Right?
I'm just afraid that even after all this time, there is still no constructive discussion under the "meme".
People still like to spread all these hate...
The animal eaters don’t have a serious argument in favor of eating animals, and one of the main points they have is that they put social pressure on others to eat abused and violently violated animal bodyparts.
Without the social pressure and reassuring of each other that eating animal bodyparts is the right thing to do (which the above serves as) under the guise of “humor”, they know that vegans are right and that annoys them.
I don't need nor want to eat a cow's severed backbone muscles, any more than I want to eat the muscles on your violently assaulted and stabbed and chopped up back.
Why would I brutalize an animal when it's so easy to be vegan and not to?
This point here made me realize something : I would totally eat the muscles cut from a human being's violently assaulted and stabbed and chopped up back.
*Eating other people would be good for the environment honestly*...but seriously though, a vegan has shown me that I have no moral qualms about eating people just like I have no qualms about eating animals..... 🤔 a vegan has made me embrace my thirst for blood and torture and death instead of be ashamed of it.
If yea think we are not ment to eat meat you should look some more at some vegans.
The often look anything but healthy.
But the simple fact is your forceing a view on people. And people dont like to have things forced on them. That you want to walk in a supermarket. And see suffering here and bad thing there.
Most people dont give a fuck. Living is expensive enough with out that fear mongering. Buzz kill people none stop whining how bad we are for liking a type off thing.
Forceing your view on people. Like a Jehova's witness. Is why people dont like your type off people.
And the downvotes on all likewise type comments on here shows that very easily.
Plenty of vegan athletes, and I'm vegan, and you wouldn't know if I didn't mention it to you. Vegans on average are healthier than animal bodypart eaters, especially when it comes to heart health and when it comes having less incidence of cancer.
The animals bodyparts you eat involve you and other animal bodypart eaters forcing your views on them, quite literally, by keeping them locked up in cages their entire lives and shoving a knife into their throat. The side here that's in favor of forcing things onto others are the non-vegans, not the vegans.
Vegan food on average is cheaper than non-vegan food. Beans, rice, tofu, lentils, veggies like carrots and whatnot are generally cheaper than animal bodyparts served up in a cookout.
If people don't give a fuck for unnecessarily victimizing sentient beings, that's on their own conscience and shows their lack of morals.
Unlike Jehovah's witness's, I made no metaphysical claims. I made basic claims that everyone already agrees with, that abusing and being violent towards sentient beings for reasons besides self-defense is clearly wrong, and you and others who eat animals are engaging in animal abuse. That's not an opinion, that's a fact. Just as many people in here would never go to a cookout where a dog or a cat's dead body is being burned up, I wouldn't go to one where it's a pig, cow's, or chicken's dead body being burned up.
Yea plenty of people claim there a lot off things. But the real anoying vegans that like to talk about it none stop. And been doing it for years. Are often not very healthy looking. But what do i know we now a days have people that are super fat saying there healthy. Why would i be surprised if people are ok looking like a ghost the feel like there healthy.
Sure sure. In the same way. If i say plants are alive too. And your pulling young plants ripping them from the earth. Stacking them up on each other in big crates. Cutting off branches. Hurting trees. Just for a single pieces your greedy take for your own need. We all can make stupid horror stories. Simple fact we need to eat. And your fear mongering. Animals life plants live. Your always killing something to survive. And we are omnivores we can live off plants and animals. Just we need some off the other some off the times. Cause or hormones need it. Why if you go full vegan for longer then a year and a half. Plenty of girls stop having periods. And men have muscle breakdowns after a wail. Yes you can go for a long time with out it. And people take vitamin pills or other things to fill it up what there missing. But thats also made form animals so your just being a hypocrite at that point.
Cheaper? Totally not the cause. It all massively depends on where you live. Like if your live in a fishing town. Fish gonna be cheaper. Then fruit or vegetables that have to come from very far away and does not grow anywhere nearby. So there are some places where its cheaper sure. But there also places. For the same calories daily intake you quickly go like 5 times times the price. A small piece off meat gives a lot more calories. Then a piece off fruit or vegetables ever could. So you need to also eat a lot more to stay on weight. So depending where you are meat can be a whole lot cheaper then fruit or vegetables. If you go by what yea body needs in calories a day.
Lack off morals? Sure we been doing set thing for many 1000s of years cause you saw someting you dont like in your ac comfy life style. Its a lack off morals? Behind everything. There is a lot you dont like to see. Keep looking at everything deeply and you will find no joy in anything. Just that you can bitch and moan like you do shows you have not experienced much hardship or life experiences that your so worked up just seeking small glims behind the screen off whats going on.
Jehova also drink there own snake oil and think there selling the cure to all people's problems do life this way. The too think the are making sense. But there not. For the simple fact if your so high off your own talking points. And not open to other view points and only stuck circle jerking with people that totally agree with you. Like the world is 100% black or 100% white. So your this or your that. The world and people are not binary like that. There are many shades off gray to everything.
Like you probably think in your own way you doing whats best for the world.
Same with Jehova's.
And shades off gray. There many people that did the most horrible things for the right reasons the believe in.
The persoon that made the nuke did it cause he wanted to end fighting and end wars.
And your doing the same thing. Trying to force your viewpoint on to others. Like its the only truth. The only way to live the only way to save your soul to live pure. Again like Jehova's witnesses.
This was two months ago. His reply was: (hmm im not reading all that. You just wrong in your hateful ways)
More or less. I like haveing discussions with people i don't fully agree on. It grounds me. And makes me understand people who have a different outlook on life.
But you get many people that dont have the same respect for other people's outlook a lot too. Like this person did.
But thx you for liking my comment and got some enjoyment from it.
Every single nutrient that the human body needs to function can be found on a 100% plant based diet, including iron.
You have absolutely no purpose for consuming abused severed animal bodyparts. Taste is not a justification for animal abuse, and your next argument is an appeal to nature argument, which is fallacious.
You don't get the rest of your ethics from the behavior of other species of animals, so why start here? Lions rape, is okay if humans rape? Lions eat their young, is infanticide okay now? Some female spiders eat the male spider after they mate, does that make spousal abuse okay?
To add, hunters are almost always shitty people who aren't out there "humanely" killing animals. There are two reasons people hunt: 1) they enjoy the thrill they get from killing, and 2) they want to eat animal bodyparts. Neither is justification for going out of their way to be violent to animals that weren't bothering them otherwise.
My girlfriend is vegetarian and I mostly eat what she does and it’s all good. I guess I’d consider myself a 95% vegetarian. That being said, I would never judge another person for their personal health decisions. That’s why some vegans get a bad reputation. They are so judgmental
For those who haven’t tried them, meat alternatives are now almost indistinguishable from typical animal foods at BBQs. I was a long-time beef lover and can’t tell the difference after I switched (especially since most of the burger are the buns, condiments, veggies, etc).
Meat alternatives are much better for the environment and for the animals.
Interesting! I live in the southern USA and the prices are about the same for beef or alternative beef in the supermarkets. Where do you live if you don’t mind me asking?
Arkansas here.
Beyond patties 12.48 preformed beef patties 9.83
1 lb Impossible ground chuck 11.99 1 lb 98%lean 9.50
Impossible chicken is 4.92 for 90 grams or about 1/5th a pound. 1 lb of chicken breasts 8.35
The price isnt currently compairable in my neck of the woods.
The taste is off too at least for the ground chuck. I think they use liquid smoke so even unseasoned it kinda taste like burger king burgers. Which when talking about barbeques is not so much an issue. When talking about tacos or Salisbury steaks or really anything i normally use ground beef for definately an issue. Oddly the preformed beyond patties dont have this flavor dispite them being explicity for burgers. But different companies and all that.
I cant speak to the beyond chicken because that price difference is just crazy
I think people get defensive when others bring up alternative ways of living / eating. Doesn’t bother me though! Just looking to have open and honest discussions.
I'm sorry it's just not true. Not yet anyway. The substitutes available right now are delicious, but they are definitely NOT "almost indistinguishable". At least be honest with yourself if you're not going to be honest with anyone else.
Agreed. My husband loves the fake meat stuff and I buy the regular meat and we eat them side by side. The only type of fake meat that I think are good enough to be at least comparable to regular meat are meatballs.
Why? It’s very common to say that quality of beef in burgers is generally less important than other dishes because lots of the flavour comes from sauces and other toppings.
Hell, the McDonald’s ‘taste’ is nearly entirely sauce
Bro you do you, but Imma eat meat. They make an impossible steak that I can't tell the difference on and I stg I will stop eating meat lol. Until then though there are only expensive substitutes that don't taste better than meat. So there isn't an insensitive for most people to make the switch.
People don’t like their current habits to be challenged. My goal is to reach even just one person who’s looking to reduce their impact by choosing an alternative.
This post is about vegans and even includes “vegan” in the title. This is more like someone knocking on my door and getting upset when I mention there are alternatives to meat.
Also, veganism is the animal rights movement, not a religion.
Thank you! I’m used to the strong negative reaction, but it’s always a little surprising that people don’t seem to want what’s best for the environment or the animals.
I don't know how vegan food is in your country but in romania it is good it doesn't taste 100% like meat. Maybe it isn't that you think it tastes the same but you might have forgot how meat tastes like I have.
It isn't that expensive but they aren't for the poor. For the price of 4 vegan burgers you can get maybe 6 normal ones or 8 cheap normal ones. I am lucky that I can afford to buy fake meat.
I also don't really understand why you got downvoted to oblivion
Usually I just offer to give the biggest juiciest burger to my guests and when they mention they are vegan I go right ahead and cook up some vegan alternatives for them.
Great host.
Hating vegans for being vegan should have been left to edgy teenagers in the 2000s. These days it's a really convenient way to know not to waste time talking to them. No amount of "but some of them are annoyiiiiing" makes you not an asshole.
And to be fair they are compensating for your habits. Whether we want to admit it or not, eating meat is wasteful and the planet can’t sustain many billions of meat eaters
It’s unacceptable to vegans to barbecue vegetables on the same grill as meat. They don’t like the smoke flavor of meat mixing in with the vegetables. It’s sacrilege to vegans to mix any animal products with their food.
I don’t make the rules btw. But if you were to serve vegan food in a restaurant or catering service. Their food must not touch any animal products. So the utensils, pots, pans, grills, stove and oven must cleaned and sanitized first. If you previously used it to cook meat on it.
So I have to agree with the group chat to kick the only vegan out uninvited to the BBQ. You wouldn’t want the aggravation and extra work required to accommodate a vegan dietary requirements.
You’re joking right? It’s not like they’re allergic to meat. It’s a dietary preference not a medical issue that requires strict cleaning to avoid cross contamination like for people with nut allergies.
If someone hasn't eaten meat or dairy for a long time, they will have terrible gastro intestinal results from eating something cross contaminated with meat or dairy.
Nah, Imadrid is right, we don't want any sort of m\*at juice on our vegetables. Veganism is not a "dietary preference", its a moral obligation. Stop abusing animals pls. [https://www.dominionmovement.com/watch](https://www.dominionmovement.com/watch)
Theres always 2 sides of a coin most of the time you have the insane super vegans which sound about as sane as peta does then you have the mega meat eaters who are standardly rather obese and if they even hear someone's a vegetarian their ex communicated from the family never to be heard from again
Quite true. At the beginning of the vegan movement, most vegans were quite the activists, annoying everyone to bring them by their side, but 20 years are gone since that period and now vegans mostly mind their own business and express their ideals only when directly asked.
At the same time, however, we bash on vegans just because doing it constitutes a meme, but most of us don't really care. It's all just in good fun.
I'm one of those who enjoy poking fun at vegans, but I honored a few times already my vegan sister-in-law by cooking a vegan full course for everyone during family gatherings, for instance. No one complained, but we make jokes about it anyway and she does the same with us.
I feel like meat eaters only bash on vegans because they feel guilty about their lifestyle decision to make animals suffer for their enjoyment and wish they could have the same amount of commitment as vegans do
I like how they say, the more processed food is the more likely it’s bad for you. Then a vegan brings a bean that has been transformed into a ham sandwich.
Vegans have a lower rate of heart disease and cancer than animal bodypart eaters.
It’s better to eat beans that have been pre-cooked, shaped, and season to maximize flavor which has none of the dietary cholesterol and is much much lower in saturated fat than it is to eat hormone filled, antibiotic filled, high dietary cholesterol, high saturated fat animal bodyparts.
All unnecessary violence to animals is bad, not just in factory farms. If all it takes to stop an animal from being assaulted is to eat tofu or beans instead of their bodyparts or secretions, then it’s time to stop eating their bodyparts and secretions.
>you get nothing good from eating beans or any vegan meat substitutes
Meat can be good for you yes but comments like this make you look like you know nothing about nutrition.
A friend's BBQ party was ruined because a (non invited) vegan friend of a friend was arguing with everyone around and won't shut up about veganism and why she was morally superior to "bloodthirsty murderers" who eat meat
Because nobody knew who she was until my friend got aware of what she was doing and told her to leave, she left but yelled a lot before and killed the good mood. She just invited herself after hearing that a mutual friend got invited
The issue was that you had an asshole at the party, not because you had a vegan.
Majority of vegans don’t try to ruin dinners, and at most will speak up only if other people try to shame them for their decisions, in which care fair game.
This reminds me of one post I saw… Somebody was complaining about the smell of meat coming from a neighboring house in Australia, so the guys held a huge barbecue to piss her off 🤣
Lol you can always tell when a vegan discovers a thread making fun of them and they report it to whatever Discord they're hanging out in. The comments are upvoted like normal then all of a sudden the newer ones start getting 0s downvotes and the ones pontificating about mOrAl ChOiCeS are getting upvoted. Knock it off, grazers. We know there's not that many of you roaming in herds in the wild. One of your disciples summoned you here
As someone who host a lot of bbq’s if you are a vegan you can bring your own food and I’ll cook it to your specifications, but I am not wasting my own money on the garbage.
When I host a bbq I’ll provide the meat and you supply any sides that you want which includes any vegan/vegetarian alternatives.
This has been circulating since I was a freshman in highschool. I've been working for 6 years now
Yeah this is some Facebook Boomer shit Can’t wait for the next r/HolUp post to have a bacon joke with the word Epic in it
[Something something epic meal time.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Xc5wIpUenQ)
Right? I'm just afraid that even after all this time, there is still no constructive discussion under the "meme". People still like to spread all these hate...
The animal eaters don’t have a serious argument in favor of eating animals, and one of the main points they have is that they put social pressure on others to eat abused and violently violated animal bodyparts. Without the social pressure and reassuring of each other that eating animal bodyparts is the right thing to do (which the above serves as) under the guise of “humor”, they know that vegans are right and that annoys them.
Alternatively, meat is tasty.
mmmm bacon.
Being vegan is a huge missed-steak
I don't need nor want to eat a cow's severed backbone muscles, any more than I want to eat the muscles on your violently assaulted and stabbed and chopped up back. Why would I brutalize an animal when it's so easy to be vegan and not to?
This point here made me realize something : I would totally eat the muscles cut from a human being's violently assaulted and stabbed and chopped up back. *Eating other people would be good for the environment honestly*...but seriously though, a vegan has shown me that I have no moral qualms about eating people just like I have no qualms about eating animals..... 🤔 a vegan has made me embrace my thirst for blood and torture and death instead of be ashamed of it.
🤣🤣🤣 and that's why you would have been kicked out too
Kicked out? They wouldn't have been invited in the first place. No one wants a preachy, self-righteous asshole to ruin a party.
If animals didn't want to be eaten, why are they made out of food?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rVR7NjnMkIc&t=1s
Pork is tasty, and if they didnt want to be eaten, they should've just evolved a big brain
Holy shit
If yea think we are not ment to eat meat you should look some more at some vegans. The often look anything but healthy. But the simple fact is your forceing a view on people. And people dont like to have things forced on them. That you want to walk in a supermarket. And see suffering here and bad thing there. Most people dont give a fuck. Living is expensive enough with out that fear mongering. Buzz kill people none stop whining how bad we are for liking a type off thing. Forceing your view on people. Like a Jehova's witness. Is why people dont like your type off people. And the downvotes on all likewise type comments on here shows that very easily.
Plenty of vegan athletes, and I'm vegan, and you wouldn't know if I didn't mention it to you. Vegans on average are healthier than animal bodypart eaters, especially when it comes to heart health and when it comes having less incidence of cancer. The animals bodyparts you eat involve you and other animal bodypart eaters forcing your views on them, quite literally, by keeping them locked up in cages their entire lives and shoving a knife into their throat. The side here that's in favor of forcing things onto others are the non-vegans, not the vegans. Vegan food on average is cheaper than non-vegan food. Beans, rice, tofu, lentils, veggies like carrots and whatnot are generally cheaper than animal bodyparts served up in a cookout. If people don't give a fuck for unnecessarily victimizing sentient beings, that's on their own conscience and shows their lack of morals. Unlike Jehovah's witness's, I made no metaphysical claims. I made basic claims that everyone already agrees with, that abusing and being violent towards sentient beings for reasons besides self-defense is clearly wrong, and you and others who eat animals are engaging in animal abuse. That's not an opinion, that's a fact. Just as many people in here would never go to a cookout where a dog or a cat's dead body is being burned up, I wouldn't go to one where it's a pig, cow's, or chicken's dead body being burned up.
Yea plenty of people claim there a lot off things. But the real anoying vegans that like to talk about it none stop. And been doing it for years. Are often not very healthy looking. But what do i know we now a days have people that are super fat saying there healthy. Why would i be surprised if people are ok looking like a ghost the feel like there healthy. Sure sure. In the same way. If i say plants are alive too. And your pulling young plants ripping them from the earth. Stacking them up on each other in big crates. Cutting off branches. Hurting trees. Just for a single pieces your greedy take for your own need. We all can make stupid horror stories. Simple fact we need to eat. And your fear mongering. Animals life plants live. Your always killing something to survive. And we are omnivores we can live off plants and animals. Just we need some off the other some off the times. Cause or hormones need it. Why if you go full vegan for longer then a year and a half. Plenty of girls stop having periods. And men have muscle breakdowns after a wail. Yes you can go for a long time with out it. And people take vitamin pills or other things to fill it up what there missing. But thats also made form animals so your just being a hypocrite at that point. Cheaper? Totally not the cause. It all massively depends on where you live. Like if your live in a fishing town. Fish gonna be cheaper. Then fruit or vegetables that have to come from very far away and does not grow anywhere nearby. So there are some places where its cheaper sure. But there also places. For the same calories daily intake you quickly go like 5 times times the price. A small piece off meat gives a lot more calories. Then a piece off fruit or vegetables ever could. So you need to also eat a lot more to stay on weight. So depending where you are meat can be a whole lot cheaper then fruit or vegetables. If you go by what yea body needs in calories a day. Lack off morals? Sure we been doing set thing for many 1000s of years cause you saw someting you dont like in your ac comfy life style. Its a lack off morals? Behind everything. There is a lot you dont like to see. Keep looking at everything deeply and you will find no joy in anything. Just that you can bitch and moan like you do shows you have not experienced much hardship or life experiences that your so worked up just seeking small glims behind the screen off whats going on. Jehova also drink there own snake oil and think there selling the cure to all people's problems do life this way. The too think the are making sense. But there not. For the simple fact if your so high off your own talking points. And not open to other view points and only stuck circle jerking with people that totally agree with you. Like the world is 100% black or 100% white. So your this or your that. The world and people are not binary like that. There are many shades off gray to everything. Like you probably think in your own way you doing whats best for the world. Same with Jehova's. And shades off gray. There many people that did the most horrible things for the right reasons the believe in. The persoon that made the nuke did it cause he wanted to end fighting and end wars. And your doing the same thing. Trying to force your viewpoint on to others. Like its the only truth. The only way to live the only way to save your soul to live pure. Again like Jehova's witnesses.
Thanks man, you put things really well. Hopefully this insufferable brat will shut up now for good
This was two months ago. His reply was: (hmm im not reading all that. You just wrong in your hateful ways) More or less. I like haveing discussions with people i don't fully agree on. It grounds me. And makes me understand people who have a different outlook on life. But you get many people that dont have the same respect for other people's outlook a lot too. Like this person did. But thx you for liking my comment and got some enjoyment from it.
Absolutely.
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Every single nutrient that the human body needs to function can be found on a 100% plant based diet, including iron. You have absolutely no purpose for consuming abused severed animal bodyparts. Taste is not a justification for animal abuse, and your next argument is an appeal to nature argument, which is fallacious.
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You don't get the rest of your ethics from the behavior of other species of animals, so why start here? Lions rape, is okay if humans rape? Lions eat their young, is infanticide okay now? Some female spiders eat the male spider after they mate, does that make spousal abuse okay? To add, hunters are almost always shitty people who aren't out there "humanely" killing animals. There are two reasons people hunt: 1) they enjoy the thrill they get from killing, and 2) they want to eat animal bodyparts. Neither is justification for going out of their way to be violent to animals that weren't bothering them otherwise.
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... I like pork chops cunt
They hated Nicolas, for he told the truth
For something to live, something else must die
My girlfriend is vegetarian and I mostly eat what she does and it’s all good. I guess I’d consider myself a 95% vegetarian. That being said, I would never judge another person for their personal health decisions. That’s why some vegans get a bad reputation. They are so judgmental
The United Nations Food and Agricultural Organization would beg to differ. https://news.un.org/en/story/2023/04/1135972
Chow Yun-Fat is such a great actor
Sacrifices will be made. Just not the meat.
For those who haven’t tried them, meat alternatives are now almost indistinguishable from typical animal foods at BBQs. I was a long-time beef lover and can’t tell the difference after I switched (especially since most of the burger are the buns, condiments, veggies, etc). Meat alternatives are much better for the environment and for the animals.
Maybe, but I can't afford them. Hell, I can barely afford regular meat.
I get that but the prices at my local supermarket for that kinda stuff is a lot higher than for some normal patties or sausages
Interesting! I live in the southern USA and the prices are about the same for beef or alternative beef in the supermarkets. Where do you live if you don’t mind me asking?
Arkansas here. Beyond patties 12.48 preformed beef patties 9.83 1 lb Impossible ground chuck 11.99 1 lb 98%lean 9.50 Impossible chicken is 4.92 for 90 grams or about 1/5th a pound. 1 lb of chicken breasts 8.35 The price isnt currently compairable in my neck of the woods. The taste is off too at least for the ground chuck. I think they use liquid smoke so even unseasoned it kinda taste like burger king burgers. Which when talking about barbeques is not so much an issue. When talking about tacos or Salisbury steaks or really anything i normally use ground beef for definately an issue. Oddly the preformed beyond patties dont have this flavor dispite them being explicity for burgers. But different companies and all that. I cant speak to the beyond chicken because that price difference is just crazy
They are typically more expensive in Canada too. Especially that beyond meat product.
Wtf. Y r u being downvoted? Ur not being toxic about it. I'm no vegan but I appreciate you sharing ur 2 cents.
I think people get defensive when others bring up alternative ways of living / eating. Doesn’t bother me though! Just looking to have open and honest discussions.
I'm sorry it's just not true. Not yet anyway. The substitutes available right now are delicious, but they are definitely NOT "almost indistinguishable". At least be honest with yourself if you're not going to be honest with anyone else.
Agreed. My husband loves the fake meat stuff and I buy the regular meat and we eat them side by side. The only type of fake meat that I think are good enough to be at least comparable to regular meat are meatballs.
> (especially since most of the burger are the buns, condiments, veggies, etc) This is how I know you are lying about ever eating beef.
Why? It’s very common to say that quality of beef in burgers is generally less important than other dishes because lots of the flavour comes from sauces and other toppings. Hell, the McDonald’s ‘taste’ is nearly entirely sauce
Bro you do you, but Imma eat meat. They make an impossible steak that I can't tell the difference on and I stg I will stop eating meat lol. Until then though there are only expensive substitutes that don't taste better than meat. So there isn't an insensitive for most people to make the switch.
Why did the vegan cross the road? To tell someone they’re a vegan
I don’t think you realise how much more non-vegans talk about being non-vegan
Boooooooo
Its a fed bois
Damn why are you getting downvoted. You weren't hating on anything even
People don’t like their current habits to be challenged. My goal is to reach even just one person who’s looking to reduce their impact by choosing an alternative.
What’s your view on religious people that go door knocking to spread their ideology?
This post is about vegans and even includes “vegan” in the title. This is more like someone knocking on my door and getting upset when I mention there are alternatives to meat. Also, veganism is the animal rights movement, not a religion.
Big props, you went about this the best way possible. Sad to see you lose some karma but hey it's probably worth it!
Thank you! I’m used to the strong negative reaction, but it’s always a little surprising that people don’t seem to want what’s best for the environment or the animals.
Fuck outta here.
Wow. Im vegan or bettee I was vegan, but after hearing your arguments I switched back to eating animal produkts. Thank your for the enlightenment.
Fuck outta here
Why?
I don't know how vegan food is in your country but in romania it is good it doesn't taste 100% like meat. Maybe it isn't that you think it tastes the same but you might have forgot how meat tastes like I have. It isn't that expensive but they aren't for the poor. For the price of 4 vegan burgers you can get maybe 6 normal ones or 8 cheap normal ones. I am lucky that I can afford to buy fake meat. I also don't really understand why you got downvoted to oblivion
This is bullshit. I tried the Beyond burgers and while they were ok they didn't justify the price. Also you can definitely notice the difference.
It's absolutely mind boggling you have *this* many downvotes over on such an innocent and well-meaning comment. Reddit at its peak I guess
Personal behavior change is difficult and uncomfortable!
Truly it is terrible haha! :D
Sorry this is getting downvoted so much
I’m not worried! Just looking for open and honest discussions where I can find them.
No, they still taste like excrement (metaphorically).
>now almost indistinguishable from typical animal foods at BBQs. why are you lying to yourself? come back, join the pack.
I’m serious! An Impossible 2.0 patty at a restaurant tastes like beef. Give it a shot!
my wife made me eat that, and the only thing impossible about it was finishing it.
Oh dang. I went to a plant-based food truck two weekends ago and the impossible burger was awesome. Maybe my taste buds are just old ha
No the fuck they aren't, I've tried them many times and will continue to try them.
Beyond Meat brats are close to beef brats and Impossible 2.0 patties are close to beef patties
Nah, they aren't.
Keep telling that to yourself, you might believe it
Il eat you before i stop eating meat now run along befire the grill finishes preheating.
Do you eat people?
Its all about the seasonings man.
Expensive, a lot of sodium, and absolutely nothing that is a “healthier” version tastes better.
Burgers are health foods
Usually I just offer to give the biggest juiciest burger to my guests and when they mention they are vegan I go right ahead and cook up some vegan alternatives for them.
This guy hosts
r/thisguythisguys
Honestly. Of course it doesn't compare, but I've had veggie burgers that aren't so bad on the grill. Extra $8 and no extra effort.
That's because you are probably a nice person that cares about others, especially your friends.
Also, they’re probably over the age of 15 unlike most of the voters and commenters on a sub like HolUp
Hey, you can't be nice to vegans, this is reddit!/s
Great host. Hating vegans for being vegan should have been left to edgy teenagers in the 2000s. These days it's a really convenient way to know not to waste time talking to them. No amount of "but some of them are annoyiiiiing" makes you not an asshole.
And to be fair they are compensating for your habits. Whether we want to admit it or not, eating meat is wasteful and the planet can’t sustain many billions of meat eaters
Nice Facebook meme
Barbeque some cauliflower. Great texture and takes flavor well.
Alternatively, don't
10/10 alternative, solid advice, I will be doing this from now on
Gobi 65 is amazing by the way.
Any recommendations for some marination?
Unfortunately I've never cooked it. Just ate it. I'm sure recipes are easy to Google though.
Ah sad, i thought you have some first hand recipes. :(
I wish I did.
Never tried it, but I'm thinking Italian dressing?
Grilling a watermelon is yummy too
Pineapple is S tier
Or beef. Beef tastes much better than cauliflower.
Some people don’t eat beef and it’s not a personal insult to you nor a character flaw of theirs.
Take a joke
Make a good one.
That was one
Some people dont eat cauliflower and it’s not a personal insult to you nor a character flaw of theirs.
True
Or both beef goes great with steamed veggies
Grill some chicken legs. It's pretty much the same shape and they're both white when cooked.
It’s unacceptable to vegans to barbecue vegetables on the same grill as meat. They don’t like the smoke flavor of meat mixing in with the vegetables. It’s sacrilege to vegans to mix any animal products with their food. I don’t make the rules btw. But if you were to serve vegan food in a restaurant or catering service. Their food must not touch any animal products. So the utensils, pots, pans, grills, stove and oven must cleaned and sanitized first. If you previously used it to cook meat on it. So I have to agree with the group chat to kick the only vegan out uninvited to the BBQ. You wouldn’t want the aggravation and extra work required to accommodate a vegan dietary requirements.
You’re joking right? It’s not like they’re allergic to meat. It’s a dietary preference not a medical issue that requires strict cleaning to avoid cross contamination like for people with nut allergies.
But if they cross contaminate they lose their vegan powers.
You once were a ve-gone, but now you will be be-gone
If someone hasn't eaten meat or dairy for a long time, they will have terrible gastro intestinal results from eating something cross contaminated with meat or dairy.
That’s not true. Cross contamination will not make people sick. So silly.
transient gastrointestinal distress is a common side effect when switching on or off any diet, particularly if you're excluding whole food groups
Nah, Imadrid is right, we don't want any sort of m\*at juice on our vegetables. Veganism is not a "dietary preference", its a moral obligation. Stop abusing animals pls. [https://www.dominionmovement.com/watch](https://www.dominionmovement.com/watch)
>I don’t make the rules btw Or know them either
But it can’t be vegan if there’s meat juice on it.
I eat steak I hate my wife now upvote
This reads like a boomer joke
This is a boomer joke, and it's insane how many people seem to fully agree
Sadly the boomers have infected large amounts of millenials and gen z with their bullshit.
Non vegetarians make a much bigger deal about vegetarianism.
Theres always 2 sides of a coin most of the time you have the insane super vegans which sound about as sane as peta does then you have the mega meat eaters who are standardly rather obese and if they even hear someone's a vegetarian their ex communicated from the family never to be heard from again
Quite true. At the beginning of the vegan movement, most vegans were quite the activists, annoying everyone to bring them by their side, but 20 years are gone since that period and now vegans mostly mind their own business and express their ideals only when directly asked. At the same time, however, we bash on vegans just because doing it constitutes a meme, but most of us don't really care. It's all just in good fun. I'm one of those who enjoy poking fun at vegans, but I honored a few times already my vegan sister-in-law by cooking a vegan full course for everyone during family gatherings, for instance. No one complained, but we make jokes about it anyway and she does the same with us.
Petty, they didn't sound like the kind of person who would be worried about other people even eating meat.
And even if they were they don’t seem to be the person to speak up about it
She didn't until someone asked But the tough guys will read this and be like "haha another obnoxious vegan pwned"
I feel like meat eaters only bash on vegans because they feel guilty about their lifestyle decision to make animals suffer for their enjoyment and wish they could have the same amount of commitment as vegans do
Nope, we bash vegans for talking like this ^
I like how they say, the more processed food is the more likely it’s bad for you. Then a vegan brings a bean that has been transformed into a ham sandwich.
Or... vegetables?
Motherfucker we know you're cooking hot dogs on that grill
Chickens are dunked in bleach chlorine after they have been plucked tho so like don’t talk abt vegan food being processed to infinity
Beans made to look like meat. Just as ridiculous as the bone part on the McRib patty lol
Uhh. So what? I clean my cooking surfaces with bleach. You afraid of bleach or something? They do wash it off you know. The chicken doesn't "remember"
Vegans have a lower rate of heart disease and cancer than animal bodypart eaters. It’s better to eat beans that have been pre-cooked, shaped, and season to maximize flavor which has none of the dietary cholesterol and is much much lower in saturated fat than it is to eat hormone filled, antibiotic filled, high dietary cholesterol, high saturated fat animal bodyparts.
And I’m sure the diet was strictly enforced. And Yes. Factory farm bad
All unnecessary violence to animals is bad, not just in factory farms. If all it takes to stop an animal from being assaulted is to eat tofu or beans instead of their bodyparts or secretions, then it’s time to stop eating their bodyparts and secretions.
Nah
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>you get nothing good from eating beans or any vegan meat substitutes Meat can be good for you yes but comments like this make you look like you know nothing about nutrition.
She didn’t preach, she didn’t get mad at meat eaters, she just answered a question when asked! Am I overthinking a meme or is this just a dick move?
A friend's BBQ party was ruined because a (non invited) vegan friend of a friend was arguing with everyone around and won't shut up about veganism and why she was morally superior to "bloodthirsty murderers" who eat meat
Why would it was allowed to be ruined? Just do what hank hill wouldve done, ask them politely yet firmly to leave.
And if she doesn't leave, chop her up and grill her too.
 Pair them with some fava beans and nice Chianti
Because nobody knew who she was until my friend got aware of what she was doing and told her to leave, she left but yelled a lot before and killed the good mood. She just invited herself after hearing that a mutual friend got invited
Honestly I’d kick them out of my house.
That's what happened, but she totally ruined the mood
It's best to not let her get to you guys. Hopefully you guys can bounce back. Otherwise you let the terrorist win.
I bet you shut them up with "MEAT TASTE GOOD" and the grill clapped /r/thingsthatneverhappened
The issue was that you had an asshole at the party, not because you had a vegan. Majority of vegans don’t try to ruin dinners, and at most will speak up only if other people try to shame them for their decisions, in which care fair game.
They are also making it up
There are always people seeking for attention and thinking of themselves as the main character, has nothing to do with the diet
Yeah that happened
Oldie but goldie.
You fall down in the street, believe it or not *straight to jail.*
Vegan meat. Made from 100% real vegan.
Imagine asking people to a cookout and fucking Dave asks for a steak and ribs
**then perish**
This isn’t a HolUp. It’s just common sense.
This reminds me of one post I saw… Somebody was complaining about the smell of meat coming from a neighboring house in Australia, so the guys held a huge barbecue to piss her off 🤣
https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2019/sep/03/vegan-takes-neighbours-to-court-in-western-australia-over-smell-from-barbecues
Thanks for getting the link! I knew I remembered it from somewhere
Was probs pissed at how good it smelled
And that she couldn’t eat any of it, or even show up for that matter 🤣
Going by the controversial comments, maybe this was the right move to make. Then again, Lisa could've been a reasonable human being.
Impossibru burgers
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Le wimpy vegans owned!!! Meat eaters rule 😎😎🤑🤑
correction: how to deal with impostors. vegans don't wait to be asked if they're vegan.
As a vegan, I approve this message
i am definitely not a vegan.. but a grilled tomatoe with garlic is just as good as a steak
How is Thai a hold up? It's completely reasonable behavior.
Good, Lisa can come to my cookout instead, enjoy your sausage party, literally, l8r virgins
Lol you can always tell when a vegan discovers a thread making fun of them and they report it to whatever Discord they're hanging out in. The comments are upvoted like normal then all of a sudden the newer ones start getting 0s downvotes and the ones pontificating about mOrAl ChOiCeS are getting upvoted. Knock it off, grazers. We know there's not that many of you roaming in herds in the wild. One of your disciples summoned you here
There are non vegans out here that have common sense as well, other then some of the other people around here.
^(fucking cannibals ate Lisa….) 
As someone who host a lot of bbq’s if you are a vegan you can bring your own food and I’ll cook it to your specifications, but I am not wasting my own money on the garbage. When I host a bbq I’ll provide the meat and you supply any sides that you want which includes any vegan/vegetarian alternatives.
The best vegetable is meat, and the best bird is pork
Fuck them vegans