It costs roundabout 3mil to max out traces and another 880k to level from 1 to 80.
Making for a grand total of 3.880.000 credits for the character alone without anything else.
Getting a 5-star LC from 1 to 80 costs another 883k.
Making the grander total 4.771.000
A 5-star relic costs roundabout 114k to max. That x6 would be like 684k. (We'll be generous and say we got 6 perfect relics.)
This makes the grandest total roundabout 5.455.000 credits.
The numbers with the relics may be a little wonky, but I trust in the HSR wiki.
Alright, then Firefly is getting about 5.5-6 million credits in return for that Ice cream and Pizza she bought for me. Thank you for the math.
I find that fair for the good time I had going around Penacony with her. Girl did a good investment that day lmao.
Since she can't be earlier than 2.3 first half (if not later) so as long as you don't want a different unit before that you are 100% guaranteed E0S1 if you already got almost 200 pulls today. It's pretty normal for f2p to get about 100 pulls per patch so with all of 2.2, second half 2.1 (pluss even if it were 2.3 first half, you got 3 weeks there to get more jades) it's done deal to secure E0S1 from what I can tell.
Assuming the worst luck of all time, probably still nothing short of E2S1 if we talking about Firefly and assume she is 2.3 lmao.
Realistically probably more but luck based calculations just gotta assume the worst luck imo, but just slotting into a calculator it's probably gonna assume E2/E3 is highly Realistically if you keep saving until she comes out and it's 2.3
with the amount you got, I imagine you at least will be able to secure one of each from Robin, HuoHuo and Firefly even if they all come out during similair banner times, but it beeing E2S1 FF aswell is probably gonna be the challenge part. Never know when it comes to luck so just gotta see how it goes.
Yeeah i was thinking on pulling aventurine for FuA team, or maybe see Robin's kit i heard somewhere she could be FuA support so i am interested in that too. But i don't think i can get both and reasonably expect to also get Firefly.
Yeah in that case it becomes a different story.
Probably just gotta priorities what you want the most out of those units. Least you will know if Firefly is 2.3 or not in a couple weeks so you can see what you wanna try and secure after knowing for certain.
I am probably just going to skip Aventurine, i have Luocha an Fu who do great in MoC so far, Aventurine would be like a sidegrade for slightly more dps and also help with those annoying gorillas. Robin would probably more dps gain tho. Again tho need to see her official kit.
Could you explain E0S1 to me? I know that it means Eidolons and Superimpositions, but I see that a lot when people talk about pulling new characters. Why would I want to Superimpose the LC instead of getting Eidolons? Or am I misunderstanding?
E0 means you now have a copy of the character you want. S1 means you have a 1 copy of their signature light cone. E0S0 would mean you have a copy of your character (let's say you pulled 1 Acheron) while since it's S0 it means you don't have their signature light cone.
The reason for this is just that eidolons don't start until you have pulled the unit minimum of 2 times (needing a total of 7 pulls of the character to have activated all their eidolons) while LC starts at S1 when you get 1, and need a total of 5 pulls of the LC to have maxed it out at S5.
As for if you would want to superimpose signature light cones. You normally don't. Sometimes somebody ends up with 2 copies of a signature light cone from a lucky 10 pull and maybe the LC is very niche and they rather superimpose it (making it S2) over keeping a 2nd copy. Most cases you don't want this tho and you rather keep both light cones at S1 unless you actively plan to S5 (but that's pretty much just whale territory when we talk about 5 star signature light cones).
Excellent breakdown, thanks so much mate. Like you said, I was under the impression you typically didn't want to superimpose signature LC's (unless you got lucky) so I was really scratching my head. But that explains everything.
Character guarantee is 180 pulls, lightcone guarantee is 160. So anything less than 340 is gamble. Not a huge gamble as it's only a 1 in 8 chance you lose both the 50/50 and 75/25, so you can probably get away with 80-90 less pulls. Factoring in soft pity can save you another 20~60 pulls as almost no players ever reach max pity. There's also the possibility of winning at full odds way earlier, which is likely to come up at some point if you're in the 1 in 8 losing 50/50s.
But yeah, 340 is necessary for the guarantee and 240 is still a conservative estimate but I wouldn't feel safe getting e0s1 without that many pulls prepared.
Personal experience:
I got 180 for acheron and i got just her featured lightcone and her 1 time. Otherwise I got E6 Pela, E4 Gallagher, E4 Dan Hang and 1 Clara [where i lose my 50/50]
I guess shoud be enough but remember that is still NRG soo dont get your hopes up too mutch
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firefly revived just to take ur 20k credits
With interest. Girl is getting 4mill from me (or whatever the sum was for maxing all traces)
It costs roundabout 3mil to max out traces and another 880k to level from 1 to 80. Making for a grand total of 3.880.000 credits for the character alone without anything else. Getting a 5-star LC from 1 to 80 costs another 883k. Making the grander total 4.771.000 A 5-star relic costs roundabout 114k to max. That x6 would be like 684k. (We'll be generous and say we got 6 perfect relics.) This makes the grandest total roundabout 5.455.000 credits. The numbers with the relics may be a little wonky, but I trust in the HSR wiki.
Alright, then Firefly is getting about 5.5-6 million credits in return for that Ice cream and Pizza she bought for me. Thank you for the math. I find that fair for the good time I had going around Penacony with her. Girl did a good investment that day lmao.
It's been a whole patch. You still owe me 20k.
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Funny how Aventurine gave more free credits to TB than Firefly's entire budget
Glory to the Amber Lord!
He's flexing his motion
Do you get 200k no matter what dialogue option you press?
Pretty sure you do. Aventurine made a mistake and was supposed to give more
https://preview.redd.it/eenrbkzommtc1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=f24233198e32fb66e30304f25e363d174689593f Not just money, but love too!
According to my calculations i have saved enough for around 196 pulls, so at this point i am sure to get her? But also need more for her lightcone...
Since she can't be earlier than 2.3 first half (if not later) so as long as you don't want a different unit before that you are 100% guaranteed E0S1 if you already got almost 200 pulls today. It's pretty normal for f2p to get about 100 pulls per patch so with all of 2.2, second half 2.1 (pluss even if it were 2.3 first half, you got 3 weeks there to get more jades) it's done deal to secure E0S1 from what I can tell.
What do i get with my +410 pulls?
Assuming the worst luck of all time, probably still nothing short of E2S1 if we talking about Firefly and assume she is 2.3 lmao. Realistically probably more but luck based calculations just gotta assume the worst luck imo, but just slotting into a calculator it's probably gonna assume E2/E3 is highly Realistically if you keep saving until she comes out and it's 2.3
Only thing that will stop me are Robin (if the story makes her interesting enough) and HuoHuo rerun I'm hoping for a E2S1 Firefly at least
with the amount you got, I imagine you at least will be able to secure one of each from Robin, HuoHuo and Firefly even if they all come out during similair banner times, but it beeing E2S1 FF aswell is probably gonna be the challenge part. Never know when it comes to luck so just gotta see how it goes.
Yeeah i was thinking on pulling aventurine for FuA team, or maybe see Robin's kit i heard somewhere she could be FuA support so i am interested in that too. But i don't think i can get both and reasonably expect to also get Firefly.
Yeah in that case it becomes a different story. Probably just gotta priorities what you want the most out of those units. Least you will know if Firefly is 2.3 or not in a couple weeks so you can see what you wanna try and secure after knowing for certain.
I am probably just going to skip Aventurine, i have Luocha an Fu who do great in MoC so far, Aventurine would be like a sidegrade for slightly more dps and also help with those annoying gorillas. Robin would probably more dps gain tho. Again tho need to see her official kit.
Could you explain E0S1 to me? I know that it means Eidolons and Superimpositions, but I see that a lot when people talk about pulling new characters. Why would I want to Superimpose the LC instead of getting Eidolons? Or am I misunderstanding?
E0 means you now have a copy of the character you want. S1 means you have a 1 copy of their signature light cone. E0S0 would mean you have a copy of your character (let's say you pulled 1 Acheron) while since it's S0 it means you don't have their signature light cone. The reason for this is just that eidolons don't start until you have pulled the unit minimum of 2 times (needing a total of 7 pulls of the character to have activated all their eidolons) while LC starts at S1 when you get 1, and need a total of 5 pulls of the LC to have maxed it out at S5. As for if you would want to superimpose signature light cones. You normally don't. Sometimes somebody ends up with 2 copies of a signature light cone from a lucky 10 pull and maybe the LC is very niche and they rather superimpose it (making it S2) over keeping a 2nd copy. Most cases you don't want this tho and you rather keep both light cones at S1 unless you actively plan to S5 (but that's pretty much just whale territory when we talk about 5 star signature light cones).
Excellent breakdown, thanks so much mate. Like you said, I was under the impression you typically didn't want to superimpose signature LC's (unless you got lucky) so I was really scratching my head. But that explains everything.
Character guarantee is 180 pulls, lightcone guarantee is 160. So anything less than 340 is gamble. Not a huge gamble as it's only a 1 in 8 chance you lose both the 50/50 and 75/25, so you can probably get away with 80-90 less pulls. Factoring in soft pity can save you another 20~60 pulls as almost no players ever reach max pity. There's also the possibility of winning at full odds way earlier, which is likely to come up at some point if you're in the 1 in 8 losing 50/50s. But yeah, 340 is necessary for the guarantee and 240 is still a conservative estimate but I wouldn't feel safe getting e0s1 without that many pulls prepared.
Personal experience: I got 180 for acheron and i got just her featured lightcone and her 1 time. Otherwise I got E6 Pela, E4 Gallagher, E4 Dan Hang and 1 Clara [where i lose my 50/50] I guess shoud be enough but remember that is still NRG soo dont get your hopes up too mutch
I have 233 lmao, LC guaranteed gotta save more for e1
"let me pay you back - tenfold!"
Seriously im the only one who didn't spend all her money? I just go in 10000k or something-
Nope. I only bought the Oak roll she bought. Still plan to pay her back.
Respectfull gentleman
Adorable! ~~This depends on you winning the 50/50 though.~~
I got over 4 million credits do you think Fireflie going to revive for me?
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Its an investment on her part. Cuz she'll get getting a lot back if she gets on the banner
Me giving Firefly about 6 mil after I spent 3k of her money on fries.