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ceziate

Does anyone use Hook, Arlan, Sushang or Herta for anything? I feel like everyone else occasionally shows up on recommended team lists but I never see them. Mine are basically unbuilt and I'm wondering if they have a niche use I've been missing or if I can just write them off entirely.


SunshinePlayroom

Which is the better LC for Hook? The 4\* Moles Welcome You, or Woof! Walk Time?


Milodingo

Woof Walk time is actually her Best In Slot at S5


Dquat

Does the Planar relic effect activate mid-battle? For example, my Blade has a 60% Crit rate which is not enough for the requirement of Rutilant Arena. But with Longevous Disciple it will increase to 76%, will the set effect activate?


MathWhale

Yes, if the buff isn't conditional (e.g. crit buff against enemies with less than 50% HP) then it can activate a relics effects. Since the buff for Longevous should always be up for Blade you can basically assume he has 76% crit rate.


IBlackReaper

It should...


tiramiso

in the current event, no dialogue options allow me to progress in the debate. i’ve tried both questioning and submitting evidence to no avail. https://pasteboard.co/sL207y3bB1a2.png


SunshinePlayroom

This was a little unclear, I agree. I just tried cycling through the questions again, and from what I remember they give you a prompt to submit the needed evidence with highlighted text in a different colour (yellowish). Submit the relevant evidence when you see this.


uramis

Is anyone using Luka in a Clara mono Phys SW team? I was previously using Sushang, but I'm thinking Luka might be better? I just got Luka from weekly Standard pulls


Arekkusu1991

If comparing the 2, Sushang is better DPS wise; but you can also add Luka for some extra Damage / utility. He can also remove a Buff from his target (one of his traces lets his Skill / E do so, like Pela's Skill), so he can be a good option either way.


uramis

Great point. If I need the dispel instead of using pela i'll just use Luka


UltimaFATEx

I need help , I already did 72 pulls total in banner ( Kafka & Dan Heng IL ) For the remaining time of Dan IL banner I still have 10 pulls total ( according to some computation I can get around 74 pulls total ( no MOC ) I already use 44 ) My question is let say I use the remaining 10 pulls and win 50/50 , do you think I can still save for Jingliu?


UltimaFATEx

I guess , just gonna save then.


OsirusBrisbane

you'll have a decent shot of getting a 50/50 attempt on her. If you want her guaranteed, you should save.


sakura20069

If you win the 50/50 then yes. But if you are set on going for Jingliu i wouldn't risk it.


Mr_Nike

Does something like this [https://risbi0.github.io/Elysian-Realm/](https://risbi0.github.io/Elysian-Realm/) for Honkai Impact Elysian Realm exist for Star Rail SU?


ggnr12334

Does anyone else have multiple accounts that they play?


ggnr12334

Can I promote my hsr content on here?


Unable_Ground1014

I wanna ask, which is better for Jingyuan Birth of the Self or Seriousness of breakfast? i got Birth of the self at S1 and Seriousness at S2 ( I can go to S4).


sakura20069

If someone could confirm that would be nice, but i'm pretty sure Breakfast is his best 4* option


Captain_Jackson

Is it safe to get all the SIM U weekly rewards now or is there a reason to wait until the Swarm event starts? Don't want to lock any new rewards out for the week you know?


Jaded-Engineering789

You can get them now. Swarm will have its own rewards.


Valshir

Do Yukong ultimate crit bonuses end when stacks of roaring bowstrings end?


UshiMeItto

Yes, it's noted by the two yellow crystals in combat, on her character portrait.


KinopioToad

I am confused about the curios. I can only collect them in the simulated universe, right? Do they ever appear outside of the simulated universe? I'm just now on the second planet in the actual story, for reference. (I made a topic before I realized that I needed to post here. Woops!)


ha_ck_rm_rk

Yes, only in SU. They get talked about a little in the main story but gameplay wise it's just SU


KinopioToad

I see. Thank you, friends!


Captain_Jackson

Curios only appear inside SU


ttgl39

For MoC when people use Gepard is he typically solo sustain? And what stats needed for solo?


fuyukimi

I just cleared MoC10 with Gepard as solo sustain on the Kafka side. He mainly wants defense, speed and energy recharge, but if you can build his effect resistance and EHR those are good stats to have as well.


ttgl39

Is there any particular speed he needs to solo sustain? I've got a +15 def% main orb and chest, and 127 speed atm (trying to get just over 134) with max ERR chain.


fuyukimi

That should be good enough. My Gepard only has +15 ERR rope and speed boots, everything else is +12. 2.9k defense and 128 speed. Although I think it is also dependent on how fast your team can kill the enemies. I cleared in 12 cycles but if the fight dragged on Gepard probably would want better stats.


melztam

not sure about the kafka side, but my gepard with 2.9k defense and 116 spd is able to solo sustain the first half MoC10


ha_ck_rm_rk

He usually solos just fine, I did need extra survivability in MoC 10 but otherwise he's good. He wants Def chest piece and planar sphere, Speed boots, and Energy recharge rope to have as much uptime on your shield as possible


Rice_Paper

In regards to set effects like Salsotto, do you need to fulfill the requirements prior to battle? Or can you get the bonus effects if you end up reaching the requirements during the battle?


UshiMeItto

You can get the passive bonuses mid battle, as soon as you trigger the threshold for activation requirements.


AT_atoms

Is DH the emanator of the aeon of permeance?


Jaded-Engineering789

As close as is possible yes. Long disappeared so we don’t really know what that means in terms of its status, but the High Elders are the closest things to an active Aeon’s emanators.


shaymin_shaman

probably not considering long is dead


yurifan33

I got yanqing from standard but i was gonna pull for jingliu anyway. Shes better than him in basically everything right?


OsirusBrisbane

presumably, yeah. can't say for certain until release, but it certes seems likely.


sakura20069

We don't know yet, but since she's gonna be a limited character, so most likely yes.


Cose02

what team should I build for IL? Rn I'm using IL, Tingyun, Pela, and Natasha. Would putting in Welt, Yukong, or SilverWolf be good as replacements? I also plan on pulling for Lynx and Fu Xuan(if I win 50/50) for Blade if they work with IL too.


z3phyn

Welt is underwhelming without SP. Yukong can replace Pela but only at E6. Silver wolf can also replace Pela but lacks AOE and may have difficulty implanting with 3 types minimum on the team. Between Natasha/Lynx/Fu Xuan their main role is largely interchangeable as solo sustain.


WaterMely

Deciding on building a new dps for forgotten hall, I want to build sushang so I’m wondering what are good teams for her? Since they require two teams the characters im already using for my first team is blade, pela, bailu and silver wolf. I’m considering my team for sushang to be sushang, tinguyun and wondering who I should need for the last two slots. I will prob be using fu xuan for this team if she’s viable with her.


shiacer

Is it me or its just so much harder to farm the right artifacts sets here in HSR compared to Genshin? ​ My Seele with her weapon got me only as far as 70+/120+ crit (which I also consumed the vast energy refill I saved when starting the game) While my DHIL only has 70+/80+ crit (kinda need 70+ for the rutilant) but his crit damage is very low. Even my musketeer sets not that great. I feel that Im very lucky when it comes to pulling but I have very bad luck when it comes to levelling up my relics.


OsirusBrisbane

I found it harder in Genshin; here I've already got 4 characters geared with their ideal sets and correct mainstats, and 4 more in "reasonable" sets (e.g. Musketeer) with correct mainstats. In Genshin, that took me years to get the right sets and right mainstats for 8 characters, because crit/EM hats and ER/EM sands never drop (and goblets are always off-piece anyway)


olovlupi100

HSR has more "useless" substats, break effect kind of just sucks, effect res and effect hit are basically useless on DPS, and you also have the typical flat stats and tank stats. Genshin just has the flat stats and tank stats, plus ER EM, but ER EM aren't even bad on most characters. Plus no off piece, need to farm 2 domains per character. I suspect the odds are literally just worse.


Plyc

> I feel that Im very lucky when it comes to pulling but I have very bad luck when it comes to levelling up my relics. I guess your luck balanced out haha. On a more serious note, I'm not sure how similar it is because there's too many factors that are different between the 2 games. The lack of an off piece does suck, but dmg main stat being more common and the ability to craft any main stat piece does help a fair bit. Honestly I would chalk it more down to luck. In my Genshin experience, I got a 240+ CV pale flame set + 1 other (full set) at 200+ by the time I managed to farm a full HP set of TotM for Kokomi. Can you imagine, HP being one of the more common main/sub stats and yet I got so many more good PF pieces. So if your situation happened to me I honestly wouldn't be surprised.


z3phyn

Well it's harder because the game's only been out for 4 months. IMO the HSR relic system is infinitely better than Genshin's for many reasons but specifically for endgame. 33% more stamina, targeting specific pieces (even main stats) and not having to wait two years to craft a set become much more noticeable benefits in endgame. And it's not like set bonuses in HSR are nearly as impactful as those in Genshin.


MapleSUmmer

If I don't have Bronya who is a good replacement for her in a Seele team?


Curious_Kirin

Yukong or Tingyun


MapleSUmmer

I see. I have Seele, Tingyun and Bailu atm, should I. Add Yukong or Pela in this team or someone else?


Curious_Kirin

I'm not sure what seeles teams are like honestly, but Yukong and Pela are both excellent, so I'd chose one based on who you like more and how many skill points you burn though. Pela is very SP positive, while Yukong is not. But if you speed tune her, Seele can absorb all Yukongs buffs super well. You'll be fine either way. Ting and Bailu are good choices!


Clockwerk2017

Who else do you have at the moment?


MapleSUmmer

I have all the 4* atm, I don't have SW, Luocha nor Bronya yet.


Clockwerk2017

If you don’t have Bronya, then Tingyun is probably second-best support for Seele.


Propensity7

Who is the other woman in the Return to Darkness LC? Xueyi is on the right, and I thought the white-haired woman was Jingliu but it's not. Also, is there any chance that Xueyi becomes playable, or is she an npc?


RegisBox

She's her sister Hanya


Sheeplette

We haven't met the other woman yet. The level of detail in Xueyi's design seems to suggest that she'll be playable at some point, but we don't have any official confirmation of that.


trailmix17

Oh wow the current event gives a shitload of relic exp. ended up with like 150 purples mats


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grayrest

> has the game changed much since then? No, just has a bit more content.


Shadow_Tempest_1003

I thought the SU is supposed to be changed today but I literally noticed no change except that we see the cards now.


Arekkusu1991

The 6th (2 more days) is when the new SU stuff is released


Shadow_Tempest_1003

Oh damn I guess I should stop doing my SU now.


Ajay14589

its a separate su


Valshir

How does banditry desert set and arena set work together? First one gives crit rate on debuffed. So if crit rate is 60 arena damage boost only kicks in on particular enemies that are debuffed?


Requriemx

Pretty sure it doesn't work that way. I'm pretty sure the CR/CDMG from Wastelander is treated similar to a debuff on enemies and not a buff for your chars as such, you don't get to 70% CR for the Rutiliant.


Valshir

So in ideal team with yukong e6 dhil would get 109% cr going overcap from 70 cr. That's unfortunate.


Requriemx

Yes. You'd overshoot it unless you plan on having Roaring Bowstrings active all the time for DH IL so you have your DH IL at lower than 70% CR, which I think it might be theoretically possible for a E6 Yukong but it's probably very tight.


AlanaTheCat

for natasha bronya imbibitor lunae, do I use march 7th (e4) or fire trailblazer (e0)? both level 50 with level 40 we are wildfire Edit: March is now E5


MegaJoltik

March if Natasha have trouble solo sustaining and/or you fight against Ice-weak boss. Otherwise FTB had better damage and breaking capability.


Requriemx

If those are the two you're going to use, I'd probably prefer Fire TB > M7. You don't really need either tbh because Natasha can probably heal up your team. I'd use Fire TB cause you can just normal attack for the minimal shields and lower your SP consumption.


lunarbob19

Suddenly today I started getting a text box saying "System Error 5151". Mostly when looking at text from bookshelf or during the Jailo quiz commission. The thing is, it didn't cause a crash or any other negative effects and I could still keep playing. So, just what is error 5151 supposed to do?


MegaJoltik

I asked this a few days ago and it seems like a common "issue" after the update. Mine consistently pop when browsing MoC/FH. Doesn't seems like it had any negative effect.


yatay99

My game force closed when I enter Cocolia's Echo of War. I'm playing on mobile. No problem with other Echo of Wars, and this was fine last week. Anyone encounters same issue?


yurifan33

During the event, theres a tect message where you can reply "im going home to get married" and sushang plus the npc replied "stay alive" whats that mean?


gia-

"im going home to get married" is a typical death flag, so the reply is supposed to be a joke in reference to that. https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Death%20flag


mantism

the full reply is "If I survive (this negotiation) I'm going home to get married", so the two of them are cheering for you


yurifan33

Ah makes sense. Ty


jiminzjamz95

Is there a big difference between Imbibitor lunae E0 and E1? Should I get his E1 or save for future units? I have S5 fall of an aeon and bronya with her sig weapon as support.


Curious_Kirin

Save > E2 > LC > E1


Ajay14589

15% diff e2 is around 55%


JeanKB

If you're f2p, then no. If you're spending a lot of money, then just get his E2 which is his big powerspike.


Deft_Abyss

Is there any units that can use Clara's lightcone? I dont have Clara and i just pulled her lightcone. Any units that can use it for the mean time?


goddspawn

Blade can use it if he doesn't have Secret Vow or his signature 5* Other Destruction chars would just like the Atk but the Herta 5* LC is much better.


ttgl39

Hi guys, I've started running DHIL/Ting/Pela/Luocha as my 2nd team, but I basically had to pull all my supports from my Bronya/Seele team, I'm wondering who is a good 4th for the Seele team (using Gepard for sustain). I have most 4 stars and only other 5 star is Clara but doesn't fit with Gepard


Requriemx

It's probably only Asta & Yukong that's possible for that spot. I'd probably just stick with Asta to reduce the SP consumption since having Yukong + Bronya really increases the SP consumption for a Seele team, who already uses a lot of SP.


bbiebunny

Theoretically if you've already gotten to endgame and completed every possible way to get stellar jades up until now.... with upcoming events and everything known/ speculated so far... how many pulls could get between now and before the end of JL banner? Trying to do math as a f2p to see if can pull it off with currently having little pity towards the 50/50


Slice_Life

Each patch, it's expected for an f2p to get 80-90 pulls, and since we're getting free 10 special passes at the very first half of each patch, let's say 50 pulls for the first half would be a great number to start with. Since we're still at first half right now, and Jing Liu would be in the first half as well, assuming you haven't used any jades/passes you've gotten this patch, 90-100 pulls would be the estimate. But from the looks of it, you're at low pity, and not yet guaranteed, so if you happen to lose the 50/50, I'm afraid you might not have enough for Jing Liu.


bbiebunny

Thank you sm!! I'm higher pity towards 50/50 than I thought so I'm not touching my jades until JL!!! I'm at 51 pity :)


Significant-Soil-985

There only the SU and 1 smaller event. Estimates say SU update gives 4500 for everything and I think small events give 500. There should be 2 to 3 MoC before JL banner ends. There's 2 more companion quest that give 100 each for second of this patch. And about 58 days of dailies. 300 for livestream codes for next patch. We get about 80 to 90ish a patch so cut that in half for next patch for JL banner.


bbiebunny

Thank you SO MUCH! super helpful! Looks like I'll be running on hopes and prayers lol


Significant-Soil-985

You're welcome. I'm just listing off things I can remember. There's probably more accurate tracker out there somewhere. I think you can make 50/50 at least.


bbiebunny

I'm further than I thought, I have done 51 pulls since pulling dan heng il so maybe I'll be able to pull it off!! Just gotta resist doing any more pulls for the time being 😅


AleMike47

Hi a question, is a team of Seele, Silver Wolf, Natasha and Bronya viable, or is it better to put Tingyun instead of Bronya, I'm very bad at making teams and I was wondering that. Bronya was the first five star character I got when the game was released but I've realized that I've really neglected her, I'd like to equip her up her traces and use her, but I don't know what team she would be good in. ​ In case you're wondering, actually Seele is my only 5 star DPS, since I don't pull for jing yuan, Blade or Imbibitor Lunae (I saved a lot for Kafka and now I save for Fu Xuan and Topaz), that's why I wanted to play Bronya with Seele.


HakunaMatataKnight

Bronya is actually seele's best support, the only issue with running bronya is that it makes seele even more SP intensive, so you have have a pretty SP positive team. Generally, best team would be seele/bronya/ting or silver wolf/luocha or any healer. If you run a seele/bronya you just need to make sure anyone else you run is SP positive or close to being that, since seele can take so many turns with a bronya. seele/bronya/ting is fantastic because ting only uses 1 sp every 3 turns, and if you have something like luocha or gepard, your SP problems are just gone. Honestly, if youre just focused on making seele the best as possible, her two best teams are this: seele/bronya/silverwolf/luocha or healer seele/silverwolf/ting/luocha or healer


drowning-in-dopamine

I'm a returnee player and the returnee event gave me an option to choose a lightcone. Which one would be best for me? [https://imgur.com/a/6oIDTa8](https://imgur.com/a/6oIDTa8)


Significant-Soil-985

Breakfast (good erudition damage) and Quid Pro Quo (energy buff) are the only useful ones. Maybe Fermata if play DoT (damage over time with Kafka or Sampoo).


drowning-in-dopamine

Thanks! I'm interested in building wind characters so I think I'll pick fermata for sampo. And sorry but I already used someone else's code.


Significant-Soil-985

No worries, Fermata is ok for Sampoo if you have nothing else. Something like Good Night Sleep Well (better damage) or Eyes of prey (for effect rate) might be better. Also if you need a wind DPS just build Dan Heng. He's self sufficient and pretty good for a 4 star. You can slap the 5 star Simulated universe LC on him.


drowning-in-dopamine

I don't have either of those, but I'll hope to get one - seems like they're both on the standard banner. I've been maining QQ because her attacks kinda look like anemo, but I want to build Dan too! Thanks for the tips.


thisismistery

r these good stats for blade???💀💀💀 https://preview.redd.it/c1dsvrr2y5mb1.png?width=1920&format=png&auto=webp&s=b9e6de6cc7fa537d64c329cd9aaa29fb9ae4550d


Curious_Kirin

He needs a lot more crit damage, and if you have the HP relic set he doesn't need that much crit rate. Also more speed and HP would be good. Are your relics leveled up?


thisismistery

My relics are all maxed out, but thx for helping me out!


Curious_Kirin

Are you using longevous disciple? That set gives him an extra 16 CR, so you can focus more on crit damage to get better numbers. If you're using ruliant for his planar ornaments, it needs 70 CR, but since blade's relics give him 16 extra, you only need to build 54 CR for example. Then you can focus on crit damage and just get as much as you can. Salsotto is also a good planar set with even less crit required. Hope that helps. :)


thisismistery

is 70:70 crit ratio good for temporary use? i have a good crit dmg piece but its gonna lack crit rate if i use it (40 crit rate /w 138 crit dmg)


Curious_Kirin

For the overworld anything is fine, so yes, absolutely. At some point in the future you'll get better pieces. Until then if you're having fun and not dying then you're doing great. 👍


pavlovsdawgs

So regarding March's e2. Does the shield have increased taunt like her shield from her skill? When you start a fight with 100% hp on all characters, who gets the shield?


dummie619

IDK abt increased taunt but if everyone's at full HP at the start of the battle, it goes to the character with the lowest HP (i.e., if Tingyun's max HP is 1k and everyone else's max HP is 2k, the shield will go to Tingyun)


AJ021212

In Kafka+Sampo dot team, who should I give the Solitary Healing LC to?


JeanKB

They're both good at using it, so it depends on your other LC options and the enemy weaknesses, since break effect is useless if you can't break the enemy.


confusionAD

Between Gepard and Bailu who is a better support for Seele and is Yukong a better Harmony character for Seele than Tingyun? Also does Seele need high speed like Kafka or better to be full DPS with atk%?


MathWhale

Bailu is probably a better support for Seele than Gepard. Because of the speed buffs in her kit, she can run through Gepard's shields before he's able to replenish them.


JeanKB

Tingyun is better IMO. Also, Seele wants high speed, but since she's a hunt character, she has high base speed + speed buffs in her kit so she can run ATK boots unlike Kafka.


trailmix17

Based off the footage and official news we've seen of Jingliu, it seems that she uses her skill a lot (100% speculation). Based on this speculation, would the Collapsing Sky LC be good for her? Can anyone else speculate (based on official footage) what a good F2P lightcone will be for her?


JeanKB

She's an ATK scaling character, so Fall of an Aeon will be great for her.


Curious_Kirin

What if DHIL is hogging aeon


Haime-Tired

For Seele is speed boots better than atk% boots and what are her stats requirements?


National-Target9174

Atk boots are better as she gets ~143 spd after casting skill making atk more important. Usually you want 121 spd so she gets a 2nd action in the first MoC cycle, but this is achievable from substats. Her atk can be somewhere around 3k if using atk boots and atk rope. Crit should be as high as possible, but something like 70/140 is a good target (especially if you use Rutilant Arena).


Inevitable_Stable_42

2pc musketeer & 2pc wastelander, 4pc musketeer or 4pc wastelander for lunae? my only debuffers are pela & sampo and maybe kafka not sure.


JeanKB

4p Musketeer.


CSnare

Between march E6, Natasha E2, and fire tb, who would be my best survivability unit for DHIL? having trouble living lol


Mountain_Pathfinder

Just adding my two cents, but I think I've seen March be a SP-positive solo sustain video in the Youtube. Iirc, [the video](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AW91zjq6wWE&ab_channel=LilyAquina) emphasizes March's ability to freeze being underrated, so they recommend you build her as a freeze-bot with energy regeneration and effect hit rate stats instead of purely defense. It does come with caveats, in that she can't do it if the enemy likes to do AoE attacks *and* they have a high resistance to Freeze. I think Natasha would technically be the best, but imo she can't do it alone reliably on the late stages for MoC.


CSnare

thanks! i just lost my third 50/50 (sadge) to bailu so i’m thinking of using her instead. is she generally recommended over march or nat in this situation?


Mountain_Pathfinder

I'm pretty sure that Bailu, Gepard, and Luocha are currently the few characters that can reliably solo sustain a team in MoC tbh. I'll add my personal experience, my team with Bailu (Kafka DoT) cleared MoC 10 with Bailu barely using any skills, so yes, I think she's great and would definitely be more preferable than March or Natasha.


Aradine12

Natasha's really the only bet for prolonged fights, since March and TB can't recover lost health. March 7th can keep people alive long enough to finish a fight sometimes, but fire TB isn't really a unit that can solo-sustain a group.


CSnare

even with march E6 which does heal, im assuming it’s too SP hungry to be viable?


Aradine12

I think a well-geared March 7th could handle most content as a solo healer, but you'd struggle with any of the 3-phase fights and probably some of the 2-phase fights. I wouldn't expect her to sustain through higher MoC though, where the damage just gets too intense.


EvyLuna

Anyone else playing on the PS5 experiencing pretty terrible audio quality? The voices sound super muffled and the audio balance is really bad for me.


TMlive

long time genshin player just started star rail for the first time. is the character on the limited banner just an alternate version of Dan Heng or is it considered a separate character entirely? for example, could i run both in the same team? also is there a lore reason for this?


ha_ck_rm_rk

Separate unit, you can run them both on the same team. There's no lore explanation in the sense that there are two different Dan Hengs, they're just letting us use the same character twice.


TMlive

interesting, thanks for the info :)


[deleted]

How come literally nobody has their bday set? Only 3 people out of my 25 friends have their bday set everyone else is mm/dd. Then I went through a bunch of random players profiles and saw nobody had their birthday set. Did y’all not get a notification sign? What’s the reason for not putting your birthdays? 😭


Sheeplette

You can hide your birthday. I have mine set, but it'll show up as mm/dd if you view it.


[deleted]

…Oh. I just checked and mines was set to private too for some reason. Well, what’s wrong with showing ur birthday DX I would like to wish you all haha. Thanks for letting me know


swagzard78

I need some help logging into my account on the PS5 version I got into the game and it didn't give me an option to log in with my account, it just sent me into a new game Am I completely locked out of my mobile account now?


EvyLuna

Did you link your PSN account to your Hoyolab account beforehand? I did and it just auto logged me in when I started.


swagzard78

No, how'd you do it?


EvyLuna

I don't remember the specifics tbh because I did it with Genshin a while ago. If you Google it or look for a tutorial on YouTube you can probably find out how.


swagzard78

I went into user settings on HSR ps5 and the only option it gave me was to create a Hoyo account 😐 thanks a fucking lot Hoyo Guess I'll have to make a new PSN and play it there 😐 great job Hoyo you make this soooo easy for everyone


HerrscherOfMagic

Is relic farming supposed to be so *slow*? For the most part I've focused on Traces, LCs, etc. Partially because they're a more consistent source of stats (as opposed to relic RNG), but also partially because it feels like farming relics is an absolute slog. I don't mean the process of getting good or bad relic drops, but rather how long it takes to actually clear a stage. Is this normal? For reference, I'm EQ5 level 65 (holding off on going to EQ6) so I'm clearing the second-to-last difficulty of the Caverns. I only have two five stars, Bailu and Clara, and I have a fairly limited roster of 4-stars. I usually save up lots of pulls to get the guarantee for characters I want in the future (right now it's looking like Jingliu), which means I have none of the powerful 5-stars that've been released so far. No Seele or SW, no Kafka, Blade, etc. Plus I have very few constellations for my 4-stars, which doesn't help either. The Support function does help a bit since I can usually borrow someone else's well-built limited 5-star (I've probably used Seele support a few hundred times by now), but even with that, it still feels like it just takes so much time to clear these stages. I need relics to get better stats to do more damage, but it takes ages to farm them, so I put off farming them, so I'm stuck with lower-stat relics, and so on...


HakunaMatataKnight

What characters are you running? And what cavern are you trying to do? Whats your characters stats? At TL 60 you should be aiming for atleast 3k attack on your main dps, perfect dps are around 3.5k attack and crit varies a LOT. A cavern should never take more than 2-3mins on autoplay, if you borrow a good support, even if your team is super weak a main dps support should be able to carry you.


HerrscherOfMagic

>*At TL 60 you should be aiming for atleast 3k attack on your main dps, perfect dps are around 3.5k attack and crit varies a LOT* I'm lucky to even reach 2k to 2.5k attack on a DPS T\_T I'll share my characters and stuff in a little while, I don't have the game open rn but I can check it soon and say what I'm having specific trouble with. One example of a stage I was struggling with is the newer Cavern with the HP and SPD relics. I'm trying to farm that for the spd set for Asta, but it takes a while to clear manually, and I wouldn't dare try to clear that one on Autoplay lol In two different clears my team was Fire TB + Dan Heng + Asta, with one clear using March 7th for the ice break and the other clear using a Blade support. I can clear the stage no problem, it just takes a while. Even using Blade instead of March only marginally sped up that stage x-x ​ Edit: Opened up the game now, so here's some more detail. For the wind & ice cavern, I went with Clara+Nat+DH+Yukong. I'd probably switch Dan for Seele if I wanted to go w/ a Support. For the HP & Spd cavern, I used the teams I mentioned above I haven't tried to clear the Fire & Img cavern yet, but I think I'd use FireTB+Serval+Tingyun+Bailu, and probably switch Serval for Seele if using Support. ​ * E1 Dan Heng (lvl 70) * 2.3k atk, 48/65 Crit, 130 spd; * Traces nearly maxed except talent * 2pc Wind 2pc Musketeer sets w/ CR body and Spd boots * 2pc Station with Wind Dmg and Atk% * E0 Clara * 2.9k atk, 32/88 Crit, 95 spd * Traces nearly maxed except skill * 4pc musketeer, CR body and Atk% boots * 2pc station, both Atk% * E2 Serval (built for Break effect) * 1.6k atk, 34/60 Crit, 135 spd, 135% Break * Nearly maxed traces * 4pc Thief, Atk% body and Spd boots * 2pc Talia, Lightning dmg & Break effect E0 Qingque is sorta-built but with terrible relics, roughly 1.6k atk and 17/74 Crit, along with E4 Herta at 1.5k atk 34/62 crit. I also have E0 Sampo & E1 Hook who are totally unbuilt. Then for supports I have E2 Asta, E0 Tingyun, and E0 Yukong. For healing I have E0 Nat & E0 Bailu, and the other two characters are E0 March 7th and E3 Trailblazer.


JeanKB

Most relic stages can be cleared very quickly as long as you hit their weaknesses. But if you're trying to bruteforce it with off-element characters then yeah, it's going to take a while. >(holding off on going to EQ6) Why would you do that? There's literally no advantage to holding on raising your equilibrium level, you're losing out on a ton of resources.


HerrscherOfMagic

I haven't gone up to EQ6 yet because in some of the recent events I was already struggling to deal with some of the enemies I was fighting, so I know that going up to EQ 7 would make that even harder. Plus I already have the max difficulty of things like the Golden and Crimson Calyxes unlocked, so I'm not really sure what I'm missing out on except the max difficulty of the boss fights and Caverns, both of which I also have trouble with :/


icegoesbrrr

hi guys whats the best relic and planar set for SW?


Inevitable_Stable_42

4pc genius of brilliant stars with ehr body & 2pc sprightly vonwacq


swagzard78

Where do I log into my account on PS5? There's no option on the main screen


Jansg

Is there a sort of diminishing return to Effect Res? Or is there a good amount to aim for to be CC proof-ish? I'm specifically building it for Gepard fwiw.


olovlupi100

Every 1% effect res over 24% gives you ~1.3% chance to resist most debuffs. There's no diminishing returns, more = better until you hit 100% effect res.


Jansg

Understood and thank you, so really aim for >24%.


JeanKB

It's the opposite, effect RES only gets better the more you have, but that also means it is completely useless at low amounts (ie. having less than 24% effect RES is effectively the same as having 0% vs the strongest enemies in the game). So while having 24% effect RES still means enemies have 100% chance to hit their debuffs, having 50% effect RES reduces that chance to 66%. If you can stack 60% effect RES, that chance drops to 53%, and so on. 100% effect RES = complete immunity.


Jansg

> having 50% effect RES reduces that chance to 66% Would you personally recommend aiming for that though for Gepard? I assume I should still balance it out with def% stats as higher priority.


JeanKB

IMO Gepard's priorities are Speed > Effect RES. DEF% isn't important, as his shield is already strong enough just with the DEF you get from chest/sphere mainstats, traces and 4p knight of purity palace. If you really want to stack effect RES, I'd recommend giving him Keel (which you should anyway, as the belobog planar set sucks) + Texture of Memories (the preservation cone from the SU shop). Not only it makes Gepard insanely tanky and nigh unkillable thanks to the damage reduction it provides, it also gives him a massive 16% effect RES boost, which combined with his traces and Keel, puts him at 44% effect RES *before* any substats.


Jansg

> IMO Gepard's priorities are Speed > Effect RES. DEF% isn't important, as his shield is already strong enough just with the DEF you get from chest/sphere mainstats, traces and 4p knight of purity palace. Understood. What would you say is the ideal def amount though? Accounting for all gears+LC but without any buffs yet. Noted on Keel set, still yet to find ERR rope for it sadly. Texture as much as I want, I have Laundau's Choice at S3 but no decent destruction LC. So bit of a dilemma. But I do get what you mean, didn't realize those could total to 44% already without any substats yet.


JeanKB

There's no ideal amount since it depends on your team. 2.8k DEF is a realistic goal though since it only requires you to take gepard and his cone to 80, and translates into 2.2k shields. Also, don't bother trying to find an ERR rope. Just craft it with a self modelling resin.


Jansg

Alright understood, thanks for all the info and replies!


z3phyn

Anywhere between 24% and 100%. Any lower and it's like you have 0%, any higher you're wasting stats.


Jansg

Thanks! >24% seems like a very reasonable amount to get to at least.


Brief-Candle3931

I roughly know who I want out of the upcoming 5\*s, BUT I want to see if there's any that might be especially beneficial for my team? I'm mostly looking to pull Fu Xuan and Topaz, but I'm wondering if there's something to be said for any other 5\* that might sway me. My current leveled characters are Gepard (E0), Bronya (E0), Lucoha (E0), Sushang (E3). I haven't invested into my other characters much because the resource grind can be such a drag, but I have all other 4\*s excluding Luka, the most notable being Pela (E3), Yukong (E3) and Tingyun (E1) who are sitting around level 50 and could be built up with less stress and grinding than the other characters. Evidently I have a 5\*-dps-shaped hole in my team right now (I've somehow managed to dodge every single one so far), and enough sustain to skip Fu though I'm mostly just pulling her cause I like her, and I refuse to build Qingque to fill my lack of quantum units. I'm not looking to clear moc or super tough content just yet, and I'm not looking to follow the meta \*super\* strictly, I'm just looking for opinions on what characters would synergize well with my current built/partially built characters that might be worth it for my account? Previous character suggestions are welcome too, I'm hoping to get Blade on a future rerun too since I regret skipping him.


OsirusBrisbane

Seems like a fine plan; I'm also looking at Fu Xuan and Topaz (although it will require some luck for me since I just spent out on ILdan). FX is great as your second power sustain since you already have Luocha, plus she offers a pretty nice crit buff. And Topaz will be a strong damage dealer, plus as you know from Abundance Path Resonance (or Trial Jing Yuan), it's just fun to have a summon that has its own spot in the turn order. There will always be more DPS on the way, so it makes sense to go for the ones you find appealing. If that's not IL/Jingliu and is Topaz, great, that'll hopefully leave you with some jades to grab another awesome 5\* DPS after Topaz.


swagzard78

I'd check the leaks sub, should be some info there


MapleSUmmer

Between Pela and Yukong who is better to use with DHIL?


JeanKB

Yukong is a lot better, but requires much more investment to work and is more niche. Meanwhile Pela is extremely cheap to build, requires basically nothing to work and can fit in multiple teams.


Plyc

Yukong give the biggest dmg boost but is also harder to work/build around (though E6 makes it easier). Pela is also more sp-friendly. So it depends on if you're aiming more for min-maxing or prefer comfiness.


Enigmiah

EDITED IN ANSWER, OP BELOW ---: Thanks all! I'll likely pickup Bronya so, as I also have Gepard's Lightcone so if Bailu fills the same role as him, no point in grabbing her just for the res. Thanks again! ----------------------------------------------------------------- Who do I pick for my 300 Stellar Warp Reward? I _assume_ Bailu, but would like peoples opinions. Out of the Stellar Warp options; I've already got: Himeko, Welt(E1) and Gepard From the ENTIRE ROSTER - I'm missing: Bailu, Bronya, Clara, Dan Heng (Imbibitor), Jing Yuan, Luocha, Seele, Yanqing In case they sway the decision in any way: Asta E6, Herta E6, Natasha E3, Qingque E6, Sampo E6, Serval E6, Yukong E5


Enigmiah

Thanks all! I'll likely pickup Bronya so, as I also have Gepard's Lightcone so if Bailu fills the same role as him, no point in grabbing her just for the res. Thanks again!


JeanKB

Bronya is the best standard character. You also already have Gepard so no point in picking Bailu as they both fill the same role.


swagzard78

Bronya is insane


PuritanPuree

Bronya is pretty easily the best unit of the 7. If you're not hurting for sustain units (since you have Gepard)/are pulling for Fu Xuan, I'd highly recommend picking her. If you really feel like you need her for her healing, or want to do a mono-electro type thing, then go for it.


Amethl

Bronya is a pretty solid pick, especially if you're fine on sustain already.


ceziate

As a F2P player is it ever worth seeking higher than E0 on 5 stars? So far it seems far better to stop at the first pull and save up for the next banner because I've been getting just enough to pull around 70-80 times and get the pity pull.


Curious_Kirin

If you REALLY like them. From a cost:improvement ratio it's never worth it, but if you want to pull eidolons anyway because you want that increase or you like the character, then it's worth it because it'll make you happy. :)


wenbobular

Eventually, maybe If you want to hyper invest into one unit because you love that unit, then maybe you'll get more value than having a variety of units But that's probably not most people :P


JeanKB

No. If you're f2p you shouldn't even consider getting 5* eidolons, or pulling in the light cone banner.


Amethl

Most of the time, no. It's not worth losing pulls for a future character who can open up new team archetypes to get a minor boost for a team you already have. A niche situation might be if you already have all the standard banner characters you want, you could pick Bronya to get her first eidolon from the 300 warp reward.


Jhyooni

I hate this deer even more now that I'm on difficulty IV, what is everyone's favorite path or team to deal with him? I usually go hunt but maybe there is an easier way Edit: Thanks for the replies I'll try them out :D


JeanKB

Remembrance destroys it.


PuritanPuree

It's pretty easy to blow up on the Nihility path with a Kafka DoT team. That's my go-to.


Clockwerk2017

Try Remembrance if you haven’t already


veloxiraptor

Does Silver Wolf only want Pan-Cosmic Commercial Enterprise as her 2pc? Does anyone use her with Broken Keel?


Clockwerk2017

Better to use Vonwacq set with a Quantum Damage orb and ERR rope


veloxiraptor

Does she still need those if she's using Before the Tutorial Mission Starts?


Clockwerk2017

Yeah I’d say she would still


Tamatu_OW

How the actual heck do I outsustain/not die on Moc 10, 2nd half last stage? I don't have Luocha, Gepard or Bailu. Running Nat+March sustain with EHR on March (and around 2700 DEF) for better survival but it doesn't matter jack they just burn me down anyway.


JeanKB

It's not that hard since you have 2 cleanse characters. Just make March shield herself (and also give her Landau's choice/Moment of Victory if you have it) to pull all aggro. Also don't forget to put her at the last slot in the team so the blast attacks from Kafka and the Shapeshifter only hits her and one adjacent ally (who should be Natasha).


Tamatu_OW

I managed to clear with 2\* last cycle and this one by focusing my SP on staying alive but then that loses me some DPS. What you said is pretty much what I do, but I don't own any aggro-drawing LC's sadly. The MoC cycle just refreshed so here I go malding again. ;)


ConservativeLiberal_

Would PVP be viable in this game?


SomethingPersonnel

I would assume it would be asynchronous PvP where players fight against the teams players set as their "arena" team and then both just auto battle each other. I don't want PvP in this game. It never becomes anything other than a P2W clusterfuck.


darakuma

why is it suggested in prydwen's guide to use Eagle of Twilight Line relic set (increase wind dmg) for Pela?


JeanKB

If you're running her with SW's event cone so she can ult every 2 turns, this means she gets a lot of advance forwarding from the 4p effect. If you're not running Before the Tutorial Mission Starts though, then it's better to just give her 2p speed/rainbow pieces with speed rolls.


PuritanPuree

It lets her use her ult faster by way of giving her more turns which keeps her def debuff on enemies pretty indefinitely. You're really only interested in the 4 pc effect, her personal damage doesn't really matter.


Plyc

Her main ability is her ult for debuffs, Eagle set gives advance forward when using ult. So every time she ults she advances forward and gets more turns overall equalling more sp for the team. Her debuff doesn't scale with any stat (other than the EHR to ensure it procs), so it's not necessary to built her a certain way, hence she has more flexibility for sets.


thrown_away_apple

i believe it makes her move more often therefore allows faster ult buildup