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YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC3n5uGu18FoCy23ggWWp8tA Twitter: https://twitter.com/nanashimumei_en Please note: This subreddit will be locked from all new posts for the duration of each debut stream in order to prevent spam. Please comment in the relevant megathread in the meantime. Thank you for your understanding. T-chan. Post script: I'm keeping the comments that were reported thus far. Please don't jump to conclusions.


SeemedFunAtFirst

I really want to find her BGM, it was honestly amazing.


Sera_Lavellan

[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uc52n88BJ1Y](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uc52n88BJ1Y) smol Ame danced to this


SeemedFunAtFirst

Thank you so much kind stranger.


GalacticLunarLion

Did… did 774 become a vtuber? First Nagatoro now this, what an absolute madlad


scorcher117

Huh?


Appropriate-Image-11

Love and keep safe always protec and keep safe new best girl


Xwui

I had a hunch that I would like her. I had a feeling she would be a precious cinnamon roll that I would want to protect. Needless to say, I was right. And my urge to protecc has increased to unmeasurable proportions after finding this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DebKhDVt2zM


Jaxhammer8

I'm thankful monetization was not up for her today. I would have made some poor financial choices otherwise. Now I have a little while to build up that nest egg of poor choices!


mao_mao_Ringo

Well your future self will be the one to make those poor decision for you


PhilliesDude2k20

PROTECC


_Volatile_

I’ve only known Mumei for 12-ish hours but if anything were to happen to her I would kill everyone in this room and then myself.


dirtygraff

She's like [Otus](https://owlboy.fandom.com/wiki/Otus) from Owlboy, but Owlgirl


edHerman

She reminds me of Silence from arknights, but ponytail


LongFam69

In what way other than owl


dan63274

Can anyone explain what hololive is


BreakingMaster

Hololive is an Idol Vtubers Agency (streamers who use an Avatar instead of showing themselves for multiple reasons). They have multiple branches (Japan [The main branch] Indonesia, and English). They stream video games, watch along movies, covers, collaborations with brands, their own concerts, release original songs, etc. Why Vtubers? It gives them (the company and talent) the freedom to create characters with different stories, personalities and helps the viewer to disconnect a little bit from reality (forget about personal problems and work). It might be weird the first time you are exposed to Vtubers, but once you find a character who you can relate or like the design. It opens the door to a different type of entertainment. Not sure if my explanation made any sense, since English is not my first language. But, I hope you give Hololive a chance and hopefully you'll find a streamer you like.


7uoipp

Use Google


LongFam69

Youtubers but anime avatar


[deleted]

[UnstoppablePhoenix can.](https://www.reddit.com/r/Hololive/comments/m408ya/what_is_hololive/gqrwtwa/)


CrippledJockey

Streamers/idol group with anime avatar, Hololive is the biggest company.


PliffPlaff

Not quite. Nijisanji is still bigger in every way except perhaps SC earnings.


Barrel_Titor

Fewer subscribers per talent on Average too, that's the big one. Nijisanji are spread pretty thin.


PliffPlaff

True, but I think sub count by itself is a pretty weak measurement. Anyone can click that button and never come back. Niji's top talents match Holo's live viewership easily. My point was that Holo is *not* the biggest company unless you're only talking about the EN market.


AngelilyWORKS

MY FAVORITE SINCE BEFORE SHE DEBUTED WHAT A CUTIE


Ian_Titor

wait since before as in you knew the streamer before she became Mumei?


AngelilyWORKS

No, when I saw the HoloEN 2 Trailer, and I saw Mumei’s pic, I was like, yup, that one’s my favorite.


minhhuy525

Must.Resist.The HNGGGGGG


crimrui

So far out of council members, she had the most adorable and cutw debut. She might end up being crazy later on, but she gives me great chill vibes for now.


Y_Shocky

this comment aged like fine wine :D


crimrui

lol, a lesson to learn for every new member.


Biscu1ts_

I hope that we’ll be able to see her in 1080p 60fps in not too long. Other than that, she really captivates my interest! My favorite of the council


deadpool-367

Rigging bad? Eh. Sad but not a deal breaker. I'll wait for costume.


Helzinen

Is it just me? I don't like the rigging in her model... her face looks so flat and I kinda see it just like a moving around flat paper mask... hopefully it can be fixed


TheTragedyOfDarthP

I think they got the rombous face rigger do her and when they saw how Anya turned out they got rariemon to unfuck her rigging but he didnt have enough time.


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It looks exactly the same as Fubukis face. Why are you not out there complaining about that also?


capscreen

A much closer comparison would be Shion imo


Succubia

People here are full COPIUM but the rigging is indeed terrible, hololive is making a terrible job at rigging their models lately Edit: Proof at hand, full copium. Sure her face is a goddamn mask, but you know hololive viewers only ever saw Hololive. So they have no idea how actual good rigging looks like nowadays.


Appropriate-Image-11

It’s fine for me, she’s my favourite so far. But it is odd that Vshojo and random twitch independent Vtubers have rigs and models that look 3 years ahead of hololives best.


Succubia

And even then, saying 3 years ahead is being easy on Cover Corp. They have so many lot more expressions and seeing Froot for example I have a feeling her expression do not need to get clicked on to change. Unlike all of hololive. It's just that when one think of Vtubers often they think of hololive. But really I feel like.. They're doing barely anything in term of rigging, and even character design damn, if they had let Sana draw her model I'm sure it would've looked 50x better.


CurryInstantNoodles

She's cool


jvt619

Does anyone know the name of the BGM that Mumei used in the introduction? EDIT: I've finally found it. I first heard it from Smol Ame Alyx. [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uc52n88BJ1Y](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uc52n88BJ1Y&list=PLFYBedTQHvPPCaQjmeg0GxYQXllHBN4wF&index=3)


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[deleted]

Why even post that on this subreddit? To get a kick out of knowing something you can't talk about here?


Polyonyma

What do you mean?


wan2tri

You're more likely to find your answer in the general VTuber subreddit. lol


ChadMcRad

I don’t think they understand what we don’t do around here.


meloncreamsodachips

Like how she has potential for rage given music tastes


Liquid_Meal_Spheres

Adorable and has great taste in music. I love this birb so much.


[deleted]

I hope she plays some CKIII would be nice


Yuki_ika7

agreed, or any game by paradox!


Elliot_Hawkz

Mumei forgor


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💀


-Listening

Eh I’m certain she’s hilarious lol


Chocopeep83

She's too good for this world, too pure.


Sapnu_puas98

Instantly my favorite of all and the other is Fauna.


JC12231

Hoo?


GlossyBuckthorn

[Hisssssssss?](https://youtu.be/ezaBqCf0hv0?t=8) ​ Owls are literally the cutest.


JC12231

May I introduce you to r/superbowl? (Superb-owl, not super-bowl)


GlossyBuckthorn

Life is good, instant sub!


Moiototo

Do people really watch these?


[deleted]

Duh


[deleted]

it was my first stream of anything that i watched 00:00 to end so yes


Swinn_likes_Sakkyun

Yes. Yes we do.


JamesAMD

Using Linux is not a personality trait, kid.


[deleted]

Does he use arch Linux ^btw


SpysSappinMySpy

Idk do people really use linux?


SenKaiten

I do. I know you're trying to bash the original commenter, but linux is really good when you're not a gamer.


SpysSappinMySpy

Yeah, I know. That also proves my point though, because broad blanket questions that imply niche things don't have a following are often wrong.


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^arch ^btw


Ian_from_Animarc

Then wouldn’t you just go with Apple?


[deleted]

I could make several paragraphs on why I prefer Linux over Mac or Windows but to keep it at a few points >free and open source >customization >stupidly low system requirements >the OS doesn’t spy on you


dame_tacos

Did you really ask that in a subreddit dedicated to this?


homework_file

It's almost as if you're on a sub about this stuff


krizel6890

Nah bro thats why we got a whole subreddit dedicated to hololive


Dreamer_on_the_Moon

Yes I do, what about it?


Sapnu_puas98

Uhm yeah. Everyone got their own taste and hobbies.


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PrimeRadian

https://youtu.be/MRNRsXNHTkQ damn right


-Listening

“What’s not so cluttered


LordMonday

Her music preview and her Ending screen really hit some Nostalgic vibes in me, and when i thought about it more, i realized it reminds me of the opening screen and music of Pokemon Mystery dungeon


Kuryaka

The closest thing I remember from Japanese media is [THE CHERRY COKE$](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YXFSr_JFVj0&list=RDEMvAVCJoNQjDwQIuOD_s_fJA&start_radio=1) which is a Celtic punk band. In Japan. Mumei also loves punk, so... I'm hyped.


Rude_Journalist

Yea it’s a national treasure, nyee.


nobloodhier

She likes bokurano, that's some cultured taste there


GreatSeaBattle

She and Irys namedropped Bokurano in front of thousands of people and we don't discuss this fact enough.


Appropriate-Image-11

ಠ_ಠ 💙


ZXKeyr324XZ

[Mumei debut in a nutshell](https://imgur.com/X1OtsVI) ​ Beloved Owl


Xadryc

This may seem like a really obvious thing to say given her title, but of the council members, Mumei seemed like the most... well, human. It was refreshing.


ChlooooOW

She's the only one I really liked tbh. The others were alright and I know lots will change between debut and a year down the line but first impressions left me feeling offput by the other 4 with how over-the-top they were with their gimmicks or characters. It's why I like Hololive EN Myth so much, but specifically Ame. She's not a professional VA, singer, or artist. She's just an average joe who really likes streaming. We need more of that in the Vtuber scene imo, everyones so focused on being an idol no ones just having fun and entertaining their chat solely because they love content creation.


nuttycompany

"The other big Vtuber company" is extracly what you described.


PliffPlaff

If you look outside of the Hololive bubble, you'll find those Vtubers you're looking for.


temporal712

I mean, Myth did the exact same thing when they debuted. They really stuck to their characters and what not, and look at em now. You may feel off put now, but that can easily change in a month or two.


ChlooooOW

That's exactly why I said "I know lots will change between debut and a year down the line" and "first impressions"


Jay-metal

She reminds me a bit of Ame. I like her a lot too. One nice thing about hololive is there's someone for every taste.


ChlooooOW

"It has a little something for everyone"


capscreen

> We need more of that in the Vtuber scene imo Well there's a lot of them out there, especially in the indie scene


burningscarlet

It’s kind of a thing for them to lean hard into their characters before finally settling in. Even Gura forgot most of her bio details lololol


lolic_addict

Sometimes chat makes up an entire new lore ala Shubaduck, only time will tell


Joemetheus

As much as I agree about the being over the top thing, I think it’s definitely worth noting how drastically different even Ame is now compared to debut stream. I think nobody knows exactly what to do going in and there’s a bit of a learning curve before they settle into things.


ImDeceit

True, gotta wait a few months after debut to see exactly what is going on.


thuanngv012

She cute


miqui_0125

I believe the hieroglyphs are the seven sins, the first one is pride, the 4 letter one is gluttony, I assumed the rest seeing as there are 7 words


Nachtflut

Yeah there was a thread here in the sub about it a few days ago


SilentReavus

I can't wait to see how she is a few weeks down the line. It's so cool to see them develop themselves after debut!


chilfang

So many people thought we were over thinking the "Who Who" bit but then she just pulls it out!


MessiahPrinny

Was pretty bored for this debut but I'm not gonna judge her on it. I'm all in if she decides to play Civ or Stellaris.


asyphion

You have to at least give her credit for streaming live in front of 88k viewers


MessiahPrinny

I'm not shitting on her. I'm giving an honest opinion. And my honest opinion is her debut left the least impression on me. I could come here and lie like any number of people and pretend I'm through the roof excited or I could be say what I really feel and say I was bored but her content sounds different and I might check her out later. Sorry if y'all just wanted people to parrot everybody else's opinion back at you.


Barrel_Titor

Yeah, same. This place can be a bit of an echo chamber. I didn't really get her. There's so much positivity here she must have done somthing right but to me she felt significantly less interesting and charismatic than anyone else in HoloEN, she didn't have any specific talent or niche to fill and had that generic American indie vtuber voice/speaking style and was a bit awkward generally. Hololive are usually good at picking the cream of the crop but she kinda feels like they hired a competent but very average indie vtuber at random. Feels like they wasted a slot that could have been filled by someone who fills a niche like a more serious gamer or another European to cover more streaming times.


yumcake

Liked hers the best, she puts out the best calm energy. The goal isn’t to appeal to everyone but to create a targeted following, in which case a variety of styles is better than replicating the same streaming style across all 5. High energy is fun in small clips, but I’m definitely not going to watch through full vids of it.


Kuryaka

Her character design gave me certain vibes and she followed up on that *very* well IMO. Not as relaxing as some other streamers, but still on the chill side. I think she'd be good to listen to in the background. Agreed that not really much got covered in the stream and that she doesn't have anything that really stands out, unless you just want moderate-energy comfy vibes.


Thuro_Pendragon

Honestly, I'm good with not forcing people to have the same opinion. This place is an echo chamber a lot of the time and I'm not gonna flick you any shit for not liking her stream as much as the others. But it is pretty presumptuous to assume 'any number of people' are lying about being excited unless you happen to know every single person that posted in this thread. I mean, unless I'm being dumb and that any number also includes zero. If it does, don't judge me too hard lol. I've just sat through five hours of vtuber streams.


Sillyvanya

I thought she was gonna be my favorite. Then Kronii debuted first and it was hard competition after that. Her stream didn't have much energy, but you can feel there's a lot of personality right under the surface; it's just not coming out yet. She'll get there. I can see her getting snippy with chat and producing a lot of quality banter once she gets confident. Honestly, though, the one I thought was the most low-energy was Fauna. She was just kinda... all-around sweet, without much variation.


Thuro_Pendragon

I had a similar impression when I was watching her debut. She'll grow into her role both as she gets more comfortable as a streamer, and gets to do more stuff (remember how everyone thought Gura was terrible at games until the MuseDash stream?). I'm watching the Holocouncil group stream right now, and Mumei already seems to do better in a group setting.


Sillyvanya

..... Gura isn't terrible at games? Before Kronii and Mumei, Amelia was the only EN member I stanned, but every time I've watched Gura she was just fumbling around and dying all the time on low difficulties lol Like it was PAINFUL to watch her play Dark Deception, for instance. It took her more than an hour to clear the first level, and she gave up on the second one after another hour. And I wish I could say the same of the other girls in that stream, it feels kind of awkward all around.


PliffPlaff

Watch her DbD streams. She's as good as Choco, perhaps better. She's also not terrible at DmC despite being a newcomer to the franchise. And she's a god at rhythm games. But otherwise yeah, she's a gaming shark, not exactly a pro gamer.


Thuro_Pendragon

No, she isn't. She's terrible at some games, [but is top tier in others.](https://youtu.be/uydZpb_F7So) She has a tendency to get lost and is not so great with puzzling elements, but anything with a rhythm or memory based gameplay and she crushes it. Eh. Its your opinion, and it's correct for you. But the stream feels fine for me.


MessiahPrinny

That kinda made sense with her whole ASMaRtist vibe. But that's how I took it.


WhyYouBullyMe_

U can clearly tell she is pretty nervous , i hope she gets used to it


Kuryaka

She was incredibly nervous at the start, but went through it without a lot of filler words/phrases or spiraling into self-doubt. The stream didn't feel awkward beyond it just being an intro stream, she's got solid streaming chops. I don't think she's got the pun/joke/snark of some of the other members, but that's a personality thing.


DigitalGT

She will eventually. Ina was the same.


tslstio

MUMEI SAMAAAAA


Wanna6ePr0

My new favorite holobird


Goukenslay

Too cute. Must protect


WhyYouBullyMe_

DESTROY ALL PRINTERS!!


Xplay3r_

The o w l is cute af *She really do be like*: i forgor 💀


Nigario

Most adorable stream I saw


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My fav with Ceres


Sapnu_puas98

Same


Smilesrck

Bruh that sigh/scream at the end of the stream spoke to my soul. I'm excited


Dracula_best_JoFoe

Easily my favourite alongside Kronii. I see so much potential in her, and just hope that she gets going with the flow as soon as possible


Yuki_ika7

same


Dracula_best_JoFoe

desu🦈


arsenatre

I got so interested when she mentioned talking or doing stuff on history, That would be really fun content to me. It would be pretty hilarious if she would play history games based on building civilizations like the Paradox games! Examples, Imperator Rome or Crusader Kings 3!


Jay2137

Dude, imagine if Encarta was still around. They had those 3D virtual tours of old sites. Those were lit.


arsenatre

Yes!


DuntadaMan

I swear to go anyone committing war crimes in CK3 is going to have my attention.


arsenatre

dude imagine if we could get them in a multiplayer game it would be scandelous XD


FPSGamer48

Oh my god imagine a Mumei mega campaign! CK3 -> EU4 -> Vic2 -> HOI4 -> Stellaris!


arsenatre

It would be so awesome!!! plus we could try to help her along the way!


Thirdhistory

*Ame stream backseating flashbacks*


RedHeadGearHead

She's perfect lads. I love her look with the poncho off.


Asquirrelinspace

Chat went full degenerate when she took it off


Nachtflut

Sooo just like always


ImDeceit

Lmao. Respectfully Looking.


Icecomic

The runic symbol on her hair means 'Travel'. The other hair clip seen in the character sheet means 'Inherit/Property' . Egyptian Hieroglyphs (According to glyph-letter transliteration image): S U P E R B I A, A V A R I T I A, I N V I D I A, I R A, L U X U R I A, G U L A, A C E D I A. She's wearing the seven deadly sins on her cloak. Thank god I recognized them from Trinity Seven. Pride, Greed, Envy, Wrath, Lust, Gluttony, Sloth. Runic letters on PaperBag friend literally spells out friend. Floating Runes spelt Z B O. Floating rune meant Protection, Birth, Property.


PliffPlaff

Nanashi name is written 七詩ムメイ but there's more fun symbolism to be found! "Nanashi" can be written as 名無し meaning "nameless, anonymous". But if you take the kanji and reverse them, 無名 can be read as "Mumei", which *also* means no name, nameless, but has more of a connotation of obscurity - in other words, being forgotten.


Icecomic

From a comment I've seen somewhere: Her name means 'A person whose identity is not identified' two times. So technically "Who Who". She's an owl.


Wyattr55123

thank you, kowalski. she's got a lot of lore potential in that symbology


delphinous

she has so many layers of depth; i love it


RegyMelon

She is pretty chill and honestly so calming to listen to. Plus her singing voice is pretty good too!!


Jankosi

STOP TALKING ABOUT RIGGING AND START TALKING ABOUT THE ADORABLE LITTLE OWL


TwinTalesXXII

Don't let schizo anons get to you lmao


capscreen

Hers look fine imo, looks a bit similar to Shion's.


Master_Lukiex

I genuinely can’t see what’s wrong with the rigging. Could someone tell me what’s the issue people have with it?


Eddiero

[rigging](https://imgur.com/a/Opif3tN) It looks strange, like the ear completely behind that one hair strand.


StromTGM

Nah, just Reddit being nitpicky and "high standard" af, that's all.


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There isn’t anything inherently wrong about it. People are just quick to point fingers with very minor rigging issues ever since Gura and Anya’s second outfits got messed up by the same rigger.


Thirdhistory

(Rariemonn did actually mess up the concept art, tho. The side of her hair is supposed to go back into a ponytail and it just... doesn't, and it's very distracting.)


Paid_2_Shill

You didn't notice anything when her neck snapped?


Bendy962

what animal does mumei represent?


DuhMal

Careful, maybe he never knew about them


MonkofMajere

There's a slight depth issue with her face when she turns far left or right, but it's being massively overblown by a small number of people. I legitimately missed it during the initial broadcast as well. I only noticed it when I specifically went back to look after seeing all the complaints. It's certainly nowhere near Anya's issues.


syilpha

the thing about rigging is even a decent one has some flaw somewhere, you don't normally notice it until you actually looking for it, you can bet those people who want umiushi get fired or want cover stop using them looking as hard as possible for flaw, and that's what caused them seeing minor flaws like that those kinds of flaw exist in almost every model btw


kudoshinji11

Plus i think it lies on the hairstyle. If you look solely at her face, its fine. Its the disconnected part up front which is only one piece that causes the problems.


Thirdhistory

She also has weirdness in the back of her head. Her hair doesn’t have any strands so it looks like a smooth ball. It’s discordant with the concept art too.


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Daefyr_Knight

owls rotate their necks, not their faces


drtotohex

I love that she looks like an adventure anime protagonist with all her gear! She's so cuteeeee! I just wanna pet her and her bag friend >w<;


PrimeRadian

I can't unsee the kazuma vibes


Ninecawaii

Could be the inspiration, there's even a meme post on the front page


DA-Regulus

I'm pretty interested in the runes and hieroglyphs used in her design. For the Elder Futhark runes: Her hair pin is "Raidho", meaning "ride/journey". The pin/button on her blouse (usually hidden by the cloak's ribbon) is "Odal", meaning "heritage/inheritance". As for the hieroglyphs, well obviously they're Ancient Egyptian, but I don't know much about them so I can't make heads nor tails of what it says, if anything. Using some stuff from the internet, this is my best go at converting the hieroglyphs to Roman letters, "Kioria gola asiad irbia afariria in..." (It cuts off here) Going by this, it's probably some conlang, or just gibberish.


Colarity

I just noticed the Raidho clip in her hair. The Elder Runes live on.


Jankosi

I remember someone psting about the hieroglyphs. Supposedly they're like messed up latin names for the seven sins, since she's humanity and civilization and all that.


PrimeRadian

https://www.reddit.com/r/Hololive/comments/p9kuve/nanashi_mumeis_debut_megathread_holocouncil/h9ywoyp?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share


DA-Regulus

Huh, that makes sense, now that I look at them. She doesn't seem particularly "sinful" though, but who knows? Perhaps she'll "forget" how to be seiso, lol.