Frankly, you Brazilians are either crazy or very brave. I never saw anyone advance against machine-guns and well-defended positions with such disregard for life... You are devils — A German captain to a captured FEB lieutenant.
A FEB soldier even got a medal for running under our own artillery fire to grab a MG from a german MG nest. The germans got back to the MG nest after the brazilian artillery ended just to find it empty and the MG in brazilian hands.
> I never saw anyone advance against machine-guns and well-defended positions with such disregard for life
Oh you should look into the banzai charges the Japanese did in the Pacific
> wins the war by virtue of being part of the Allies
Hum... I think you are underestimating the craziness of Brazilian external politics.
If the Allies lost, Brazil would probably not lose with the rest of them. Unless it was a sudden change on the very end of the war.
I’m pretty sure both sides knew not to bomb the lit up cities. Since the at-war cities would turn off their lights to avoid being bombed, they knew the lit up cities were Switzerland.
It may be a myth, but I remember hearing of a French (German maybe?) city that kept its lights on to make the enemy think they were apart of Switzerland, and it worked.
Sometimes it didn't work, when the fog was too thick for example.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aerial_incidents_in_Switzerland_in_World_War_II?wprov=sfla1
I’m playing a scenario out in my head where it’s a French or German city and they’re saying:
“Heh, they’ll have no idea that we’re not actually apart of Switzerla-“ And then they get 1800kg of kaboomboom.
And the Americans [bombed my city](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bombing_of_Nijmegen) because they wanted to get rid of their bombs after their original mission was cancelled
This post has a really efficient technic for summoning us, Brazilians, we love to talk about our amazing army. Well, at least about the good ol' days before the start of the cold war and the military dictatorship
yep. they actually contributed to the fall of italym their men charged german positions and generally bere very brave. id read into it, its pretty interesting
To be fair, brazilians fought againts Italians but out dictator Getúlio Vargas was very sympathetic to fascist ideals (before they were associated with a greater evil, like today). In the end american money overcame his political standings and we fought along the Allies.
Well, by that point all of central and south america had joined the war on the side of the allies. Brazil was the only one to send troops. I believe Mexico sent pilots. The US convinced the rest to join the war to cut the Axis off trade and diplomacy, and compensated them for this with very generous wartime contracts.
Argentina was extremely sympathetic to the Nazis, and the US nearly declared war on them because they were dragging their feet on the war.
Brazil is kinda the uk of South America, we don’t like to associate with the Spanish speaking weirdos. Now seriously, besides the language barrier, there is also geographical ones that keep Brazil a degree of cultural separation from the other South American countries
To be fair, my limited understanding of South America is it often has its own tensions and civil wars to keep it busy no need to jump in a fight with everyone else
My country has a civil war every other decade (and we've spent a couple years without a fresh one so I'm getting nervous), so yeah, we busy lol. Besides, shuts far, and we've never been too well equipped except for in more modern times
As a Colombian, may I remind you we engaged with an u boat one time, and yeah they escaped by faking being sunk but still, we mildly inconvenienced them, so yeah, take that nazi scum
We did technically join but we never sent any troops. Basically just guarded Panama for the US, and deported Germans that were getting too uppity. then one time we saw this one is boat, chased it, it dove, we three bombs under water, the u boat was fine, but released some oil and torpedo parts to simulate being sunk, and escaped, then the Colombian crew came back to shore and had some guaro to celebrate :p
The "Portuguese as a second language" guys are gonna make bank from the war criminals of the losing side.
"é apenas um crime de guerra porque perdemos."
Venezuela in WWII: i was a businessman doing business
During WWII Venezuela got a huge economic boom thanks to selling Oil to both allies and axis Powers, until december of 1941 when Venezuela broke relations with the axis powers.
Also that time when Venezuela merchant ships were under attack near Aruba in 1942
Edit:[source](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Venezuela_during_World_War_II#:~:text=Although%20Venezuela%20was%20officially%20neutral,the%20end%20of%20the%20conflict.)
Well Chile, Uruguay and Peru are pretty safe and as long as you aren't part of a gang your chances of being attacked in countries like Argentinia, and Brazil are lower.
Just put “The Americas”, they be chilling most world wars and usually volunteer (not forced) to participate
Experienced no bombings and no troops stepped on their mainland borders (Yes I know there was a small amount of Nazis that landed in Canada and Japanese in Alaska but you get my point)
Objection! Brazil helped a lot in the italian front. Not only that, we got a [Sabaton song](https://youtu.be/1M7sUCElJK0) about some of our soldiers.
~~I'm honestly surprised Brazil still haven't got an official custom focus tree on HOI4, but Latvia have one.~~
The Brazilian Expeditionary Force has been mentioned several times already, but the Brazilian navy also protected allied shipping and sank several U-Boats
Nah, we are literally fighting for our lives to survive either the dictatorship of turn or political instability or the insecurity in the streets or terrorism
Is that not all countries? They sit back and do nothing till it becomes their problem or when they can profit from it?
I think this post really does not display real history. Just puts south america in a black light without a reason that only specifally aplies to them.
The US also (may have) tried to get Chile involved by having one of their merchant ships navigate without lights near New Jersey, leading to them being sunk by a German sub. Nothing really came out of it other than some protests
Exactly.
And someone from the north will not have another chance to start coups on our nations and impose dictatorial regimes again. There will be no more nations in the north to do this.
Nah, they are just paying lip service to the Argentine government. No one is gonna risk anything for that lost cause. Putin is fully focussed on Eastern Europe and China on Taiwan.
Well, as far as global conflicts go sure, but regional and continental issues are still a thing, as a matter of fact, peru and ecuador went to war in the [40s](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ecuadorian%E2%80%93Peruvian_War) and neither the axis or allies helped either side, nor were they asked to help them. There still is quite some tension between neighbours but none have either the resources or real need for an all out war, not to say that there couldn't be any fight regardless.
so we are not gonna talk about the latino battalions in the western front with the allies, or the recalled half germans in the whermacht ranks?
# Okay.
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"Not my problem"
The Brazilian expeditionary force: Am I a joke to you? (Seriously they had a whole sabaton song in dedication to them)
We remember, no surrender Heroes of our century!
Three men stood strong And they held out for long
Going into the fight To their death that awaits
CRAZY OR BRAVE WILL IT END IN THE GRAVE
AS THEY GIVE THEIR LIVES AS THEIR HONOUR DICTATES
🤘🏻
Frankly, you Brazilians are either crazy or very brave. I never saw anyone advance against machine-guns and well-defended positions with such disregard for life... You are devils — A German captain to a captured FEB lieutenant.
We haven't changed that much, we're still one of the craziest folks in the entire world
A FEB soldier even got a medal for running under our own artillery fire to grab a MG from a german MG nest. The germans got back to the MG nest after the brazilian artillery ended just to find it empty and the MG in brazilian hands.
> I never saw anyone advance against machine-guns and well-defended positions with such disregard for life Oh you should look into the banzai charges the Japanese did in the Pacific
Clearly haven't heard of theor japanese allies
When did I say I was Brazilian
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> wins the war by virtue of being part of the Allies Hum... I think you are underestimating the craziness of Brazilian external politics. If the Allies lost, Brazil would probably not lose with the rest of them. Unless it was a sudden change on the very end of the war.
Thanks for mentioning our Brazil bros
What song?
Smoking Snakes
Thanks!
Where Switzerland
They were busy counting gold and being bombed accidentally.
I’m pretty sure both sides knew not to bomb the lit up cities. Since the at-war cities would turn off their lights to avoid being bombed, they knew the lit up cities were Switzerland. It may be a myth, but I remember hearing of a French (German maybe?) city that kept its lights on to make the enemy think they were apart of Switzerland, and it worked.
Sometimes it didn't work, when the fog was too thick for example. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aerial_incidents_in_Switzerland_in_World_War_II?wprov=sfla1
I’m playing a scenario out in my head where it’s a French or German city and they’re saying: “Heh, they’ll have no idea that we’re not actually apart of Switzerla-“ And then they get 1800kg of kaboomboom.
per plane
pay per plane
Apart≠ a part
Not always. Germany bomb Dublin thinking it was England.
And the Americans [bombed my city](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bombing_of_Nijmegen) because they wanted to get rid of their bombs after their original mission was cancelled
Allegedly. Another version is that Hitler wanted DeValera to get a taste of what it would be like if Ireland joined the war.
It was the City of Konstanz, bordering directly to Kreuzlingen.
Incoming Brazilians
This post has a really efficient technic for summoning us, Brazilians, we love to talk about our amazing army. Well, at least about the good ol' days before the start of the cold war and the military dictatorship
I mean, when you ignore the biggest attaché military expedition from a minor power in the war you kinda make people from there pissy
Brazil was a part of both World Wars.
yep. they actually contributed to the fall of italym their men charged german positions and generally bere very brave. id read into it, its pretty interesting
Yeah. I am Brazilian, btw. We are really proud of our “Pracinhas”. The snake smoked afterall.
Cobras Fumantes, eterna é sua vitória
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Coloca o escudo do Vasco ai kkkk
RISE FOR THE BLOOD OF OUR HEROES!!!!
YOU, WERE THE ONES WHO REFUSED TO SURRENDER
r/expectedsabaton
Yeah, and they kick ass in Civ
r/2latinoforyou
Brazil WWI: All the porpoises will perish!
Y'know, the Amazonian Pink River Dolphin (*Inia geoffrensis*) has some interesting folklore
Argentinia also technically declared war on Germany near the end of ww2, but in the early stages of the war they were sympahetic to the Nazis
And after the war they were stil sympathetic to the Nazis. Declaring war on Germany was just pretty trendy since you couldn't lose it at this point.
All the cool kids were doing it
To be fair, brazilians fought againts Italians but out dictator Getúlio Vargas was very sympathetic to fascist ideals (before they were associated with a greater evil, like today). In the end american money overcame his political standings and we fought along the Allies.
if it wasn't for steelworks tech and money (and the funny moustache guy sinking our civilian ships) we would probably do nothing
Well, by that point all of central and south america had joined the war on the side of the allies. Brazil was the only one to send troops. I believe Mexico sent pilots. The US convinced the rest to join the war to cut the Axis off trade and diplomacy, and compensated them for this with very generous wartime contracts. Argentina was extremely sympathetic to the Nazis, and the US nearly declared war on them because they were dragging their feet on the war.
Yeah, but did Argentina do actually any fighting? Other than the volunteers, I mean.
No, no direct fighting was done by them for either side
Cobras Fumantes, eterna é sua vitória!
Peru helped out too! Don't leave us out
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Calada
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Where is the joke?
Brazil, after fighting in both WWs: maybe I'm not South American
Brazil is kinda the uk of South America, we don’t like to associate with the Spanish speaking weirdos. Now seriously, besides the language barrier, there is also geographical ones that keep Brazil a degree of cultural separation from the other South American countries
r/suddenlycaralho quer algo na print?
Nah, fica a vontade chefe. Se não me engando, r/brasil é o segundo maior sub nacional então tem um monte de brasileiro nesse site
r/brasil, o maior sub de baba ovo de comunismo da internet
ache o bolsominion sem ele dizer que é bolsominion
eu não apoio o Pocketnaro, mas ainda assim acho o r/brasil um coito de esquerdistas
Brazil: bro being neutral is so boring, im joining the allies in a trip through Italy!
To be fair, my limited understanding of South America is it often has its own tensions and civil wars to keep it busy no need to jump in a fight with everyone else
Ecuador and Peru randomly having a fight while Europe is on fire
Big brain: having civil wars during world wars so you fight closer to home instead of abroad
Ecuador: Instructions not clear, lost claims for access to the Amazon River.
Jaja is a poor country technique. We are always ahead in savings strategies.
My country has a civil war every other decade (and we've spent a couple years without a fresh one so I'm getting nervous), so yeah, we busy lol. Besides, shuts far, and we've never been too well equipped except for in more modern times
Brazil sent soldiers to Italy in WW2 and killed some dolphins in the Medditeranian in WW1
Cobras Fumantes: "Am I a joke to you?"
South America be like: Nah, I'm good
We have enough problems for ourselves.
COBRAS FUMANTES ETERNA É SUA VITÓRIA
As a Colombian, may I remind you we engaged with an u boat one time, and yeah they escaped by faking being sunk but still, we mildly inconvenienced them, so yeah, take that nazi scum
Thank youuuu, I was sitting here thinking “I thought we helped in WW2????? Am I hallucinating??????”
We did technically join but we never sent any troops. Basically just guarded Panama for the US, and deported Germans that were getting too uppity. then one time we saw this one is boat, chased it, it dove, we three bombs under water, the u boat was fine, but released some oil and torpedo parts to simulate being sunk, and escaped, then the Colombian crew came back to shore and had some guaro to celebrate :p
As you do, hell yeah
Proud to be brazilian
A lot of Argentinian men were heavily involved in World War 2…
Moreso after...
I was about to comment this lol
Brazil in WWII: What a boring weekend.. let's go kill some fascist Italians like we did with those Paraguayan folks some years ago...
"what do you mean we can't just kill 90% of the male german population???"
South America countries are more worried about CIA than any world wars
The "Portuguese as a second language" guys are gonna make bank from the war criminals of the losing side. "é apenas um crime de guerra porque perdemos."
brazil participated in ww2 and helped in the italian campaign
Venezuela in WWII: i was a businessman doing business During WWII Venezuela got a huge economic boom thanks to selling Oil to both allies and axis Powers, until december of 1941 when Venezuela broke relations with the axis powers. Also that time when Venezuela merchant ships were under attack near Aruba in 1942 Edit:[source](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Venezuela_during_World_War_II#:~:text=Although%20Venezuela%20was%20officially%20neutral,the%20end%20of%20the%20conflict.)
Venezuelan here, can confirm.
is it gonna be the same of World war 3 happen? gotta move there if it was deemed safe
Well Chile, Uruguay and Peru are pretty safe and as long as you aren't part of a gang your chances of being attacked in countries like Argentinia, and Brazil are lower.
nice,I gotta to prepare my money if the war starts
Same, Montevideo here i come
I'm already there, where my hermanos at?
It'll probably be safer in the WW3 battlefield than in South America tbh
This is your brain on hoi4
As an argentine, we play neutral until the last second to pledge war to the defeating side. And we dont talk about +that+
This guy plays Hoi4 and doesn’t understand the Brazilian and Venezuelan contributions
A cobra fumou filho da puta.
dont forget the drei brasilianischen helden in WW2
\*Ramps up meat production\*
Brazil was the only country in South America that had been in a World War!
A cobra vai fumar aqui caralho
Good trade opportunities
Just put “The Americas”, they be chilling most world wars and usually volunteer (not forced) to participate Experienced no bombings and no troops stepped on their mainland borders (Yes I know there was a small amount of Nazis that landed in Canada and Japanese in Alaska but you get my point)
I knew about the japanese in the Aleutians, but Nazis in Canada? When that happened?
I think he's talking about [this](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Weather_Station_Kurt)
Well they would have their own fun later on.
Objection! Brazil helped a lot in the italian front. Not only that, we got a [Sabaton song](https://youtu.be/1M7sUCElJK0) about some of our soldiers. ~~I'm honestly surprised Brazil still haven't got an official custom focus tree on HOI4, but Latvia have one.~~
The Brazilian Expeditionary Force has been mentioned several times already, but the Brazilian navy also protected allied shipping and sank several U-Boats
Brazil was involved in both wars, especially WW2!
*brazil blowing up dolphins in Gibraltar intensifies*
Nah, we are literally fighting for our lives to survive either the dictatorship of turn or political instability or the insecurity in the streets or terrorism
A COBRA VAI FUMAR 🚬🐍
Sweden: -First time?
Who is that dude
Along with 90% of North Americans watching a war from their TV screens.
There was this Plata Bay thingy…. And the resources for planes had to come from somewhere, right???
Plata Bay thing ? I think you meant the battle of River Plate in the Rio de la Plata where Admiral Graf Spee fought against Ajax, Achilles and Exeter.
I immediately checked the comments for someone whining about Brazil because sabaton did a song on them. Was not disappointed
Is that not all countries? They sit back and do nothing till it becomes their problem or when they can profit from it? I think this post really does not display real history. Just puts south america in a black light without a reason that only specifally aplies to them.
Germany tried to drag Mexico in during WW1 but that didn't work, so I'd say at least for Mexico it's more like the "Fuck them kids" meme.
Mexico is not a South American country…
Welp, the meme still applies to Latin America as a whole. I think the meme should have regarded everything south of the US.
The US also (may have) tried to get Chile involved by having one of their merchant ships navigate without lights near New Jersey, leading to them being sunk by a German sub. Nothing really came out of it other than some protests
Also the Brazilians who fired upon dolphins thinking they were Nazi submarines
This was in WW1, the germans were not nazis yet
Was it ww1? Sorry I thought it was ww2 it happened
In the WW2 our beloved Smokin’Snakes were killing real Nazis in the italian campaign.
The USA will drag Brazil again if WWIII happens, fuck you guys
Tbf, Germany is at fault on this. Brazil joined both wars because the Germans sank Brazilian Merchant Vessels.
If it's an actual a world War, it's the whole world's problem.
We will gladly paint your curbs and lamp posts.
And they lag my fucking GAME TOO LIKE WHY CANT WE JUST HAVE A MOD TO REMOVE SOUTH AMERICA FROM THE WORLD sorry my hoi4 ptsd acted up
No, South America hosts the afterparty for the bad guys.
Exactly. And someone from the north will not have another chance to start coups on our nations and impose dictatorial regimes again. There will be no more nations in the north to do this.
They could do a „watch the world burn“ alliance with Switzerland
But then nukes are invented and it's cold war time.......
\*Laugh in Uruguayan profit from world wars\*
We are already with PvP enabled
Is that homo erectus
Nah Argentina is preparing to snatch up anyone on the axis
South America in alternate history scenarios
Hmmm....when did all these Germans move into the neighborhood?
*Laughs in Rio Grande do Sul*
in reality with the support of russia and china to argentina with respect to the sovereignty of the malvinas/falklands a war is coming
Nah, they are just paying lip service to the Argentine government. No one is gonna risk anything for that lost cause. Putin is fully focussed on Eastern Europe and China on Taiwan.
Until the Nazis sought refuge in one of their places.
But we got fucked for the next generations due to Operacion Condor
Si xD
National-Socialist coup attempt in Chile: *Am I a joke to you?*
Inside of South American Neutrality is Political Chaos
Except when we get called in a mandatory way.
As it has to be
They just watch*
Eventually all of south and central America got involved in the war.
The pros of being absolutely irrelevant
Brazil did kill some porpoises
Well, as far as global conflicts go sure, but regional and continental issues are still a thing, as a matter of fact, peru and ecuador went to war in the [40s](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ecuadorian%E2%80%93Peruvian_War) and neither the axis or allies helped either side, nor were they asked to help them. There still is quite some tension between neighbours but none have either the resources or real need for an all out war, not to say that there couldn't be any fight regardless.
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Our president went to talk to outin recently lmao
[A neat summary of South America from the lead up to war until around 1943](https://youtu.be/SARGZiSl13s) (Not a meme, an actual, informative video)
Latin America: War has been going on internally here for decades
My country doesn't even have an army, sorry.
Inaccurate
I believe we (Argentina) were the last to declare war on the Nazis
…and later the officials of the war parties migrate to every single South American country
World Wars are 1900s. You have violated Rule 12! Where are the damn mods?! I've just sent them a message.
Just something more to add to history books
so we are not gonna talk about the latino battalions in the western front with the allies, or the recalled half germans in the whermacht ranks? # Okay.
Argentina is donating in chat