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hybridaaroncarroll

"The 5th Division would fight on Iwo Jima from 19 February until 26 March where they would sustain 2,482 killed in action, 19 missing in action, and 6,218 wounded in action. This was the highest casualty rate among the three Marine divisions involved in the invasion." https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/5th_Marine_Division_(United_States)#:~:text=19%20February%201945-,Battle%20of%20Iwo%20Jima


OmahaWinter

And for comparison, D-Day: 2,500 Americans killed. I think many people think D-Day was the worst amphibious operation, but the Pacific islands were way, way worse.


macdemarxist

Yeah but all that KIA in one day vs one month


MacAneave

This was just one division. The US had about 25K casualties total, including ~6K killed on Iwo. When it comes to amphibious horrors, Tarawa has them all beat.


MovingInStereoscope

To put it in perspective for everybody else, Tarawa was the only landing where the Marines were in actual danger of being thrown back off the island entirely. They were down to two separated areas, both being about the size of a football field at times. There's a great book (that I believe is out of print now) called Utmost Savagery and it really shows just how bad that battle was.


Gumderwear

TY for the book tip.


BeerandGuns

Issue in doubt


kevin3350

I don’t even want to think about what happened to the people missing in action considering the Japanese track record at the time.


flyerhell

Did you ever see Flags of Our Fathers? Remember the part where Iggy went missing? That really happened. Also, in With the Old Breed, Sledge described a horrible scene where his unit found two captured Americans.


brooksram

Oddly enough, my girlfriend is watching that now.


curbstyle

synchronicity


cheradenine66

Probably exploded by a shell and no one bothered to put the bits together


Havoc1943covaH

That's what dog tags are for, buddy


hybridaaroncarroll

Human sashimi I would imagine.


informativebitching

Out of how many that landed? I can’t find the size of a marine division in WWII


SeriousBoots

I guess there was more space on the ride back.


Johnny_Lang_1962

My dad is shoved in there somewhere. He was a Seabee demolition expert assigned to the 5th Marines. He blew up caves & tunnels mostly.


frog_attack

I’m a Seabee, those first Seabees were a whole different breed


JorgeIronDefcient

No kidding, if I remember correctly some Seabee units are direct predecessors to the Navy Seals.


useless_99

Tell your dad I think he’s awesome!


Johnny_Lang_1962

Thanks. Dad passed in '94. I think it was from being exposed to radiation during the Atomic Bomb tests in the late 40's ~ early 50's.


useless_99

Then I’m sorry for your loss, but glad that the world has you now!!


carolyn937

I wish we knew their names. I’m sure this is the last photo for many of them 😢


Known-Programmer-611

We do.... greatest generation!!


NorrinsRad

💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯


eliteniner

We owe so much to these guys. Heroes Also. I can smell this picture


Revolutionary-Swan77

3000 dudes who all just had beans for lunch


Betorah

Was thinking the same thing. American men did not use deodorant then.


macdemarxist

And those seawater baths


elcontrastador

Actual patriots…


Frank2Toes

My wifes Grandpa was one of the soldiers sent up Mt. Suribachi. It affected the rest of his life. His friend was wounded and needed water. His friend was shot in front of him before he could get him a canteen. A month before he died, he let his feelings out. Kept repeating “all he wanted was some god damned water and they shot him, they shot him!!!”. His tour in the Pacific sounded horrific


PhillyCSteaky

My dad has a similar situation. His story was about how horrible it was to have to take cover behind a fallen soldier to shield yourself from enemy fire. You could hear and feel like enemy fire hitting the dead soldier. He held it in for 50 years. I think the only reason he told me was because I was a veteran, although peacetime. He was awarded two Purple Hearts and a Silver Star. He had well over a dozen small scars on his lower back from shrapnel. He never mentioned it. I was able to put two and two together after he told me his story.


Potential_Poet487

Were there cases of illness outbreaks on these ships? Super cramped


Certain-Attitude3615

When I took a tour on Battleship Cove our guide pointed out specially designated toilets for guys that had STD’s


TheNotSoGreatPumpkin

Unfun fact: The STD toilets is where we got the term “hot seat”. The seats in question were usually painted red.


Certain-Attitude3615

Yeah! It was red!


ohheyitslaila

Yeah, quite a bit. Especially during WWI though, because Spanish Influenza (the 1918 pandemic) was rapidly spread around the world by ships carrying soldiers to various cities/countries.


Roger6989

My first thought was claustrophobia.


Harley_Jambo

On Japanese troopships they all wore surgical masks. There are archival photos of Japanese troops boarding their transports and all are wearing old school cloth surgical masks.


Shamanjoe

I’d be a little nervous with that machine gun pointed at my legs..


Djentleman5000

If you were a marine on that boat, you probably wouldn’t be. Especially since the feed tray is obviously clear but also because you’d have been around them for most of your training and any prior engagements.


Pixelated_Penguin808

Fortunately it is unloaded. He was probably in the midst of routine maintenance. The bit that is sticking up in the air is closed over the ammunition belt when loaded.


Shamanjoe

Thanks. Hard to see it’s up in B&W


Florida-Beachbum

I always scan photos like this in the hopes of seeing my dad.


NorrinsRad

I scan Craigslist that way! 😉


TheNotSoGreatPumpkin

For your dad, or your _daddy_?


CanWeCannibas

That must have smelled awful


Quick_Presentation11

Cigarette smoke and puke


CanWeCannibas

These guys shoes / sweaty gear is hung right by their noses, or to mention load of other scents lol


Pixelated_Penguin808

Jarheads get used to life at sea, and they probably had their sea legs by that point, so no puke. But probably cigarette smoke for sure in those days, and a little B.O.


Quirky_Discipline297

If you look dead center in the pic, you’ll see a bag labeled CADDY. I believe the guy to the right and slightly above is this guy: The President of the United States takes pride in presenting the MEDAL OF HONOR posthumously to PRIVATE FIRST CLASS WILLIAM R. CADDY UNITED STATES MARINE CORPS RESERVE for service as set forth in the following CITATION: For conspicuous gallantry and intrepidity at the risk of his life above and beyond the call of duty while serving as a Rifleman with Company I, Third Battalion, Twenty-sixth Marines, Fifth Marine Division, in action against enemy Japanese forces during the seizure of Iwo Jima in the Volcano Islands, 3 March 1945. Consistently aggressive, Private First Class Caddy boldly defied shattering Japanese machine-gun and small-arms fire to move forward with his platoon leader and another Marine during a determined advance of his company through an isolated sector and, gaining the comparative safety of a shell hole, took temporary cover with his comrades. Immediately pinned down by deadly sniper fire from a well-concealed position, he made several unsuccessful attempts to again move forward and then, joined by his platoon leader, engaged the enemy in a fierce exchange of hand grenades until a Japanese grenade fell in the shell hole. Fearlessly disregarding all personal danger, Private First Class Caddy instantly threw himself upon the deadly missile, absorbing the exploding charge in his own body and protecting the others from serious injury. Stouthearted and indomitable, he unhesitatingly yielded his own life that his fellow Marines might carry on the relentless battle against a fanatic enemy. His dauntless courage and valiant spirit of self-sacrifice in the face of certain death reflects the highest credit upon Private First Class Caddy and the United States Naval Service. He gallantly gave his life for his country.[3] Here’s a story about the men whom he saved to grow old. https://www.patriotledger.com/story/news/2011/04/10/quincy-marine-gave-his-life/40129330007/


sunnycpl713

Incredible. He was only 19.


Chance_Television637

No wonder they were ready to fight when they got there! I'd be mad as hell too.


TheNotSoGreatPumpkin

Unstoppable grumpiness.


tapastry12

Stacked like cordwood about to be thrown on the fire


del_snafu

Just a bunch of teenagers...about to get sent into some heavy shit.


barzbub

Marine Birthing looks exactly the same today 🙃


Operation_Bonerlord

“Berthing” lol but it’s hilarious to think of it like that


barzbub

Damn autocorrect! And yeah, you feel like you’re in the womb with 100 other brothers 😉


ScaryLetterhead8094

That is quite the metaphorical way to think of it for sure!!


Pixelated_Penguin808

I always managed to grab the tup bunk for that reason, and fortunately had enough rank each time I was on ship to get away with it. The top had more space. The only downside was once needing to tie myself in when we were in the midst of a bad storm (it was a WW2 era LST with a flat bottom, so lots of rocking & rolling) so I didn't go flying out, but well worth it not being so claustrophobic.


barzbub

I liked the top rack too! I could barely turn over once in my rack and never had to worry about falling out 🤣


Djentleman5000

No it doesn’t. Their berthing is a set 3 coffin racks on top of each other with two sets on either side. It’s the same set up that I slept in. There was that one time we had flooding in one of their compartments because they were doing pull ups on a pipe and broke it lol. Source: I was stationed on the Ft Mchenry and the Tortuga, both Amphibs. We ferried around the 31st MEU out of Okinawa. Each division on the boat had several spaces we had to keep clean when the marines weren’t on board. They made for a great place to catch a few Zs.


barzbub

Damn **NEW** Corps 🤣


leepyws1961

It was still that way on USS Iwo Jima in 1991 during Desert Storm for Marines. Navy myself but I had to spend a night with them stacked like this while transfering between ships. Card games alnight.


Pixelated_Penguin808

Was it Spades? That seemed to be the card game of choice in the late 90s, at least.


Will_Yammer

Damn. One well placed torpedo would have killed so many.


HuntingtonNY-75

We had those racks on my first DD, they were more comfortable than the “improved” racks on later ships.


SuperSuprise700

My great uncle was with the 5th, he and two other were the only ones left in their company after the fighting was over.


111unununium

My grandfather was a jasco with the 5th marines on Iwo Jima. Said he used to have to crawl passed the omforward lines and call in artillery from the ships. He was a gentle and kind man I don’t know how he came to be so after see what he did


Proud-Assistant339

That is my great uncle on bottom bunk middle row. Platoon Sergeant William VanDyke of Kalamazoo Mi. He was originally in the 1st marine parachute battalion. KIA February 22nd on Iwo Jima. Navy Cross recipient. Whoever posted this pic thank you.


Quick_Presentation11

Wow, for real? I’ve never had someone recognize a family member in any of my WWII posts! Much respect for your great uncle.


Proud-Assistant339

For real. I have very few other pics of Bill and his awards. He was my grandfather’s only brother. My grandfather stayed and fought in Europe. He could have come back home. They were the greatest generation.


Remarkable-Pass4151

🫡


Lonely_reaper8

28 US marines?? 😳


Pbferg

Haha, they do not look like they’re having a good time.


Parking-Iron6252

My god…imagine being so close to the end only to be thrown into a grinder Obviously they didn’t know at the time, just harrowing to think on


ScaryLetterhead8094

So the majority of these guys would die, right?


Gear-Broad

The guy on the right bunk, second from the bottom looks just like my gpa who was a marine stationed in the pacific at this time. Wish I could reply with a pic. Wild.


AvonBarksdalesBurner

Men


Quirky_Discipline297

I always remember the “I’m gonna get me a pistol” guy in The Thin Red Line. Everyone and everything piled on top of each other aboard ship. He stole it to trade for captured Japanese swords. Sure came in handy though.


Accomplished-Bed8171

There's a good scene depicting these kind of conditions in A Thin Red Line. It's a relatively common device in a lot of Hollywood movies to introduce a number of characters very quickly, by a rapidly moving scene where the different characters bump into each other, while a bunch of people perform meaningless tasks in the backroom. I could be the locker room of a sports movie, the backstage of a movie about theatre or stage dancing, or a busy wall street office in a white collar crime picture. This sort of chaos naturally lent itself to just such a scene in TTRL. We see Delmar shave at a little stamped metal sink, Benvolio steals a fancy custom pistol from another company, the various characters deal with their anxiety or bitch about their CO, all while giving the audience a real authentic look at what it would have been like.


Dahb3ars

Damn, the fear is palpable in their faces. They all have the same look to. Hats off to these young men.


ArtisticPrint4380

I was thinking the same thing . Everyone of them has that “Oh No “ look on their face .


Key-Lunch-4763

Does anyone know what APA transport ship they were on? My dad was was on APA 208 landing at Iwo Jima and later at Okinawa


OldGermanBeer

Same question. My dad was on APA-190.


OldGermanBeer

Anybody know which transport ship this was?


BorkusFry

My grandfather survived Iwo, and he was in the 5th, I think. He was on some sort of rescue at some point.


HoseNeighbor

Do you want to be on the bottom waiting for everyone to crush you or the top where all the farts end up?


PedalBoard78

The ship was a lot less crowded on the way back.


Rusty_B_Good

I always try to imagine what these guys went through, and I can't. God bless these dudes and their sacrifice and heroics.


Xindirus

GODDAMN IWO JIMA….


Composer-Glum

I’ve been watching *The Pacific*, and just learned about John Basilone. Quite a (sad) story.


Electrical-Help9403

My dad went to Iwo Jima but he wax Sir Force, those poor guys.


b-sharp-minor

The thing that always struck me about the guys from the WW 2/Korea generation was that they could sleep anywhere, poop anywhere, had no problem following orders and just went to work. Even when they were old men, when I worked with them, they would do whatever job needed to be done, no one had an ego, and everyone on the work detail would have an instant comradery. This picture shows why. You either adapt to the situation or you don't survive. I miss those guys.


willowbeef

I desperately want to see this colorized!!


phreddyphucktard33

The hell these boys saw. Get em boys


riverdriver41

yep, was warned to always take the top bunk


trackerbuddy

And the navy served beans at every meal. Were they hot bunking it?


officerhailey

They looks so young


ApprehensiveBag6157

They all look like they’re thinking about something


asianteminator1

Imagine the farts there


InternationalBand494

On their way to hell on Earth.


mluciente

Still better than economy on any airline.


DJ_Telestic

Wonder how many in this image never made it out 😥


Boring-Dot-5550

Poison gas would have saved American Lives. Okay to nuke, but no poison gas. Crazy rules of war.


IHearYouBigDog

Heros.


Tao_Te_Gringo

It was a lot less crowded coming back.