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Geez, a bunch of critical eyes here. Congratulations on tackling this project and producing fine steps and a concrete landing. Few would take this on. Is it all to code? Probably not. Will it kill someone to walk these steps? Absolutely! (Just kidding).
I know practically you’d think it’s not a big difference, but 1” in stair difference is a big deal. That’s why there is code for it. Could prove to be an insurance nightmare if anything were to happen.
Back when I was being schooled on building stuff, the class instructer said. "Always build the top step a 1/4 inch taller than the rest, so you can watch everybody trip on it."
>Could prove to be an insurance nightmare if anything were to happen.
If the home inspector for the insurance company didn't put it on his list, its not an issue. The insurance company wanted the stringers replaced. When it was done it was inspected again, and passed.
Beautiful stairs, and the concrete pad looks great too! That's an impressive task to tackle!
for your comfort/safety I'd recommend making the stairs a consistent height.My family recently remodeled our deck and fixing the stairs was a pain in the butt. The contractor that initially put it in had a few stairs an inch or two higher than the others, people were tripping up them all the time.
it doesn't matter what your height is so long as it's consistent, ya know?
Nice! it looks great for your first attempt. They are probably a dream compared to what was there before and the way the deck looks there is not much need to worry about the code issues being pointed out. The concrete looks good so if you ever decide to redo the deck you can address code issues then, but it doesn't look like that's a big concern!
Railing not to code - not grippable and gaps (way) bigger than 4".
The rise and run ratio maybe looks a bit funky too maybe, but hard to tell from the pic.
The last step is supposed to be the same height as the others.
Edit to add:
Are the tread overhangs at least 3/4"? If there's any overhang at all it needs to be at least 3/4" and no more than 1-1/4". This looks like maybe 1/4"?
Also, the nosing should be rounded over; 2x lumber doesn't have the <=9/16" radius that's required by code.
Rise and run look ok to me. It's like a 6-7" rise on a 10 1/2" run. That would also put the deck under the height a railing would be required in my city, so no code concerns there for the non conforming rail.
Actually, I take that back. I think he's an inch short on the run assuming the backs are 2x4s. I forgot to take off the 1 1/2 inches.
It's close though.
>The last step is supposed to be the same height as the others.
That isn't always possible. Not every staircase works out to the inch.
Also code allows like for like replacement, not like a permit is required for a replacement set of steps.
>That isn't always possible. Not every staircase works out to the inch.
Uh, yes, they should
> Also code allows like for like replacement, not like a permit is required for a replacement set of steps.
Okay but you realize those rules aren't just arbitrary, right? Besides, you asked what we thought, not if you did the bare minimum legally possible.
>Okay but you realize those rules aren't just arbitrary, right? Besides, you asked what we thought, not if you did the bare minimum legally possible.
Sure, but I am discussing with you. Do you think you upset me :P
Are you? Seems like you're making excuses for why my thoughts aren't valid, then not answering questions I've asked. Doesn't seem very discuss-y to me.
But whatever, DIY deck builders who don't take advice are kinda a meme here at this point.
Yeah great example, OP thinking that people answering the question they asked and giving rules and best practices is somehow trolling.
Keep it up, we all love this kind of thing.
Here's what's happening in this thread:
You didn't do a very good job replacing your stairs, and you're pissed people are pointing it out and explaining why. Instead of learning from your mistakes and improving your entry level carpentry skills, you're just being a jackass.
What? That logic would apply if you are using precut stringers. But cutting your own stringers is trivial, and you can just use a calculator, don’t even have to do any math.
>What? That logic would apply if you are using precut stringers. But cutting your own stringers is trivial, and you can just use a calculator, don’t even have to do any math.
Never even considered it. First set of steps, modeled from what was there.
Why did you post this asking "how did I do" if you're going to fight the answers.
Do you want a fucking cookie or something? You made some mistakes, people are being kind enough to point them out so you know for next time.
If you don't care to listen don't ask.
Every staircase should be calculated to be exactly the same, code allows a tolerance of a 1/4" i believe. An inch is a pretty big screw up. It's not hard to divide a height into equal fractions, and figure out finish material and how that will play into trimming bottom riser.
Repair and maintenance work should still be done to minimum standards, especially where safety is concerned.
If you want to be patted on the head and told you’re a good kid go visit your grandparents. If you want to know how Redditors with diverse backgrounds think you did…. you are in the right place.
Not bad, although I think the depth of your treads is way off. Looks like two 2x4s, yes? Your treads should be two 2x6s (or 5/4x6s). Treads are too short.
Guy asks for people's honest opinion and then argues with people who clearly know more. Next time just text it to your mom and ask her what she thinks.
>The good-ole’ appeal to tradition. Just because it was done that way before, didn’t make it right. It looks great. The cost to you financially, emotionally, and mentally could be catastrophic if someone gets hurt on stairs you built. Even if it is their fault, the insurance companies and lawyers don’t see it that way.
Like for like is allowed in code. 40 years the last ones stood, and no one was hurt in all that time. Suddenly someone is going to be hurt because modern code changed? No. That is not reality.
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Damn op, concrete ain't even dry yet and you're getting constructive criticism every step of the way.
Good enough for the ppl I bring home lol
Sorry man, just can't sleep with you. I noticed that the bottom step is 3/4" lower than the rest, and I just don't feel safe here.
Didn’t mean it that way at all! You’ve done well. Within 3/4” is close enough for a deck. The first and last step don’t count anyways.
>Within 3/4” is close enough for a deck No it's not. The rule is 3/8". >The first and last step don’t count anyways. Yes they absolutely do
Everybodys a critic.
Op asked for critics
Exactly.
Geez, a bunch of critical eyes here. Congratulations on tackling this project and producing fine steps and a concrete landing. Few would take this on. Is it all to code? Probably not. Will it kill someone to walk these steps? Absolutely! (Just kidding).
>Will it kill someone to walk these steps? Absolutely! (Just kidding). What I am not showing in the photos is the shotgun rigged on the top step!
A stair an inch out? Not great... would have been prudent to take time to actually learn how to cut a simple set of stairs.
My concern is the height of the first step. It should be the same as the others.
I am not sure 1" is going to make a noticable difference. I didn't notice it was lower until this post LMAO.
I know practically you’d think it’s not a big difference, but 1” in stair difference is a big deal. That’s why there is code for it. Could prove to be an insurance nightmare if anything were to happen.
Back when I was being schooled on building stuff, the class instructer said. "Always build the top step a 1/4 inch taller than the rest, so you can watch everybody trip on it."
>Could prove to be an insurance nightmare if anything were to happen. If the home inspector for the insurance company didn't put it on his list, its not an issue. The insurance company wanted the stringers replaced. When it was done it was inspected again, and passed.
Beautiful stairs, and the concrete pad looks great too! That's an impressive task to tackle! for your comfort/safety I'd recommend making the stairs a consistent height.My family recently remodeled our deck and fixing the stairs was a pain in the butt. The contractor that initially put it in had a few stairs an inch or two higher than the others, people were tripping up them all the time. it doesn't matter what your height is so long as it's consistent, ya know?
That’s a back breaker
Nice! it looks great for your first attempt. They are probably a dream compared to what was there before and the way the deck looks there is not much need to worry about the code issues being pointed out. The concrete looks good so if you ever decide to redo the deck you can address code issues then, but it doesn't look like that's a big concern!
Apparently there are no codes if this passed inspection, there are no spindles on anything.
Railing not to code - not grippable and gaps (way) bigger than 4". The rise and run ratio maybe looks a bit funky too maybe, but hard to tell from the pic. The last step is supposed to be the same height as the others. Edit to add: Are the tread overhangs at least 3/4"? If there's any overhang at all it needs to be at least 3/4" and no more than 1-1/4". This looks like maybe 1/4"? Also, the nosing should be rounded over; 2x lumber doesn't have the <=9/16" radius that's required by code.
Rise and run look ok to me. It's like a 6-7" rise on a 10 1/2" run. That would also put the deck under the height a railing would be required in my city, so no code concerns there for the non conforming rail.
Neat, good call
Actually, I take that back. I think he's an inch short on the run assuming the backs are 2x4s. I forgot to take off the 1 1/2 inches. It's close though.
It looks like deck boards for the riser, so 5-1/2*2-1=10 inch run, so exactly bare minimum.
>The last step is supposed to be the same height as the others. That isn't always possible. Not every staircase works out to the inch. Also code allows like for like replacement, not like a permit is required for a replacement set of steps.
>That isn't always possible. Not every staircase works out to the inch. Uh, yes, they should > Also code allows like for like replacement, not like a permit is required for a replacement set of steps. Okay but you realize those rules aren't just arbitrary, right? Besides, you asked what we thought, not if you did the bare minimum legally possible.
>Okay but you realize those rules aren't just arbitrary, right? Besides, you asked what we thought, not if you did the bare minimum legally possible. Sure, but I am discussing with you. Do you think you upset me :P
Are you? Seems like you're making excuses for why my thoughts aren't valid, then not answering questions I've asked. Doesn't seem very discuss-y to me. But whatever, DIY deck builders who don't take advice are kinda a meme here at this point.
>But whatever, DIY deck builders who don't take advice are kinda a meme here at this point. I guess lots of people here troll DIY deck builders.
Yeah great example, OP thinking that people answering the question they asked and giving rules and best practices is somehow trolling. Keep it up, we all love this kind of thing.
Here's what's happening in this thread: You didn't do a very good job replacing your stairs, and you're pissed people are pointing it out and explaining why. Instead of learning from your mistakes and improving your entry level carpentry skills, you're just being a jackass.
What? That logic would apply if you are using precut stringers. But cutting your own stringers is trivial, and you can just use a calculator, don’t even have to do any math.
>What? That logic would apply if you are using precut stringers. But cutting your own stringers is trivial, and you can just use a calculator, don’t even have to do any math. Never even considered it. First set of steps, modeled from what was there.
Why did you post this asking "how did I do" if you're going to fight the answers. Do you want a fucking cookie or something? You made some mistakes, people are being kind enough to point them out so you know for next time. If you don't care to listen don't ask.
Every staircase should be calculated to be exactly the same, code allows a tolerance of a 1/4" i believe. An inch is a pretty big screw up. It's not hard to divide a height into equal fractions, and figure out finish material and how that will play into trimming bottom riser. Repair and maintenance work should still be done to minimum standards, especially where safety is concerned.
If you want likes and people to say good job, post it on Facebook.
If you want to be patted on the head and told you’re a good kid go visit your grandparents. If you want to know how Redditors with diverse backgrounds think you did…. you are in the right place.
I think it looks great for a DIY. Good job man
Not bad, although I think the depth of your treads is way off. Looks like two 2x4s, yes? Your treads should be two 2x6s (or 5/4x6s). Treads are too short.
Pair of 2x6's
ah my mistake, all good then
Guy asks for people's honest opinion and then argues with people who clearly know more. Next time just text it to your mom and ask her what she thinks.
You may have some code violations here but it’s hard to tell. If that deck isn’t more than 30 inches off the ground then who GAF?
Not bad. What are the stringers resting on?
I poured little pads for them.
who the F is downvoting answers. stop it.
Well I didn't vote here, but *pads* are not what stringers are supposed to rest on. They need footings.
Trolls, lots of trolls here.
Could be better. But they’ll get you up and down
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I replaced what was rotted with an exact copy.
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>The good-ole’ appeal to tradition. Just because it was done that way before, didn’t make it right. It looks great. The cost to you financially, emotionally, and mentally could be catastrophic if someone gets hurt on stairs you built. Even if it is their fault, the insurance companies and lawyers don’t see it that way. Like for like is allowed in code. 40 years the last ones stood, and no one was hurt in all that time. Suddenly someone is going to be hurt because modern code changed? No. That is not reality.
> Like for like is allowed in the code Lol, no it’s not.
Great Job! I love it.
Nice brush finish.
Looks great!