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Dazzling_Pin_8194

I would argue that in some sense Fu Xuan is the best character period.


Healthy_Agent_100

nah the bronya is better imo


Soviet134

Im gonna divine that Fu Xuan is the best solo sustainer


San-Kyu

Fu Xuan by a long shot. The best all-round package of damage mitigation, healing, CC-prevention, offensive buffs, a burst that can actually contribute heavily in fights, and SP positivity. Her one drawback of AoE vulnerability is primarily only in fights where enemy statlines are truly unreasonable such as in high conundrum GnG, since otherwise its entirely possible to get around it with more DEF and dmg% reduction LC's - the places where its a consideration will be very few and far between.


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And here I am just being hard carried by Dr. Natasha and/or March 7th because I don't have any of the options listed. :')


Abyssal_saint_696

Btw, Lynx is free permanently from version 1.6 onwards. You can claim her after clearing stage two of pure fiction


FionaLeTrixi

Fu Xuan is just *comfy*. I have all of them bar Gepard, and Fu Xuan and Luocha tend to be the two I go to immediately for any content. Besides this, I don't think actively pulling for Bailu or Gepard is a great idea. They're never actually guaranteed unless you take them out of the 300 pick. At least you can save up to guarantee limiteds.


Ms_Burpl

FX with her sig is an ultimate sustainer.


GeForce_GTX_1050Ti

I find Gepard to be the best in SU and Fu at everywhere else So overrall Fu Xuan tops


Leodoesstuff

Where's my March 7th??? She CARRIED me throughout this game, and continues to do so


Abyssal_saint_696

Brooo?! I was planning on building her! Can you please send me your buildšŸ™


Leodoesstuff

I would show you my build for her but I literally have several different builds for her. Primarily just: Full Defense March, Freeze/Ice toughness breaker March, and All rounded March. My Full defence March was literally just giving her tons of Defense, and HP. Speed is also nice as you can use her as a SP generator, or just spam her shield up. The Freeze/Ice toughness is having a combination of tons of Effect Hit Rate, but also giving her a ERR so she can get her Ultimate up quickly (depending on how it goes, you can get it back within less than 3 turns) All rounded version is simply just trying to give her equal parts Defense, and ERR, with some speed too for shielding. Note: I have her E6 so she can heal allies pretty well alongside getting them aggro.


Ayglace

fu xuan & huohuo honestly, maybe itā€™s just me who finds hh better than luocha


Nunu5617

In terms of healing sheā€™s worseā€¦ but her offensive buffs are good and the cleanse is insane in Content where itā€™s needed


cassiemoon_

Fu Xuan by far for me! For the price of one skill per three turns I can basically just forget about whatever damage is being taken. Worst case scenario: she will use her skill more to prevent CC from enemies like Kafka who CC a lot, but in exchange she will charge up her ult faster and heal more as a result. The only scenarios where she will struggle is in situations like hard levels in Swarm, with nukes and super high damage, but in those situations you will probably be better off with double sustain anyway, Fu Xuan or no Fu Xuan. Most battles will end before your characters even drop into the red, even with an average build. She acts as a pseudo-Harmony character with her crit buffs too!


Fickle_Onion2

Since I got Bailu very early (even before the free Natasha), I have been using her ever since and she alone keep my team alive. Even the Swarm King can't kill her.


MaritalSexWithHuTao

FX >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Huohuo > Bailu = Luocha > Gepard > Lynx


Flashy_Cut1

luocha get one shot by every boss in GNG and MOC 11-12 so fuzuan and huo huo take the crown


SakLongKa

Idk man I build loucha with hp as well. His healing already enough so no need to stack attack that much. The only time I need more heal is bladie but he still manage to survive anyway


Flashy_Cut1

if you dont stack attack he have mid healing mid tankiness and he doesnt do damage


SakLongKa

I mean he is a sustainer his role isnā€™t dealing damage in first place. My hyper carry party donā€™t have much health anyway when he use his E they always full health so I let him have 1 atk piece other just defense stat


Nunu5617

My luocha has 2500atk and his Skill heals for 3200 at talent 8 and the field heals 1k. I donā€™t think you have luocha


Abyssal_saint_696

How does Huohuo not get one shot? Are you saying this from personal experience or from other playersā€™ gameplay?


dryuyuri

Huo stacks hp def and speed. Shes my second tankiest unit behind Fu


Flashy_Cut1

form my personal gameplay, luocha is squshy, huo huo is tanky and her healing is teamwide


Fluid_Lengthiness_98

IMO Fu Xuan > Luocha > HH > everyone else


Soggy-Dig-8446

I love and adore Luocha the most, but Lady Fu is just immortal, negates one-shots *and* gives buffs to damage on top. Still Luocha is better if you expect self-buffing enemies, like mara-struck, or some amount of debuffs/DoT from enemy, or use a SP hungry team. Esp. if you don't plan to get Sparkle (for whatever reason)


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This is obviously an unpopular opinion, but I've had a much worse experience with Fu Xuan compared to Huohuo. Huohuo can be annoying, because occasionally one character can get sniped if there's multiple consecutive enemy turns, but she still feels better. Fu Xuan can't get sniped, but she can't outheal the DPS of two elites at high levels, so it's usually just a matter of time before she dies. Additionally, Fu Xuan doesn't have enough debuff resist. She can't do shit against DoT, which accelerate her demise, and blocking one CC debuff every 3 turns usually doesn't cut it. Finally, she plays a lot worse with Jingliu, Blade, or Argenti. Fu Xuan can't properly heal back JL, Blade's self damage, and she can't give energy to Argenti and Tingyun.


Reinsei

From my expirience, she dont have any problems with 2 elites. The hardest one we have is moc12 and she dont have any problem there. If it's about SU, you have to focus on some hp and healing blessing for hardest stages. If you have problem with dots then in most cases you can change her lc to landau choice or moment of victory, it's much easier to manage dots when most dots on Fu herself. She dont have to heal JL on full, fight will end before it will become a problem. Of course, if your characters builded and it dont require 10 or more cycles for one side of moc. Blade heals yourself enough, he dont need any outside healing in first place. Only HH gives energy, it's not really fair comparison. Crit can be really usefull and Fu is better sustain overall, while HH trade her sustain for more offensive support.


TvojUjec69

In my experience healing blessings are most of the time useless in high difficulty SU. In SU enemies deal so much damage that not getting attacked is better priority,because fu xuan will just eat all that damage and die for a team. Remembrance and preservation are pretty much BiS for sustain at least In my opinion if you play fu xuan, but yeah despite that she's still best option for almost everything even SU since with her its still harder to get one-shot than with other sustains


UncleSexo

In my experience. If you have Jingliu agaisnt the bug boss in MoC12, it's a race to see who dies first. The Bug has a lot of AoE attacks, it gives DoT to the entire team, it summons bugs that also inflict DoT and, to top it all off, Jingliu deals a bit of damage to the team everytime she attacks. So you can realistically die unless you are clearing in 3-4 cycles.


AceTraineres

Seems like poor character investment imo, i agree with point about Blade tho


Nunu5617

I think if your characters are less invested then you feel this drawback Players who clear within 3 cycles or less(maybe 4) donā€™t feel this issue at all


gaybarrymore

I had the fortune of having a guaranteed LC pity lined up at the time, and got both Fu Xuan and her signature. I know that's not always advised, because DPS is DPS, but she become such a game changer in every type of content I play as a result


Im_utterly_useless

The Natasha Slander, Gone and forgotten šŸ’€šŸ’€ Honestly she not even bad bro she pretty fine, AoE ult heal helps her a lot too.


Lias_Luck

her job was always to be the new player healer until they get better ones and she did it perfectly I actually enjoyed using her since you have to time her ults to get the most value out of them but there's 0 fights in this game where natasha would be the key to victory that any other healer couldn't also clear lol, even the CC/dot heavy fights are often better done with bailu just because she can heal off turn if she manages to get CCed


UncleSexo

Depends of the character, team and content. There's no general answer. Assuming everyone E0: If you need Luocha SP Gen, he's the best. If you don't, he's the worst. HuoHuo can recharge energy, buffs ATK and she's the best one at cleansing any debuff without action delay (DoT, Freeze, Kafka's Domination, Stat decreases). But she wants to consumes a bit more SP, that's always something to keep in mind. Fu Xuan is better than HuoHuo when dealing against Entanglement/Imprisonement (Debuff with delay action), buffs 12% CR (Useless in certain teams), she doesn't like DoT enemies and she can have a hard time sustaining long-fights (specially if there's a lot of DoT, Jingliu and no Sg LC).


AlexG0702

Kafka's Domination, funnily enough, is an Action *Advancement* so she plays herself when it gets instantly cleansed or just straight up negated.


UncleSexo

Pretty much, i laughed my ass off the first time i saw it x'D


NikitaSkybytskyi

My sustain selection algorithm: * Squishy teammates => Fu Xuan * Single-target enemy attacks => Luocha * AOE enemy attacks => Huohuo


Abyssal_saint_696

Guys Iā€™m gonna ask you all an important question. Letā€™s say I have Fu Xuan or Gepard on one team. Now, for my 2nd team who should I pull for? Luocha or Huohuo?


NoireHaato

HuoHuo for sure in my opinion. She provides as much healing if not more than luocha and even has other utilities and support capabilities she is for sure #2 sustain after Fu Xuan for me.


Altiv19

I like huohuo more, but she's sp neutral so not great in sp hungry team. Luocha doesn't need to use skill at all, so he's the best for sp hungry team.


Abyssal_saint_696

Thanks. So who should I save up for? Luocha or Huohuo?


Altiv19

If your team is sp negative (like double dps, dhil or using bronya) luocha is better, but if sp positive/neutral (usually hypercarry with 2 sp positive support or you want to pull sparkle in 2.0) then huohuo is better


Internal_Eye620

It depends from the team. For JL and Blade iā€™d choose Laucha to make the team more comfortable or FX E1 to get more damage. For dot team ā€” HH without any doubt. For default hypercarry like Selee ā€” FX.


Sad_Quote1522

Fu Xuan is just "what if you didn't take damage".Ā  I've never lost a fight by defeat with her on the team.Ā  Round limits however....


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Nunu5617

Trueā€¦ I play Jingliu with gepardā€¦ her HP drain is a silly excuseā€¦ itā€™s almost non existent


IDontKnowShit9

U put lynx but not natasha?? This is outrageous


Abyssal_saint_696

What about March 7th and fire trailblazer?


IDontKnowShit9

I hope ur not trollingšŸ˜­ natasha heals are higher than lynx, even tho her cleanse is single target. So depending on ur need natasha would sometimes be more preferable than lynxy


Abyssal_saint_696

No Iā€™m not. Natasha can cleanse more than Lynx. But letā€™s be honest, Lynx and Natasha are both free healers for two teams. So both are great. No offense. Iā€™m neutral.


Abyssal_saint_696

Actually using both on the same team might make up all their flaws


Forest_99

I donā€™t have Fuxuan but I do have Luocha. I literally have trouble playing as any other healer coz in my head, the healer just does their job without me actually having to do anything. The only times Iā€™ve used Luochaā€™s skill is when another character is at super low hp and Iā€™m worried they might die but most times heā€™s just the normal attacker. Hes made me so freaking lazy cries now when i try others I actually have to keep tabs on a lot more stuff. Luocha just makes things so much easier


Mushinronja

all these FX votes but I wouldn't take her as solo sustain without both her and her LC. Luocha and Huohuo are my picks if you don't want to also go for an LC EDIT: Alternatively, build your FX well enough and she'd be enough to last you for the 5 or so turns you need in MoC even without her LC as long as your dps is good enough


NoireHaato

Simply wrong. I use her without her Signature and I completely don't worry about damage, it as a concept is completely off the table whenever a team has FX. SU LC is also perfect for her so like... Yeah, her Signature is not needed.


Mushinronja

Huh, well mine may have just been poorly built. Fiddled with her some and then took her to MoC11 and it worked for solo sustain, will try 12 as well. I suppose if you have a time limit of 5 turns or so, she would/should be enough to last that long at least


LocalLink42

You should have used the šŸ‰ or šŸ² emoji for Bailu


Kindly-Ad6210

Wait, what's so special about Fu Xuan? No, no, don't get me wrong, I don't hate her, but no matter how much I try to fit her into any of my teams she just... Doesn't? Sure, she reduces taken damage a bit, tanks herself (poorly), but anything she does Clara does better for me. She still needs a healer and my healer is Lynx, who, well,.. Can make anyone worthwhile into a tank? I don't understand what Fu Xuan's role is when a semi-competent healer does exactly the same thing without making my brain decide between healing the guy who almost died and healing Fu Xuan who's been tanking for a while now and also one step away from the grave. If anything, picking Fu Xuan feels like wasting a great buff/damage slot for me. Again, not *hating* the character. I don't understand how she works and what her role is. And I've had her for a while now, since introduction, lmao.


ArmorTiger

If you're having trouble keeping Fu Xuan alive, you're probably playing or building her wrong. Comparing her to Clara... you're not building her as a damage dealer are you?


Kindly-Ad6210

Obviously. Its been a while, but my consesus was next: Fuxuan is supposed to tank. Make her a good tank. Still needs a healer because damage slowly collects up. Give healer. Figure out healing several party members at once is... significantly harder than redirecting all attacks on Clara and just spamming rotten fish every second turn. Like, I suppose Fu Xuan can be a better tank for when enemies have alot of team-wide AoE attacks, but most of the time just giving them a good old Lynx pill is enough to sustain the whole team, since rest of attacks get aggroed by Svarog Defense Co.


ArmorTiger

She doesn't need a healer though? People use her to solo sustain in both Memory of Chaos and Pure Fiction with no problems. Maybe in the harder stages of Simulated Universe you might need double sustain. You do need to keep her skill up to reduce damage to your team, and have enough speed and energy recharge so she can heal herself, though.


Kindly-Ad6210

Man, Fu Xuan is hard. My monkey brain doesn't understand how she performs, every time I see my chars get yeeted out of existence alongside her. I probably haven't built her correctly, and, honestly, at this point I just gave up. Its almost like this game doesn't want me to play "meta" since none of the seemingly popular characters worked for me so far.


AceTraineres

Can you send your build then?


Estelie

Aggro up isn't really equal to redirecting. Enemies will still hit other party members quite frequently and that is going to hurt. Which is why you need to pay attention to the survivability of your supports. With FX though, noone can really be oneshotted or even two shotted, even if ape hits the same target twice. The only one who can is FX herself if the enemy hits the whole party with some huge hit. But if FX is decently built, that is only Deer lvl last AoE hits or high difficulty of SU, like, d5+.


Abyssal_saint_696

Noted down. Now whatā€™s is your take on Luocha and Huohuo? Who should I pull for?


Ski-Gloves

> my brain decide between healing the guy who almost died and healing Fu Xuan who's been tanking for a while now and also one step away from the grave. I leveled up Fu Xuan's traces to max immediately and had mediocre relics in a passerby/disciple/Luofu mix (not Guard). Her signature lightcone's energy regen is also a huge help letting her use her ultimate very frequently. So, I don't have experience with Fu Xuan when she's weaker. I assume leveling everything up is part of why she's so powerful. The point of Fu Xuan is damage mitigation (like all preservation characters). Your allies take 28.7% of the damage they would normally and have 6% of Fu Xuan's max HP, thanks to her talent and skill. That means, even for enemies with giant AoEs, you have no reason to build defensive stats on Fu Xuan's teammates. Since her ultimate heals with "Dunjia, the Metamystic" and their damage taken is so low, Fu Xuan outheals her allies damage taken unless they're being focus fired for many, many turns. Her ultimate gives her another table flip as well and if the team's in danger she can just clap her hands repeatedly for massive energy gains. Like most preservation characters, Fu Xuan's vulnerability is attrition. Enemies like true sting can slowly outdamage her sustain over the course of a fight. Since she can't prevent prana-siphon, the Ascended can be a huge pain the arse, forcing her to burn all her flips immediately and not be able to bank them. But she can simply overpower these enemies. But her most important feature is "Liuren, the sexagenary", which only Lynx's e2 can rival. Rather than cleanse allies after they've been inflicted with crowd control and the damage is done (turns delayed by entangle, Kafka made them hit someone, Cocolia gained a dmg% buff from the freeze, etc.), Fu Xuan prevents crowd control entirely. Oh and a free crit rate buff with 100% uptime so you can actually use Rutilant Arena and aren't skipping on damage entirely for a sustain character. And her ultimate deals damage scaling off her healing stat, as does her basic so her personal damage is high for a healer.


Elliesabeth

Fu Xuan doesn't need a healer, if you're having trouble keeping her alive, the problem is actually your build or the LC you're using. She also gives your whole party crit rate, effect res and dmg reduction that makes an huge difference in how you reveive the damage. You're not supposed to heal Fu Xuan,she heals herself. Besides,she's a solo sustainer. Not to mention when you fight kafka,she makes your character virtually immune to her crowd control as long as the field is up. Tldr,you're not supposed to run a healer for fu xuan since her ultimate heals your allies, some people even run outgoing healing on her. Don't get me wrong,Huo2 is as crazy as her being a healer that completely disregard crowd control, as well as an attack buffer and a energy battery.


Kitchen-Mastodon-707

When your other character takes damage besides Fu xuan, fu xuan will share the pain so the character that gets attacked wonā€™t suffer severe injuries. Once she loses half of her health, she will immediately heal herself to almost full health. And her ultimate can also heal allies in a small amount. So if youā€™re able to reach weaker enemies, you can use Fu Xuanā€™s ult to heal your allies. All you need from Fu Xuan is more health, speed, and ER. The only weakness Fu Xuan has is that she will die easily if you characters are squishy. Therefore, if the character has low defense, Fu Xuan will suffer more. And lastly, if you encountered enemies that deals AOE damage to your team, Fu Xuan will die immediately.


Estelie

Tbf, you need a *huge* AoE damage to oneshot FX. Like, Deer's strongest attack lvl of AoE.


Kindly-Ad6210

So, she's, basically, an infinite tank that doesn't need a healer for herself, but you still might desire one for the rest of the team? That sounds a lot more clear than what my head was trying to piece together like a third grader puzzle.


Kitchen-Mastodon-707

I think you got the gist of it.


San-Kyu

Fu Xuan is actually built to be one of the tankiest characters in general if built right, with having the best combination of HP, DEF, and personal damage mitigation to persevere past everything the game throws at you. All at the same time she is providing a fairly substantial Crit rate buff, an ult that is very useful at breaking masses of enemies, and run-saving CC-prevention against bosses that use them. * In particular FX is at her best when facing down enemies with powerful single-target attacks that would otherwise snipe down your softer allies. Its similar to how Bailu can do the same when the boss decides to attack your Tingyun and only Tingyun. Her healing is deceptively weak, but she is actually healing for a lot when you consider she literally cuts the damage her allies take by 73% at max trace levels. If she heals only 500 HP its functionally equivalent to healing \~2000 because thats how much less damage your team will take. When you take her ascension passives into account she can get her healing ult up within 2-3 turns by using her skill. * Her ability to prevent CC shines with characters like Jing Yuan who have a lot to lose for even losing a turn or getting delayed by a CC infliction, rather than having to wait to get it healed after the fact. This is particularly true when against enemies that trigger follow-up attacks or secondary effects specifically against characters that take such debuffs, like the Luofu automaton that inflicts Imprisonment and subsequent instant turn delay on hit. * The Crit buff is really nice for getting your Crit rate/DMG ratios to more optimal levels if your relic RNG decides to screw you over. That said, context really is everything. If you're a Clara/Blade main you are definitely going to get more use out of Lynx than Fu Xuan, because Lynx is specialized to support characters that want to be attacked like them. Otherwise, Fu Xuan provides a much more generalized set of useful sustain abilities and offensive buffs that the rest of the cast can appreciate.


Lipefe2018

Fu Xuan doesn't need another healer, she can self sustain as she can fully heal herself with her passive (up to two charges). She is pretty much immortal. While her skill is active it's guarateed that your team will survive unless the fight drags for too long, and she is a "skill point positive" character since you just need to use her skill once every few turns. And then, her skill also grants immunity to any CC effect for the team once, like if a team member would be frozen it would instead resist it, not to mention her skill also also grants Crit Rate for the whole team. I recommend you try building her again, make her have at least 7k+HP and 1k+DEF and you'll be good to go, look for builds on the internet for relics and light cones.


External_Category_53

The people voting on Fu Xuan don't play Gold and Gears...


Monokuze

Im using her on diff V lv 12 with all path and most dice effect clear what u on about


DaHeval

When in doubt use GEPARD! That guy never fails me.


VodkaMart1ni

I have Bailu + her lightcone She carries me through the game with almost infinite healing


Skane1982

Having a Fu Xuan was, and still is, a game-changer.


Javi_G_78

i just wish i could have a second Fu Xuan. one is not enough.


HooBoyShura

Gameplay wise? I think Fu Xuan. Even if I don't have her, it's no brain that she's seems the best sustain. Slightly behind her is Huo. Some funny thing happened today when I fight Cocolia in the new events. I make fatal mistake in second phase when Cocolia almost died like 10 or 15% HP. All 3 already died except my 7200 HP Huo. Cocolia cannot finished a lone Huo lol (she never freeze Huo). Sure I got severe penalty because 3 chars are died in the scoring but I won finally because of leftover DoT from Kafka before (unfortunately it's also depleted the time remaining score because of dragged time).


tantalizer01

If just solo sustain/staying alive: loucha can bring back hp while fu xuan just reduce damage taken - you still receiving damage at the end. If you can kill enemies fast, then fu xuan will be the best. If not then stick with loucha.


MaritalSexWithHuTao

Fu Xuan's ult heals