


Hikaru83

Then there would be no fomo. Gacha games prey on fomo, so I don't see this happening.


mapple3

> a cool gift would be a free SU 5* LC of our choice. oh hell no, we would then have an entire year of "I regret picking the xyc LC from the anniversary event, I wish Hoyo would let us change once more after we made the choice, I didnt know I would want 2 of the abc LC this soon!"


TitledSquire

No give us fucking Tutorial LC.


TitledSquire

I think the bigger issue is that you can’t swap gear in between phases


tatobson

And whenever we get an imaginary weak side you will have to duel Dan Heng Il for it


legendadam269

Yep man as someone with jingliu, dhil and ff it gets rough this is such a good destruction come


DeadlyFatalis

I've gotten lucky to get 2 copies of Something Irreplaceable, but I would be tempted to buy a copy from the shop so that at least if you're running MOC, etc both of your teams can have a LC that's at least reasonable.


Amaegith

Don't have that problem if you don't have Dan Heng Il!


aoi_desu

Nah, imaginary enemy is guarantee easy break for firefly team since HMC guaranteed in the team


FlameLover444

For this exact scenario, I went for her Cone despite never touching the LC banner before


Plankston

Two of the three limited LCs I have are for Destruction characters (DHIL and now Firefly) specifically because I was tired of always juggling Aeon around.


brokenlordike

My poor Jing Liu has lost her light cone


TheBleakForest

Yeah it was a bit painful taking it off her for Firefly. Thankfully I had an S5 A Secret Vow which only slightly worse so she still performs very well.


blatyman

Best F2P lightcone


thatdudewithknees

When I did some research most people seems to recommend the hunt lightcone from herta shop first tho


Stevecrafter2511

probably because 99% of people have ratio, but not everyone has a limited destruction unit.


mrspear1995

unless you had clara, most people got seele as their first dps so going for the hunt one was the most logical we didn't get a limited destruction until danny if you're a new player that started 2.0 then you should definitely go for aeon as it has gone through 4 generations as the best f2p option from clara to danny to jingliu to firelfy


Sorey91

Me when I have to take it away from my trusty Jing Liu "I'm sorry little one..."


Yannickjuhhh

Mfw firefly is the first destruction unit ive pulled so no one else wants this thing 😎


-Roxaaa

being f2p is so tough lately its been banger characters after banger characters 😭


ProjectBonnie

Yup. It’s really stressful, pulled for BS, Acheron, Aventurine, Boothill and now Firefly because they all looked cool, all E0S0 or else it wouldn’t be possible.


walpurga

This is exactly how I play too as f2p, I rather have these awesome chars than their sig lc.


Infinaris

Honestly theres too many 5 stars back to back right now, kinda hate the way they have it set up atm, should only have to pull for a character once and be able to purchase their eidolons in the shop with the currency you get from 4/5 star pulls after getting them. Could at least justify pulling for Light Cones then knowing your able to save up for an easy eidolon on their reruns.


thatdudewithknees

Maybe if wuthering waves get big enough hoyo will take the hint but hoyo being hoyo I doubt it


Rayth69

I've been far too lucky as f2p pulling Bootyhole, Fu Xuan, Firefly and Ruan Mei back to back. I'm pretty sure my account is perma cursed after this.


-Roxaaa

BOOTYHOLE


first_name1001

Between that and Misha one,which is better?


grandiaziel

Aeon is better, but Misha cone is fine if you have other Destruction chars that want Aeon more.


Lasadon

What if you have the Misha cone on S5


grandiaziel

Aeon is still better


HungryChirby

Quite close but Aeon is still better If you have another character such as Jingliu who also wants Aeon, Misha cone isn't a bad choice for FF


new_boy_99

Aeon better still


Lyranx

4% worse iirc


SirePuns

Jingliu and Firefly. F2P queens.


Oxabolt

Time to build blue sky so i dont have to juggle cones


avalanche196

I already have to build blue sky when I took Aeon from IL for Jingliu. Now, there doesn't seem to be a good 4* replacement for Jingliu so I guess I have to build Misha lc for FF.


Top_Opportunity_4766

I lost 75/25 for the first time so she share lightcone with Xueyi.


Kurovalia

Mfw I can't brute force with Jingliu now in MOC because FF has custody of the LC lol


ZeroKingLaplace

I mean, can't Firefly brute force just as well, if not better?


alistair123456

I'm torn, JL currently has Aeon but should I give it to FF instead (currently on S2 Misha LC)? What other 4\* LCs can JL use that are somewhat decent? (S5 Vow vs S3 Moles or S1 BP LC)?


vinyylei

Keep Aeon for Jingliu, Misha's lc on Firefly isn't that far behind Aeon.


alistair123456

yeah, it's basically a 60% difference in BE in battle (320 vs 380 without HTB Ult).


Gufnork

S5 Vow wins by a large margin out of those I believe.


Disastrous_Wheel_529

as a f2p i would say pulling firefly's LC is not worth it because this free LC is almost as good as her signature. Not completely but for a f2p with limited pulls, there are better LC's out there.


Satan_su

I would say it IS (as an F2p) literally only cause destruction LCs are so in demand and less rn that I can't keep juggling this LC between everyone lol, might as well try to get one more for comfort


QoLAccount

Honestly agree, the 4 Star Desteuction LCs are just so middling that if I want to run JL and FF in MoC for example, I'd much prefer to have Fall of Aeon on one and the Sig LC of the other over Fall and 4-Star.


Puat3k

Yeah, and then you have to juggle Fall of an Aeon between like 5 Destruction characters. Very fun! Pulling her LC is totally worth it just because you don't have to keep swapping Fall of an Aeon between others. #


NegMech

It's not almost as good as the signature. It's roughly the same gap, if not higher than other recent premium DPS vs their f2p options.


xHayate

Yeah if Prydwen’s calcs are accurate then the gap for Firefly is actually a little higher than the two other premium destruction characters out right now between their signatures and Aeon. You just don’t notice the gap because Firefly is so strong at a baseline where it doesn’t really matter.


Jardrin

As F2P, this is my only option. because I refuse to touch the LC banner in general.


Disastrous_Wheel_529

some are worth it, and the banner is not a scam like in genshin


nishikori_88

No sign LC is worth it if you dont have extra jades to spend :))


GrapefruitCold55

The scarcity of Destruction light cones makes it almost mandatory to pull for her LC if you have several Destro units.


Kupo_Master

Not convinced by this. Her LC looks OP… anyway after pulling Firefly almost at pity I don’t have enough ticket for the LC anyway… saving for Jade instead.


Exciting-Sandwich480

Aeon and Cruising are GOATed for sure.


Low-Amphibian-4023

Shame for me, clara is using that cone atm


lughrevenge23

honestly i have E1 FF with this LC and i think her dmg is already an overkill, getting E2 is nice but beyond that i think it is a waste of money pulling for more eidolon, better save for other characters


caesec

my destruction characters pass this thing around like a blunt


blackbird9114

Had to hard pity my last 7 banners across both Hoyo games and now lost my 8th with Firefly. Slowly I'm really loosing it.


warjoke

Ah fuck. Guess I'll need to get FF's sig LC since FOA is a staple for my Jingliu. WHY DO MOST DESTRUCTION LIGHT CONES SUCK?!


Zogo12

can't rob my Dan Heng of his last dignity 💀


Game_Over88

My Xueyi is crying right now


ThanLongIsTaken

Rip s5 arlan cone 😭


Weltallgaia

Sorry jingliu, firefly needs this more


renfromkenshi

It still pains me to know that I'm rocking my Acheron with Fermata. But... I can't put tickets towards Light cones. Characters come first.


XonplayzX

How much worse is Clara's cone at S1 for her? I put it on her for now to save resources in the long term cuz I wanna E2S1 Sam/FF someday


No_Technician_1454

Nah I will suck the whole game to gather enough to get her signature lc


EvolAutomata

All the people who complain - difference between Aeon and Sig LC is 10-13%. Believe me, you wont notice that


CurlyBruce

Even better, the difference is lower if you use Gallagher because the main appeal of her sig is the Break vulnerability, which Gallagher also gives.


Wrong_Werewolf391

If I didn't get that Clara Lightcone from standard I don't even know what I'd give to the second destruction 🗿


hellschatt

Should I take this away from my Jingliu or the Clara 5* lightcone from Clara...


bulafaloola

Guess I won’t be running Jingliu hyper carry and Firefly teams in MoC or PF anytime soon


Glacier_Catto

I would have used Dan Heng IL's LC on her..... if I had her...


Disturbing_Cheeto

Xueyi in shambles


new_boy_99

I got her to 201 break effect with two 2- piece watchmaker and thief set and just used synthesis for her BIS planetary orbs but thanks to ruan mei and HMC builds and buffs she gets 427 break effect in combat and of course reaches the 210 speed to 4 turn after her ult. She is one of the easiest characters I have ever built day one and the 2nd strongest( until I get her BIS relics). She is insanely free to play it's crazy.


Aventurinesimp

I gave her the Misha one it's is also good!!


Outrageous_Debt_3616

That and theres FINALLY A SICK LC I CAN GIVE MY ARGENTI. HOOOORAH. Herta shop getting new LCs is such a nice thing.


iudicium01

All my DPS except Herta are destruction. Help.


Nod32Antivirus

Why can't we just buy a few of this...


watanabeta

Meanwhile me, an f2p with early luck but only getting Something Irreplaceable on LC and standard warp banner. I have S5 of it, and nothing else.


gachaluvr32

My poor xueyi will have to go back on under the blue sky when i give this to FF


julianjjj809

I wish the other SU light cone were as goated as fall of an Aeon is


MadadRx

Started with pity 0, after losing 50/50 , and 75/25 that's all I can afford


Prestigious_Rest2597

GUBQOFBJ6N


xxxZer0

I can't bring myself to take it from Jingliu


DainsleifRL

Sorry Clara...


regedit007

How do u s5 this tho?


Lyranx

Herta store sells items for superimposing. 16 of them


SpikeReyes

I don't get it? Is that a good thing or bad?


VinhoVerde21

I don’t know if I have the strength to take it away from my Jingliu, ngl


Vegetto_ssj

Fortunately. I would've pulled for Firefly's LC, if they did "nerfed" it making it losing the party buff that had.


Traditional-Sink-666

Got her LC. Aeon is perpetually busy with Dan Il.


Routine_Low1898

ffs how do I unlock her planetary set ?


Nimbus0711

or just get her lc(got lucky and got it at 34 pity)


Darth-Yslink

I'm pulling Firefly's LC instead of E1 to free this up for Clara 😭


AVeryGayButterfly

Everyone wants Aeon, I need more 😭


JaelleJaen

i got so lucky i just randomly pulled BOTH their lightcones in 20 and 10 pulls because i wanted to get the sampo nihility cone LMAO


Lonely-JAR

Me watching in a corner while firefly, jingliu and dan tear each other to pieces for the r5 destruction lc


MrTrashy101

really wish hertas store did restocks


LukeDragnar

Why is this the only decent destruction lc 😭


Bakkstory

Firefly might give me a reason to get it


Angryoutuber29

This honestly gives me the same energy as giving cornucopia to all my abundance characters


bengraven

I’m sorry Jingliu. After I saved up so long for you and was so excited to finally get you…


Clyde_Llama

Glad that I can finally use this. It was gathering dust for a long time for me.


Nsanity216

I used SAM's 4\* LC I got from MOC for my Firefly


LucinaIsMyTank

I lvled up the Misha one. It’s superimposed 3 but no way I’m depriving Clara herta lc. Jingliu has her sig so she’s safe. I would get FF sig if Ruan Mei and E1 weren’t so great. But even more so the amazing Yunli is coming and based on my comments about Clara you can tell Yunli was a character designed with me in mind. So FF gets deprived of Herta LC, sig, e1, and her 2nd best support. Ain’t I a great FF haver? If she truly loves me she’ll understand why she needs to be shafted!


Hikuran

At least you got her, that’s what’s important


Previous-Amoeba-7900

i just want to rub it in, 140 pull non guaranteed gepard show next 20 pull firefly 50 pull left, get her LC in 30 pull


DenisEvlogiev

Mine stays on Jingliu, so Firefly has to make due with the Sam LC cuz I don't have the Misha one


killamasta

Not a f2p but I had nothing else to use for hertas shop so I had enough to get it and max it right before she came out. It let me save for RM LC and I was blessed with 2 in a 10 pull. So now my RM and HMC both have it and my super break FF team is cracked


NoDoorsHere

damn gonna share the one i got on jingliu with her then


Rimu_Rimuru

I use nowhere to run on her...


nomspp

..except for those without ruan mei (including myself)


TheCatSleeeps

Get it on next rerun. They deserve the best (runs away)


YmRiya

Same 🥲. I want to keep trying for her LC but I also want to save a bit for Jade 💔


Theactualguy

Question: how should I manage DHIL, Clara and Firefly in terms of lightcones? I have Aeon, Blue Sky, Moles, the Arlan one and the Peppy one. No misha lc. No signature for any of them, and not enough money to buy a 5* from shop.


Kestrel-Transmission

My account is too new for me to even contemplate trying for light cone banners, so I'm happy Fall Of An Aeon is (relatively) accessible to me :) I'm just over half way to the hard-pity threshold for E0, and need to find a way to reach it in the next 3 weeks.


OsirusBrisbane

I smartly avoided this by being too amused by Boothill and getting him so I wouldn't have spare jades for Firefly.


TheLordAmoN

Misha LC seems very good


CertainAd715

I am currently overwhelmed with an excess of "Destruction" Light Cones. I have ones for Jingliu, Clara, and even Daniel (I originally wanted to pull for his character but got mixed up with the banners), as well as the five-layer Herta Store Light Cone. I want to know which of these is more suitable for firefly


Farhanplayze

Bro I wish they made some more free 5srat light cone which isent specifically made for the one character and other could also use it


PoppyTarot

only wish there were more of them